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NJ Schools After COVID, Impact of the SPEAK Out Act
12/10/2022 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Sen. Ruiz & Sean Spiller discuss NJ schools, Briana Vannozzi discusses the SPEAK Out Act.
On Chat Box, David Cruz talks with Sen. Teresa Ruiz (D) & NJEA President Sean Spiller about issues facing NJ schools including learning loss and teacher shortages. NJ Spotlight News Anchor Briana Vannozzi discusses her interview with Julie Roginsky, advocate for the SPEAK Out Act, which prohibits workplace non-disclosure agreements where employees allege workplace sexual harassment/assault.
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Chat Box with David Cruz
NJ Schools After COVID, Impact of the SPEAK Out Act
12/10/2022 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
On Chat Box, David Cruz talks with Sen. Teresa Ruiz (D) & NJEA President Sean Spiller about issues facing NJ schools including learning loss and teacher shortages. NJ Spotlight News Anchor Briana Vannozzi discusses her interview with Julie Roginsky, advocate for the SPEAK Out Act, which prohibits workplace non-disclosure agreements where employees allege workplace sexual harassment/assault.
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♪ ♪ >>> HI, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO "CHAT BOX."
I'M DAVID CRUZ.
WHILE MOST SCHOOL KIDS ARE THINKING ABOUT WINTER BREAK, OTHERS ARE POURING OVER THE SCORES FROM STANDARDIZED TESTS, SOME OF WHICH WERE RELEASED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUT AS A JUMPING OFF POINT, DISCUSSING WHERE OUR SCHOOLS ARE.
JOINING US IS SHAWN SPILLER.
PRESIDENT OF THE NEW JERSEY EDUCATION ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S THE LARGEST TEACHER'S UNION IN THE STATE.
HE'S ALSO JUST BEEN APPOINTED TO THE GOVERNOR'S TASK FORCE ON PUBLIC SCHOOLS SHORTAGE.
HE'S THE MAYOR OF MONTCLAIRE.
AND JOAN LOUISE.
SHE HAS BEEN WORKING ON EDUCATION FOR YEARS.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR TAKING A FEW MINUTES TO BE WITH US.
THE BIG NEWS OUT OF HE HAD DUE WAGS THIS WEEK ARE THESE TEST SCORES.
LET ME START WITH THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO STAY ALL OF THIS SEGMENT ON THIS.
LET'S START WITH WHAT THESE TEST SCORES HAVE TOLD US.
SENATOR?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE BIG NEWS SO MUCH AS IT WAS THE DELIVERY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS WAITING WITH ANTICIPATION.
SO THERE WAS A DELAY ON BEHALF OF THE STATE TO OFFER PUBLICLY A STATEWIDE PICTURE.
I THINK ANYONE WHO'S BEEN FOLLOWING THIS INSTANCE SAW A REFLECTION OF WHAT'S BEEN MIRRORED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY.
WHAT WAS MOST COMPELLING TO ME IS IF YOU LOOKED AT YESTERDAY'S PRESENTATION AND YOU GO YEARS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IT'S THE CONSISTENT THING I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THE PANDEMIC COMPOUNDS IT.
STRESSORS THAT WE KNEW ALWAYS EXISTED, THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP HAS BEEN PERVASIVE PREPANDEMIC AND POST PANDEMIC AND WE HAVE TO ALL DEAL WITH IT.
AS FAR AS BEING SURPRISED WITH THE NUMBERS.
I WOULD SAY ANYONE IN THE ED SPACE WAS AWAITING THIS HORRIFIC INTEL WE WERE GOING TO GET JUST BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN SOME KIND OF PROJECTIONS FOR IT.
I SAW THE NUMBERS.
IT'S TERRIFYING AND DISAPPOINTING, BUT WITH I DO THINK WE HAVE A WAY OUT OF THIS PLACE.
>> SHAWN SPILLER, YOU AGREE THERE WASN'T ANY NEWS COMING OUT OF THAT?
>> YEAH, I REALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE SENATOR JUST SAID.
ALL EDUCATORS, EVERYONE WAS AWARE WHERE STUDENTS WERE.
TRY TO HELP THEM GROW AND LEARN.
IT'S NOT A SURPRISE.
IT'S AN EXAMPLE RESULTS COMING OUT -- IT'S NOT HELPING AN EDUCATOR WHEN STARTING IN DECEMBER WE'RE WORKING WITH THE KIDS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LEARNING AND GROWING.
THE PANDEMIC HAS SHEEN A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE PIECES WE'RE ACUTELY FOCUSED ON DURING THE PANDEMIC TO NOW.
THE FOCUS ON SOME OF THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP SERVICES, COMMUNITIES BEING RESOURCED AND OTHERS ARE NOT.
THESE PROBLEMS WERE HIGHLIGHTED DURING THE PANDEMIC, NOT NECESSARILY KOFRPD BY THE PANDEMIC.
>> SO, SENATOR, THIS JUST CONFIRMS WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE TWO YEARS OF THE PANDEMIC REALLY GAVE THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM A PUNCH IN THE GUT.
THEY FEEL THAT AS WELL, YEAH?
>> YEAH.
TWO THINGS.
HUGELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE DISAGGREGATED AS I WANTED IT TO BE.
>> IT ONLY SHOWED A SUPERFICIAL NUMBER.
>> THE PRESENTATION FOR ME WASN'T AS TRANSPARENT AS IT SHOULD.
>> YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF TESTING, NJEA IS NOT A FAN OF TESTING, IS THAT RIGHT?
>> I'LL SAY THIS, WE AREN'T INTERESTED.
WE TEST ALL THE TIME WITH OUR KIDS.
IT'S NOT AGAINST TESTING.
THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THE STATE HAS PUT THINGS OUT.
YOU'RE AN A TO SIT DOWN.
WE HAVE TO KNOW WAY EARLIER THAN THAT, RIGHT?
THE FOCUS, THE CENTERS THROW A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS OUT THERE.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THIS?
I DON'T THINK IT'S EXCEEDING TO BE COMING OUT OF A GLOBAL POOL.
EDUCATORS, PARENTS, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
FIRST AND FOREMOST I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE GOVERNOR PUTS TOGETHER THE TASK FORCE ON SHORTAGES.
STAFFING AND KIDS ARE SPEAKING TO GROUP LEARNING WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE AN EDUCATIONOR.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS HERE.
YES, EVERYONE IS FACING CHALLENGES, OF COURSE.
YES, WE ALWAYS KNOW THE IMPACT IS GREATER ON THOSE LOWER SOCIOE SOCIOECONOMICALLY.
IT'S ALWAYS BEHIND AS WELL.
THESE ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE DON'T NEED A TEST TO TELL US.
THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS TOGETHER AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE EVERYBODY IS FO FOCUSED ON THIS AT THIS TIME.
>> YOU CALLED THESE NUMBERS TERRIBLE BUT YOU ALSO SAID THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE COURAGEOUS CONVERSATIONS.
SO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS ARE.
>> SO I THINK SEAN HIGHLIGHTED WOULD HAVE SAID LET'S START DOING IT NOW AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS TWO YEARS AGO.
THE WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD TEACHER SHORTAGES.
I HAD BILLS THAT CAN SAY WHERE CAN WE ENTICE THEM.
WE KNEW THESE WERE PERVASIVE ISSUES.
THAT'S GREAT.
LET'S GET THE PIPELINE GLOWING.
MORE MONEY FOR STUDENTS TO GO TO SCHOOL.
IF THEY NEED IT, WHETHER IT'S IN SPECIAL ED, E.L.L., I THINK ANY SINGLE DISTRICT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE OFFERED A SIGNUP BONUS.
LET'S ELIMINATE THE RESIDENCY QUIET SO THAT AIRBNB IN CONNECTICUT, NEW YORK.
OBVIOUSLY GIVING FIRST CHOICE AS A NEW JERSEY PERSON.
LET'S OFFER THOSE TO A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A SCHOOL THAT'S WILLING TO DO SUMMER LEARNING?
SATURDAY A CADEMY.
EVERY SINGLE YEAR PRE-PANDEMIC HAS IMPACTED SIGNIFICANT COHORT.
WE KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND WE DO NOTHING ABOUT IT TO MANDATE TO BE SURE THAT THAT TEACHER ALSO GETS THAT IS TRAINING.
SHE GETS THAT KINDERGARTNER UP TO SPEED AND READY TO GO INTO THE FIRST GRADE.
BY THE TIME KINDERGARTEN COMES MAYBE SHE HAS TO RETEACH THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF WHAT WAS INTRODUCED IN THE KINDERGARTEN CLASS.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED LEGISLATION.
YOU NEED A SENSE OF URGENCY.
THIS HAS BEEN FACING THE STATE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY WITH THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FLOWING TO THE DISTRICT AND THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE STATE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ENOUGH.
I DON'T THINK, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH.
THE FACT WE AREN'T TREATING THIS THE WAY WE TREATED COVID, EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH HEADS OF STATE SITTING AROUND A TABLE SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE.
>> SHAWN, THAT'S A PRETTY STRONG INDICTMENT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION'S WORK ON EDUCATION OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
WOULD YOU KIND OF CONCUR WITH WHAT THE SENATOR'S ASSESSMENT IS?
>> THE SENATOR'S RIGHT IN TERMS OF THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN LONG RUNNING.
WE'VE BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING INTO IT, SANDRA'S RIGHT.
WE SEE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE LEAVING THE PROFESSOR MID CAREER.
WE SEE THESE SHORTAGES THAT ARE, AGAIN, BEING HIGHLIGHTED BY THE PANDEMIC.
REALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING IT, I DO THINK THERE WAS THAT EMERGENCY TYPE OF FEELING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT FACILITIES?
GET BACK IN THE SPACES LEARNING SAFELY.
IT WAS IMPORTANT AND STILL IS.
I THINK THE CENTER'S RIGHT, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN URGENCY.
A LOT OF OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, SOME, YES, DRIVEN BY COLLARS AND KNEES.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT IN REGULATIONS, COSTLY BARRIERS PUT UP.
THE THERE ARE THINGS THAT EDUCATORS IS BUSY WORK WHICH IS PUTTING ADDITIONAL STRESSORS DOING EXTRA CLASSES AND COVERING OTHER COLLEAGUES, PERIOD.
THERE ARE COSTS, NO COST.
STATE BOARD, D.O.E., LEGISLATORS, YES.
ALL OF US IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.
I DO 100% AGREE WE NEED A SENSE OF URGENCY.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM OF THE FUTURE, IT'S A PROBLEM NOW.
IT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE.
WE HAVE TO TREAT IT AS LIKE A MINUTE.
ANY SENSE THIS ADMINISTRATION IS SEEING THE LIGHT OR THAT YOUR FEDERAL LAWMAKERS ARE SEEING THE LIGHT?
IS THERE A NEED FOR AN IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY DECLARATION ON THE STATE'S EDUCATION BAR?
>> NO, I WOULD LOVE -- I THINK SEAN WOULD AGREE WITH THIS, THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE IF THAT WERE NOT GIVEN WITH ME AT THE END.
AS THE NEW STARTS SPILL OUT AND I THINK MY BID, THE PHONE IS GOING OFF THE HOOK.
WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THAT TIME FRAME?
IT HAD BLED INTO PEOPLE.
TEACHER SHORTAGES, LEARNING LOGS, SUMMER SLIDE, RESOURCES.
ELEVATING THE PROFESSOR, GETTING MORE PEOPLE IN, CHANGING THE CALENDAR STRUCTURE, WHATEVER IT IS.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE IN TUNE THAT WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THESE TOUCH POINTS, THEY WOULD LEAN INTO DOING SOMETHING.
THIS ISN'T AN INDICTMENT, THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION.
HOW BEAUTIFUL WOULD IT BE.
THE STATE THAT GETS DESIGNATED.
WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY TRULY STANDS UP TOMORROW PARENTS, TEACHERS, UNIONS AND SAYS, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH.
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOARD OF ED TAKING SO LONG TO GET THESE NUMBERS OUT AND THEN PUTTING OUT NUMBERS THAT ARE INCOMPLETE OR NOT AS FOCUSED AS CAN BE USEFUL.
IS IT TIME TO BLOW UP THE BOARD OF ED AND FIND ANOTHER WAY OF ADMINISTRATING OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.
>> HONESTLY -- >> GO AHEAD.
>> I WOULDN'T THROW THAT ON OUR MEMBERS.
THE STATE DIDEPARTMENT DID THE REST.
>> WHICH ONE?
>> WHAT THE SENATOR SAID BEFORE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A BLAME GAME TIME.
IT'S CHALLENGES WE WERE FACING FOR A TIME.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAFE BOARD, I'M HAPPY TO SEE IF HE LL MOVE HIS NOMINATIONS AHEAD.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE SENATE MOVE QUICKLY TO APPROVE THE NOMINATIONS.
LET'S GET THE STATE BOARD FULLY STAFFED UP.
GET PEOPLE ON.
GET A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS AND APPRECIATE THE SERVICE SO MANY HAVE HAD.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY TURNOVER IN THE STATE BOARD IN, WHAT, 5 YEARS, 6 YEARS?
THERE NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS THERE.
STATE BOARD HAS A ROLE.
GREAT, TO GET RID OF THE REGULATIONS THAT THEY FACE, BARRIERS TO THEIR FACE AND GETTING BACK AND A LOT OF THINGS THEY CAN FOCUS ON IS FOR THE STATE.
TRYING TO LOWER THOSE COSTS FOR COMING IN.
LEAVE THE DOLLAR ONES.
LET'S PRESS LEGISLATURE ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THERE WITH THE DEBT FORGIVENESS IF YOU STAY AND COMMIT TO THE INVESTIGATION.
>> LET'S STAY AND WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE EXTENDED DAY, EVEN GIVEN TEMPERATURE DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR.
LET'S PUT IT ALL ON THE TABLE.
OUR EDUCATORS ARE DOCK THE BEST THEY CAN.
THEY WANT ALL OF US TO WORK TOGETHER AND SAY, LET'S ADDRESS THIS COMPREHENSIVELY.
NOT TRYING TO POINT FINGERS, BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO HOLD HANDS AND GET IT DONE.
THANKS, BOTH OF YOU, FOR COMING ON AND SHARING INFORMATION WITH US.
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SEAN.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, SENATOR.
>>> PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED THE SPEAK OUT LAWN INTO EFFECT.
ZB >> THIS IS AN OFFSHOOT OF THE ME, TOO, MOVEMENT.
SHE'S TELLING HER STORY HOW SHE WAS MISTREATED IN THE 2017 CAMPAIGN.
SHE RECALLED THAT STORY THIS WEEK IN AN INTERVIEW WITH OUR COLL COLLEAGUE.
FIRST, LET'S HEAR A SEGMENT OF THAT CHAT.
THIS IS JULIA RAGNINSKY ABOUT HOW THIS WILL CHANGE THINGS WITH WIN WATER.
THE CANDIDATE IS -- DECIDES THAT HE IS GOING TO SURROUND HIMSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO RESPECT THEIR CO-WORKERS.
IF HE DOESN'T CHOOSE TO DO THAT, THERE IS NO LAW THAT'S GOING TO MAKE HIM DO IT, RIGHT?
ULTIMATELY WHAT WE CAN DO, AND THERE WAS A BILL PROPOSED IN THE LEGT SESSION, SOME LEGISLATURE TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT PARTY REVIEW THESE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM, IN MY CASE I ASKED FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT I EXPERIENCED AND WHAT I WITNESSED ON THE MURPHY, IT WAS RUN BY A LAW FIRM OR TWO LAW FIRMS.
HE HAS CALLS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE.
PAYS THE PAAPE WATCHERS.
INVESTIGATING IN THAT INVESTIGATION.
PAULA JONES WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR GILL, THEY LOVE THOSE.
THEY ALSO SERVE AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PERSON UNDER THE INVESTIGATION.
THE WHOLE THING WAS A WHITEWASH AND SWEPT UNDER THE RUG.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T FIX THROUGH LEGISLATION.
THAT IS SOMETHING GOVERNOR MURPHY SAID WE CAN'T TAKE IT SERIOUS.
I'M NOT GOING TO POWER AND PROMOTE THE MEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
EVERY SINGLE MAN WHO HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF THE COMPLAINT HAS PROSPERED IN HIS ADMINISTRATION.
OR HAS PROSPERED AS A RESULT OF BEING A CONSULTANT TO THE GOVERNOR.
THERE'S NO LAW IN THE WORLD THAT CAN CHANGE THAT.
THE ONLY THING THAT CAN CHANGE IS A CULTURAL PARADIGM SHIFT.
>> LET'S BRING IN RIHANNA VINOZY.
SHE TALKED WITH JULIA RA DIN SKI.
WE HAVE CLIPPINGS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SAGA BETWEEN JULIE RAG SKI AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHEN PHIL MURPHY WAS RUNNING HIS CAMPAIGN AND THEN JUMPED IN AND KATIE WENT TO THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AFTER SAYING SHE HAD REPORTED TO HIGH RANKING MEMBERS OF MURPHY'S TEAM THAT SHE HAD ALLEGEDLY BY RAPED BY ALBAREZ.
THIS LED TO HEARINGS, HOW THE CASE WAS HANDLED OR MISHANDLED.
PROMISED REFORMS FROM THE MURPHY STATION.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE -- LORETTA WINEBERG, NO PARKING.
THE WOMAN IN STATE POLITICS.
ABOUT MISOGYNY, SEXUAL ADULTS.
HOW THAT IS HANDLED IN STATE GOVERNMENT AND STATE POLITICS.
WE COVERED THOSE FROM DOZENS OF WOMEN FROM RANK AND FILE TO VERY SENIOR LEVEL, TALKED ABOUT SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT THEY FACED WHERE THEY WERE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, ALLEGEDLY HARASSED OR JUST SUBJECT TO BE BLATANT MA SOJ NIS PARTICULAR CULTURE.
THIS WAS DURING THE ME, TOO, MOVEMENT WHEN THAT WAS AT ITS HEIGHT.
IT REALLY OPENED UP PANDORA'S BOX FOR WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD WORKED IN THE REALM OF POP PARTICULARS KNEW.
THIS WAS THE WAY.
IF YOU WANTED TO WORK IN THIS FIELD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO THIS AND ACCEPT IT IN A WAY.
JULIA IS STILL FEUDING WITH THE OCEAN HAMLET TEST.
THREE ANONYMOUS WOMEN HAD TALKED ABOUT THESE NONDISCLOSURE EVENTS, IT COUNTRY BE TRUSTED.
THE FOLKS IN THE STATE OF CRIME.
WE INVESTIGATED, IT SPOKE.HE SAID/SHE SAID.
>> WE HAD INVITED BRENDAN GILL.
>> CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR PHIL MURPHY?
>> RIGHT.
RIGHT.
WE INVITED HIM TO COME ON BUT THEN HE CANCELED BECAUSE IT 37.
THE EDITORIAL BOARD DIRECTOR THERE.
SHE SAYS IN THAT BITE THAT WE JUST USED, YOU CANNOT CHANGE CULTURE WITH LAWS BUT THERE'S BEEN AN EFFORT TO REFORM.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE WINEBERG PROGRAM THERE WHERE WE CAN SAY, THAT'S DIFFERENT NOW?
>> YEAH.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF REALLY POSITIVE REFORMS TO COME OUT OF IT.
FIRST, I MEAN, YOU COULD POINT TO THE POLICY CHANGE EVER AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A SUPPORT PERSON WITH THEM.
LORETTA WEINBERG.
SEVERAL HAVE MADE THEIR WAY THROUGH IN TERMS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING.
THE VETTING PROCESSES FOR FOLKS WHO WON'T IN THE CHARACTER.
CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEERS AREN'T GOVERNMENT WORKERS AND THEY DIDN'T FALL INTO OTHER.
YOU COME UP TO SPEED.
OF COURSE, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF ROOM TO BE DONE.
LORETTA WEINBERG SAID THERE WERE STILL SHOES THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.
>> WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE.
YOU'VE SEEN YOUR SHARE OF CAMPAIGNS.
CHAIR THROWING, PROFANITY.
WE SAY THINGS HAVE CHANGED BUT IS THERE REALLY -- HAS THERE BEEN THIS PARADIGM SHIFT THAT JULIE TALKED ABOUT OR IS THERE VERY LITTLE.
JUST WANTS TO GET THERE IN HER BUSINESS.
OTHERWISE SHE'LL BE BLACKBALLED.
>> I THINK WE'D BE NAIVE TO SAY IT'S NOT HAPPENING AT ALL ANYMORE.
>> HARASSMENT SITUATIONS HAVE MORE AVENUES NOW TO PURSUE TO, A, BRING THOSE SITUATIONS TO LIGHT.
TO HOLD THEIR ACCUSERS ACCOUNTABLE AND THEN IMPROVE THE SITUATION MOVING FORWARD.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO ERADICATE THE BAD ACTORS OR THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE TO DO.
>> THANKS FOR COMING OVER.
>> WELL, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
>> THAT'S "CHAT BOX" FOR THIS WEEK.
THANKS FOR SHAUN SPILLER.
YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON TWITTER @DAVID JEWETT NBA.
THANKS FOR WATCHING, EVERYBODY HERE.
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