>> Cathy: COMING UP HERE ON THE PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO TALK JOBS AND ECONOMY WITH OUR NEW D.E.E.D.

COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE A PANEL OF ECONOMIC EXPERTS, WE'LL MEET A UKRAINIAN FAMILY LIVING IN UNCERTAINTY HERE IN MINNESOTA.

>> Eric: WE START WITH NEWS OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS THIS WEEK WHERE MAYOR JACOB FREY RELEASED A $1.8 BILLION BUDGET PROPOSAL.

IN THE BUDGET FUNDING FOR POLICE REFORM, CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOUSING, PLUS A TAX LEVY INCREASE.

HERE TO TALK MORE, DAVE ORRICK WITH THE STAR TRIBUNE, HE KEEPS A CLOSE EYE ON THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND CITY HALL.

I SUPPOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT DIRECTIVES MAY BE THE DOMINANT FEATURE HERE.

WHEN THE AYOR SAYS CHANGE ISN'T CHEAP PUT SOME CONTEXT TO THAT.

>> YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REALLY SEEN DOLLAR FIGURES ATTACHED TO THE SETTLEMENT WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE UPCOMING CONSENT DECREE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, WHICH IS ABOUT MAINLY POLICING IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND STUFF.

AND I'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT $16 MILLION IN 2024 AND ANOTHER 11 MILLION IN 2025.

AND PROBABLY AROUND 11 MILLION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO COME EACH YEAR.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, OUT OF A $1.8 BILLION BUDGET IT'S NOT EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S REAL MONEY.

>> Cathy: WHO'S PAYING FOR THAT?

>> THE TAXPAYERS OF MINNEAPOLIS, PROPERTY OWNERS OF MINNEAPOLIS BY AND LARGE.

THERE'S NEW MONEY FROM THE STATE THAT'S COMING IN TO HELP BOOST UP THE FUNDS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AID HAS A BOOST.

THERE'S ALSO REVENUES FROM INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY FROM THE OCAL TAXES COMING INTO MINNEAPOLIS AND THE POST-PANDEMIC WORLD, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TAYLOR SWIFT, WE HAD BEYONCE, THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY IN DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS THIS YEAR.

>> Eric: HOMEOWNER AND PROPERTY TAX IMPLICATIONS?

>> YEAH, MY CHEAT SHEET HERE, THE MEDIAN FAMILY HOME AND MEDIAN HOME VALUE IN IN MINNEAPOLIS IS 331,000 WHICH IS SAYS SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.

THIS WOULD BE ABOUT 150 TO $160 MORE A YEAR.

>> Eric: YOU ADD ON THE COUNTY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> OH, YEAH, THOSE ARE OF COURSE SEPARATE FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS BUDGET.

YEAH, THE TOTAL TAX BURDEN FROM THE CITY WOULD BE CLOSE TO $2,000 WITH THIS AGAIN NOT INCLUDING OTHER TAXING JURISDICTIONS.

>> Cathy: SO PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET GOES TO VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS AND OTHER NON-PROFITS THAT KIND OF WORK IN THAT AREA.

DO E KNOW, IS IT CLEAR HETHER THESE -- DOES THAT EFFORT WORK?

>> YEAH, IT DEFINITELY WORKS SOMETIMES.

A LOT OF THE MONEY OR A PORTION OF THE MONEY FOR POLICE REFORM IS GOING TO GO TOWARD TRACKING THAT, THOUGH.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TO HIRE.

THERE'S MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE HIRED JUST AS PART OF THIS REFORM THING.

THAT'S NOT NEW OFFICERS ON THE STREET AND IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS, IT'S PEOPLE TO TRAIN THEM, IT'S PEOPLE TO TRACK THE DATA AND WRITE THE SOFTWARE TO TRACK THE DATA.

AND ALL THIS OTHER LEVEL OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIND OUT HOW WELL THAT WORKS.

WHERE ARE THEY BEING SENT, OR THEY BEING EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY'RE BEING SENT TO THESE PLACES, ARE THEY EVEN BEING SENT OR ARE THEY ON THEIR OWN, IS 911 PROPERLY COORDINATING WITH THEM.

>> Cathy: SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET HERE, THERE'S A BIG PIECE THAT DEALS WITH PUBLIC HOUSING.

THAT'S A PRETTY BIG INCREASE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THIS IS A LEVY THAT'S BASICALLY SITTING AT ZERO FOR AABOUT OF YEARS.

MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS THE ABILITY TO LEVY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY, OF THE MAYOR.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY, THEY CUT A DEAL, PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY WANTED MORE MONEY BUT IN THE END THE DEAL THEY CUT IS GOING TO GIVE THEM I BELIEVE IT'S 10 MILLION A YEAR AND THAT IS TO START TO ADDRESS A PRETTY BIG BACKLOG OF A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION IN MAINTENANCE IN OLDER BUILDINGS, PRIMARILY WITH ALL THE HIGHRISES THAT PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS.

>> Eric: DOES THE MAYOR PROPOSE ANY SPENDING CUTS?

>> NOT THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND.

THERE'S SHIFTING OF MONEY AND STUFF SO YOU CAN GO IN AND FIND A LINE THAT MAY GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, IT TURNS OUT IT'S BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE HAS BEEN SHIFTED OVER.

AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN SO FAR THERE'S NO MAJOR CUTS.

>> Cathy: CAN WE ASK YOU SOME OTHER QUESTIONS?

BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE BOWL OF WAX HERE WHEN IT COMES TO MINNEAPOLIS POLITICS.

THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD RAISE PAY FOR RIDESHARE DRIVERS, MAYOR FREY SENT A LETTER TO COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING COULD YOU UPUMP THE BRAKES ON THIS, WE SHOULD KIND OF KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.

BUT THE COUNCIL WENT OFF AND STILL PASSED IT.

WHAT MIGHT BE DONE WITH THAT?

>> THEY DID.

WELL, A VETO IS WHAT MIGHT BE DONE WITH IT.

WE WON'T KNOW.

THE MAYOR HAS UNTIL WEDNESDAY TO ACT.

HE'S NOT ACTED YET, AND I WOULD EXPECT SOMETHING MONDAY OR TUESDAY.

WE WILL SEE.

BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY A DECENT CHANCE HE COULD VETO THIS.

HE EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF SERIOUS CONCERNS, A LOT OF THEM ARE IN PARALLEL TO THE CONCERNS THAT TIM WALZ HAD WHEN HE VETOED SOMETHING SIMILAR PASSED BY THE DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE.

WALZ SET UP A TASK FORCE TO STUDY THE ISSUE.

NOW, THE CAPITOL SOMETIMES WE SAY TASK FORCES ARE WHERE THINGS GO TO DIE, THAT WOULD BE ONE VIEW.

FREY'S TAKE IS, LOOK, THIS TASK FORCE HAS SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM STAKEHOLDERS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS IN THIS.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH DATA, REAL HARD INFORMATION, COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE CITY SHOULD DO.

>> Eric: EW PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSIONER ON AN INTERIM BASIS.

>> ON AN INTERIM BASIS PROBABLY LONG TIME ALMANAC GUEST.

LEE SKEEHE YES.

ONE OF HIS FIRST JOBS, HE WAS WITH THE U.S. WATERGATE COMMITTEE.

I PULLED THE FINAL WATERGATE REPORT TODAY AND THERE WAS HIS NAME THERE AMONG THE STAFFERS, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT.

>> Cathy: WELL, WHAT'S THE DEAL?

>> HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN IN A DIFFERENT INTERIM ROLE IN THE CITY FOR A FEW MONTHS AT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

LEE IS ONE OF THESE PROFESSIONAL STEADY HAND TROUBLESHOOTERS NOW.

IF YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE STICKY THING GOING ON IN MINNESOTA AND YOU NEED SOMEONE TO COME IN AND YOU'RE DEMOCRAT OR INDEPENDENT, LEE IS SOMEONE WHO CAN COME IN AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

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