PRINT HER NEW ROLE AS A PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER JUST CAME DAYS AFTER ANOTHER LANDMARK, BETH MULLINS BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN IN 30 YEARS TO CALL THE NFL'S MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME.

JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT HER CAREER AND ABOUT WOMEN IN SPORTS BROADCASTING BECOMING THE NEW NORM IS LISA RYAN 10.

LISA WELCOME TO CHICAGO AT NIGHT.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

THERE IS A BIG FAN OF THE SHOW.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THIRD PERIOD THE THICK OF A BED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT CAROL HAD WITH RICK.

TO WHAT EXTENT THIS IS BECOMING AN EXTENT FOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR WHAT YOU CAN SEE?

PERFECT IT IS NOT AN ISSUE YET.

IT IS INTERESTING PAIRED I WONDER WHEN IT WILL CROSS OUTLINE.

IT IS PRE-MUCH OF THE PRO SPORTS LEVEL.

I DO NOT SEE IT VERY OFTEN.

IT IS CERTAINLY NOT IN THE BIG TEN YET.

I DO NOT SEE IT, I SEE SOME STUFF WITH THE CHICAGO RED STARS.

WHEN MEGAN BERTINO TOOK IT LAST SUMMER.

AGAIN THAT IS ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL SPORTS LEVEL.

IT HAS NOT CROSSED THAT COLLEGE SPORTS LEVEL YET.

>> DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT?

>> WHY NOT?

I THINK COLLEGE SPORTS IS MORE REGULATED THAN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.

LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THERE 18 22-YEAR-OLD THAT HEAD COACHES HAVE CONTROL OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.

WE WILL HAVE TO SEE.

>> LET'S GET BACK TO YOUR STORY.

HOW DID YOU FIND OUT THAT YOU GOT THE JOB CALLING THE NORTHWESTERN GAME AGAINST BOWLING GREEN?

>> I WAS DOING ERRANDS ON MICHIGAN AVENUE.

WE ALL KNOW IN CHICAGO HOW BUSY AND HELD OUT MICHIGAN AVENUE IS.

I TOOK THE PHONE CALL AND I HAD TO ACTUALLY STOP FOR SECOND BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW IF I HEARD IT RIGHT.

IT WAS NOT SOMETHING.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOAL.

BUT IT WASN'T SO BAD EXPECT APPEARED MY WALK HOME TO MY APARTMENT WAS ESPECIALLY SPECIAL THAT DAY.

>> YOU BECAUSE YOU WORK SOME TIME AS A SIDELINE REPORTER.

HOW DIFFERENT IS IT WORKING IN THE BOOTH?

>> I HAVE BEEN A PLAY-BY-PLAY FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT SPORTS.

>> WHAT SPORTS HAVE YOU DONE?

TALK BASKETBALL, EVERYTHING.

VOLLEYBALL, SOCCER, SOFTBALL, GYMNASTIC, YOU NAME IT EVEN FOR LUCKY.

I DO FEEL HOCKEY TO FOOTBALL.

THAT IS MY SPECTRUM.

THE ONE DIFFERENCE FOR FOOTBALL IS THAT YOU'RE A MILE HIGH ABOVE THE ACTION.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE WITH BOSCO OUT WHERE YOU'RE SITTING THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ACTION.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ADJUST TO.

I CALLED MOST OF THE GAME OFF OF BINOCULARS WHICH A LOT OF PLAY-BY-PLAY'S DO.

YES PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE IT.

YOU HAVE A SPOTTER THAT SEXY.

FROM ACUTE CALLED THE GAME USING BINOCULARS?

>> IS ALL YOU UNUSUAL THING PRETTY TALK TO A LOT OF FOOTBALL PLAY-BY-PLAY'S THEY WILL USE BINOCULARS.

OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE MONITOR IN FRONT OF YOU TO HELP AS WELL.

YOU HAVE A SPOTTER NEXT TO YOU THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH YOUR CHARTS THAT YOU HAVE WITH NAMES AND NUMBERS AND WHO GOT THE TIP.

WHO MADE THE CATCH.

WHO MADE THE TACKLE.

THERE IS A RHYTHM YOU HAVE TO GET DOWN THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER SPORT.

>> WHEN I HEAR PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER WAS SO IMPRESSED BY KEY, IT'S ALWAYS A HE IS PREPARED.

KNOWS THE NAMES OF THE LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM.

WHAT GOES INTO PREPARING FOR AGAIN?

YOU ARE NOT UP BOWLING GREEN GAME FAN I'M SURE.

>> WHAT I DID IS I WENT BACK AND I WATCHED EVERY SINGLE GAME FOR NORTHWESTERN LAST YEAR.

THAT IS UNUSUAL.

I HAD THIS ASSIGNMENT TOO MUCH BEFORE.

I HAD THE TIME TO DO IT.

MACQUARIE STRESSED OUT ABOUT GETTING READY FOR?

>> THERE ARE NERVES.

ANYTIME YOU DO SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEN THERE'S THE ATTENTION THAT GOES WITH IT.

YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM TO ACT LIKE YOU'VE DONE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF NERVES THERE.

YES THERE IS MARKED MEMORIZATION.

I THINK IT'S SAFE THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE FIRST STRINGERS ON BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE FOR BOTH TEAMS.

THERE IS A LOT OF PREPARATION THAT GOES INTO FOOTBALL THAT IS A MUCH MORE ADDED THAN ANY OTHER SPORT.

THERE BUTTERFLIES BEFORE THE GAME?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I GOT THERE, I USUALLY GET TO A FOOTBALL GAME ABOUT 3 HOURS BEFORE.

WHAT I DO SIDELINE.

THIS TIME I GOT THERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

3 AND A HALF TO ABOUT 4 HOURS.

I JUST WANTED TO HAVE MY OWN MOMENT.

I WANTED TO WALK AROUND THE FIELD.

JUST TAKE IT IN.

AS YOU HAD SAID I WENT TO NORTHWESTERN.

SO MY JOURNALISM JOURNEY BEGAN IN EVANSTON.

THAT IS A JOURNALISM CLASS ARE MILD ON THE ROAD.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE THAT MOMENT IN.

THE SECOND I PUT ON THE HEADSET I TOOK OFF MY ALMA MATER HAD I TOOK OFF MY FAN HAT.

I ROOT FOR GOOD STORYLINES, ROOTED FOR A GOOD GAME.

I ROOTED FOR GOOD PEOPLE.

>> YOU ARE A STUDENT ATHLETE YOURSELF.

YOU PLAY BASKETBALL AND SOCCER.

HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHAT YOU DO NOW?

>> WELL, I THINK IT GIVES YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT TAKES FOR THE STUDENT ATHLETES TO DO WHAT THEY DO.

I THINK IT HELPS ME COME FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU ASK QUESTIONS, WE INTERACT WITH COACHES, WE INTERACT WITH PLAYERS.

WHEN YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH AND RECOVER AFTER HE MADE A MISTAKE.

MAYBE YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE SYMPATHETIC TO.

WHAT IT TAKES TO RECOVER FROM AN INJURY.

BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE.

I THINK THERE IS A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL OF THESE STUDENT ATHLETES ARE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE YOU WENT THROUGH IT AS YOURSELF.

>> WHAT KIND OF REACTIONS DID YOU GET AFTER THE GAME?

>> VERY POSITIVE.

I WAS EXPECTING MORE NEGATIVITY BECAUSE THAT IS STILL THE WORLD WE LOVE IT.

I ACTUALLY HAD TO SEARCH FOR SOME OF THOSE NEGATIVE TWEETS ON TWITTER.

I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THAT.

>> YOU ARE A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THE NEGATIVE?

>> NO I WASN'T.

EVERYBODY WILL AT YOU.

RIGHT ON TWITTER.

I ACTUALLY WAITED A DAY AFTER I CALLED THE GAME TO HOP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT WAS SOMEBODY ADVICE THAT I HAD BEEN GIVEN IN TERMS OF HOW TO HANDLE THAT.

>> WHY WAIT A DAY TO WRECK I JUST WANTED TO SETTLE THROUGH.

I HAD MADE A PACT MYSELF WHETHER I THOUGHT THE GAME WENT POORLY FOR MY PERSPECTIVE OR WHETHER I THOUGHT IT WENT WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO APPRECIATE THE MOMENT.

I WANTED TO THINK ABOUT THE GAME.

AND PRICKLY I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK AND WATCH SOME OF IT MYSELF BEFORE I LOOK BACK TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WERE SAYING ABOUT IT.

PERIOD WHEN YOU WATCH YOURSELF WHAT YOU THINK OF YOUR PERFORMANCE?

>> THE FIRST QUARTER I TRIED TO KEEP IT VANILLA AND SIMPLE BECAUSE IT WAS A FIRST TIME DOING IT.

THEY MIGHT JUST MAKE CONTACT.

>> EVERYBODY WILL TALK ABOUT YOUR TOUCHDOWN CALL.

THE CALL THAT I WAS ACTUALLY PROUDEST OF WAS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE OF POSSESSION.

IT'S A BANG BANG THING IN FOOTBALL RIGHT?

WHEN YOU'RE A MILE HIGH IT'S HARD TO MAYBE CATCH A PLAYER.

GOD WHEN YOU GO BOUQUET CREATE HAD A FUMBLE.

I WAS ABLE TO PICK OUT HIS NUMBER LIKE THAT PART YOU'RE THINKING AT THE BOOTH SHALL BE SOMETHING PRETTY SHOW ME SOMETHING.

HE IS 16 AND I SAW THAT SEX.

THAT'S ALL THAT THAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

YOU'RE ON IT.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE CALL THAT I WAS MOST PROUD OF.

IT DID NOT COME FROM A TOUCHDOWN CALL AT ALL.

>> AS YOU KNOW EARLIER THIS MONTH AT MULLINS BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN IN 30 YEARS TO CALL MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME.

DID YOU CALL HER FOR ADVICE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS NOT LIKE, I ACTUALLY OUR MONICA LEE SAT IN THE NORTHWESTERN FOOTBALL BOOTH 4 YEARS AGO AND WATCHED THE MULLINS CALL OF THE BALLGAME.

SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MENTOR TO ME.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST CAME UP AND I NEED TO CONTACT BETH MULLINS.

SHE HAD BEEN GREAT PAIRED I CENTER MY WORK BEFORE PURCHASE CRITIQUED AT THEIR CHEEK IMMIGRATED VICE THE SELLER.

I SAID, BETH I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME.

SHE STARTED LAUGHING AND SAID LISA, IT IS NEVER THE RIGHT TIME.

YOU MAKE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

BASED ON HOW YOU PREPARE AND YOUR WORK ETHIC.

I ACTUALLY GOT A TEXT FROM HER THE MORNING OF THE GAME.

IT SAID, NO PRESSURE.

AMERICA IS JUST WATCHING.

[LAUGHTER].

IT WAS THE LAST THAT I NEEDED.

>> DID YOU EVER PLATE FACE BLOWBACK FROM FANS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BOOTH OR WORKING AT SPORTS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WOULD HAVE PEOPLE SAID?

>> JUST SPECIFICS.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY WOULD NOT PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR WORK.

THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE IN THE BOOTH.

I DO NOT WANT TO GET INTO SPECIFICS BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO GET THAT KIND OF ATTENTION.

IT IS GETTING BETTER.

IT'S GETTING BETTER.

I JUST THINK THE POSITIVE REACTION TO EVEN BETH DOING THAT MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME I THINK WAS MORE POSITIVE COMMENTS THERE.

I THINK IT'S TIME.

IT IS 2017 FILM.

IT IS TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT BOUNCERS AS ANNOUNCERS AND NOT JUST AS A FUEL ANNOUNCER OR EMAIL AN ULCER.

>> HAVING SAID THAT.

THAT IT IS 2017 AT THAT POINT THAT YOU JUST MADE.

PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE WOMEN SPORTS JOURNALISTS AND WOMEN ANNOUNCERS AND WOMEN AND CALLING GAMES.

DOES NOT SOMETHING DEEPER OR IS IT JUST A SIMPLE AS YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM ALL FOR WOMEN ADVANCING, BUT I JUST DO NOT LIKE THE SOUND OF HER VOICE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT ABOUT MEN TOO.

THERE ARE A LOT OF MALE ANNOUNCERS ARE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY DO NOT LIKE THEIR STYLE.

I DO NOT THINK IT IS JUST FEMALE SPECIFIC.

>> YOU DO NOT THINK THEIR SEXISM INVOLVED?

>> ABSOLUTELY PRINT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.

I JUST SAY THAT SOMETIMES VIEWERS HAVE OF PROBLEM WITH A MALE VOICE OR A MILL PLAY-BY-PLAY VOICE.

IT IS NOT JUST ONLY CRITICIZING FEMALES FOR THEIR VOICES.

BUT, IT IS TIME.

IN THE 80s IT WAS RARE TO SEE EVEN A WOMAN COVERING SPORTS BROADCASTING RIGHT?

SO NOW WE SEE MORE AND MORE WOMEN AS HOSTS, SILENT REPORTERS, SO WE BREAK IN THAT MOLD AND NOW IT'S TIME TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP IN TERMS OF NOT PIGEONHOLING WOMEN IN THE ROLE OF SPORTS.

THERE HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN FOR HAVING WOMEN IN THE BOOTH AND JUST BE THE NEW NORM AND A BIG DEAL?

>> IT IS HARD TO PROJECT THE TIMELINE.

IT MIGHT BE 5 YEARS, MAYBE IT'S 10.

IT WILL TAKE I THINK SOME TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH LISTENING TO HIM A VOICE AND BE THE MAIN NARRATION OF A FOOTBALL GAME.

BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT.

IT WILL GET THERE.

DORIS BURKE, IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT SHE WILL BE A LEAD ANALYST FOR THE MBA PACKAGE AS THE FIRST TO DO