>> EARLY VOTING FOR CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES STARTS NEXT WEEK.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A VOTERS' GUIDE - NEXT ON IVORY TOWER.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M BARBARA FOUGHT FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.

JOINING ME TONIGHT ON THE PANEL ARE: ANIRBAN ACHARYA, FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE NINA MOORE, FROM COLGATE UNIVERSITY CHAD SPARBER, ALSO FROM COLGATE, AND AND BEN BAUGHMAN, FROM GANNON UNIVERSITY.

IT'S NEARLY TIME TO VOTE AGAIN - IN OUR SECOND SUMMER PRIMARY.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT TOOK SO LONG TO DRAW THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LINES.

EARLY VOTING STARTS NEXT WEEK SATURDAY, THE 13TH.

I'VE ASKED EACH PANELIST TO BRIEF US ON THE FOUR DISTRICTS IN OUR VIEWERSHIP.

CHAD, START US OFF WITH THE NEW 22ND DISTRICT.

IT COVERS METRO SYRACUSE SPREADING OVER TO ONEIDA COUNTY.

IT'S IN THE DARKER BLUE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP.

THAT SEAT IS UP FOR GRABS WITH JOHN KATKO RETIRING.

>> WITH KATKO RETIRING AND CLAUDIA TENNEY MOVING, IT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING BECAUSE NOT JUST TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED SEAT BUT CONSIDERED TO BE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

I'M NATURALLY THINKING MORE ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE PRIMARY WHERE I THINK STEVE WELLS SEEMS TO BE RUNNING TO WIN A GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN FOR KATKO'S OLD SEAT, WHEREAS BRANDON WILLIAMS SEEMS TO BE RUNNING TO WIN A PREMIER PRIMARY FOR TENNEY'S OLD UTICA SEAT UNDERMINING HIS CHANCES IN NOVEMBER A BIT.

>> HOW ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS.

NINA, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE?

THE FOUR DIFFERENT CANDIDATES?

>> IN THE 22nd OR THE 24th?

>> THE NEW 22nd HERE IN METRO SYRACUSE.

>> YEAH, OKAY.

SO THERE IS JUST STEVE HOLDEN WHO IS RUNNING SO MY PRIMARY FOCUS-- >> THAT'S THE 24th.

THE 22nd, THE ONE CHAD IS TALKING ABOUT.

FRANCIS, SAM ROBERTS, AND CHOLE.

>> MY THOUGHTS THERE ARE HOW ARE WE DETERMINING WHO SHOULD BE THE LEAD CANDIDATES BECAUSE I LOOK AT HOW IS HIS LAST NAME PRONOUNCED.

>> MAJOKE.

>> HE HAS A PAST OF LOST BOY WHO WAS IN THE SYRACUSE CITY COUNCIL BUT I'M STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT SAM ROBERTS WHO HAS QUITE A BIT MORE BACKGROUND AS STATE LEGISLATOR, BUT ALSO HAVING BEEN TAPPED BY GOVERNOR CUOMO FOR, I FORGET WHAT HIS ADMINISTRATIVE POST WAS.

SO I THINK HERE WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE QUESTION OF PAST EXPERIENCE FIGURE MUCH MORE LARGELY THAN PERHAPS THAN IN THE PAST.

>> AND HE SEEMS TO BE THE PERSON THAT THE PARTY IS BEHIND.

>> CHOSEN BY THE PARTY BUT NOT WITHOUT THE DEEP ROOTS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT MAJOK DOESN'T HAVE DEEP ROOTS BUT COMPARED TO SAM ROBERTS, JUST WONDER WHAT ARE THE DETERMINANTS OF HOW PARTIES GO ABOUT CHOOSING.

AND THEN LITTLE HOW DONORS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO SOMEONE WHO CERTAINLY HAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE, AS WE SAID WITH MAJOK, BUT WHAT IS THE HEFT, RIGHT?

THE LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE THAT IS BEING BROUGHT.

>> I THINK HE HAS THE MONEY AND ENDORSEMENT BUT VISITED DANA BALTER IN A PREVIOUS PRIMARY.

THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE IS NOT AS INTERESTING AS THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WHICH I THINK IS, IT GETS TO THE THRUSMINESS OF THE CANDIDATES.

ON ONE SIDE BRANDON WILLIAMS WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, HE FILED TO RUN AGAINST KATKO VERY EARLY.

HE HAS A CONSERVATIVE PARTY ENDORSEMENT.

HE OPENLY EMBRACES TRUMP EXCEPT CRITICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE 2020 ELECTION WHERE HE SAYS THE RULES WERE FOLLOW AND JIB IS OUR BIDEN IS OUR PRESIDENT.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, LEE WORKED FOR KATKO, DONATED TO ROME ANY BUT NOT TRUMP.

THE CRITICISMS AGAINST HIM IS THAT HE IS DECLINED DEBATE INVITATIONS AND IS DODGING TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUMP AND SO THAT'S LED THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ONONDAGA COUNTY CONSERVATIVE PARTY TO SAY I SEE HIM AS KATKO 2.0, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS MEANT.

>> ANIRBAN, THE CORTLAND COUNTY VIEWERS USED TO BE WITH THOSE OF US IN SYRACUSE BUT NOW THEY ARE IN A DISTRICT THE 19th, WHICH GOES ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO THE PENNSYLVANIA LINE.

WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE?

>> SO THE 19th IS TOUTED AS ONE OF THOSE BELLWEATHER DISTRICTS WHERE IT KIND OF PREDICTS THE POWER OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED SO THERE IS A SPECIAL ELECTION ON AUGUST 23.

AND THAT WILL BE HELD WITH THE OLDER NEW YORK 19 AND THAT'S PAT VERSUS MOLINARO AND ON THAT DAY ALSO, HE WILL APPEAR ON ANOTHER BALLOT, WHICH IS FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

SO THERE IS A PRIMARY GOING ON WITH THE NEW DISTRICT IN Y-19 BETWEEN JAMIE CHENEY AND JOSH RILEY AND WHOEVER WINS THAT PRIMARY WOULD BE FACING MARK MOLINARO IN THE NEW DISTRICT.

NOW THE DISTRICT VOTED TWICE FOR OBAMA, THE OLDER ONE, VOTED ONCE FOR TRUMP AND ONCE FOR BIDEN AND AFTER THE REDISTRICTING, IT'S A SLIGHT 1 PERCENTAGE POINT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

THE IDEA IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND SO ON, THE DEMOCRATS MIGHT BE HOPING THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENERGIZE THEIR CROWD TO COME TO THE POLLING MORE THAN THE REPUBLICANS WILL COME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SO THAT MIGHT HELP THEM OUT BUT IT'S A TOSS-UP RACE, A WELL WATCHED RACE AND WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> MOLINARO HAS LITTLE OPPOSITION, I THINK.

>> HE HAS NO OPPOSITION.

>> BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT RILEY AND CHENEY ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE WHICH SHOULD BE QUITE COMPETITIVE.

>> BOTH HAVE BEEN RAISING EQUAL NUMBER OF MONEY.

I JUST READ ON TOTAL ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS HAVE BEEN RAISED I LOOKED AT THEIR POLICY POSITIONS, BOTH SEEM TO BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, JAMIE CHENEY HAS PARTICULAR ANGLE ON ABORTION AND ABORTION ACCESS AND THAT, I THINK, SHE WILL BE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE.

BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY CLOSE PRIMARY RACE, TOO.

SO JUST TO SUM UP, WHOEVER WINS THE SPECIAL ELECTION WILL SERVE FOR FOUR MORE MONTHS.

>> TO FINISH DELGADO'S TERM.

>> AND THEN THE NEW ELECTION BETWEEN MOLINARO OR WHOEVER COMES OUT FROM CHENEY AND RILEY.

BUT BOTH SEEMS TO BE SIMILAR CANDIDATES WITH VERY MINOR DIFFERENCES.

SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S A COMPLETE TOSS HF UP.

>> CORTLAND COUNTY AND SOUTHERN VIEWERS, IT IS CONFUSING WHEN YOU HAVE TO VOTE TWICE.

LET'S MOVE BACK TO THE NEW 24th.

>> I'M STILL CATCHING UP ON LIKE THE SHIFTS BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE I WAS HERE FOR THE LAST REDISTRICTING.

SO THE 24TH.

>> THAT'S THE SALMON COLOR ON THE MAP FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY ALONG THE LAKE ALL THE WAY AROUND, SKIPS ROCHESTER AND GOES TO BUFFALO.

A HUGE SHAPED DISTRICT THAT INTERESTING ENOUGH HAS LEFT OUT THE MOHAWK VALLEY AND MOVED AROUND SYRACUSE AND ROCHESTER.

AND SO IT'S A MUCH MORE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.

AND I WILL SAY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THINKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT ONE, THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY HERE.

STEVE HOLDEN HERE IS RUNNING UNOPPOSED, NOT REALLY RUNNING AT ALL.

BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HE IS TAGGED WITH THE LABEL OF BEING A CARPET BAGGER BECAUSE MOST OF HIS LIFE WAS SPENT IN OKLAHOMA AND HIS BONA FIDES, IF YOU WILL, IS HIM HAVING GRADUATED, GETTING A GRADUATE DEGREE ACTUALLY FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY IN 2017.

SO MOVING TO THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

CLAUDIA TENNEY INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH WAS PRIMARIED BY TWO OPPONENTS, ONE OF WHOM WE COULD SAY IS A PERENNIAL CAMPAIGNER BECAUSE HE RAN AGAINST HER IN 2016 AND AGAIN IN 2020 AND SHE DEFEATED HIM HANDILY.

BUT IT'S THIS NEW CANDIDATE, HIS NAME IS MARIO FRETTO THAT QUITE FRANKLY IS A LITTLE SCARY IN THE SENSE THAT CLAUDIA TENNEY'S COMING IN AS THE INCUMBENT.

SHE HAS THAT ADVANTAGE.

SHE HAS A LITTLE UNDER $2 MILLION IN A CAMPAIGN CHEST.

SHE IS BACKED BY TRUMP AND ALSO STEFANIK AND VARIOUS OTHER REPUBLICAN CHAIRS.

AND SHE HAS SORT OF EMERGED AS THE SORT OF LEADER IN THE HOUSE HAVING CREATED SOMETHING CALLED THE ELECTION INTEGRITY CAUCUS OR SOMETHING, WITH FULLY 60 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE FOLLOWING HER NOW.

BUT HER OPPONENT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THE FACT THAT THIS ISN'T A NATIONAL ELECTION.

WHEN YOU HAVE BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU CAN'T RUN AND THINK LIKE CRITICAL RACE THEORY, WHICH HE IS IN TWO OF THE WHITEST REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS OF THE SIX REPUBLICAN LEANING DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN CARVE BELIEVE-- THAT HAVE BEEN CARVED OUT.

MY GUESS IS THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF TEACHERS TEACHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND THE OTHER THING IS LAW AND ORDER WHICH IS BIG FOR HIM AND I DON'T GET THE SENSE THAT ALL OF THE NEW COUNTIES ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH VIOLENT CRIME.

HERE IS WHAT IS FASCINATING FOR ME.

TENNEY IS EMERGING-- I DON'T WANT TO CALL HER A MODERATE, GOD MOTHER BID SHE SHOULD BE CALLED A MODERATE BOUGHT SHE IS RUNNING ON ISSUES THAT MATTER TO THE DISTRICT.

AT THE TOP OF HER LIST ARE JOBS AND THE ECONOMY BUT SHE IS ALSO DOING THE CLASSIC REPUBLICAN THING OF BASHING CHINESE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ISSUES.

BUT BECAUSE SHE IS A MARINE MOM, ALSO PUSHING FOR VETERANS.

SHE IS THEN SOMEWHAT NOT WHAT YOU WOULD IX PECT FOR REPUBLICANS, PUSHING HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION.

BOTTOM LINE IS SHE IS SPEAKING TO PEOPLE'S ISSUES EVEN THOUGH HER OPPONENT THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT SAID HE IS ELEVATING PEOPLE OVER PARTY.

>> BEN, TELL US ABOUT THE 21st DISTRICT.

THAT'S THE NORTH COUNTRY UP AND OVER DOWN ACTUALLY TO SARATOGA.

DOES ELISE STEFANIK HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP?

THIS IS THE BIG DISTRICT IN YELLOW.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I EXPECT TO SEE A RED WAVE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE.

BUT IT IS INTERESTING THAT IT IS WHAT ANIRBAN HAD SAID IN THE PAST THEY HAD VOTED FOR OBAMA BOTH TIMES, THE POPULATION DID AND IT DID GET REDISTRICTED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT OVERALL, THEY HAVE VOTED REPUBLICAN.

TRUMP THE LAST TWO TIMES AND THE LAST TIME, IN 2020, THIS IS HER FOURTH TERM, SHE HAD A LITTLE OVER 40,000 MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP AND VOTE FOR HER.

NOW THAT WAS 2020.

AND THEY WERE VOTING FOR TRUMP AND OTHERS.

BUT I DO EXPECT MAT CASTIELLA TO DO WELL IN THE PRIMARY.

>> THERE ARE TWO MATS RUNNING.

>> I THINK MATT, INSTEAD OF MATTHEW IS GOING TO DO BETTER.

I THINK HE IS MORE MODERATE.

I THINK HE WILL DO BETTER IN THAT DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THAT.

>> OKAY.

WELL, LET'S MOVE TO OUR SECOND TOPIC.

THERE IS A NEW VIRUS TO CONTEND WITH.

MONKEYPOX.

IT'S RELATED TO SMALL POX BUT MUCH LESS CONTAGIOUS.

THE OUTBREAK IN THE U.S. IS HIGH IN THE MALE GAY COMMUNITY IN AND NEW YORK SEEMS TO BE THE EPICENTER.

SOME ARE SAYING THE RESPONSE TO MONKEYPOX IS KIND OF LIKE THAT SLOW RESPONSE TO AIDS.

SO NINA, I'M WONDERING ARE HEALTH OFFICIALS AND POLITICIANS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY ENOUGH?

>> I THINK THAT THEY ARE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY ENOUGH.

PERHAPS AT THE STATE LEVEL MORE SO THAN THE NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE AFTER ALL, BIDEN DOES HAVE HIS HANDS FULL WITH QUITE A FEW THINGS AND SO HE HAS YET TO DECLARE A PUBLIC EMERGENCY.

I WOULD SAY BEYOND THAT, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FAIL TO PURSUE MEASURED CALIBRATED APPROACH THAT IS FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE VERY CAREFULLY.

AND SO I'M THINKING HERE, WHEN BIDEN DID COME OUT AND SAY THAT IF YOU GET THE VACCINE, THEN YOU DON'T ARE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING COVID, THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE AND HARKENING BACK TO THE AIDS CRISIS WHEN WE WERE ALL INITIALLY ASSURED THAT TOM WAY IT COULD BE TRANSMITTED WAS THROUGH SEXUAL CONTACT.

AND THEN SOME OF US ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER KIMBERLY BERGALIS WHO CONTRACTED AIDS FROM HER DENTIST.

SO FOLLOW THE SCIENCE IS WHAT I THINK HAS TO BE DONE.

BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE INTERESTING HAPPENING, AGAIN FOLLOWING WHAT HAPPENED WITH AIDS AND I'M SEEING IDENTITY POLITICS CREEP IN HERE.

THE ILLINOIS GOVERNOR WHO DECLARED AN EMERGENCY FOR ILLINOIS SAID THAT HE WANTS TO ASSEMBLE ALL OF THE RESOURCES TO REASSURE THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORT.

WELL, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WILL BE REVEALED THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH BEING PART OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

AND HERE AGAIN, I'M HARKENING BACK TO THE MISTAKE WE MADE WITH AIDS AND WITH THE RESULT BEING THAT NOW H.I.V.

INFECTION IS GREATEST AMONG BLACK WOMEN.

I'LL MAKE ONE FINAL POINT, WHICH IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, THE DATA SHOW THAT THERE ARE FIVE STATES THAT TOP THE MONKEYPOX INFECTION RATE.

THREE OF THEM NEW YORK, ILLINOIS AND WHAT IS THE OTHER STATE?

CALIFORNIA, HAVE DECLARED AN EMERGENCY, BUT THE OTHER TWO AT THE TOP ARE FLORIDA AND TEXAS AND THEY HAVE YET TO DO SO.

>> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME IDENTITY POLITICS YOU SAID.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE BEEN EMBARRASSING SLOW IN TESTING AND VACCINATION ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF COVID BUT I WANT TO READ A QUOTE FROM THE ECONOMIST THAT SAYS ABOUT 99% OF CASES IN AMERICA HAVE BEEN AMONG GAY AND BUY SEXUAL MEN, A PATTERN IN OTHER COUNTRIES LINKING TO SEX WITH MULTIPLE PARTNERS.

THIS SUGGEST TO ME ONE OF TWO THINGS.

MAYBE THE ECONOMIST IS WOEFULLY AND DANGEROUSLY INACCURATE AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, SHAME ON THEM AND I'M SORRY FOR REPEATING THEIR QUOTE.

THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THAT THE AMERICAN MEDIA AND MEDICAL AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE CDC, HAVE BEEN LESS THAN HONEST ABOUT THE NEAR EXCLUSIVITY OF CONCENTRATION OF THIS DISEASE IN ONE COMMUNITY.

AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE LESSONS WE GOT FROM THE AIDS EPIDEMIC IS THAT A DISEASE CONCENTRATED IN THE GAY COMMUNITY CAN FUEL HOMOPHOBIA WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY OF GOOD CONSCIOUS WANTS TO SEE.

BUT THAT KIND OF SILENCE ALSO HAS COSTS, INCLUDING AN UNDER EMPHASIS ON SIMPLE WAYS TO PREVENT THE DISEASE SPREAD INCLUDING MONOGAMY AND OTHER SAFE SEX PRACTICES.

AND ALSO THE VACCINE ISSUE, CONCENTRATING THE VACCINES IN THE COMMUNITIES WHO NEED IT MOST OPPOSED TO SAYING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET A VACCINE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

>> ANIRBAN, I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS ENOUGH MENTAL AND PHYSICAL ENERGY TO FIGHT YET ANOTHER VIRUS.

>> YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

LIKE LOOK, IN THE LAST 20 YEARS WE HAD SARS, MARS AND EBOLA, COVID AND NOW MONKEYPOX.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO END.

AS WE HAVE THE SPACE BETWEEN HUMAN EXISTENCE AND WILDERNESS IS REDUCED, WE WILL HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THIS IF HISTORY SAYS ANYTHING.

BUT I WANT TO RESPOND TO BOTH OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE THREE MAIN WAYS THAT SCIENTISTS ARE SAYING.

ONE IS DIRECT CONTACT WITH AN INFECTED PERSON'S RASH.

BY TOUCHING CONTAMINATED OBJECTS AND FABRICS OR RESPIRATORY DROPLETS PRODUCED WHEN AN INFECTED PERSON COUGHS OR SNEEZES.

REPORTING TO THE NEW YORK TIMES.

>> THAT'S RARE THROUGH THE AIR.

>> IF YOU ARE SITTING IN A BUS AND SO ON, IT IS LOW RISK BUT CONTAMINATION WITH, YOU KNOW, INFECTED OBJECTS LIKE SHEETS, TOWELS, THAT HAS MEDIUM TO HIGH RISK REPERCUSSION.

NOW REGARDING THE VACCINE.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WE HAVE 300,000 VACCINES ORDERED IN DENMARK WAITING TO BE PUT IN VIALS.

WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION SAID WE WANT THE VACCINE, THE COMPANY SAID WE CAN'T BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ORDERED AND SO WE ARE WAITING IN LINE TO GET THE ORDERS AND SO ON.

BUT I WANT TO ADD THOUGH THAT, WHICH OUR VIEWERS MIGHT NOT KNOW, THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS HAVE SPENT $1 BILLION FOR DEVELOPING THIS VACCINE.

SO THIS VACCINE IS MADE BY AMERICAN TAXPAYERS MONEY.

AND YET, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY OR THE OTHER, WE HAVE TO STAND IN LUN TO GET TO LINE TO GET TO THE VACCINE.

WE HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT IT.

AND THERE WERE TWO MILLION DOSES FROM BEFORE AND THEY HAVE EXPIRED SO A MIXTURE OF INCOMPETENCE AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME SUPPLY CHAIN AND OTHER ISSUES.

>> BEN, QUICKLY.

>> VERY QUICKLY, THE DATA IS EXTREMELY MUDDY.

THE CDC DOESN'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO IT.

AND IT'S ONLY WHAT IS COMING REPORTED TO THE EYES OF THE CDC ANTER R AND TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA.

IT'S MUDDY.

OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE HIGHER POPULATION AREAS THAT WE KNOW.

THE OTHER THING I KNOW, I BELIEVE BIDEN LAST EVENING DID DECLARE A PUBLIC EMERGENCY.

THAT JUST HAPPENED LATE YESTERDAY.

>> OKAY, THIS WEEK WE LEARNED THAT EVEN MORE PHONE AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM JANUARY 6 ARE MISSING I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE TRANSFER FROM ONE ADMINISTRATION TO ANOTHER --- PEOPLE GIVE BACK THEIR GOVERNMENT PHONES.

BUT IT SEEMS SOME OF THOSE RECORDS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT, BY LAW.

ANIRBAN, HOW CONCERNING IS IT >> TO ME IT IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING IN TWO WAYS.

LET'S TAKE THE NORMAL WAY.

THE NORMAL WAY IS WHAT THE SECRET SERVICE IS SAYING, WE HAD A SYSTEM WIDE UPDATE AND EVERYONE'S DATA GOT LOST.

WHAT KIND OF UPDATES ARE WE DOING?

IN ANY COMPANY IN ANY UPDATE, YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO ROLE BACK OR WHOEVER UPDATES ANYTHING WITHOUT ACTUALLY SAVING THE SYSTEM?

WITHOUT DOING A PARTICULAR BACKUP?

SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T FLY.

LIKE THAT IS EXTREMELY INCOMPETENT, RIGHT?

SO THAT LOOKS BAD.

THE OTHER PART IS NO, THEY'RE NOT INCOMPETENT.

THEY'RE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.

AND I THINK THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD POINT TO BE MADE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THAT HOW DID ALL YOUR TEXT MESSAGES VANISH EXCEPT ONE MESSAGE THAT APPARENTLY REMAINED WHERE SOMEONE IS ASKING FOR HELP FOR POLICE.

SO IT'S VERY FISHY.

>> I'M ACTUALLY IN LINE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WHOA!

>> I DO THINK THAT THE ONE TEXT IS EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO THE NARRATIVE THAT ALL THE TEXTS GOT WIPED BUT YOU HAVE ONE.

THIS GOES RIGHT INTO TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT TRUST.

IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE TRUST OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PROTECTED BY THE SECRET SERVICE.

THIS IS EXTREMELY HARMFUL TO THE SECRET SERVICE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS A LEADER FROM THE OUTSIDE NEEDS TO COME IN.

>> 30 SECONDS, NINA.

>> I'M STRAGGLING THE FENCE ON THIS BECAUSE FIRST IT WAS JUST THE SECRET SERVICE AND NOW IT'S THE PENTAGON AND THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND TO SOME EXTENT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

HAVING SAID THAT, I'M NOT ON THE SAME SIDE AS YOU GUYS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T THINK AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP THINKING WHERE ARE THOSE DAMN TEXTS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION BEFORE WE KNOW WHO TO VOTE FOR.

>> CHAD.

>> ALL THE RECORD NEED TO BE PRESERVED AND THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION TO DECIDE HOW THEY'RE DESTROYED.

SO MY QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.

HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN STANDARD PRACTICE FOR THE DoD TO WIPE THE PHONES OF DEPARTING EMPLOYEES AND DID NATIONAL ARCHIVIST DAVID FER REMEMBER AWHO SERVED THREE DIFFERENT PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS DID HE KNOW AND APPROVE THIS POLICY.

>> WELL, IT'S A CONUNDRUM TO ME AND IT'S TIME NOW FOR As AND FS.

YOUR F ANIRBAN.

>> TO THE HUNGARIAN PRIME MINISTER WHO TOOK A PAGE STRAIGHT OUT OF THE NAZI TEXT TO SAY WE ARE NOT A MIXED RACE AND WE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A MIXED RACE.

LEE ADDED THAT COUNTRIES WHERE EUROPEAN AND NON-EUROPEANS MINGLE WERE NO LONGER NATIONS.

ALTHOUGH THE EUROPEAN LEADERS LIKE THE ROMANIAN LEADER OF PARLIAMENT CRITICIZED MY HOME COUNTRY THE U.S. WHERE MY SO CALLED MIXED RACE DAUGHTER IS GROWING UP, SHE IS BEING WELCOME BY CONSERVATIVE TO TALK AT THE GATHERING.

I'M ASHAMED FOR THEIR BEHALF.

>> NINA.

>> THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE HAS UP COVERED DEADLY MISTAKES IN THE ORGAN TRANSPLANT SYSTEM FROM FAILURE TO SCREEN ORGANS FOR DISEASE TO LOSING ORGANS TO ACCIDENTALLY THROWING THEM IN THE CRASH.

THE RESULT IS 70 PREVENTIBLE DEATHS AND 249 SERIOUS COMPLICATIONS.

THESE ARE A TINY FRACTION.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE OF THE 175,000 TRANSPLANTS FOR THE SAME PERIOD, BUT THE SUCCESS TEM THAT OVERSEES THESE TRANSPLANTS HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB BECAUSE LIVES DEPEND ON THEM.

>> CHAD.

>> MY F TO CONTINUED DEMOCRATIC PARTY DISARRAY.

WE COULD SPEND AN ENTIRE SEGMENT DEBATING RATHER NANCY PELOSI SHOULD HAVE GONE TO TAIWAN BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT BIDEN DID NOT WANT HER TO GO.

THAT'S A SIGN THAT THE PARTY IN-FIGHTING AND ALSO ANOTHER FOREIGN POLICY BLUNDER, TWO THINGS THIS WEEK ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT NEED.

>> BEN, YOUR F. >> MY F IS GOING TO GO TO A PERSON THAT ENDED UP BLOWING UP A GEORGIA MONUMENT LAST MONTH.

NOW IT'S BELIEVED THAT THIS IS PROBABLY FROM SOME CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS.

THEY HAVE HAD PRIOR VANDALISM OF THIS PROPERTY SO THEY SET UP VIDEO CAMERAS.

SO MY F GOES TO THE FACT THAT THEY DID NOT SET UP VIDEO CAMERAS WELL ENOUGH TO CAPTURE THE SUSPECT.

IT LOOKS LIKE FLASH RUNNING UP AND BLOWING IT UP AND RUNNING BACK.

THAT'S WHAT THEY RELEASED AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T CAUGHT THE PERSON.

>> SOMEBODY HAS DONE SOMETHING WELLS.

AS.

>> MY A GOES TO SERIES OF MEMES TITLED RUN, HOLLY RUN.

ON JANUARY 6, AFTER RILING UP THE DOMENT TERRORISTS WHO GATHERED TO MURDER THE LAWMAKERS IN D.C., JOSH HAWLEY WAS SCAMPERING AWAY IN FEAR.

NOW THE MEMES HAVE COME OUT SETTING HIS RUNNING TO TUNE.

MY FAVORITE SO FAR IS THE ONE SET TO BORN TO RUN BY BOSS BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

RUN HAWLEY, RUN.

YOU WILL SEE IT.

IT'S FUN AGREE HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY $5,000 FOR THE TICKETS TO HIM.

>> ELENA WICKER LIKE MOST TEENAGERS ENJOYS MOVIES, SOCCER, BAKING AND HANGING OUT WITH FRIENDS.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS IS A 13-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS JUST ADMITTED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA'S MEDICAL SCHOOL AS PART OF ITS EARLY ADMISSIONS PROGRAM, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

BUT WAIT.

THAT'S NOT ALL.

SHE IS ALSO ENROLLED AT TWO DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES PURSUING TWO DIFFERENT UNDERGRADUATE DEGREES AND THE BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES AND THAT'S STILL NOT ALL.

SHE IS ALSO RUNNING HER OWN NOT-FOR-PROFIT TO ENCOURAGE OTHER GIRLS OF COLOR TO PURSUE CAREERS IN THE STEMS.

>> AND CHAD, QUICKLY.

>> WATCHING THE STATE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE HER REMEMBER ABUTLER AND NEWHOUSE BOTH VOTED TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP AND BOTH WON THEIR PRIMARIES THIS WEEK.

WHY?

BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT WASHINGTON USES A TOP TWO PARTY SYSTEM IN WHEN ALL CANDIDATES ARE LISTED ON THE SAME BALLOT AND THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL AFFILIATION ADVANCE TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

>> AND BEN.

>> MY A IS GOING TO Dr. LOUIS, HER WORK BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN MUSIC AND MEMORY HAS BEEN EXRORD.

EXTRAORDINARY.

I LISTENED TO THE BEATLES COMING IN TODAY.

WHAT SHE IS FINDING IN HER STUDIES IS THE AUDITOR SYSTEM ANDLEY WARD SYSTEM IN MEMORY WORK TOGETHER WHEN USING MUSIC.

>> I'LL HAVE TO CHECK THAT OUT.

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