>> WELCOME BACK.

OUR GUEST THIS WEEK IS REPRESENTATIVE SARAH LIGHTNER, WHO CHAIRS THE HOUSE GOP CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.

OUR LEAD STORY, THE RACE FOR AROUND THE OTR TABLE, DAVID BOUCHER, RACHEL JUST AND CRAIG MAUGER.

SIT IN WITH US AS WE GET THE INSIDE OUT, OFF THE RECORD.

ANNOUNCER: PRODUCTION OF OFF THE RECORD IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: TIM: THANKS VERY MUCH.

WELCOME BACK TO OFF THE RECORD.

THE END IS IN SIGHT.

CAN I GET AN AMEN?

ALMOST THERE L. WE HAVE POLLING DATA.

FLOOR WHAT IS BROTHER HAS TO SAY.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT IS KNOTS OVER UNTIL THE VOTERS SAY IT IS OVER NEXT TUESDAY, BUT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER TUDOR DIXON HAS A LOT OF GROUPED TO PICK UP HE IS BE LE WITH PENT GOVERNOR AND INCUMBENT GOVERNOR GRETCHEN WHITMER HAS 28% LEAD WITH PEN PENT WOMEN.

I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT CAN BE TURNED AROUND.

HOWEVER ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO MICHIGAN VOTERS MISS DIXON IS BETTER OFF THAN THE GOVERNOR INCLUDING ON THE ISSUE OF EDUCATION AND INFLATION WHICH IS RANKED NUMBER ONE WITH MOST VOTERS YET MISS DIXON IS NOT IN THE LED AND REPORT AND EXPLAINS PART OF THE REASON IS THEY HAVE UNFAVORABLE RATING THAN THE GOVERNOR AND TURNS OUT THAT ABORTION IS MOTIVATING MORE VOTERS THAN INFLATION.

YES.

EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH INFLATION IS THE TOP ISSUE CONCERN, WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE GOVERNOR'S RACIAL, CLEARLY, ABORTION IS HEAD AND SHOULDERS OVER INFLATION.

ANOTHER THING TEF FOR THE DIXON CALM OPINION AND APPARENTLY TRYING TO LENGTH THE GOVERNOR TO THE SITTING PRESIDENT HAS NOT WORKED.

>> I AM SURPRISED THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MORE SK SESSIONFUL BECAUSE, IN MOST OTHER STATES, INFLATION AND THE ATTACKS ON BIDEN, AND THE DEMOCRAT HAS BEEN HAVING AN IMPACT.

TIM: IRONICALLY THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE TIED WITH THOSE WHO ARE SEARCHING TO VOTE BUT THE GOVERNOR HAS A 72-28% LEAD WITH THOSE VOTING ABSENTEE THE, MR. PORN SAYS ONE HOPE IS A LOW VOTER TURNOUT.

WHICH WOULD HELP REPUBLICANS.

SO, RACHEL, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, TIM.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE RIGHT HERE AT THE END.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT 7 OPINION POINT LEAD WITH WHITMER W WE YOU A COUPLE OF WE WOULD BE AGO BUT THE POLLING NOW THAT YOU POINTED OUT IS SIGNIFICANT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

IN THE, SOME RACES IT IS STILL DOUBLE-DIGIT THEN I THINK COME ELECTION DAY WE SEE THAT NATURALLY THEN, THEN, THE GOVERNOR HAS RIGHT NOW, MEAN, I THINK, I PERSONALLY AM A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED BY IT.

BECAUSE DO YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH HER THAT MANY REPUBLICANS ARE STILL KIND OF ON ABOUT WITH THE COVID STILL NOT TOTALLY RESOLVED ON THOSE ISSUES WITH HER THAT SHE STILL HAS THE STRONG LEAD.

>> YEAH, GAIN.

WE ARE SEEN A LEAD LIKE THIS FROM BEGINNING AND WE HAVE SEEN DIXON HAVE A STRUGGLE CAMP BRINGING IN FUND-RAISING MONEY, OBVIOUSLY, THE GOFF THIS HAS NOT.

RIGHT ARE THE PE GPING SHE TELEGRAPHED SHE IS GOING TO CALM PIN ON ABORTION, WE HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ABORTION IS DRIVING FOAM THE POLL AND SOMETHING SHE HAS LEANED ON.

I HAD SOMEONE TOLD ME THEY FELT THE DEMOCRATS PUSHED THAT ISSUE YOU TOO HARD TOO SOON.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DRIVING THEM WHEN THERE IS AMENDMENT RELATED TO ABORTION ON THE BALLOT.

>> YEAH I THINK BERNIE IS EXACTLY RIGHT AND THE COME MACHINE HE MADE, THIS IS ABOUT TURNOUT NOW.

IT IS IN AN ELECTION IF DEMOCRATS TURN OW, APPEARS GRETCHEN WHITMER IS GOING TO WIN AND THERE IS LOW TURNOUT ON DEMOCRATIC SEE YOU AND THE NUMBERS ARE SEEN OUT OF DETROIT, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM.

THERE IS STILL A PATH FOR TUDOR DIXON BUT EXTREMELY NARROW VERY NARROW PATH.

TIM: LET ME PUT A PIN ON THAT DETROIT THING.

41% BONS OUT OF DETROIT THEN NOW BOUNCING AROUND 3-33 AND IS THAT SIGNIFICANT OR NOT?

>> SURE.

IT COULD BE I THINK.

I DON'T KNOW HUFF TO MAKE A TEN-POINT GAP OR 1 POINT GAP AND IT COULD BE MORE SIGNIFICANT FOR OTHER REPUBLICAN STATEWIDE CAN DAIS I WOULD SAY MATT.

SO WHERE AS GOVERNOR WHITMER OR SECRETARY BENSON COULD WEATHER ISSUES IN DETROIT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DANA NESSEL COULD NOT SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IF I AM DANA NESSEL I AM CONCERNED ABOUT DETROIT NUMBER THAN IF I AM GRETCHEN WHITMER.

TIM: THE NUMBERS ARE ALL OVER THE LOT HER AND SOME HAVE SIX, SOME HAVE FIVE.

STEVE MITCHEM IN A TIE.

ABC LOU TIE.

WHO IS RIGHT?

YEAH.

THERE IS A GOOD ONE.

>> CERTAINLY, I DO SEE A STRUGGLE WITHIN THE REPUBLICANS, WHO ARE NOT SUPER ENGAGED WITH POLITICS WHO ARE REPUBLICANS TO THE CORE BUT MAYBE ARE NOT ALONG FOR THE RIDE THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN THE WAY YES, SO I THINK STILL STUCK THING TO ATTACH WITH HER AND MAY BE WHY WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT HERE THERE AND THE POLLING COULD BE WRONG AND WE COULD SEE IT CLOSER TO SIX POINTS.

THAT IS CRUCIAL EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SMALL BIT OF NUMBERS DIFFERING IN THE POLLS.

IF WHIT NER WINS BY ONLY FOUR POINTS YOU COULD SEE MATT WITHIN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE AND WINS BY FOUR POINTS YOU CAN SEE REPUBLICANS HOLD ON TO THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND MAYBE WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT MARGINS THERE AND NOW REPUBLICANS ARE IN A MAJOR ABOUT IT OF STRUGGLE AND LOSE THE LEGISLATURE AND PROBABLY WON'T WIN SO THAT MARGIN COULD BE PIVOTAL HERE.

>> WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE AG'S RACE?

IT IS EXCEPTIONALLY TIGHT.

THE LATEST POLL.

HE HAS NES SELL UP SIX POINTS THE LARGEST IT HAS BEEN IN THE POLL IN A MONTH.

WELL, MARGIN OF ERROR IS FOUR SO OUTSIDE OF THE MARGIN IF ERROR BUT NO ONE THINKS DANA NESSEL SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE RIGHT SHE HAS OBLITERATED IN FUND-RAISING SPENDING AND TELEVISION ADS AND PUMMELING WITH NEGATIVE AD ON TV AND IN THEORY THAT IS MAKING IMPACT WE SAW 7 UNDECIDED THIS TIME AND A GREATER DANA NESSEL LEAD.

THAT IS IT.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE MATT AND HAVEN'T SPENT AT ALL.

69% OF PEOPLE IN THIS POLL DIDN'T KNOW WHO CANDIDATE WAS AND DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND THEN, YOU ARE STILL THAT CLOSE TO WINNING THIS IS A DECEN CHANCE HE CAN STILL WIN FOR THE GOVERNOR IN THE RACE, THEN, IT IS TIGHT AND THERE IS NO REASON THAT DEMOCRATS SHOULD FEEL REALLY GREAT ABOUT WHERE THIS THE RACE IS NOW.

>> WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?

THE FACT OF THE MATTER, VOTERS NOT KNOWING AND VIEWING AS JUST ANOTHER REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IS ADVANTAGE OF HIM AT THIS POINT IN THE ELECTION.

>> NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

>> YEAH.

YOU NO HE?

DANA NIECES SELL'S CAMPAIGN HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PUT ISSUES.

DANA NESSEL'S CAMPAIGN HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PUTTEN FROM AND CENTER IN THE RACE.

YOU WONDER HOW HAVE THEY NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT?

I MEAN, IT IS REALLY STRIKING.

>> SHE HAS TOLL ME, DANA HAS TOLL ME HER INTERNAL SHOW THAT PEOPLE KNOW MATT AGAIN 600 PEOPLE POLLED 7 PERCENT AND REAL SHOT OF WINNING.

>> DOES THIS SAY MORE ABOUT MISS NESSEL THAN IT DOES ABOUT MR. DEPERNO.

IT SAY IS A BLOT THE VOS NOW.

IT IS BECAUSE THE VOTER ARE NOT SUPER ENGAGED IN RACE AND THOSE THAT ARE DON'T LIKE DE PERNO BUT MAYBE THEY WILL VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE IS A REPUBLICAN.

ALSO, WE SAW IN DETROIT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATS COMING UP TO TURNOUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 30% OF VOTERS ARE TURNING OUT IN SOME AREAS SO I THINK LIKE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO A KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THOSE RACES THEN WHO COMES FOUGHT THIS BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT LOOKING GREAT FOR DANA NESSEL.

TIM: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS MADE IMPACT ON THE VOTE BUT BUT IF YOUR POLLSTER IS CORRECT AND YOURS IS CORRECT, THEN THIS IS SITTING AT 55 OR 57%.

ARE YOU SURPRISED?

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED.

BUT I MEAN, I WOULD SAY OVERALL.

POLLING NUMBERS EVERYTHING YOU ARE HEARING.

WE COULD BE IN STORE FOR A LOT OF SURPRISES ON TUESDAY.

THEN POLLSTERS ARE MAKING.

FIRST OF ALL.

NOT ON TUESDAY THEN IT IS ON WEDNESDAY.

OK. THEN MAYBE NOT.

YOU ARE RIGHT INCH THEN MAYBE THURSDAY.

BUT NEXT.

>> IT IS NOT THURSDAY.

THEN NEXT THERE COULD BE A LOT OF YOU ARE PRICES THEN POLLSTERS ARE EK MAAING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

TURNOUT IN DETROIT AND LOOKS DIFFERENT.

A LOT OF THEM WILL MAKE DECISION FOR THE -9S TIME AFTER READING THAT TEXT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING ON THE PHONE THAN HAVING SOMEONE READ TO IT YOU.

ROOTING RIGHT NOW PROPOSAL 3 IS LOOKING GOOD BUT THAT COULD CHANGE.

>> WHAT WEIRD TICK ON THOSE NUMBERS.

>> THOSE ARE BIG MARGINS THEN REALLY BIG THEN AGAIN 17 POINTS IN OUR POLL.

THAT IS A POINT INNOCENT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU POLL CAN DAY THEN PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME THEN LOOKING AT OH TENSION AMENDMENT BUT IT IS, IT IS A HUGE MARGIN ESPECIALLY OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THIS HAS ARE POURED A TON OF MONEY FOR IT.

THE OPPONENTS AND RIGHT TO MICHIGAN HAVE POURED IN A TON OF MONEY NOT QUITE AS MUCH BUT A LOT.

SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE DIXON CAMPAIGN FOR EXAMPLE.

IN THE, SO, THERE IS A LOT OUT THERE AND TO MOVE FROM 60 TO 57 AND NOT THAT MOMENT YOU WANT TOP SEIZE IF YOU ARE OPPOSING THIS.

THEN I THINK YOU HIT A KEY POINT.

TAKE THIS AMENDMENT OFF THE BALLOT.

TUDOR DIXON GETS A HECK OF ALO OF MONEY FROM RIGHT TO LIFE DOESN'T SHE.

>> POTENTIALLY.

SHE DID.

SHE DID.

>> THAT IS CERTAINLY HELPS TUDOR DIXON, RIGHT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD FROM DEMOCRATS FOR A LONG TYPE.

PEOPLE ARE FIRED UP TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE PA SELFCALLY AND GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS PROPOSAL, YOU PROBABLY ALSO GOING TO VOTE.

SOMETHING FOR REPUBLICANS TO ORGANIZE AROUND.

THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

RIGHT NOW THESE CHURCHES ARE PROVIDING THE GOP WITH ORGANIZING BASE THEY WITH NOT HAVE HAD HAD THAT ISSUE NOT ON THE BALLOT.

>> FLOORS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT NO VOTE PEOPLE ARE FACING.

60 WERE OF THE PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN ARE PRO CHOICE ONLY 35 PERCENT.

WELL, WHEN YOU START OUT WITH THAT KIND OF DISSED A RAN TAME THEN PLUS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO OVER THE YEARS NO WHAT THE POSITION OF A HIERARCHY IS THEN ONE POLLSTER SAID AND CHOSEN TO IGNORE THEM AND SO GETTING THEM TO THE NO SIDE IS A TOUGH SELL WHATS THE TAKE ON THOSE NUMBERS THEN I THINK IT IS DIFFICULT IN THIS ELECTION BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO A VOTING BOOTH THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS ON THE MINE YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND DROP MY KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL, YEAH.

THERE IS A LOT GOING ON THERE THEM IN THE, THEN, THIS ELECTION WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT GO ON THEN WALK INSIDE AND TALK ABOUT ABORTION AND MAKE DECISION ON ABORTION.

SO, THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE RATES, I HI, IN A DIF REASON WAY, MAYBE YOU MAY BE VOTING FOR SOMETHING BASE ON WHAT RERENTLY HAPPENED THAT MORNING AND WHAT T IS GOING ON IN YOUR I LOVE AND THINKING ABOUT ABORTION DIRECTLY AT TIME.

BEFORE WITH YOU CALLEN THE GUEST AND THEN YOKING ABOUT ELECTION RESULTS NOT BEING OUT ON TUESDAY NIGHT.

THEN LOOK.

THE BULK OF THIS MUNICIPAL I TYES ARE NOT COUNTING THOSE ABSENTEE BALLOTS MILLION THE NEXT DAY, SO YOU COULD HAVE REPUBLICANS DECLARING VICTORY BASED ON HE REPUBLICAN VOTE COMING IN ON ELECTION DAY AND THEN, THAT OVERTURN WHEN YOU COUNT THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS IS THAT NOT A POSSIBILITY.

IN THE, IT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN 2020 RIGHT.

YOU HEARD THIS IDEA OF A RED MIRAGE THAT IT WAS TALKED ABOUT TWO YEAR AGO.

REPUBLICANS TEND TO TREND A LITTLE BIT MORE VOTING IN PERSON.

SO REFLECTED IN BERN THE'S LATEST POLL SO TAKES LONGER TO COUNT IN MICHIGAN FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS THEN, IT IS RIGHT.

DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD BE SURPRISED WE SAW SOME EITHER TIGHT RACES OR REPUBLICANNED A RAN TABLES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY ERASED OR AGAIN SUBSTANTIALLY GET A LOT CLOSER AS THOSE COME IN.

ALL RIGHT.

CALL IN REPRESENTATIVE WHOS THE REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE HOUSING CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE AND THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN CONTROL THE GOVERNOR MIGHT WIN BY 11 POINT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT AND SKUBICK NEEDS TO MAKE NEWS HERE HP DOES THAT COST YOU CONTROL OF THE HOUSE?

DOES THAT COST CONTROL OF THE HOUSES IF THE GOVERNOR COMES IN AT 11 POINTS?

>> INT THINK SOME OF THE IN THE PAST HAVE SEEN THE HOUSE OUTPER WERE PERFORMED WITH THE TOP OF THE TICKET I BELIEVE WITH THE SLATE OF CANDIDATE THE SAME THING WILL BE TRUE THIS YEAR, HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO WITHIN BY 11 POINTS.

SO THINK WE ARE SO I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION AND CONTROL THE HOUSE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

>> IS THE ABORTION ISSUE HURRING THE CAN DAYS?

>> IT DEPEND ON WHERE YOU ARE AT IN THE STATE.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN ON THE DOORS ALL OVER THE STATE YOU KNOW HELPING OUR CANDIDATES AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT ISSUE HAS NOT EVEN BEEN ISSUE FOR ME.

I BET I HAD TWO PEOPLE RECENTLY 6:00 IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WHEN WE HAVE BEEN OUT ON DOORS THAT MENTIONED IT.

THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS TAXES AND THEN INFLATION THEN YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY, THEY ARE LIKE, THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, THE CRUNCH AT THE PUMP, AT THE GROCERY STORE AND PEOPLE BRING UP EGGS EVEN.

THEN TWO YEARS AGO EGGS WERE 89 CENS A DOZEN THEN PAYING LIKE $2.39.

RACHEL?

YEAH.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON WINNING BUY A LARGE MARGIN.

>> I AM CONFIDENT IN 60.

YOU KNOW?

THERE IS OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN THE CAUCUS THINK THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR MORE.

THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR MORE AND DID HE PENS EN HOW WELL THE TOP PERFORMS WE ALL KNOW THAT.

I THINK WE H HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY DOWN RIVER AND YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THEN, I THINK, WE HAVE GREAT CANDIDATES THERE THAT TOOK THAT DRIS STRICT AND COME OUT ON TOP ON ELECTION DAY.

OR WEDNESDAY.

THANK YOU.

WE HEARD SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT INFLATION, THEN, IT BEING THE TOP ISSUES OF THIS RACE, THEN, IF REPUBLICANS HOL THEIR MAY AREA YOUS THEN WHAT WILL YOU DO TO COMBAT IN PLACING INWHAT ARE SOME OF THE POLICIES YOU ALL ARE GOING TO CHECK OFF TO TROY TO FIGHT THIS?

>> YEAH.

WE TRIED DEALING WITH THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW?

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE GOVERNOR IS GOING AROUND CAMPAIGNING ON THESE THINGS ON HELPING, YOU KNOW, RETIREES, PEOPLE ON PENSIONS KEEP MORE OF THEIR MONEY.

WE PUT TWO BILL AND TWO PLANS FORWARD TO THE GOVERNOR THIS YEAR IN APRIL AND MAY I THINK.

THE PERSONAL INCOME TAX AND PEOPLE WOULD FEEL THAN THE PAYCHECKS THEN, WE DID THE REFORM TO THE INCOME TAX CREDIT AND DID THE RETIREE PENSION AND ALSO SUSTAINABLE REFORM IN THE GOVERNOR HAS VETOED IT.

TWICE.

TWICE.

TWICE.

SO I HOPE ON THOSE BILL HAS VOTE FOR THOSE BILLS NOT ON THEM, BUT VOTED FOR THEM, THEN, THEN, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

THEN, KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE GAS, YOU KNOW?

ONCE YOU FIRST START AND WANT 45-CENT GAS TAX AND PUSHED BACK ON THAT IN THE, THEN, ME AS APROP MEMBER SUPPORTED THE CHAIRMAN THEN YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSED THAT A GAS TAX HOLIDAY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CONTROL OF THAT.

THEN, TO AT LEAST FEEL AL LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF IN THE GOVERNOR VETOED THAT AS WELL THEN I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED OF THAT AND, AND, YOU KNOW?

WE HAVE TRIED?

P I HOPE WE ARE SUCCESSFUL ON ELECTION DAY BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WILL ACTUAL BE ABLE ABLE TO SEE RELIEF IN THE NEXT YEAR WITH NEW LEADERSHIP.

>> AFTER REDISTRIGGING THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT DEMOCRATS TAKING THE SENATE AND HOW DOES A DEMOCRATIC SENATE AFFECT HOW ARE A REPUBLICAN HOUSE APPROACHES INFLATION BUT ANY SORT OF POLICY THEN YOU HAD A TOUGH TIME GET THINGS PASSED WITH ENTIRELY REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE.

WELL, THAT I WILL BE TUNE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, KNOW, WORK THE OTHER CHAMBER THEN, THERE IS THE LAST OF THEM TO CONVINCE AND HOPEFULLY, THEY POLAR PULL MORE WEIGHT BUT QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE THE NATE.

SO I THINK THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THEIR CANDIDATES, THEY ARE RAISED AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY THEN, THEN, I JUST THINK THEY WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION FROM ELECTION DAY.

HOW MANY SEATS ARE ACTUALLY IN PLAY THAT WILL DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THE HOUSE CONTROL?

YOUR SHOT AT THOSE, YOU GET ALL OF THEM THIS NO WE DONE NED ALL OF HEM.

WE HAVE A GREAT PATH TO MAJORITY THEN I THINK WE ARE LOCKED IN AT 54 NOW AT THIS POINT INNOCENT IN THE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY NED A COUPLE OF THOSE TEN.

TEN, I THINK, WE ARE GOING TO GET FIVE OF THEM.

YOU KNOW?

AT LEAST INCH AT LEAST.

THEN, YOU KNOW.

I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT.

IT IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU ARE COUNTING ON WINNING IN SOME AREAS THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT WON IN FOR MANY YEARS THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT DONE THE RIVER THEN LOOKING.

>> YOU REFERENCED I AM GUESSING.

YEAH.

MARQUETTE.

IS THAT ACCURATE TO SAY RIGHT.

FOR YOU ALL TOLL DO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THEN WIN IN SOME AREAS YOU HAVE NOT WON IN FOR AWHILE.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THE 10 UP IN THE MORE.

WAS UP THERE MYSELF.

I DID A TWO-DAY STENT UP THIS HELPING MELODY WAGNER.

I THIS I THAT THE PEOPLE ARE JUST -- YOU KNOW, WAN SOMEBODY CLOSE TO PEOPLE THAT IS REAL.

THEN I THINK NOWS THE TIME FOR THAT CHANGE.

THEN I THINK SHE HAS GREAT SHOT OF WINNING THAT.

THEN, I SUPPORT HER.

AND VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE GOVERNOR'S VETO THEN I KNOW SHE HAD QUITE A FEW OF THOSE AND THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS SHOULD SHE WIN IN A SECOND DETERMINE THE TIME TERM THAT VETO NUMBER WOULD INCREASE EVEN MORE?

WELL, I WOULD HOPE NOT IF SHE DOES COT OW OW TON ON TUESDAY AND HOPE SHE WOULD BE SINCERE AND GENUINE WHEN SHE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH HE LEGISLATURE YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME LEGISLATURES NOW THAT HAVE NEVER MET THE GOVERNOR.

SO I THINK IT IS DISINGENUOUS WITH HER WHEN SHE SAYS SHE IS WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURES WHEN SOME OF THE CHAIRS HAVE NEVER MET HER.

I HOPE SHE IS GIN WIN THEN AS WE ENTER THE RECESSION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ME BEING THE NUMBERS YEAH ON APROPS YOU POE, I IS PROBABLY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HITTING RECESSION HERE IN MICHIGAN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR THEN WOE HEED TO MAKE SURE WE SAVE THE MONEY WE HAVE ON THE K BOOS THEN NOT SPEND IT.

WE ARE FORCED TO SPEND SOME OF IT THEN I THINK WE HEED TO YOU KNOW, PRESERVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE THEN SHALL ABLE TO GRN RELEASE TO MICHIGANDERS.

>> IS DONALD TRUMP A PLUS OR MINUS OF THE BULK OF THE CANDIDATESES?

>> WELL GENES ON WHERE YOU ARE AT.

I THINK SOME OF THE BEST PART IS FALLEN OFF THE RADAR A LITTLE BIT.

THERE ARE AREAS, I MEAN, I LIVE IN JACKSON COUNTY.

WE ARE THE PERTH PLACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

AND TRUMP IS VERY, VERY POPULAR IN MY AREA AND STILL TO THIS DAY AND SOME ALL OVER.

THERE ARE IN A LOT OF RURAL MICHIGAN THEN EVEN UP NORTH WHEN I WAS UP THERE I SAW A LOT OF TRUMP FLAGS AS WELL THEN, BUT, YOU KNOW,.

>> WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE HEED TO LOOK AHEAD AND DO WHAT WE CAN WITHIN THE PEOPLE THIS WE NEED TO ELECT.

>> THE ROBB WITH MR. TRUMP HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE PAST AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE.

THAT IS A DISCONNECT THAT HURTS YOU GUYS?

AUTOS AGAIN, IT DEPEND OS WHEREIN YOU ARE AT.

I HAVE NOT GOL AND CALL SAYING I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE.

SO AT THIS IMPORTANT WE ARE A COUPLE OF DAYS A WAY FROM THE ELECTION TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE BALLOTS PEOPLE JUST VOTING A LOT OF THEM HAVE VOTED.

I WOULD SAY, THREE QUARTERS OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE DOOR HAD ALREADY VOTED.

SO OUR MINES ARE MADE UP AT THIS IT PO.

IT IS NOT ISSUE.

WHOS THE ONE CANDIDATE OR THE ONE DISTRICT REPUBLICAN THAT IS GOING TO SURPRISE PEOPLE WHEN THEY WATCH THE ROUTE COMS THIS ELECTION.

FROM WINNING?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN M WHO IS GOING TO BIN WHO IS GOING TO SURPRISE PEOPLE.

AND I HI WE HAVE TWO TUNES THEN THE UP OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE GARZA SEAT.

JIM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO END UP GETTING RID OF TWO NEW DEMOCRAT IN COUPLE BEEN AS, THAT IS MY PREDICTION FROM BEING BOOTS ON THE GROUND, BEING EN THOSE DISTRICT, KNOCKING, TALKING TO THOUGH PEOPLE FOR THOSE CANDIDATES.

I THINK REGARDLESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ARE REPUBLICAN AREAS AND PEOPLE HAVE WORKED THEIR TAILS OFF TO AROUND THE POM'S TRUST AND REMINDED OF THE DEMOCRAT HOUSINGS THAT HAVE RUN OUR STATE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE COVID RESPONSE AND SOME OF THE CYCLELINESS THAT WENT ALONG WITH THAT.

I AM A SPORTS WOMAN.

REMEMBER THAT TIME YOU COULDN'T GO FISHING WITH THE MOTORBOAT BECAUSE YOU GET CO RID.

WHAT SENSE DID THAT MAKE.

YOU DIDN'T.

IT WAS CYCLELINESS SO YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE END OF THE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE HAS AND THE SENATE WILL REGAIN CONTROL AND THEN I HOPE THAT DIXON SURE MAKES THAT GAP SMALLER IN THIS I THINK, QUITE FRANKLY THAT SHE WILL END UP COMING OUT OF TOP.

DO YOU KNOW A CANDIDATE NAMED JOHNSON?

>> , THAT IS A BIG STEM.

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING IN THAT?

THAT'S THE AND I WANT.

WHAT WAS THAT GOING TO BE?

HERE WE ARE A COUPLE OF DAYS AWAY FROM ELECTION DAY YOU KNOW.

THEN, YOU TALK ON THAT ROLL YOU WOULD DO IT.

I MU I WOULD BE IN THIS HOUSE.

IT IS COMING DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

YOU KNOW?

YOU KNOW HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB RAISING MONEY FOR THE CAUCUS AND HELP ORGANIZE THE CURRENT SPEAKER THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.

I THINK, AT THIS POINT, HE HAS DEFINITELY TRIED, NO HE INMADE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR CAUCUS.

HE WILL BE WITH ONE THAT IS INCLUSIVE THE CAUCUS AND RAISE MONEY SO WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION TO RETAN THE HOUSE IN 2022 BUT MOVING FORWARD AND THIS RACE BASICALLY TERM DMS THIS HE NEXT TEN YEARS BEFORE THE NEXT REDISTRICTING.

>> QUICKLY.

PROPOSAL THREE FAILS DO YOU SUPPORT ALLOWING THE 1911 LAW TO STAY IN EFFECT OR WOULD YOU WANT TO SITE CHANGED?

ME PERSONALLY, I AM NOT A FAN OF ABORTION I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE USED AS MEANS OF BIRTH CONTROL HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CIRKS THAT PEOPLE FALL INTO AND QUITE FRANKLY YOU KNOW, I NOT UP TO ME TO DECIDE.

PEOPLE WILL AREA IN IN TA.

ITS OUP PEOPLE.

DOES THAT LAW NEED TO BE CHANGED?

>> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT IS NOT UP TO ME.

>> REPRESENTATIVE.

IT IS IN THE LEGISLATURE FITS DEBATED.

THE THING IS, IT IS UP BEFORE THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

THIS PEOPLE WILL COME OUT ON TOP.

WHATEVER WAY THAT HAP PES TO BE THAT HEAPS TO BE I WILL GO WITH WHAT AREA OF THEY DECIDE ON TUESDAY.

>> YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT, AREN'T YOU?

>> A LITTLE BIT.

I HAD MY OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS BUT REAL CHRISCALLY I COME FROM DISTRICT THAT IS MODERATE CONSERVATIVE DISTRICT I HAVE TO VOTE IN MY DISTRICT.

OK.

I GOT TO GET OUT.

KEEP US POSTED ON THIS HE RACE.

WE WILL SEE YOU FEX WEEK ALSO THANKS TO THE PANEL.

IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED MAKE SURE YOU SHOW UP ON TUESDAY SO WE CAN TELL YOU HOW YOU DID.

SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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