COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: THE IMPACT OF THE NEW POPE ON ISSUES FACING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE WORLD... ALSO TONIGHT: WE'LL HEAR ABOUT EFFORTS TO INCREASE LIVING KIDNEY DONATIONS... AND, WE'LL MEET THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK SERIES AIMED AT INTRODUCING YOUNGER READERS TO A VERY ACTIVE GRANDMA.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE U.S. TRADE WAR WITH CHINA TOOK A STEP BACK TODAY AS BOTH COUNTRIES AGREED TO DROP TARIFFS BY 115% FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

THE AGREEMENT COMES AS THE U.S. WAS MOVING TOWARD A SELF- INFLICTED RECESSION AND POSSIBLE SUPPLY-CHAIN MELTDOWN.

IT'S A CLEAR RETREAT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE WAS ALL SMILES OVER THE TEMPORARY DEAL.

>> THIS THIS IS OBVIOUSLY TWO DAY'S WORK, AND THERE'S 90 DAYS MORE WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LAND THE PLANE.

BUT THE PLANE IS RIGHT THERE OVER THE RUNWAY.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S MUCH HOPE OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO BACK.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A SOUND DEAL.

>> HASSET ADDED THAT THE DEAL WAS A QUOTE, "FRESH START," WITH CHINA.

IT CERTAINLY MADE FOR A FRESH START TO THE WEEK ON WALL STREET: THE DOW ROSE MORE THAN 1100 POINTS, OR 2.8%.

THE NASDEQ RALLIED 4.3%, AND THE S&P INCREASED 3.75%.

ALSO: THE U.S. DOLLAR STRENGTHENED AND TREASURY YIELDS IMPROVED.

OTHER HEADLINES: HOUSE REPUBLICANS RELEASED PLANS TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE HEALTH-CARE POLICY, INCLUDING CUTS TO MEDICAID AND OBAMACARE MARKET-PLACES.

THOSE CUTS WOULD TOTAL AROUND $700 MILLION OVER THE NEXT DECADE, AND, ACCORDING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE WOULD RESULT IN AN ESTIMATED 8.6 MILLION AMERICANS BECOMING UNINSURED, WITH MILLIONS MORE PAYING HIGHER FEES FOR DOCTOR VISITS.

THE PLAN IS CONSIDERED A COMPROMISE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS WHO WANTED MORE CUTS TO MEDICAID, AND THOSE IN SWING DISTRICTS WHO WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN THOSE CUTS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

HOURS AFTER THE GOP HEALTH PLAN WAS RELEASED, THE PRESIDENT SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ASKING DRUG-MAKERS TO VOLUNTARILY REDUCE PRICES IN THE U.S.

THE ORDER INCLUDES NO LEGAL MANDATE, AND THUS IS CONSIDERED A WIN FOR U.S. DRUGMAKERS, WHO WERE EXPECTING MUCH TOUGHER ACTION FROM THE WHITE HOUSE IN REGARD TO DRUG PRICES.

AND REACTION TO A U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE TEMPORARILY STOPPING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S PLANS TO TRANSFER LAND IN THE TONTO NATIONAL FOREST FOR A MASSIVE COPPER MINING PROJECT.

THE AREA IN QUESTION, KNOWN AS OAK FLAT, IS CONSIDERED SACRED BY SOME NATIVE AMERICAN GROUPS.

THOSE GROUPS: PLEASED WITH THE INJUNCTION.

>> WE COULDN'T GRASP THAT WE ACTUALLY WON, THAT IT ACTUALLY WENT IN OUR FAVOR BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> I HAVEN'T YET HAD CHILDREN, BUT WHEN I DO, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO CARRY THIS.

BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF RESILIENCY THAT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE TO HEED ABOUT.

THE INJUNCTION REMAINS IN PLACE UNTIL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT CONSIDERS A PREVIOUS LOWER COURT RULING THAT ALLOWED THE LAND TO BE TRANSFERRED FOR THE MINE.

LAST WEEK'S SELECTION OF A U.S. CARDINAL AS THE NEXT POPE HAS LOTS OF FOLKS WONDERING ABOUT THE NEW PONTIFF, NOW KNOWN AS POPE LEO XIV, AND WHAT HIS SELECTION MEANS TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND TO SOCIAL AND CULTURAL ISSUES WORLD-WIDE.

JOINING US NOW IS CATHERINE O'DONNELL FROM ASU'S SCHOOL OF HISTORICAL, PHILOSOPHICAL AND RELIGIOUS STUDIES.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I LIKE THE TITLE BECAUSE THERE'S HISTORY, THERE'S PHILOSOPHY AND RELIGION WITH THIS PICK.

WHO IS POPE LEO XIV?

>> WELL, AS WE KNOW, HE IS THE FIRST AMERICAN POPE, WHICH IS IN ITSELF A REMARKABLE DEVELOPMENT.

HE IS AN AUGUST CITIZENNIAN FRYER, ALSO THE FIRST -- HE'S AN AUGUST CITIZENNIAN FRIAR, SO HE IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS DEVOTED TO LEARNING AND GOOD WORK TO WORKING WITH VULNERABLE PEOPLE AND HAS BEEN FOR CENTURIES.

HE'S SPENT MUCH OF HIS LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL.

>> AUGUSTINIAN FRIAR, THAT IS A GROUP THAT FOCUSES ON, WHAT, JUST OUTWARDLY GOOD WORK?

>> YEAH.

SO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES WITHIN IT, FRANCIS, THE JESUITS, THE NEW POPE IS A MEMBER OF THE AUGUSTINIANS.

AND THEIR VOWS IS THEY TURN TOWARDS SHARING.

SO HE HAS SPENT HIS LIFE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

>> WAS THIS SELECTION A SURPRISE?

>> IT WAS ABSOLUTELY A SURPRISE.

AND I WAS LAUGHING WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO KIND OF WORK ON CATHOLICISM, AND WE ALL SAID THE ONE THING WE WERE WILLING TO PREDICT IS THAT IT WAS NOT BE AN AMERICAN, AND WE WERE WRONG.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS CHOSEN?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, IN BEHIND SIGHT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE.

ITALIAN PAPAL THE WEEK BEFORE THE CONCLAVE SAID HE'S THE LEAST AMERICAN OF AMERICANS.

MEANING HE SPOKE MANY LAKES.

HE HAD LIVED ABROAD.

HE ALSO -- NOT TO BE I REFERENT BUT KIND OF CHECKS THE BOXES THAT YOU WANT IN A POPE.

SO HE DOES HAVE THIS MISSIONARY COMPONENT, HE HAS SPENT HIS LIFE IN SERVICE TO OTHERS.

YOU CAN IMAGINE HIM ON A WORLD STAGE, A POPE IS A GLOBAL FIGURE.

AND HE ALSO IS AN ADMINISTRATOR, RIGHT.

HAD THE VATICAN IS LIKE THE ORIGINAL BUREAUCRACY.

AND HE'S HAD POSITIONS WHERE HE HAS HAD TO KNOW HOW TO MOVE THE LEVERS OF THE BIG ORGANIZATIONS.

>> INTERESTING.

COMPARE HIM TO POPE FRANCIS.

>> YES.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT HE HAS EMBRACED FRANCIS' VIEW OF SINADALITY, WHICH IS JUST A FANCY WAY OF SAYING THE CHURCH SHOULD BE A WELCOMING PLACE IN WHICH MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING LAYPEOPLE, PARTICIPATE IN DECISIONS.

HE'S EMBRACED THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HE WALKED OUT, AND HE HAD ON THAT BALCONY, HE WAS WEARING MORE TRADITIONAL PAPAL GARB.

HE READS LATIN.

THERE'S SOME HOPE AMONG CONSERVATIVES AMERICAN CATHOLICS THAT HE WILL ACCEPT SOME OF THE MORE CONSERVATIVE CULTURAL BE TENANTS THAT THEY BELIEVE IN.

I THINK THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION.

>> YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE -- AND CATHOLIC CHURCH IN AMERICA CAN BE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN MANY WAYS.

BUT HE DOESN'T SEEM QUITE AS PROVOCATIVE AS POPE FRANCIS.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> WELL, HAVING LEARNED NOT TO PREDICT, BUT I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.

I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE IN REGARD WHAT I'VE READ AND HEARD TO IMAGINE HIM WALKING UP AND DOWN THE AISLE OF HIS PLANE KIND OF CASUALLY ANSWERING QUESTIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT FRANCIS DID.

HE'S KNOWN AS RESERVED AND SOFT-SPOKEN.

BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE WRONG TO IMAGINE THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CAN BE MAPPED ON TO THE AMERICAN POLITICAL OR CULTURAL ENVIRONMENT, IT'S ITS OWN THING.

>> WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THISES BEING THE FIRST POPE FROM THE U.S. >> IT WAS SIGNIFICANT.

FOR A LONG TIME IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE PRACTICALLY BECAUSE AMERICANS DIDN'T EVEN GET TO ROAM UNTIL THE CONCLAVE WAS OVER HALF THE TIME AND THE UNITED STATES WAS SO POWERFUL THAT TO HAVE THOSE POWERS SPIRITUAL AND TEMPORAL OVERLAP SEEMED THREATENING.

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HONESTLY THAT AN AMERICAN POPE WOULD BE EITHER REBUKE TRUMPISM OR AN EMBRACE OF IT.

AND THE CARDINALS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT.

CLEARLY THIS FIGURE WAS COMPELLING ENOUGH AND SEEMED POTENTIALLY UNIFYING ENOUGH THAT THE CONCLAVE FELT MOVED TO SELECT HIM.

AND WE'LL SEE.

I MEAN, HE IS AN AMERICAN ON THE WORLD STAGE, WHO IS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE NATION.

AND THAT IS JUST JUST A IN YOU AND INTERESTING THING.

>> IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH, FROM WHAT I'VE READ ABOUT THE GUY, HEARD ABOUT THE GUY, THAT HE WAS -- PERU IS ALMOST HIS HOME COUNTRY.

I MEAN, HE IS VERY WELL-KNOWN IN LATIN AMERICA THAT HAD TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

HE SPEAKS FIVE OR SIX LANGUAGES.

I BELIEVE HE'S A PERUVIAN CITIZEN.

APPARENTLY EVERYONE LOCALLY THERE HAVE THEIR OWN STORY ABOUT HIM.

AND I THINK THAT MADE HIM SEEN A MAN OF THE CHURCH AND NOT A MAN OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> CAN THIS PARTICULAR UPON ACTIVE -- I MEAN, SO MUCH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH POPES COME FROM LATIN AMERICA, WILL THEY LISTEN?

WHAT HAS BEEN THE RESPONSE ON AFRICA AND LATIN NEXT.

>> HE HAS BEEN EMBRACED SO FAR?

>> THERE'S BEEN EXCITEMENT IN LATIN AMERICA.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AFRICAN CARDINALS WHO WERE -- WHOSE NAMES WERE MENTIONED, SO THAT MAY BE A DISAPPOINTMENT THAT ONE OF THEM WASN'T CHOSEN.

BUT WE'LL SEE.

I MEAN, I THINK THE THINKING WAS, HE WAS SUFFICIENTLY CHARISMATIC.

I DON'T THINK I WAS CHOSEN FOR THAT, BUT THAT HE WOULDN'T -- HE'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO LISTEN TO.

>> SO WHAT DO WE WATCH FOR?

WHAT DO WE TRY TO GLEAN FROM HIS WORDS AND HIS ACTIONS?

>> YEAH.

THAT THE CHURCH IS A REALM OF SYMBOLS, RIGHT.

SO I THINK WE'LL SEE WHAT DECISIONS HE MAKES ABOUT THE LATIN MASS, WHICH IS A FLASH POINT AROUND WHICH PEOPLE HAVE ORGANIZED, WHO -- SOME OF WHOM ARE TRYING TO PULL THE CHURCH BACK TO SOMETHING MORE TRADITIONAL.

WHERE DOES HE GO?

RIGHT?

WHERE DOES HE TRAVEL FIRST?

WHERE DOES HE TRAVEL NEXT?

DOES HE CONTINUE TO HAVE SORT OF SIN EEDS OR BRING GROUPS IN TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE CHURCH SHOULD BE RUN.

HOW DOES HE THINK ABOUT WOMEN IN THE CHURCH?

THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS.

>> WOW, THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS, AND A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF ISSUES FACING THE CHURCH.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE ABOUT THAT AS YOU MENTIONED TRUMPISM AND AMERICAN CATHOLICISM AND THE WHOLE 9 YARDS.

YOU'LL BE BUSY, THAT'S FOR SURE.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THOUGH.

>> THANK YOU.

KIDNEY TRANSPLANTS ARE THE MOST COMMON FORM OF LIVING ORGAN DONATION.

BUT A SHORTAGE OF DONORS PERSISTS AMID QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS SURROUNDING KIDNEY DONATION.

TO LEARN MORE, WE WELCOME DR. CARRIE JADLOWIEC.

SHE A TRANSPLANT SURGEON AT THE MAYO CLINIC ARIZONA.

WELCOME BACK TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THANK YOU.

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

OKAY, LIVE, DONOR KIDNEYS.

HOW COMMON?

>> WELL, THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE COMMON THAN YOU MIGHT THINK.

LIVING DONOR KIDNEYS.

ON AVERAGE IN THE UNITED STATES WE SEE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 6,000 TO 7,000 PEOPLE COME FORWARD TO BE LIVING KIDNEY DONORS EVERY YEAR.

LAST YEAR WE HAD MORE THAN 7,000 PEOPLE THAT CAME FORWARD AND DONATED A KIDNEY.

>> THE BENEFITS OF A LIVING DONOR KIDNEY.

I MEAN, I'VE READ THAT IT'S A SHORTER WAITING PERIOD AND FEWER COMPLICATIONS.

TRUE?

>> YEAH.

SO THOSE ARE ALL TRUE.

SO THERE'S A REALLY BIG NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT ARE WAITING FOR A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT.

ON AVERAGE WE HAVE AROUND 150,000 PEOPLE WAITING FOR A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, ONLY ABOUT 30,000 PEOPLE OUT OF THAT 150,000 WILL ACTUALLY GET TRANSPLANTED IN A YEAR, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS IS DUE TO A SHORTAGE IN DONORS.

SO LIVING KIDNEY DONORS CAN POTENTIALLY FILL IN THE VOID OR THAT GAP BY HELPING PEOPLE TO GET A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT FASTER.

>> IS IT TRUE THAT LIVING KIDNEY DONOR TRANSPLANTS, THOSE KIDNEYS ACTUALLY FUNCTION LONG CENTER.

>> THEY DO.

IT DEPENDS, AGAIN.

BUT ON AVERAGE WE SEE THAT A DECEASED OWNER COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 12 YEARS.

AND AVERAGES ARE MADE UP OF HIGHER THAN LOWS, AND LIVING DON'T KERR LAST 15 TO 20 YEARS.

>> MY GOODNESS.

SO SHORTER WAITING PERIOD, FEWER COMPLICATIONS.

THEY FUNCTION LONGER.

HOW DOES THE MATCHING PROCESS WORK?

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A SHORTAGE OF DONORS, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE ON A FAST TRACK.

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNFAMILIAR THAT IT'S AN OPTION AND ALSO ARE UNAWARE OF WHAT STEPS IT TAKES TO BECOME A POTENTIAL KIDNEY DONOR.

>> WHAT ARE THOSE STEPS?

>> THE FIRST STEP IS JUST BEING INTERESTED AND COMING FORWARD TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE A POTENTIAL KIDNEY DONOR.

THAT'S STEP 1.

PART 2 IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH AN EVALUATION.

I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PERK THAT IS UNFAMILIAR TO PEOPLE.

THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT THAT EVALUATION PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

>> IS IT LIKE BLOOD TESTS AND IMAGING?

>> BLOOD TESTS MEETING WITH A TEAM OF PHYSICIANS AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE DONOR'S HEALTH, SEEING IF THEY ARE HEALTHY TO BEGIN WITH, WHAT THEIR RISKS MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH PROCEEDING WITH KIDNEY DONATION AND THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR AFTERWARDS, TOO.

>> AND SO YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND YOU'RE CONSIDERED A GOOD PERSON THERE.

WHAT IS THE SURGERY LIKE?

HOW INVASIVE IS IT?

>> YEAH.

SO ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT PART ALSO HAS GOTTEN A LOT EASIER OVER THE YEARS.

SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ADVANCES BOTH IN THE EVALUATION PROCESS AS WELL AS IN THE SURGICAL PART OF DONATION, AND SO NOW THAT PROCESS IS MINIMALLY INVASIVE, AND IT'S ALSO APPROACHED THROUGH A FAST TRACK TYPE SITUATION WHERE ON AVERAGE MOST KIDNEY DONOR ALSO PROBABLY SPEND ABOUT ONE NIGHT IN THE HOSPITAL.

A LOT OF KIDNEY DONORS FEEL PRETTY WELL RECOVERED BY TWO TO THREE WEEKS OUT AFTER THEIR SURGERY AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO RESUME ALL OF THEIR NORMAL ACTIVITIES USUALLY WITHIN SIX WEEKS.

>> ABLE TO RESUME ALL OF YOUR ACTIVITIES, BUT YOU'VE JUST DONATED AN ORGAN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TWO KIDNEYS ANYMORE.

>> I KNOW, ISN'T THAT AMAZING.

>> I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET PAST.

>> IT'S HONESTLY EASIER AND SIMPLER THAN I THINK PEOPLE REALIZE, AND A LOT OF TRANSPLANT CENTERS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING OURS HERE AT MAYO CLINIC HAVE WORKED TO MAKE THAT PROCESS EASIER FOR DONORS.

WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE BUSY AND THEY HAVE COMPLEX LIVES.

THE EASIER THAT PROCESS CAN BE, WE KNOW THAT WILL MAKE IT SIMPLER TO COME FORWARD AND POTENTIALLY DONATE.

>> BUT THERE ARE RISKS INVOLVED.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE RISK AS SOON AS.

>> THERE'S SMALL RISKS.

I THINK YOU CAN THINK OF IT IN TWO ASPECTS.

ONE ARE RISK RELATED TO THE SURGERY ITSELF.

AND SO THOSE RISKS ARE ALL LOW.

THEY'RE ALL LESS THAN 1%.

WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE SURGERY.

THE FIRST KIDNEY DONATION HAPPENED OVER 70 YEARS AGO IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAY AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ADVANCES IN SURGICAL TECHNIQUE.

SO THAT RISK IS VERY LOW.

AND THE OTHER COMPONENT TO THINK ABOUT IS ALSO MEDICAL RISK AS POTENTIALLY DEVELOPING CHRONIC KIDNEY DISEASE.

>> YEAH, WELL, YOU'VE GOT ONE KIDNEY NOW.

>> YOU DO.

>> IS THIS, DO YOU THINK -- IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S DIALYSIS, AND THEN IT'S TRANSPLANT.

IS THIS EASIER ON THE BODY?

EASIER ALL THE WAY AROUND AND DIALYSIS?

-- THAN DIALYSIS?

>> FOR SURE.

THE BRIDGE I WOULD SAY BETWEEN DIALYSIS AND TRANSPLANT IDEALLY IS GETTING A TRANSPLANT IN BETWEEN WHICH WE CALL A PRE-EMPTIVE KIDNEY TRANSPLANT, THAT'S WHERE SOMEONE IS FOLLOWED BY A PHYSICIAN, THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE KIDNEY DISEASE.

THEY GET REFERRED EARLY FOR TRANSPLANT AND THEN WE CAN START THE PROCESS EARLY LOOKING FOR A POTENTIAL DONOR.

>> SO IT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO DIALYSIS.

YOU WOULD NEVER START DIALYSIS?

>> CORRECT.

>> WOW, MEDICAL THOUGHT MUST HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT ON THAT, THAT HASN'T?

>> IT'S THE PREFERRED APPROACH AND WHAT WE TRY TO INFORM OUR PATIENTS ABOUT AND OUR PROVIDERS, BUT IT'S STILL -- THERE ARE STILL GAPS OBVIOUSLY IN GETTING PEOPLE REFERRED EARLY.

>> YEAH, I THINK THE IDEA, FORGET DIALYSIS, GO FOR THE TRANSPLANT.

REAL QUICKLY, BEFORE YOU GO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A KIDNEY -- LIVING KIDNEY AND LIVING LIVER DONATIONS.

LIVER, YOU JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT?

IS THAT TRUE?

>> THAT IS TRUE.

SO A PORTION OF YOUR LIVER GETS DONATED IN LIVING LIVER DONATION VERSUS IN KIDNEY DONATION, IT'S THE WHOLE KIDNEY.

>> YEAH.

>> SO BASICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIVING KIDNEY DONATION, THIS IS THE WAVE OF THE -- THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK BACK ON AND SAY HOLY SMOKES, I WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD -- KNEW MORE ABOUT THIS BACK IN THE DAY.

>> I THINK SO.

I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED MORE.

NOW I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SPREADING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYONE ELSE.

SO -- YEAH, AND THE PUBLIC.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DOCTOR.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE ON LIVING DONOR KIDNEYS.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> TONIGHT PART OF OUR MONTHLY AARP SPONSORED SEGMENT TO HIGHLIGHT IMPORTANT ISSUES TO OLDER ADULTS IN ARIZONA.

WE LOOK AT A BOOK SERIES THAT LOOKS TO CLOSE THE GENERATIONAL GAP BETWEEN YOUNG READERS AND THEIR GRANDMAS.

THE SERIES IS CALLED "THE ADVENTURES OF GRANDMA MCBEE".

AND THE LATEST"INSTALLMEN" IN THE SERIES IS TITLED, "GRANDMA MCBEE-HOW SLOW CAN SHE BE?"

THE AUTHORS OF THE SERIES ARE JUDY DANKO BASHAM AND JACQUIE KENNEDY DUDO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

JUDY, I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

WHO IS GRANDMA MCBEE?

>> SHE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY MOM THAT PASSED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND HER GRANDMOTHER.

>> MY GRANDMOTHER, SHE LIVES ON A FARM IN IOWA.

SHE IS 98 YEARS OLD AND STILL LIVING ON HER OWN AND DOING THE THINGS THROUGHOUT HER DAY.

>> AND IN THE BOX, GRANDMA MCBEE GETS UP, SHE MOVES AROUND, SHE ALWAYS HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE.

>> ABSOLUTELY, 100%.

>> WHEN YOU'RE WRITING FOR YOUNGER READERS, THAT'S BIG, ISN'T IT?

BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DRAWING, A LOT OF ILLUSTRATION IN HERE.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE CHILDREN HAVE REALLY BEEN INSPIRED BY GRANDMA MCBEE, THEY'VE SHOWN A LOT OF KINDNESS AND EMPATHY AND HAVE JUST LOVED HER AND INFATUATED BY HER.

>> AND THE IDEA IS SHE MAY USE A WALKER HERE BUT GOES WHEREVER SHE WANTS TO GO.

>> YES, EXACTLY.

SO WITH THE SERIES, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SEE HER PROGRESS IN HER AGING.

RIGHT NOW SHE'S USING A WALKER, BUT EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE HER GET INTO A FENDER BENDER IN A COUPLE OF BOOKS AND THEN SHE DECIDES TO GIVE UP HER KEYS SO SHE'S NO LONGER DRIVING AND KIND OF SEEING THAT JOURNEY.

>> WHAT KIND OF CAR IS SHE DRIVING RIGHT NOW?

>> IT'S A RED VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE.

>> IT'S CHERRY RED, ISN'T.

>> CHERRY RED VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE.

>> AND HER ADVENTURES KIND OF EVERY DAY ADVENTURES, GOING TO THE HAIR SALON.

>> GOING TO THE HAIR SALON, THE DOCTOR.

THE NECK BOOK IS GRANDMA MCBEE COMES TO VISIT ME AND PLACE TO THROUGH THE SKY.

>> WE KNOW WHO SHE WAS INSPIRED BY, BUT WHAT INSPIRED YOU GUYS TO WRITE THIS SERIES?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

WHEN MY MOM PASSED AWAY, I HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK AT A RETIREMENT CENTER, AND THEY TAUGHT ME THE IMPORTANCE OF LIFE, AND TO EMBRACE LIFE IN EVERY -- EVERY DAY.

AND SO I DECIDED TO WRITE THIS BOOK, AND I ASKED MY BEST FRIEND JACKIE, WILL YOU WRITE THIS BOOK WITH ME, AND WE REALIZED THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CHILDREN'S BOOKS THAT TALK ABOUT OUR AGING POPULATION.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE BRIGHT TEACH ABOUT KINDNESS AND EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING FOR OUR GROWING POPULATION FOR OUR SENIORS.

>> WAS IT DIFFICULT TO WRITE A CHILDREN'S BOOK?

>> YOU KNOW, IT HAD ITS STRUGGLES.

BUT FOR US, WE WORK WITH CHILDREN EVERY DAY, WE TEACH EARLY CHILDHOOD CLASSES, WE WORK WITH OUR -- I WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, JUDY WORKS WITH THE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALL ENGAGING WITH CHILDREN, AND SO FOR US IT WAS A LOT OF, OKAY, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT CHILDREN AND APPLYING OUR KNOWLEDGE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD?

>> AS FAR AS THE ILLUSTRATIONS ARE CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY WITH KIDS BOOKS, VERY IMPORTANT.

>> VERY IMPORTANT.

YES.

JACKIE, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT OUR ILLUSTRATOR.

>> OH, YOU GOT A NEW ILLUSTRATOR.

>> WITH THE FIRST BOOK WE WENT WITH AN ILLUSTRATOR THROUGH OUR PUBLISHER, AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING PROCESS FOR US.

IT WAS A LOT ABOUT THE DETAILS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT CHILDREN, THIS HE ZONE IN ON THOSE PICTURES, AND THE PICTURES TELL THE WHOLE STORY.

SO WE JUST FELT LIKE THERE WERE SOME INCONSISTENCIES SO WE STARTED HUNTING AROUND FOR A NEW ILLUSTRATOR, AND WE FOUND A NEW ILLUSTRATOR, JASON, WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING ALL OF THE ILLUSTRATIONS FOR OUR SECOND BOOK.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO MERGE HIS DESIGN WITH OUR VISION.

>> AND AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WAY -- THIS SOUNDS LIKE PERFECT BEDTIME READING.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THIS WOULD BE PERFECT.

BUT A WAY TO TEACH KIDS EMPATHY, UNDERSTANDING, THE WHOLE BIT.

>> AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S NOT JUST NECESSARILY TEACHING EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING FOR OUR SENIOR POPULATION BUT REALLY TO BRING IN KINDNESS FOR ALL.

THAT'S JUST THE POINT OF TEACHING.

WE'RE MOLDING THE NEXT GENERATION.

AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO JACKIE AND I.

WE READ CHILDREN'S BOOKS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND WE REALIZE THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BOOKS TO TEACH ABOUT OUR ELDERS AND OUR GROWING POPULATION.

>> HOW DO YOU DO THAT, THOUGH, WITHOUT -- HOW DO YOU TEACH WITHOUT TEACHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

BECAUSE KIDS, THEY'RE PRETTY WISE.

THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE BEING FORCED TO LEARN SOMETHING.

>> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THOSE GENUINE EXPERIENCES, YOU KNOW, HAVING THOSE OPEN CONVERSATIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE INCLUDE IN OUR BOOK ARE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AT THE BACK THAT GET PARENTS TALKING WITH THEIR CHILDREN, BECAUSE IT GOES MUCH, MUCH MORE BE BEYOND JUST WHAT'S WRITTEN ON THE PAGES.

>> WHAT KIND OF REACTION HAVE YOU HAD SO FAR TO GRANDMA MCBEE?

>> THE CHILDREN ABSOLUTELY LOVE HER.

>> I DRESS UP AS HER AND I GO OUT AND I DRESS UP IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I HAVE DONE SEVERAL EVENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF KINDNESS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I SAY?

THE THE BEST GIFT IS FREE, AND THAT SHOWS KIND INNOCENCE OUR HEARTS.

>> REACTION FROM THE KIDS OBVIOUSLY, WHAT ABOUT MOMS AND DADS?

>> YOU KNOW, THE PARENTS REALLY GRAVITATE TOWARDS IT.

I'VE NOTICED A LOT OF PARENTS WHO THEY SAY, -- MY GOSH, THIS IS EVEN A GREAT MESSAGE FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN TO LEARN.

EVEN GRANDPARENTS ARE SEEING IT AND SAYING, WOW, I NEED BUY A COPY THIS BOOK SO I CAN SHARE IT WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN, AND I THINK THAT'S WHO GIVES THEM A LEGACY OF SOMETHING THEY'RE LEAVING BEHIND THAT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.

>> AND ALSO TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, IT INSPIRES OUR AGING POPULATION THAT THEY CAN STILL DO SO MUCH.

GRANDMAS MCBEE, HER KNEES WEAK AS SHE CROSS ITS THE STREET AND MIGHT BE A LITTLE FORGETFUL BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER OUR AGE.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP ON GOING.

>> WHAT'S NEXT FOR GRANDMA MCBEE?

>> SHE'S GOING TO FLY THROUGH THE SKY AND VISIT HER GRANDCHILD AND THEN EVENTUALLY SHE'S GOING TO GET INTO A FENDER BENDER AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT PROGRESSION OF TEACHING TO HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND.

IT STARTS OUT MOVING A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT EVENTUALLY IT IS GOING TO TAKE A TOLL, BUT THEY CAN STILL DO THINGS AND THEY CAN STILL BE A PART OF THOSE MEMORABLE MOMENTS.

>> AND WE HAVE BEEN SEVEN BOOKS WRITTEN.

>> OH, MY GOODNESS, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THEM WRITTEN?

>> YES.

WE DO.

>> IT'S BEEN A FOUR-YEAR-LONG PROCESS, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD IT.

WE HAD OUR GRANDMA MCBEE DOLL PATENT, SO SHE'S ALWAYS READY TO GO.

>> AND ALWAYS HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE AS YOU BOTH SHOULD AND DO.

CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S GREAT STUFF.

AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.

>> AND WE WANT TO SAY THAT GRANDMA MCBEE SAYS LIFE'S AN ADVENTURE, TAKE IT SLOW.

>> TAKE IT SLOW.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> AND THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.