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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," DETAILS ON A RECENT SETTLEMENT THAT COULD CHANGE THE WAY HOMES ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD IN THE U.S. >>> ALSO TONIGHT, WE'LL HEAR ABOUT ARIZONA GIVES DAY, A CHANCE TO CONTRIBUTE TO NONPROFITS ACROSS THE STATE.

>>> AND WE'LL VISIT WITH LONGTIME SCOTTSDALE RESIDENT PAUL MESSINGER DEDICATED TO PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF THE WEST'S MOST WESTERN TOWN.

THOSE STORIES AND NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TODAY JOINED 16 STATES, INCLUDING ARIZONA, IN FILING AN ANTITRUST LAWSUIT AGAINST APPLE.

THE SUIT CLAIMS THAT APPLE VIOLATED ANTITRUST LAW BY PREVENTING OTHER COMPANIES FROM OFFERING APPLICATIONS THAT COMPETE WITH APPLE PRODUCTS.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CLAIMS THAT APPLE'S PRACTICES HURT CONSUMERS AND SMALLER COMPANIES.

>> APPLE CHARGES AS MUCH AS NEARLY $1600 FOR AN iPHONE, BUT AS OUR COMPLAINT ALLEGES, APPLE HAS MAINTAINED MONOPOLY POWER IN THE SMARTPHONE MARKET, NOT SIMPLY BY STAYING AHEAD OF THE COMPETITION ON THE MERITS BUT VIOLATING FEDERAL ANTITRUST LAW.

CONSUMERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY HIGHER PRICES BECAUSE COMPANIES BREAK THE LAW.

>> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ADDED THAT APPLE'S CONDUCT NOT ONLY RESULTS IN HIGHER PRICES BUT ALSO LESS INNOVATION.

>>> CONGRESS TODAY UNVEILED A $1.2 TRILLION SPENDING PLAN DESIGNED TO AVERT A PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THIS WEEKEND.

THE DEAL ALLOWS CONGRESS TO KEEP WORKING ON FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

>> THIS FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS IS GOOD NEWS THAT COMES IN THE NICK OF TIME.

WHEN PASSED, IT WILL EXTINGUISH ANY MORE SHUTDOWN THREATS FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AVOID THE SIGHTS OF BUDGET SEQUESTRATION AND KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN WITHOUT CUTS OR POISON PILL RIDERS.

TED: REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PLEASED WITH ANOTHER CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO FUND THE GOVERNMENT.

>> I THINK THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS BROKEN, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROPRIATIONS BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN LYING IN PUBLIC FOR MONTHS, OVER SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO APPROPRIATE.

ANY FISCAL CONSERVATIVE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT CRs ARE HORRIBLE, DISRUPTIVE, THEY COST MORE MONEY, THEY PREVENT AGENCIES FROM ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY, SUSTAINING BAD PRACTICES, PREVENTING GOOD PRACTICES FROM BEING IMPLEMENTED.

TO ME IT'S A BIPARTISAN FAILURE, WE GOT TO DO BETTER.

TED: STILL UNCLEAR IF CONGRESS WILL GET THE SPENDING PROPOSAL PASSED IN TIME TO AVERT A SHUTDOWN.

>>> ONE MORE NOTE, PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED ANOTHER ROUND OF STUDENT LOAN DEBT FORGIVENESS, CANCELS $5.8 BILLION OF DEBT IMPACTING NEARLY 79,000 PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS WHO MADE TEN YEARS OF MONTHLY PAYMENTS.

QUALIFYING BORROWERS INCLUDE TEACHERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, DOCTORS, NURSES AND GOVERNMENT LAWYERS.

THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CANCELED NEARLY $114 BILLION OF FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN DEBT FOR NEARLY 4 MILLION BORROWERS.

>>> A RECENT SETTLEMENT INVOLVING THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS COULD MEAN SWEEPING REFORMS IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, INCLUDING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE WAY HOMES ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD IN THE U.S. FOR MORE ON THIS, WE WELCOME CATHERINE REAGOR, SENIOR REAL ESTATE REPORTER AT "ARIZONA REPUBLIC" AND AZCENTRAL.COM.

>>> 30,000, WHAT DOES IT DO?

>> CHANGES THE STRUCTURE FOR REAL ESTATE COMMISSIONS AND ESSENTIALLY FROM NOW, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, BIG POWERFUL GROUP THAT SETTLED 418 MILLION, THEY HAVE NOT ADMITTED TO WRONGDOING.

ESSENTIALLY NOW, SELLERS WILL -- LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO UNPACK IN JULY, SELLERS WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING SELLERS' REAL ESTATE COMMISSION.

YOU ARE PAYING 3% TO YOUR AGENT, 3% TO THE BUYER'S AGENT.

THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.

THE FEES ARE ADVERTISED ON THE MLS.

THE SELLER LISTS THE HOME, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 3% COMMISSION, THOSE CAN'T BE ADVERTISED ANYMORE ON THE MLS.

IT CAN BE A PRIVATE AGREEMENT.

TED: OKAY, I'M STILL WITH YOU, SO THE LISTING AGENT CAN'T OFFER COMPENSATION FOR THE BUYING AGENT.

>> YES, YES, THEY CANNOT.

SORRY, THEY CANNOT DO THAT.

TED: LET'S -- JUST TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR, I'M SELLING MY HOUSE TO YOU, HOW DID IT WORK BEFORE?

HOW WILL IT WORK NOW?

>> BEFORE YOU HAVE AGREED COMMISSION WITH REAL ESTATE AGENT, TYPICALLY 6%, YOU WOULD PAY, AND WENT OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY A BUYER'S AGENT 3%, YOU AS AN AGENT PAY THE SELLER'S AGENT 3%, AND THE BUYER'S AGENT 3%.

THAT GOES AWAY.

YOU CAN HAVE SPECIAL AGREEMENTS, BUYERS CAN PAY THAT THEMSELVES FOR THEIR AGENT.

RIGHT NOW TO GIVE, AS A BONUS TO SELL THEIR HOME, SELLERS CAN AGREE TO KEEP PAYING IT OR PAY SOMETHING TO BUYERS, AND ALSO BUYERS NOW HAVE TO HAVE A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WITH THEIR BUYER'S AGENT.

THAT WASN'T MANDATORY BEFORE, SO THEY KNOW THIS IS WHAT I'M GETTING.

THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO PAY YOU.

THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

TED: BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I BOUGHT OR SOLD A HOME.

I NEED TO BE RECHARGED ON THIS, AND HOLY SMOKES, GLAD I HAVEN'T DONE IT IN A WHILE.

ALL OF THIS INCLUDES SOMETHING CALLED STEERING.

WHAT IS THAT?

>> THIS CAME OUT OF THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THE JURY DECIDED IN FAVOR OF THE PLAINTIFFS IN MISSOURI.

IT WAS BASED AROUND STEERING, AND ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT BUYERS' AGENTS WOULD STEER CUSTOMERS TO THE HOMES THEY GOT THE BIGGEST COMMISSION ON.

MAY NOT BE THE BEST DEAL FOR THE BUYER.

MAY NOT BE THE BEST HOME FOR THE BUYER, BUT THEY WERE GETTING THE MOST COMMISSION.

THE JURY FOUND IN FAVOR OF THE PLAINTIFF.

THE NAR SETTLEMENT IS DIFFERENT, AND STEERING IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL, OF COURSE, AND HAVE YOU AGENTS HERE IN ARIZONA WHO SAY, YES, IT HAPPENED ALL THE TIME.

OTHER AGENTS GO NO, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT THIS WILL CHANGE THAT BECAUSE BUYERS WON'T GET THE 3%.

TED: STEERING HOMES, STEERING BUYERS TO THE BIG COMMISSION PLACES DON'T EXIST IF THE BIG COMMISSION PLACES DON'T EXIST.

HOW DOES ALL THIS HAPPEN WITH ZILLOW AND REALTOR.COM?

I THOUGHT THAT EVENED THE PLAYING FIELD A LITTLE BIT.

>> IT DOES.

NOT ALL LISTINGS ARE ON THOSE.

SOME LISTINGS ARE POCKET LISTINGS OR SOME ARE KEPT QUIETLY, YOU WON'T KNOW IT'S FOR SALE.

I COME ACROSS THESE ALL THE TIME.

MAYBE THE AGENT WHO KEEPS IT QUIET MAYBE THE HOME OWNER DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IT'S FOR SALE, BUT THEY CAN TELL OTHER AGENTS ABOUT IT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO ON THE MLS AND DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A "FOR SALE" SIGN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

TED: WILL WE SEE MORE OF THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE WATCHING THIS PLAY OUT.

I CAME ACROSS AN INTERESTING STAT, THE U.S.

PAYS MORE IN REAL ESTATE COMMISSIONS THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.

LAST YEAR THE STUDY CAME OUT, 100 MILLION IN COMMISSIONS AND THEY'RE SAYING, THIS ANALYST IS SAYING 30% OF THAT MUCH IN COMMISSIONS COULD GO AWAY.

TED: ALL THAT GOES AWAY, WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE REAL ESTATE MARKET?

HOME PRICES.

>> I WANT TO SAY, I WOULD NEVER BUY OR SELL A HOME WITHOUT A KNOWLEDGEABLE REAL ESTATE AGENT BECAUSE THEY KNOW SO MUCH.

THEY KNOW MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THE LISTING OR ANYTHING ELSE.

A LOT OF THE VETERAN REAL ESTATE AGENTS, AND THEY'RE SEEING THE NEW AGENTS WHO GOT IN DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE HAD A BOOM GOING ON ARE GETTING OUT OF THE BUSINESS.

HOME SALES ARE DOWN, AND THEY MOSTLY REPRESENT BUYERS, A LOT OF THEM DO, SO IF THAT GOES AWAY, THEN THEY CAN'T MAKE A LIVING.

TED: BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT REALTORS DO MORE THAN JUST DRIVE AROUND SHOWING YOU HOMES WITH SIGNS IN THE GROUND.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

A BUYER'S AGENT CAN HELP YOU GET A MORTGAGE, HELP YOU GET APPRAISAL, GET AN INSPECTOR.

TELL YOU WHAT TO NEGOTIATE AND DOES A LOT OF WORK.

THE AGENTS I TALK TO SAY WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET 6%, THIS IS STILL GOING TO HAPPEN, FOR THE VALUE OF OUR MONEY, THEY DO THE MARKETING FOR THE HIGH-END HOMES, THE MARKETING AND THE TIME THEY SPEND, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT GETTING PAID.

TED: YOU CAN SEE FEES SUCH AS THEY ARE ROLLED INTO MORTGAGES?

THESE SORTS OF THINGS?

>> WELL, THAT IS.

EACH STATE HAS DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE LAWS BUT COMMISSION SAID, I'M TOLD LIE LENDERS, IT IS ILLEGAL TO TROLL INTO A MORTGAGE.

TED: OKAY.

>> A BUYER CAN NEGOTIATE FOR THE SELLER TO PAY THE FEES UP-FRONT, AND I DO THINK THERE WILL BE MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT FOR BUYERS.

TED: YEAH, YEAH.

AS FAR AS THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY AND REALTORS ARE CONCERNED, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THEM ARE DROPPING OUT.

ARE WE GOING TO SEE FEWER PEOPLE GETTING INTO THE BUSINESS?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING AS WELL.

IF YOU LOOK AT MEMBERSHIP.

MEMBERSHIP IS DOWN.

PEOPLE DIDN'T RENEW THEIR MEMBERSHIPS, AND IF IT'S NOT THE LUCRATIVE BUSINESS THEY WALK INTO, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET YOUR LICENSE, PAY TO BE A MEMBER OF NAR AND MLS, SO IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE IF YOU ARE JUST SELLING ONE HOUSE A YEAR.

TED: LAST QUESTION, LET'S SAY SOMEONE IS THINKING OF SELLING AFTER THIS TAKES EFFECT, SELLING IN THE FALL OR ALONG THOSE LINES, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO KNOW?

>> IF THEY'RE THINKING OF SELLING, THE FIRST THING IS, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 6% COMMISSION, RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

TYPICAL 3% GOES TO THE SELLER'S AGENT.

IF THE MARKET DOESN'T PICK UP, IF INTEREST RATES ARE STILL HIGH, THEY MAY HAVE TO GET CREATIVE TO PAY THE AGENT'S COMMISSION.

TED: IF YOU WANT A GOOD REALTOR TO DO A GOOD JOB, YOU COULD WIND UP PAYING WHAT YOU PAID BEFORE, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED, THERE'S NOT A MANDATE, NOT A DEAL GOING ON?

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT CHANGES.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING, THIS COULD BE REALLY COMPLICATED.

>> IT IS.

TED: CATHERINE REAGOR, "ARIZONA REPUBLIC" AND AZCENTRAL.COM.

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TED: APRIL 2nd IS ARIZONA GIVES DAY, A SPECIAL DAY SET ASIDE TO ENCOURAGE ARIZONA RESIDENTS TO CONTRIBUTE TO 800 NONPROFITS ACROSS THE STATE.

JOINING US IS JENNIFER PURCELL, CHIEF IMPACT OFFICER FOR AZ IMPACT FOR GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

TED: GIVE US A BETTER DEFINITION OF ARIZONA GIVES DAY.

>> IT IS OUR STATE ONLINE GIVING DAY FOR NONPROFITS.

IT'S AN ONLINE WEBSITE, AZGIVES.ORG AND WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND NONPROFITS PARTICIPATING THIS YEAR.

TED: EVEN MORE, A LOT MORE THAN 800.

AND THE FOCUS IS ONLINE?

>> CORRECT.

TED: HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> SO ANY DONOR, ANY PERSON CAN GO TO AZGIVES.ORG, CLICK ON DONATE AND CHOOSE FROM OVER A THOUSAND NONPROFITS.

LIKE A SHOPPING CART EXPERIENCE ESSENTIALLY BUT FOR DONATING.

TED: HOW DO PEOPLE, SAY I'VE GOT THE TED FUND, HOW DO I GET THAT ON THE SITE?

>> SO IT'S JUST -- EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

CLICKING ON LEARN MORE AND EACH PROFILE PAGE FOR NONPROFIT, YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY DO.

YOU COULD FILTER AND SEARCH BY MISSION TYPE, THE AREA OF STATE THEY'RE LOCATED IN, AND ADD THAT TO THE CART.

YOU PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND CONTINUE SHOPPING.

TED: ARE THERE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR NONPROFITS?

>> MUST BE A 501(C)(3) ORGANIZATION OR HEADQUARTERED IN ARIZONA TO PARTICIPATE.

TED: TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE LOCAL NONPROFITS AND LOCAL CAUSES BY JUST SIMPLY CLICK, THE INFORMATION THERE SHOULD BE SUCCINCT BUT PRETTY INVOLVED AS WELL?

>> CORRECT, YEAH.

NONPROFITS HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY WANT ON THE PROFILE PAGE, BUT ALL OF THEM INCLUDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU CAN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND LOOK UP INFORMATION.

WE ALWAYS SUGGEST GOING TO RESOURCES LIKE GUIDE STAR OR CHARITY NAVIGATOR TO LOOK FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE CHOICES AND CHOOSE THE CAUSES THAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

TED: GUIDE STAR AND CHARITY NAVIGATOR, WHAT ARE THOSE?

>> BOTH ORGANIZATIONS WHO DO RESEARCH ON NONPROFITS.

THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION LIKE THEIR 990s, THE IRS TAX FORMS THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT, AND THEY BASICALLY MAKE SURE THE ORGANIZATION IS A LEGITIMATE ORGANIZATION, AND WE DO THAT VETTING AS WELL, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ORGANIZATION IS IN GOOD STANDING AND THAT ALL DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 40% OF THEM THAT QUALIFY FOR AN ARIZONA TAX CREDIT.

TED: INTERESTING, INTERESTING.

THE STATE OF THE NONPROFIT SECTOR IN ARIZONA, HOW YOU DOING?

>> SO IT'S STRONG, BUT WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE SINCE THE PANDEMIC IN DONATIONS.

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION IS MORE THAN 10% DECLINE IN DONATIONS, SO AS WE ALL KNOW, WITH THE ECONOMY BEING A LITTLE CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF NONPROFITS ARE STILL PROVIDING SERVICES AT THE PANDEMIC LEVELS FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND THEY REALLY NEED THAT SUPPORT.

TED: THE POST-COVID DROP, IS IT MOSTLY INFLATION, OR OTHER THINGS GOING ON HERE?

>> I THINK IT'S A MIX, A MIXTURE OF INFLATION, BUT ALSO DURING PANDEMIC, PEOPLE WERE FEELING THAT CHARITABLE SPIRIT, SO WE HAVE SEEN A BIT OF A PULLBACK FROM THAT, AS WALLETS HAVE TIGHTENED, ESSENTIALLY.

TED: YEAH, COLLABORATION AMONG NONPROFITS, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED?

>> HIGHER LEVEL OF COLLABORATION, GROUPS WORKING TOGETHER.

WE FORTUNATELY HERE IN THE STATE HAVE A GROUP WHO ENCOURAGES COLLABORATION, AND ACTUALLY PROVIDES SOME FUNDING TO HELP THEM DO THAT RESEARCH TO DETERMINE THAT, BUT GROUPS ARE DEFINITELY COLLABORATING TOGETHER.

I HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.

TED: YEAH, AND AS FAR AS AZ IMPACT FOR GOOD, TELL US ABOUT THAT?

>> IT IS A NEW NAME FOR FOLKS, BUT MAY BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE ALLIANCE OF ARIZONA NONPROFITS AND ARIZONA GRANT MAKERS FORUM.

WE MERGED IN AUGUST OF 2022, SO WE'RE STILL THE SAME ORGANIZATION BUT NEW, SO WE'RE EXCITES TO DO THE SAME THING, BUT WORKING TOGETHER TO COLLABORATE WITH THE PHILANTHROPIC FUNDERS.

TED: IS THE MERGER WORKING WELL?

>> DOING GREAT.

GREAT NEWS.

TED: JENNIFER PURCELL, AZ IMPACT FOR GOOD.

GOOD LUCK.

BUSY DAY.

>> YEAH, APRIL 2nd.

TED: THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

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TED: LONGTIME SCOTTSDALE RESIDENT PAUL MESSINGER DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF WHAT RESIDENTS LONG REFERRED TO AS THE WEST'S MOST WESTERN TOWN.

MESSINGER HAS WRITTEN A NEW BOOK TITLED "SCOTTDALE MEMORIES," BOOK INCLUDES 50 PERSONAL STORIES ABOUT THE TOWN HE LOVES, AND WE WELCOME SCOTTSDALE'S HISTORIAN EMERITUS, PAUL MESSINGER.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE.

TED: YOU'VE BEEN AROUND AWHILE, BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A COUPLE OF TIMES?

>> ABOUT 81 YEARS.

TED: TALK ABOUT SCOTTSDALE WHEN YOU FIRST SAW IT AND JUST LIVING IN SCOTTSDALE, THAT PLACE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH?

>> SCOTTSDALE HAD ABOUT 300 PEOPLE AND HAD 22 OR 23 DAIRIES AROUND IT.

EVERYBODY GOT UP IN THE MORNING AND MILKED COWS, AND AFTERNOON AT 2:30, EVERYBODY LEFT HIGH SCHOOL TO GO HOME AND MILK.

THERE WAS PROBABLY A DOZEN KIDS LEFT IN HIGH SCHOOL.

TED: WOW.

WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND SCOTTSDALE NOW AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GOING, DO YOU SAY THAT'S SO AND SO'S FARM OR SO AND SO'S FIELD, DO YOU STILL REMEMBER THOSE THINGS?

>> I STILL DO.

I LOOK DOWN AT SCHRADER'S FARM, ZIMMERMAN'S, JERSEY RANCH, ALL THE DIFFERENT RANCHES, ALL THE TIME I PASS, I SEE THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY, THIS IS OLD PROPERTY, YOU DO, YES.

TED: YEAH, BUT DOES IT STILL FEEL LIKE SCOTTSDALE TO YOU NOW?

IT IS SO BIG AND GLITZY AND NOISY.

DOES IT STILL FEEL LIKE HOME?

>> IT STILL DOES BECAUSE IT CAME ON SO GRADUALLY.

TED: YEAH.

>> YEAH.

IT CHANGED, BUT IT HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY.

TED: TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES AND THE BIGGEST OF THE CHANGES?

>> WELL, I THINK THE BIGGEST OF THE CHANGES IS THE ROADS.

WE HAVE HAD TO BUILD FREEWAYS THROUGH SCOTTSDALE, AND THE OLD DAYS, A CAR PASSED ONCE IN A WHILE.

TODAY, THE CARS ARE STACKED UP.

IT'S BUSY.

TED: BASICALLY ROADS, THE PARADA DEL SOL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND SPRING TRAINING.

THAT STUFF ATTRACTED PEOPLE.

BROUGHT THEM ALL OUT HERE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IT DID, AND JOBS AND HEALTH, AND I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE CAME AND MANY OF THEM CAME FOR HEALTH AND GOT HEALTHY.

MY DAD WAS -- WHEN WE GOT HERE IN 1942, MY DAD WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, THEY SAID, HE WOULD LIKELY LIVE.

AS IT WAS, HE LIVED ANOTHER 45 YEARS.

TED: HOLY SMOKES!

GOOD FOR HIM.

>> 90 GOING TO WORK.

TED: GOOD FOR HIM, GOODNESS GRACIOUS, YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF THIS GROWTH.

YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH PUBLIC SERVICE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE?

>> WE WERE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, YES, BUT I THINK THERE WAS SO FEW OF US, ALL OF US WERE ACTIVE.

BILL SCHRADER WAS MAYOR, I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, I SPENT FIVE YEARS DEVELOPING A COLLEGE WITH SCOTTSDALE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CHAIRED THE COMMITTEE THAT DID THAT, AND I WORKED ON THE AIRPORT.

THERE WERE SO FEW OF US, THAT WE HAD TO ALL PARTICIPATE.

TED: ON THE THINGS -- OBVIOUSLY THE FUNERAL HOME, THE MEMORIAL CHAPEL.

ANYONE WHO'S BEEN AROUND THE VALLEY IN THE EAST VALLEY KNOWS MESSINGERS, SEEN IT YEARS AND YEARS, WHEN ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED, THE COLLEGE AND THE ROADS, DID IT FEEL LIKE IT WAS OUT OF CONTROL?

>> LIKE IT WAS WHAT?

TED: LIKE IT WAS OUT OF CONTROL?

>> NOPE.

WE WERE RUNNING AN OPPOSITION TO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE ARMY ENGINEERS WANTED US TO PUT CEMENT LINE DITCHES DOWN THE CENTER OF THE INDIAN BEND WASH, WE WANTED TO PUT PLAYING FIELDS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS SO WE TRADED DENSITY TO LOCAL PEOPLE WHO GAVE US THE WASH, AND MY FATHER WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEY BOUGHT 30 SCHOOL SITES IN ONE DAY.

EVERY TWO MILES UP AND DOWN THE HALF MILE ROADS.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE SCHOOL SITES ON SCOTTSDALE ROAD, INDIAN SCHOOL, THOMAS, McDOWELL.

THEY WANTED TO SEE THEM ON GRANITE REEF, ROOSEVELT, OSBORNE AND THE HALF MILE ROADS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE KIDS TO HAVE TO WALK ON HEAVY TRAFFIC ROADS.

AND TODAY OUR SCHOOLS ARE LOCATED THAT WAY, AND WE HAVE LESS SCHOOL BUSES THAN OTHER DISTRICTS.

TED: ISN'T THAT INTERESTING?

I'M STARTING TO THINK, I THINK THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT IS NOT ON A MAIN DRAG.

50 STORIES IN THIS BOOK, WAS IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP IT TO 50?

>> NO, IT WASN'T.

I DID HAVE TO PICK 50 STORIES.

I HAVE THREE, TWO BOOKS.

I'VE GOT THE STORIES WRITTEN FOR A THIRD BOOK.

HERE ARE THE TWO BOOKS RIGHT HERE.

AND BOOK ONE AND BOOK TWO, AND EACH OF THEM HAVE 50 STORIES, AND I HAVE A BOOK THREE THAT I HAVE THE STORIES WRITTEN, BUT I'M GETTING THE PICTURES.

TED: YEAH.

WHEN YOU SEE THE PICTURES, DOES IT HELP WITH THE STORY?

DOES IT HELP BRING BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES?

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>> IT DOES, IT DOES.

THE PICTURES DO.

AND IN SCOTTSDALE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

SO MANY OF OUR PEOPLE HAVE STAYED A LIFETIME, BILL SCHRADER WAS THE MAYOR, HE WAS 14 YEARS THE PRESIDENT OF SRP, ALBERT OWENS, OUR NEIGHBOR UP THE STREET BECAME A GENERAL, AND BASE COMMANDER UP IN MONTANA AND CALIFORNIA.

RUSTY LYONS IN MY SAME CLASS, ENDED UP OWNING 28 SHOPPING CENTERS, INCLUDING OUR MAIN SHOPPING CENTERS IN SCOTTSDALE, AND DIED A BILLIONAIRE.

THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAD GOOD SUCCESS, AND WE'VE ENJOYED EVERY YEAR OF IT.

TED: YEAH, YEAH, AND YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF EVERY YEAR OF IT AS WELL.

>> WE TRIED.

TED: THIS LATEST BOOK, "SCOTTDALE MEMORIES," WHO ARE THEY WRITTEN FOR?

>> WHO WHAT?

TED: WHO ARE THEY WRITTEN FOR?

>> PEOPLE THAT CAME LATER AND MAYBE DON'T KNOW THE PAST, AND I THINK THAT I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT 800 OF THEM, 800 STORIES THEY WROTE FOR THE "ARIZONA REPUBLIC," AND THESE ARE MOSTLY A COLLECTION OF THOSE STORIES FROM THAT TIME.

TED: YES, YES.

GO AHEAD, HAVE A DRINK THERE.

AS FAR AS WHAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME, OR ALL OF US, EVERYONE WHO IS HERE GOT HERE FOR THE MOST PART AFTER YOU WERE ALREADY HERE FOR A WHILE.

>> YES.

TED: WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT SCOTTSDALE?

>> OH, I THINK WE'VE GOT GOOD PEOPLE THAT WE HAD WHEN WE STARTED THE EARLY DAYS, AND WINFIELD SCOTT AND WILLIAM J. MURPHY THAT DUG THE CANAL AND UTLEY THAT LAID OUT THE ORIGINAL TOWN SITE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED AND ADDED SOME PIECE OF IT, AND BILL SCHRADER, ENLARGED THE CITY UP CAREFREE HIGHWAY, AND WHEN HE BROUGHT THE COLLEGE IN, WE DIDN'T HAVE LAND FOR THE COLLEGE, SO WE WORKED WITH INDIAN TRIBES AND THEY WERE NICE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH US ON THE LAND.

TODAY, THE PIMA, MARICOPA AND MANY OF THE McDOWELL MOUNTAIN INDIANS SHARE IN USING THAT COLLEGE, AND MY GRANDCHILDREN AND OTHERS HAVE ATTENDED.

TED: WELL, I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT'S A PLEASURE SPEAKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THESE BOOK CASE AND WONDERFUL LIFE.

AND KEEP IT GOING, WILL YOU?

>> I WILL.

TED: THANK YOU.

>> YOU BET.

TED: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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