>> WELCOME BACK TO OFF THE RECORD THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MICHIGAN ASSOCIATION SCHOOL BOARDS IS HERE.

OUR LEAD STORY IS A POSSIBLE REBATE TO MICHIGAN MOTORISTS.

ON THE OTR PANEL, EMILY, JONATHAN AND JIM, SITTING WITH US AS WE GET THE INSIDE OUT OFF THE RECORD.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME TO OFF THE RECORD SINCE WE HOLD POLL TIGS ANOTHER STANDARD IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE YOU WILL RERAILROAD IT ON THIS PROGRAM LAST BACK WE MADE A MISTAKE BAY REPORTING THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS THE POWER TO SET VACCINATION POLICIES AND THAT IS NOT TRUE.

WE APOLOGIZE AND ONLY HELD BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

WELCOME TO OUR PANEL THIS MORNING AND JAM MY, JONATHAN, EM ILY, THE OPENING QUESTION, GUYS THAT IS A $5 MILLION POSSIBLE REABOUT IT SITTING OUT THERE AND WILL THE MOTOR IS THEE MONEY, JAME.

>> NO, SIR.

>> JONATHAN.

>> NOT ALL OF IT.

>> EMILY?

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

>> YES.

I THINK THE THREE OF YOU ARE RIGHT AND I AGREE.

AND SAVINGS FOR MICHIGAN MOTOR IS THE GOVERNOR NOW SUGGESTING THAT IS 5 BILLION SURPLUS.

AND 694 AND THE STATE AGENCIES THE MICHIGAN CLAIMS FUN WITH EXECUTIVE BOARD OF FIVE INSURANCE COMPANY EXECUTIVE AND IT REPORTS THERE WAS SURPLUS THAT HAS DOUBLED OVER LAST YEAR.

SO THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

I THINK SO.

FORMER REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR TRIED TO SQUEEZE MONEY OUT OF THE FUN BEFORE AND FAILED.

AND NOT ONLY IRRESPONSIBLE I THINK IT IS BORE LINE THE SAME THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR LEADERS TO DO A JOB FANNED THEY DON'T PERFORM, LET'S DO IT WITHOUT THREADER AND GET A NEW LEAR IN THERE.

MEANWHILE THE REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE IS ALL IN.

WELL, I AM NOT ALWAYS GOVERNOR BUT I GOT, I GOT SAY, IT MAKES SENSE AND I THINK MICHIGAN CONSUMERS AND DRIVERS IN PARTICULAR HAVE PAID THE HIGHEST RATINGS IN THE HAS.

WOULD YOU BE A YES VERY ON THAN IF YOU GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

YEAH.

I WOULD.

I WOULD BE A YES VOTE ON THAT.

>> YOU THINK YOUR VOL FOLK WAS LIKE $694 BEFORE THE HOL DID AS.

DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD COMPLAIN.

THE LOBBYING GROUP FOR INSURANCE CANS HAS ENDORSED SAYING IT IS PART OF THE NEW LAW AND THAT SURPLUSES BE RUSHED TO MOTOR IS AND BUT TO BE SURE THE CHECKS ARE NOT IN THE MAIL YET AS WE YET TO FLARE THE NCC BOARD AS TO WHAT IT BELIEVES SHOULD BE DONE.

>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS THAT PIECE RAN ON MONDAY.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BOARD EMILY AND SAID YES THERE WILL BE REBATE BUT GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND WHY DO THEY WANT TO TAKE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

JUST WHERE IT A CHICK AND ISN'T OUT, HEY.

WELL, THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS HOW BIG THE REBATE SHOULD BE.

YOU KNOW MY UNDERSTAND OF THE FUN IS THAT IT IS NOT DID HE DNED SO SET AT $0 AND DESIGNED TO HAVE SOME MONEY IN IT BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE AND WHAT YEAR AND WHAT KIND OF CARE THEY NEED.

AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER QUESTION RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE LEGISLATURE HAS HAD SOME INDICATIONSES THAT MAYBE THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SOME SORT OF FIX TO THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES THERATION LOVE UNEASE ABOUT THAT AND THEN RIGHT NOW AND 45% CUT TO REIMBURSEMENT RATES AND PEOPLE RECEIVING LONG-TERM CARE AND SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES ARE CLOSING ALTOGETHER AND THERE IS A QEZ ABOUT ACCESSING CARE AND YOU KNOW, GETTING RID OF THIS MONEY GIVES THE STATE FEWER OPTIONS AND HOW THEY DEAL WELL THAT.

ALSO TALK ABOUT THE GOFF AND DID SOMETHING THIS BACK AND BEAT EVERYBODY TO THE BUNCH AND HERE'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS STORY AND WAS NOT LAW THERE WAS REABOUT IT AND THE OF IN ANNOUNCED THIS BUT LOOKED LOOK THE OWN HERSHIP WAS HER IDEA AND THIS WOOK THE BOARD SAYS YES THIS LOOKS GOOD FOR THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T IT.

NO QUESTION ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS AND SHE CAN OWN THAT PART OF THIS AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE ONBOARD AND I THINK AS THIS MOVES THROUGH AND DEPENDING ON THE FINAL AMOUNT AND I THINK BOTH SIDES THE D HE AND THE R SEA WILL TRY TO CLAIM SOME VICTORY HER AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE INTENDED ALL LISTENING AND HERE IS YOUR PAYDAY.

BUT BAY THE SAME TOKEN,WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY ON THE AMOUNT?

IS IT JUST THIS BOARD?

>> WELL, THE BOARD FRESH THE BOARD WERE NOT TO AC THE LEGISLATURE COULD DO SOMETHING ON THIS.

YOUR TAKE ON THIS MACHINE?

I.

>> WELL, YEAH.

GOOD POLL TK FOR THE GOVERNOR RIGHT?

AS YOU MENTIONED THERE IS A REFUND MECHANISM BUILT TOLL THE STATE LAW THAT SHE PRIVED WRITTEN BAY REB CABS BULL THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT HOWEVER THAT WAS NOT SET TO TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AFTER AUDIT IN 2022 SO AFTER THE ELECTION IN 2022 AND 2022 POTENTIALLY SO YOU THOUGH THE GOVERNOR RIGHT NOW AND THE TALK ABOUT INSURANCE LAW!

LAW IS SORT OF THE KEY ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT RATES FOR LONG TERM CARE AND FOR CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED AND THE EFFECT IT IS HAVING THAT CARE FOR THEM AND WE HAVE NOT YET SEEN HUGE SAVINGS IN THE WILL YOU AND WE DO KNOW THAT IT HAS REDUCED RATES SOMEWHAT BUT MICHIGAN IS STILL RIGHT UP THERE AS ONE MUCH IF NOT THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY FOR AUTO INSURANCE RATES AS OF LAST YEARS ANYWAY AND THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO CAN CUE LIT IN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND HAS TO DOUBT THIS TECH NISM AND REFUNDS AND WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION WOULDN'T DO HER MUCH GOOD AND GETTING OUT IN FRONT IT'S THE BOARD'S YOU KNOW, PREFERENCE FOR HOW LARGE THESE REFUNDS WILL BE AND THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE $5 BILLION CERTAINLY BUT THE LAW AS WRITTEN WOULD HAVE REFUNDED ANYTHING OVER 1-00 IF SORRY FRESH THEIR ASSETS ARE MORE THAN 100 AND 2% OF THEIR ROW JEKED LIABILITIES SO A CUSHION BUILT UNTIL THE WILL YOU AND WOULDN'T SEE THEM AND COMING IN BEA THREE CUSHION.

AND I IMAGINE THEY WOULD END UP IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

EVERYBODY ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL IS GOING BONKERS OVER THIS ELECTION IN VA VAN SHOULD CAUTION AND ARE GOVERNOR WHIT M MORE AND REPUBLICAN IN MICHIGAN RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION WHAT WAS YOUR TAKEAWAY IF ANYTHING FOR VIRGINIA.

WELL, HE REPUBLICANS ARE CLAIMING REBOUND HERE AND THAT WAS A RACE THAT THEY HAD TO WIN AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT POSITION AND AS I WATCHED WITH ALL OF THIS PLY OUT AND WE ARE SEEING IT HERE AS WELL IN MICHIGAN THIS IS THE CONNECTION THAT I SEE.

WHAT WAS THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT FROM FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HE ENDORSED, HE WON.

BUT HE ALSO KEPT HIM AT A DISTANCE.

THERE WERE NO RALLIES.

THERE WERE NO TRUMP EVENTS.

WHERE TRUMP HIMSELF CAME IN.

THAT'S THE BALANCING ACT THAT I THINK ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TO DO AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN TRUMP ENDORSE ANY OF THE REPUBLICAN HERE IN INCLUDING FORMER DETROIT POLICE CHIEF JAMES GRY AND SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO PLY OUT HERE REALLY?

A LOT TO BE DETERMINED.

THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT AND EMILY TO JAM M'S POINT LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN UP TO THIS POINT SAYING YOU KNOW?

WE SORT OF LIKED TO MAKE DONALD TRUMP PART OF THIS ISSUE BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS UNMY BOY WHO DON'T LIKE HIM.

DO YOU STEP BACK TO SAY HOW DID THAT WORK OFF OF THIS.

NOT SO WELL.

AND HE GET AT ARM'S LENGTH A IN THE HI MY DEMOCRATIC PART I WOULD WANT TRUMP INVOLVED IN THIS RACE PAVCALLY BECAUSE YOU ME, HE WON HERE IN 2016.

HE DID NOT WIN HERE IN 2020 BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND IF I WERE GRETCHEN WHITMER IF I WOULD BE WORRY BASED TREND NATIONALLY AND IT IS NOT NEW.

IS NO AT SECRET.

WHOEVER'S PARTY IS IN OFFICE IN THEMENT SY TENDS TO PERFORM POORLY IN THE SORT OF MIDTERM RACE AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT MIDTERM BUT YOU KNOW, AND I THINK REALLY THINK THAT WHITMER HAS TIED HER STAR TO BIND IN SOME SENSE AND THEN YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY IN CONSIDERATION TO BE VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK AT ONE POINT AND SO I DO THINK THAT SHE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT HOW BIDEN DOES AS PRESIDENT AND SHE IS LOOKING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN.

HOW INTERESTING JONATHAN AND THE DEMOCRATS MAY HAVE TO BACK OFF MR. TRUMP THE REPUBLICANS MAY JUST KICK IT UP A COUPLE OF NOTCHES TO LINK TO YOU KNOW WHO SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

>> YEAH.

CERTAINLY.

THERE IS CHALLENGES FOR BOTH OF THEM IN TERMS OF ASSOCIATIONS AND I MEAN FOR WHITMER I THINK VIRGINIA IS REMINDER TO GET BACK TO SORT OF BRED AND BUTTER MIDDLE CLASS LIKE FIXING THE DAMN ROADS WHICH RESONATED WITH VOTERS HERE IN 2018 SO THIS WEEK AND THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND THE PRESS RELEASE STARTED TO USE THIS SLOGAN PUTTING MICHIGAN FIRST AND KIND OF SOBS LIKE AMERICA FIRST WHICH NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT BUT REALLY.

IT IS YOU KNOW, SHE IS TRYING TO TELL VOTERS AM FOCUSED HERE IN MICHIGAN AND YEAH.

YEAH.

I AUDITIONED TO BE VP AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME CAMPAIGNING FOR JOE BIDEN BUT NOW I AM FOCUSED ON MICHIGAN.

SO THAT MAKES SENSE FOR HER.

FOR REPUBLICANS MEAN WHAT WE SAW WORK IN VIRGINIA WAS YEAH.

THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND CLAIMS.

IN BEAD SCHOOL AND HOW RACE IS TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS WHICH WE SEE THE LEGISLATURE HERE IN I MY ALL PICKING UP ON.

AND AGREE HOW THEY HANDLED CO YOU HAVE AND TIRED OF HOW IT HAS IMPACTED SCHOOLS AND REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TRY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

THEN AGAIN I THINK IT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO HERE IN MICHIGAN TO DISTANCE FOR THE DISTANCE.

AND FROM THE STOLEN ELECTION CLAIMS BECAUSE TRUMP CONTINUES TO HARP ON MICHIGAN AND NOT DOING THAT IN VIRGINIA AND YOU KNOW, HE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE CALLING FOR AUDITS IN VIRGINIA STILL.

SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DIE NAM BEES HERE IN MICHIGAN BUT CERTAINLY, GOOD NEW FOR REPUBLICANS THIS WEEK.

YEAH.

THINK ALL POLL TUGS SHOULD REMEMBER THE RULE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST INTERESTED THAT YOU ARE AGAINST SOMEBODY THEY WANT TO HEAR WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR ME.

THAT BECOMES THE CENTRAL PART AND OBVIOUSLY HE AXLEY GOT THAT WRONG.

THEN SHALL AMLY THREE LESS SEAT G THE MICHIGAN HOUSE THAT IS INSIDE BASEBALL AND STICK WITH US HERE, FOLKS.

THE REPUBLICANS NOW NEED 54 VOTES TO PASS SOMETHING AND THEY HAVE 55 VOTES IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR WANTING TO GET SOME STUFF THROUGH THE MICHIGAN HOUSE WITH YOUR DEMOCRATIC VOTES WOULD YOU DELAY SA SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL THOSE SEATS.

>> WELL, I THINK IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS POLITICALLY, IT IS UNQUESTIONABLY IN YOUR FAVOR AS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AND TO DELAY FILLING THOSE SEATS YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS 55 SEAT MAJORITY AND I BELIEVE IT SHRINKS TO 54 WITH MAROON KNOW NOT CURRENTLY SHOWING UP DUE TO PPO RIGHT NOW AND I DO THINK THIS HAS SHOWP AND HEAN SEEN HIM ON THE HOUSE FLOOR RECENTLY AS MY UNDERSTANDING AND A SLIM MAJOR CONTINUE THAT HE REPUBLICAN PARTY I THINK IN THE MICHIGAN TRADITIONALLY HAS LIKE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY GO LANG WITH IT ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE SO THEY ARING IF TO BE TRYING TO PEEL OFF SOME DEM CRAIC SUPPORT FOR THE MEASURES THEY ARE LOOKING TO PASS OR HAVE TO KEEP EVERYONE IN LINE AND THAT IS A TOUGH TASK.

Y.

THE REPUBLICANS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE VERY QUARTERBACKINGLY SENT OUT SA PRESS RELEASE GIVE IN DID A CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION AND READ BETWEEN THE LINE AND THE R'S HAVE TO BE CONCERNED HER AND GOT A WAYS TO GO AND ANOTHER YEAR.

>> YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY AND REUPONNED TO THAT SAYING WENT PUBLIC WITH THAT AND HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T BRING IT UP WHEN THEY HAD THE QUAD MEETING BEHIND THE SCENES AND SO TRYING TO NUDGE HER IN THAT DIRECTION BUT I DON'T THINK SHE MOVES ON ANY TIME SOON AND THEN EMILY GIVE A GREAT ASSESSMENT OF WHERE THING STAN AND I CANNOT TOP THAT AND SHE IS GOING TO SIT THIS ONE OUT FOR WHALE AND NOT MAKE ANY MOREOVERS.

ALL RIGHT.

CALL IN THE GUEST TODAY.

DON WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE MICHIGAN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS.

DON, WELCOME THOUGH PROGRAM.

WHAT DOES THAT G STABBED FOR IN THE BACK THERE?

>> WELL, AS YOU KNOW, GREEN BAY PARKERS ARE MY TEAM.

>> THANK YOU.

NICE HAVING YOU ON THE SHOW OK. OK.

LISTEN START ON SOMETHING QUITE SERIOUS.

AND CAN YOU GIVE ME A GUESSTIMATE THE COOL BOARD MEMBERS WHO CONFRONTED OVER MASKS.

OH, IT HAS GOT TO BE A HIGH PERCENTAGE.

CANNOT GIVE YOU A NUMBER.

THINK MOST HAP HAPPENED IN THE SOUTHERN HALF THEY HAVE BEEN STATEWIDE AND ALSO MAYBE IT IS NORTH OF 50% I AM SURE AND REALLY I THINK THE BETTER QUESTION IS ABOUT MAYBE WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN THOSE SITUATIONS THAT COULD CHANGE ON WHERE YOU ARE AT.

SO OVER 50% OF YOUR SCHOOL BOARDS ARE FIGHTING WITH THEIR LOCAL FOLK OVER THIS.

THIS IS A FAIR STATEMENT?

WE DON'T HAVE OVER 50% THAT HAVE NOT ASKED IN POLICE AND STILL GETTING CROWDS IF THEY ARE CONSIDERING IT OR PATTERNS COMING IN AND COMPLAINING ABOUT TO WEAR MASK TO RETURN TO SCHOOL IN TEN DAYS IF THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED THEN IT MAY BE LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND THEY ARE GOING TO GET PARENTS IN.

DY A STORY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND LIVINGTON COUNTY THEY NOT HAVE A MASK MAN DITH AND NUMBERS WIN AND MORE THAN 1,000 AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OVER THERE ACTUALLY DID NOT CALL UT AND USED THE TERM EXCLUSION AND 1,000 FROM CLASSES AND IT IS A MIXED PARENT VERSUS PARENT OVER THERE AND SOME WANTING THE MASK MANDATE AND SOME DON'T AND I ASKED HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN EXCLUSION VERSUS CREAKS US IS HOW WE TALK PINT IN THE POLICY AND WHEN DEALING WITH DISEASE THEN FORCED TO PUT A MASK MANDATE IN THREE OF THE SCHOOLS.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR DON.

I DO.

ARE WE GOING SEE MORE OF THIS.

DO YOU HAVE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPER IN CONTINUE DIDS WHO ARE FORCED BAY COVID NUMBERS TICK ACTION WHEN THEY HAVE A STRONG CONTINGENCY PARENTS WHO DON'T WANT IT.

THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK OUR HOPE HAS TO BE NOW WITH APPROVAL OF THE YOUTH VACCINE FOR ABLES 5 THROUGH 12 AND SEE QUICK GROWTH IN NUMBERS GETTING THAT AND DILL A LOT TO LESS IN THE NEED BUT JUST THIS WEEK ALONE WE ARE SEEING A SPIKE IN SCHOOLS THAT ARE HAVING TO SHUT DOESN'T AND EITHER BECAUSE OF LOOK OF TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED OR A LOOK OF STUDENT IS SO THINK IT CONTINUES MILLION WE SEE IT DRIVE.

WE HAVE KEYED IN ON ISSUE IS GOING TO KEEP THE OUTRAGE AGAINST SCHOOL BOARDS GOING PAST CERTAINLY COVID WHICH IS GRIT CALL RACE THEORY WHICH I KNOW IS NOT TAUGHT IN MICHIGAN SCHOOLS BUT IT IS REALLY BECOME CHARGED AND TO THE TENSION THERE WAS CLIP THAT WENT VIRAL RECENTLY OF SEASON WITH ACCUSING THE SCHOOL BOARD IN MICHIGAN OF I BELIEVE TEACHING CAN BELL IM.

HOW DO YOU DECHARGE THAT AT ISSUE AT A SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL AND MAKE IT SO WE'RE NOT HAVING LIKE TERRIBLE CONFRONTATIONS BETWEEN PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBER AND SCHOOL BARDS THAT THEY HAVE EVERY TIME.

THAT IS A STRUGGLE FOR BOARDS AND SENT IT UP EARLIER THIS SUMMER TO TRAY TO APPROACH GROUPS WHO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS OPPOSITIONED TO WHAT THEY ARE NOT DOING AND WHAT I THINK IS KIND OF A NATIONAL FRENZY OVER SOMETHING THAT UNMICHIGAN AND I THINK MAN THINK STATES IS NOT BEING TAUGHT AND DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK AND MORE COMMUNICATION IN HAVING THE TALKING POINTS AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT SAY HERE WHAT IS WE ARE DOING AND CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS NOT WHAT HE WE'RE DOING SO THERE ARE BOARD MEB MEATINGS THAT HAVE GOTTENNING LANE LOTS OF THREATS AND BOARD MEMBERS ARE FEELING THE ABILITIES IN COME-TUN A WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS GETTING RECAN AND BOARD MEMBERS RESIGN AND WE HAVE BOARD OF ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR AND WOR ABOUT WHO I GOING TO RUN FOR SCHOOL BOARD NEXT SUMMER.

EM LAY FOLLOW-UP.

YEAH.

WHAT'S THE WORRY ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO RUN OBVIOUSLY SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE A JOB TO DID AND A TENDENCY TO CONSIDER SORT OF A PROVING GROUND FOR THE FUTURE POLITICIAN IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND WHAT KIND DO YOU THINK THE ENVIRONMENT IS GOING TO ATTRACT?

THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HIS TO CLIN THE LEC LEGISLATURE I THINK PROBABLY ALMOST EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT GROUP HAS MORE PEOPLE TO GET LEAKED THAN SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND DON'T WANT TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND A HANDFUL THAT DO BUT I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE PEOPLE LOOKING AT SCHOOL BOARD AS PART OF A PARTISAN JUMPING OFF OR BEGINNING POINT FOR ELECTIONS AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE BE WITH TO SEE SAN LIKE TO SEE PARTISAN OUT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SEAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN GOVERNING AND NOT A SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY AND THINK I THAT IS HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE AND WHETHER IT BE COVID OR CRITICAL RACE THEORY OR 5th ELECT OR ANY OTHER SIN SHALL SHY THAT WE SEE IN THESE SITUATIONS AND WE TRY STAY AWAY FROM THAT LOOK FOR PEOPLE TO RUN AND JUST CENTERED MINDED AND PEOPLE WHO I THINK MANY OF THEM ARE LACKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON SCHOOL BOARDS TO SAY DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT NOW.

JONATHAN?

DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT THE ARE DOING MUFF TO TURN DOWN NOW.

AND TAKING A HANDS OFF APPROACH BY COVID-19 POLICIES FOR YOURSELF OVER THE LAST SERVE MONTHS THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU GOT THE REPUBLICAN LED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN STI TURE PASSING AND CRITICAL RACE THEORY BILLS AND ADAPTING A RESOLUTION CONDEMNING A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MEMO THAT SUGGESTED THEY WOULD START INVESTIGATING THREATS MADE AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE ARE GETTING ENOUGH COVER HERE FROM THE STATE LAIRDS?

>> WELL, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THESE SHOULD BE LOCAL ISSUES HANDLED LOCALLY.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW MANY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE PUT GREAT ETH ARE NU OR IN THE PAST ON THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOING THEIR JOB AND BARD MEMBERS HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND CLEARLY THE OF IN'S OFFICE COULD IF THEY DID IT VO LALLY AND NOT THROUGH LEGISLATION IN SUPPORTING SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND THESE ARE LOCALS AND DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THE THREATS AND VIT TREEOL THEY ARE SEEING AT NEED AND TRYING HARD TO DO THE THING I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

WE HAVE ATE LOVE PEOPLE JUST NOT LISTENING TO THAT AND SEEMS TO HAVE GONE OUT THE WINDOW.

>> JONATHAN, FOLLOW-UP?

YEAH GETTING BACK TO THAT YOU SAID YOU SUPPORT THE CURRENT STATE POLICY IN THE OF THE LEAVING COVID RULES FOR IN STANCE.

AND I ACTUALLY THINK THE MOLDS THEY HAD WITH LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND SCHOOL BOARD TOGETHER AND FIGURING THIS OUT WAS GOOD POLICY BUT WE DID AS YOU SAID STEP IN AND THREATEN FUNDING IN THOSE SITUATIONS TO PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENTS AND THAT REALLY CAUSED THE PROBLEM AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS CLOSE TO THE VOTERS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS TO MAKE DECISION.

AND NOW PRECLUDED THAT FROM HAPPENING IN MANY COMEDIES THAT BACK TRADE THAT AND I THINK WE COULD HAVE LEFT IT THINGS WERE IN PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT WORKING WITH SCHOOLS TO MAKE DECISION.

THE SCHOOL BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE DECISION ON THEIR OWN.

WHAT HAPPENED IN VIRGINIA THE REPUBLICANS CRIT POLITICIZE THOUGH SCHOOLS AND WON ELECTION WHEN YOU HEARD THAT YOU MUST HAVE BEEN GOING, OH, BOY THIS BETTER NOT HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN BUT IT IS HAPPENING IN MICHIGAN.

IT IS HAPPENING IN MY AND HAPPENED IN A I LOT STATES NOW.

AS I SAID EARLIER.

AND AND THEY HAVE FOR PARTISAN POLITICS TALK ABOUT NOT LIKING WASHINGTON AND NOT LIKING LANSING BUT WE SEE THROUGH EFFORTS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO IN VIT THE SAME PROBLEM WE SEE IN CAPITAL CITIES INTO THE SCHOOL BOARDROOMS THEN IN THE END I DON'T THINK THAT THE END RESULT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT VOTERS AND NOT GOING TO LIKE WHAT THEY SEE.

WELL, EDUCATION WILL GET LOST IN THE WASH. WELL, OR GOING TON CONTINUE TO BE AT THE HIGH LEVEL AND NOT THE THINGS WE REALLY HEAD TO AS BOARDS IN EDUCATION AND TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL SHALL SHOOTS.

JIM?

AS I AM SITTING HERE LISTENING TO IN AND A COUPLE OF THINGS SO PHONES CANDIDATE FOR SCHOOL BOARDS.

YOU HAVE SEATS FILLED AND IN THE SAME BOAT WE NEED WORKERS WE NEED PEOPLE TO FUNCTION AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE SHORT OF THESE PEOPLE BY THE SAME TOKEN AND YOU HAVE SCHOOL BOARDS WHO ARE FACING TEACHER SHORTAGE THEN WE SEE E-MAIL COME THROUGH HERE IN METRO DETROIT THAT A CERTAIN SCAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TEACHER SHORTAGE AND DONE STORY ON SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS SHORTAGES SO THIS IS A CRISIS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

ISN'T IT?

TEACHER SHORTAGE.

THE STAFFING SHORTAGE AND AS YOU SAID WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO VIRTUAL OR SHUTTLE DOWN A BUILDING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.

IT IS NOT COVID RELATE AND A SHEER LOOK OF NUMBERS OF PEOPLE GOING TO EDUCATION AND WE TALKED ABOUT SCHOOL BOARDS BUT LET'S FACE IT.

YOU ARE YOUNG HIGH SCHOOLER OR COLLEGE STUDENT LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY WITH THE PLIT SEE YOUZATION OF THE SCHOOLS DO YOU WANT THIS AND MAKE YOU WANT TO BAM TEACHER?

I THINK FOR MANY OF THEM THEIR ANSWER IS NO.

SO CAB TON THE RHETORIC DOWN SAN GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AGO AND OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT AND WHAT THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING AND NOT ONLY SHORTAGE OF SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS BUZZ WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR SHORTAGE TO MAKE IT WORSE FOR TEACHERS.

WHAT ARE THE FEX FOR THAT.

MAYBE CHASING SOME PEOPLE AWAY AND THE TEACHER SHORTAGE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN UNPOLICE OR BRAUING FOR BEFORE THIS MASKING AND RITE CALL RACE THEORY CAME TO THE FOREFRONT.

GOOD QUESTION.

THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT MICHIGAN AND NATION WADE EVERYWHERE AND LIKE WE DO FOR MEDICAL FIELD.

HASHED TO REACH PLACES AND RURAL AREAS AND URBAN AND I THINK CONGRESS TO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT LOAN FORGIVENESS AND SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM FOR KIDS.

AND RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE INTEREST IN MATH AND SILENCE BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT AND USE THOSE AS AN EXAMPLE AND TEACHER STARTING SALARY IS NOT BAD I COULD USE THAT SAME SKILL SET AND 75% MORE AND THEN IT IS THAT READY TO MAKE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT ON THE TABLE AND I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE COLLEGE MUCH LESS TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE FIELD.

>> WELL THE SCHOOLS OPEN THEIR DOORS TO ALLOW IN HE SCHOOL SETTING SAN ADVICE THEM TO STAY OUT OF THAT?

SO WE ARE NOT.

THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

WE SAW IT ACTUALLY LAST SPRING AS VACCINE THAT WAS THERE FOR 16 AND OLD AND HAVE SEEN SCHOOLS POSTING JUSTS A CHOICE RIGHT.

THEY ARE OPENING THEIR DOOR AND THE SERVICE WE SUPPORT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

YOU HAVE SEEN IT THIS BAD UNTHE EDUCATION ARENA, SIR?

I HAVE TO SAY NO I HAVE NOT.

>> WELCOME.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM AND THANKS FOR DOING IT.

ALSO THANKS TO THE GREAT PANEL AND NEXT WEEK.

SEE WILL YOU.

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