[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.

>> I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> I THINK FROM DAY ONE IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL ATTRACTION.

>> CHICAGO READIES TO TAKE A GAMBLE WHERE SHOULD A CASINO GO?

>> THE TEXAS ABORTION CASE IS BACK AT THE SUPREME COURT.

WE BREAKDOWN THE ARGUMENTS HEARD TODAY WITH TWO LEGAL ANALYSTS.

>> WE ARE DIGGING OUR OWN GRAVES.

ENOUGH TREATING NATURE LIKE A TOILET.

>> AS WORLD LEADERS MEET IN SCOTLAND TO DISCUSS THE CLIMATE CRISIS WE HEAR FROM LOCALS TO DIVEST FROM FOSSIL FUEL.

>> SOME ARE TRAUMATIZED AFTER FLEEING THEIR COUNTRY WE HEAR FROM THE REPORTER WHO BROKE THEIR STORY.

>> QUARTERLY FILINGS REVEAL THE CNA HACK EXPOSED INFORMATION OF 75,000 PEOPLE THAT AND MORE BUSINESS NEWS FROM CRAIN'S.

>> CHICAGO IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CULTURAL CAPITALS OF THE WORLD BUT HOW IS IT FARING?

WE TALK WITH OUTGOING COMMISSIONER MARK KELLY.

>> THIS IS THE WEEK... >> AND NORTHWESTERN'S INDIGENOUS ARTIST IN RESIDENCE PRACTICES THE LONG LOST ART OF BISHOP GRANT CANOE BUILDING.

>> THE STATUS QUO REMAINS FOR THE CITY'S VACCINE MANDATE FOR NOW.

A COOK COUNTY JUDGE RULED NONCOMPLIANT CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS CAN GO ON NO PAY STATUS FOR DISOBEYING THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT BUT THE CITY CANNOT ENFORCE THE DECEMBER 31 DEADLINE WITHOUT FIRST GOING TO ARBITRATION.

ALL EMPLOYEES WERE DIRECTED TO REPORT THEIR VACCINATION STATUS BY OCTOBER 19TH.

334 MEMBERS ARE AT RISK OF DISCIPLINE FOR NOT COMPLYING.

>> MEANWHILE THE CITY OF CHICAGO RELEASES THE RATE OF CITY WORKER VACCINE COMPLIANCE.

ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES 80% OF ALL EMPLOYEES REPORTED THEIR STATUS AND 82% OF THOSE REPORTING ARE FULLY VACCINATED.

MEANWHILE, THE WORLDWIDE COVID-19 DEATH TOLL REACHED FIVE MILLION PEOPLE TODAY.

THE UNITED STATES LEADS WITH MORE THAN 740,000 LIVES LOST DURING THE PANDEMIC.

>> HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PLEDGED TO FIGHT THE LATEST PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IN ILLINOIS, GUN VIOLENCE.

GOVERNOR PLEDGED TO FIGHT GUN VIOLENCE AND DECLARING IT A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

THE STATE WILL OPEN APPLICATIONS TO FUND COMMUNITY-BASED ANTIVIOLENCE INITIATIVES.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

BUT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SAYING THROUGHOUT ALL OF GOVERNMENT, THAT THERE SHOULD BE COORDINATION ON THAT IDEA.

>> AND JURY SELECTION BEGINS IN THE KYLE RITTENHOUSE CASE IN KENOSHA.

THE JUDGE IS HOPING TO SEAT THE JURY QUICKLY BUT THERE ARE 150 JURORS TO QUESTION.

12 JURORS AND EIGHT ALTERNATES WILL HEAR THE CASE WHICH KYLE RITTENHOUSE CROSSED STATE LINES FROM ILLINOIS TO BUSINESS CON SON AFTER THE WISCONSIN AFTER THE SHOOTING OF JACOB BLAKE IN 2020.

THE ATTORNEYS SAY THE TEEN GOT AN AR15 STYLE RIFLE TO PROTECT BUSINESSES AFTER LOOTING AND ARSON.

KYLE RITTENHOUSE FATALLY SHOT AND KILLED TWO MEN AND WOUNDED A THIRD SAYING HE ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE.

UP NEXT, MAYOR LIGHTFOOT IS DEALT A FULL HOUSE WITH FIVE CASINO PROPOSALS.

THAT IS COMING UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> WANNA BET?

THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH LONG AWAITED PLANS FOR A CASINO.

AMANDA VINICKY JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

WHAT IS THE LATEST?

>> WELL, BRANDIS THE CARDS HAVE BEEN DEALT, IF YOU WILL, AND NOW CHICAGO HAS TO WEIGH OPTIONS WITH THE FIVE BID IT IS RECEIVED FRIDAY TO DECIDE WHICH COMPANY IF ANY HAS THE WINNING HAND AND WHERE.

THERE IS A CHANCE A CASINO COULD BE BUILT HERE AT A VACANT LOT IN CHINATOWN PITCHED BY DEVELOPERS AS THE 78 AS IN 78TH COMMUNITY AREA.

OR PERHAPS, THE CASINO MAY LAND IN CONVENTION CENTRAL ON THE GROUNDS OF McCORMICK PLACE.

AN OPTION.

IN ALL, CHICAGO RECEIVING A HANDFUL OF OPTIONS FIVE FROM THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS.

NOW, THE BIDS THEMSELVES ARE NOT YET PUBLIC AT THIS POINT.

THE CITY HAS JUST RELEASED THE NAMES OF THE CORPORATIONS THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS.

ONE COMES FROM A HARD ROCK ENTITY.

A SPOKESPERSON DID NOT RESULT CALLS SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HARD ROCK WOULD PROPOSE TO BUILD.

NOW, YOU ALSO HAVE RUSH STREET GAMING PROPOSING CASINOS AT THE 78 NEAR THE SOUTH LOOP IN CHINATOWN.

OR THE McCORMICK PLACE LAKESIDE CENTER WHERE CONVENTIONEERS COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF THE BUSINESS.

AND BALI'S CORPORATION, THE COMPANY THEY ALSO ARE PROPOSING A McCORMICK PLACE LOCATION AND ALSO ANOTHER PROPOSAL FOR THE FORMER "CHICAGO TRIBUNE" PUBLISHING CENTER NEAR CHICAGO AVENUE AND HALSTED CLOSE TO THE NORTH BRANCH OF THE CHICAGO RIVER.

CORY ARONOVITZ RUNS CHICAGO'S CASINO LAW GROUP AND SAYS EACH BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE TABLE.

THE LOCAL MAGNET RUSH STREET DEVELOPED CASINOS IN PITTSBURGH AND PHILADELPHIA AND RUNS ILLINOIS' HIGHEST GROSSING CASINO, RIVERS IN DES PLAINES.

HE SAYS IT HAS A STRONG LOCAL BRAND.

HARD ROCK HAS A NEW CASINO IN GARY, INDIANA AND IS ALSO SOON GOING TO BE OPENING A CASINO IN ROCKFORD.

>> BALANCELY'S DOES NOT HAVE A CASINO AND WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THEIR BID THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS THEIR NUMBER ONE PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S UPSIDE IN THOSE BIDS.

RIVERS IS CERTAINLY VERY SUCCESSFUL.

THEY ARE IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.

AND HARD ROCK IS CERTAINLY BUILDING ITS BRAND ESPECIALLY WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT THEY ARE GOING TO REINVEST INTO LAS VEGAS MARKET.

SO YOU HAVE SOME REAL STRONG SUITERS.

>> STRONG SUITERS OR -- I CAN'T HELP IT THERE AND YOU ARE MISSING BIG NAMES IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY MGM, WYNN OR AS MAYOR LIGHTFOOT PUT IT, PROPOSALS WITH LAS VEGAS ADDRESSES.

NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY ECONOMIST MIKE WENZ HAS STUDIED GAMBLING AND HOW IT PAIRS UP WITH LOCAL ECONOMICS AND SAYS THAT PART OF WHY YOU SEE SOME FOLKS NOT PARTICIPATING IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE COMPETITION.

THE SAME LAW THAT AUTHORIZED CHICAGO'S CASINO ALSO AUTHORIZED NEW CASINOS THE ONE IN ROCKFORD AND WAUKEGAN AND THE SUBURBS AND THE EXISTING CASINOS.

>> THE MARKET HAS BECOME MUCH MORE SATURATED AND WITHIN ILLINOIS, THE ADVENT OF SPORTS GAMBLING AND SPORTS BOOKS HAS MADE A MORE -- HAS MADE THE MARKET MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS LUCRATIVE FOR NEWCOMERS TO ENTER.

>> CHICAGO OFFICIALS WEIGH THEIR OPTIONS AND HAVE A LOT TO CONSIDER.

THE GOAL OF A CASINO IS TWO FOLD: TO RAISE REVENUE FOR CHICAGO'S BUDGET WHICH COULD USE TONIGHT CREATE JOBS.

THAT IS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN IT COMES TO LOCATION.

>> YOU WANT YOUR TOURISTS AND OUT OF TOWNERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAN MOST AFFORD TO SPEND THE MONEY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CASINOS.

THE SECOND YOU WANT TO HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU ARE HOPING TO GENERATE EMPLOYMENT HAVE ACCESS AS WELL.

AND THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME PLACES.

>> NOW, FOR HIS TWO CENTS, CORY ARONOVITZ WAS INTERESTED IN A DOWNTOWN LOCATION BUT IN TERMS OF MIKE WENZ, HE SAYS McCORMICK PLACE FITS THE BILL.

THE WEST SIDE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH WINTRUST ARENA.

AND THEN THERE IS STILL ROOM TO GROW AND IT'S NEARLY READY TO GO FOR A TEMPORARY CASINO WHILE THE BIGGER ONE IS BUILT.

>> IF McCORMICK IS YOU KNOW, IN NEED OF A FACELIFT.

HOW DO YOU FIX THAT ICONIC BUILDING HOW DO YOU RETROFIT IT?

YOU GET UP AND OPEN QUICKLY AND CONTINUE TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO REPURPOSE EXISTING FACILITY.

YOU STOP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO INDIANA AND THERE'S NOT MANY BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

>> AT DL3 REALTY, LEON WALKER IS FOCUSED ON CREATING JOBS AND IMPROVES NEIGHBORHOODS AND CENTRAL IS THAT A CASINO IS LOCATED NEAR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

>> YOU PUT IT IN A LOCATION WHERE PUBLIC TRANSIT IS DIMINISHED OR LACKING THEN WE ARE NOT DOING THE BEST YOU CAN TO CONNECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I'M VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON THIS BEING NOT JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FEW BUT BEING AN OPPORTUNITY THAT INCLUDES ALL.

>> WHICH GETS TO THE SOCIAL EQUITY COMPONENT THERE ARE GOING TO BE JOBS CREATED SO THINGS LIKE TELLERS, SERVERS, CARD DEALERS.

BUT LEADERSHIP ROLES, TOO.

AND WALKER SAYS THE CITY NEEDS TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS IT ASSESSES APPLICATION.

>> THAT CAN BE THROUGH CONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEGA OPPORTUNITY.

THAT A CASINO REPRESENTS.

AND THEY CAN BUILD A AND GROW LOCALLY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> MIKE WENZ SAYS CHICAGO NEEDS TO BE MINDFUL IT IS NOT PUTTING A CASINO IN AN ALREADY DISTRESSED COMMUNITY GIVEN PROOF THAT CASINOS CAN BE TROUBLESOME IN TERMS OF CAUSING PATHOLOGICAL GAMBLING ADDICTIONS AND CONSIDER PLACES LIKE ATLANTIC CITY.

A CASINO COMING TO A DEVELOPED AREA DID NOT CREATE OR ADD JOBS IT DISPLACED EXISTING BUSINESSES.

>> IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE CASINO OPERATOR.

THINK OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THERE ON A DAILY BASIS?

AND SO I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BEAR IN MIND WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THE YOU CITY RATHER THAN WHAT MAKES MOST SENSE FOR A DEVELOPER.

>> TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC IF A CASINO WERE TO GO AT THAT FORMER "CHICAGO TRIBUNE" PUBLISHING CENTER SITE.

IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR TIMELINE FOR WHEN THE CITY IS GOING TO BE MAKING ITS CHOICES AND WHEN WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT IS BEHIND THE BIDS.

WE KNOW THIS ISN'T JUST A CASINO.

CHICAGO'S REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL WANTED ANYBODY WHO SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO PUT PRIORITY PLAN FOR AN ENTIRE RESORT COMPLEX WITH HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, SHOPS AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUE AND SLOTS AT THE AIRPORTS.

WITH THAT, BRANDIS, THAT'S BACK TO YOU.

>> AMANDA, THANK YOU.

>> AND NOW TO PARIS AND ARGUMENTS THE THE SUPREME COURT FOR A MUCH WATCHED CASE.

PARIS?

>> THE TEXAS ABORTION CASE IS BACK AT THE SUPREME COURT TWO MONTHS TO THE DAY AFTER IT WENT INTO EFFECT.

THE LAW EMPOWERS PRIVATE CITIZENS TO ENFORCE A BAN ON ABORTIONS AS EARLY AS SIX WEEKS OF PREGNANCY.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THE LAW HAS COME BEFORE THE HIGH COURT N A RULING THE COURT BY A VOTE ALLOWED THE LAW TO GO INTO EFFECT PENDING FURTHER ACTION AND JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT TODAY'S ARGUMENTS ARE CAROLYN SHAPIRO, PROFESSOR OF LAW AT ILLINOIS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY CHICAGO KENT COLLEGE OF LAW.

AND PETER BREEN, VICE-PRESIDENT AND SENIOR COUNSEL WITH THE THOMAS MORE SOCIETY.

WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

PETER, I PARAPHRASED IT REMIND US THE THRUST OF THIS TEXAS LAW?

>> PETER I THINK YOU ARE ON MUTE THERE?

>> SORRY I HAVE LITTLE KIDS RUNNING AROUND.

THE TEXAS LAW ALLOWS PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS TO ENFORCE A SIX-WEEK POST SIX-WEEK ABORTION BAN IT'S UNIQUE IT HAS PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS DOING IT INSTEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.

THE ARGUMENT FOR FOLKS ON THE PRO-LIFE SIDE IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE IT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TEXAS STATE COURTS ON THE ABORTION SIDE SAY NO WE WANT TO DO A FEDERAL COURT PRECHALLENGE AND THAT GETS US TO THE SUPREME COURT ON THE ISSUE OF FEDERAL COURT JURISDICTION IT'S SO COMPLICATED.

IT'S DIFFICULT OF A TOPIC BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PRACTITIONERS.

>> WHETHER THIS BELONGS IN THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM IS WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS HEARING ARGUE.

S ON TODAY.

>> SUMMARIZE THE ARGUMENTS FOR US THAT THE JUSTICES HEARD TODAY?

>> THE ARGUMENT THAT THE CASE SHOULD BE HEARD NOW IN FEDERAL COURT IS THAT THIS IS -- AN UNPRECEDENTED LAW.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A LAW LIKE THIS WHERE THE STATE IS OUTSOURCING ITS DESIRE TO VIOLATE PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

IT WOULD BE AS IF A STATE SAID I COULD SUE SOMEBODY FOR ANYTIME THEY BOUGHT A GUN OR I COULD SUE A GUN DEALER WITHOUT HAVING ANY STATE ACTIVITY IN THE ENFORCEMENT OTHER THAN PASSING THE LAW AND OPENING THE COURT.

SO THE ARGUMENT ON THE PART OF THE PLAINTIFFS IN THE PLAINTIFFS WHO PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE TO WOMEN IS THAT THIS IS LAW HAS SUCH A CHILLING EFFECT, IT IS A $10,000 BOUNTY AT A MINIMUM PLUS ATTORNEYS FEES FOR ANYBODY WHO SUES TO SOMEONE WOULD HAS AIDED AND ABETTED AN ABORTION AT WHICH UNDEFINED TERM OR PROVIDED AN ABORTION.

ABORTIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IN TEXAS.

AND THAT THAT IS AS IF TEXAS HAD ISSUED PASSED A LAW SAYING AB.

IS ILLEGAL AT SIX WEEKS OF PREGNANCY.

WHICH WOULD CLEARLY VIOLATE THE CURRENT SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT.

>> IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE IT INVOLVES CITIZENS ENFORCING THE LAW HERE.

PETER BREEN DOES THIS MEAN THERE'S -- THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE HEARING ON THE MERITS OF THE LAW ITSELF ONCE THE SUPREME COURT DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT THAT THIS BELONGS IN THEIR JURISDICTION?

>> AND THERE'S ALREADY A STATE COURT CASE PENDING.

IT IS A MATTER OF WHERE DO YOU HEAR IT AND WHEN?

DO YOU HEAR IT BEFOREHAND?

DO YOU GET A FEDERAL COURT HEARING?

THEY HAVE A STATE COURT ACTION PENDING AND AGAIN AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE IS NOT A JUDGE IN THE STATE COURT SYSTEM IN TEXAS THAT HAS UPHELD THE LAW.

SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN IF YOU SAID THE JUDICIARY IN TEXAS IS IGNORING SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT THEY ARE NOT SO FAR AND I WOULD SAY THIS LAW IS A SENSIBLE REGULATION IT IS A HEART BEAT BILL IS WHAT WE CALL IT.

IT WOULD PROHIBIT ABORTIONS AFTER A HEART BEAT SUPPORTED BY 52% OF TEXAS WOMEN.

58% OF LATINOS AND 51% OF MILLENNIALS IT WAS INTERESTING.

THERE WAS A POLL ON THIS.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM DOES IT SOUND CONSTITUTIONAL?

PEOPLE DESCRIBE ITS AA BOUNTY?

>> HERE IS THE THING THEY TOOK SOME THINGS THAT EXISTING STRUCTURES IN THE LAW, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, ISSUES WE ALLOW PRIVATE PEOPLE TO SUE EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE ONES HARD FOR FALSE CLAIMS AND THAT IS FRAUD AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT.

YOU CAN SUE, WE CALL IT A PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL STATUTE.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> ABORTION, THIS UNIQUENESS OF ABORTION THEY'VE BEEN TAKE -- THE PROBLEM IS IF THE SUPREME COURT HAD NOT READ ABORTION INTO THE CONSTITUTION THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED TO GO TO THESE DIFFERENT LENGTHS IN TEXAS.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT IN THE OTHER INSTANCES WHERE THERE IS AN ABILITY TO DEVELOP LAW.

>> CAROLYN?

>> I THINK THIS IS NOT AN ACCURATE ANALOGY.

THE OTHER CASES IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN EXERCISE THE INTEREST OF THE STATE THE STATE CAN STEP IN.

IN THIS INSTANCE, THE STATE IS PROHIBITED FROM STEPPING IN.

WHY?

TO PREVENT FEDERAL COURT REVIEW OF THE LAW.

IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.

IT WAS DESIGNED TO NEED TO CREATE A CHILLING EFFECT UNDER WHICH CLINICS WOULD STOP PROVIDING ABORTIONS WHICH IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN TEXAS AND PEOPLE CAN SAY WELL IT'S NOT REALLY VIOLATING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS BECAUSE THE STATE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING AND YEARS FROM NOW MAYBE THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION IN THE SUPREME COURT.

IT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE WHEN STATES THAT WE SEE THIS HAPPENING A LOT IN FACT, THE SUPREME COURT A MONTH FROM TODAY WILL BE HEARING A CASE OUT OF MISSISSIPPI, WHERE MISSISSIPPI PASSED A LAW OUTLAWING ABORTIONS AS OF 15 WEEKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO DO IN THAT CASE.

AS A PERSON, I HAVE TO ADMIT I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC.

BUT THAT AN APPROPRIATE WAY OF ASKING THE FEDERAL COURTS TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO REVISIT THIS LONGSTANDING PRECEDENT.

AS OPPOSED TO THIS UNDER HANDED OUTSOURCING OF VIOLATING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

>> MULTIPLE CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

LET'S HEAR WHAT JUSTICE KAVANAUGH HAD TO SAY ABOUT A BRIEF THAT BROUGHT UP THE SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT.

>> IT COULD BE FREE SPEECH RIGHTS, FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGIOUS RIGHTS OR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS IF THIS POSITION IS ACCEPTED THE THEORY OF THE BRIEF IS THAT IT CAN BE EASILY RIPLEY INDICATED IN STATES THAT DISFAVOR OTHER CONSTITUTION AT RIGHTS.

>> DOES THAT HAVE MERITS THAT IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO SECOND AMENDMENT CASES WHERE A STATE MIGHT SAY PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN BRING LAWSUITS AGAINST GUN OWNERS?

>> WELL, THE IDEA OF IT GENERALLY BEING A SLIPPERY SLOPE WOULD WORK IF THE OTHER AREAS WERE PLACES WHERE YOU WERE SEEING A LOT OF JUDICIAL INTERVENTION SUCH AS IN THE ABORTION SPACE THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS.

THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THAT IN THOSE OTHER SPACES.

THAT'S AS A PRACTICAL MATTER YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT DONE.

AS WELL THERE IS A JUDGE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS THAT ISSUED AN INJUNCTION AGAINST THIS LAW.

THE PROBLEM IS THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS THAT CAN BRING THE CASE BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN A CASE WHERE THE LAW WAS ALLOWED TO GO.

IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION THEY HAVE TAKEN A UNIQUE TACT.

MAYBE CONGRESS SHOULD CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW THE CHALLENGES BUT RIGHT NOW CONGRESS HASN'T AND THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS ARE HAPPY WITH THE LAW AND THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.

WHY SHOULDN'T THEY BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO?

>> THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS DO NOT GET TO DECIDE IF SOMEBODY'S RIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE VIOLATED.

IF THE SUPREME COURT DECIDES THAT IT WILL REVERSE 50 YEARS OF PRECEDENT AND OVERTURN ROE VS. WADE IT MAY DO THAT.

BUT UNTIL IT DOES THAT IT REMAINS OF THE LAW OF THE LAND THAT WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO OBTAIN MEDICAL CARE AND THE INTENT AND THE EFFECTS IS TO MAKE THAT IMPOSSIBLE.

THE REASON YOU HAVE NOT SEEN CASES GOING FORWARD IS BECAUSE CLINICS STOPPED PROVIDING ABORTIONS.

THERE IS NOBODY TO SUE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE THE DEFENDANTS -- >> I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A WEIGHTY ISSUE BUT WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

A LOT TO DISCUSSION AND PERHAPS A DECISION IN THE COMING DAYS WHETHER TO TAKE UP THIS CASE AND HEAR FURTHER ARGUMENTS.

THANKS TO CAROLYN SHAPIRO AND PETER BREEN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND UP NEXT EXAMINING THE CONDITIONS EXPERIENCED BY AFGHAN REFUGEE CHILDREN IN A LOCAL SHELTER.

SO PLEASE STAY WITH US.

>> AFGHAN CHILDREN SHELTERED AT A HEARTLAND ALLIANCE CENTER IN BOUNDVILLE ARE EXPERIENCING CHALLENGES INCLUDING SUICIDAL TENDENCIES AFTER FLEEING THEIR HOME COUNTRY DURING THE U.S. WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN ACCORDING TO A REPORT FROM ProPublica ILLINOIS SAYS SOME HEARTLAND ALLIANCE WORKERS ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS OVER CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR AND THEY ARE ILL EQUIPPED TO CARE FOR THE CHILDREN.

JOINING TO TELL US MORE IS MELISSA SANCHEZ, A REPORTER WITH ProPublica WHO COVERS IMMIGRATION AND LOW WAGE WORKER ISSUES.

MELISSA WELCOME BACK.

AND GIVE US A SENSE WHAT YOU LEARNED IS HAPPENING INSIDE THAT IMMIGRATION SHELTER?

>> SO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I STARTED HEARING FROM WORKERS AT THE SHELTER IN THE BRONZEVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY WERE OVERWHELMED AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AFGHAN EVACUEES WHO STARTED ARRIVING TWO MONTHS AGO.

AND WHAT THEY WERE DESCRIBING WAS SIGNIFICANT LANGUAGE AND CULTURAL BARRIERS THAT MADE IT HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE KIDS COMING IN WITH TRAUMA, HARMING THEMSELVES CUTTING THEMSELVES, WERE HURTING OTHER KIDS, HURTING STAFF, TRYING TO RUN AWAY.

REQUIRED HOSPITALIZATIONS, PSYCHIATRIC ISSUES AND THE STAFF WAS NEVER SEEN FOLKS SO FRUSTRATED AND UNABLE TO RESPOND THE WAY THEY WANTED TO.

PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE KIDS DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

>> AND FOR REFERENCE HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>> WE GOT UPDATED NUMBERS AT THIS SHELTER THAT HEART LAND RUNS THERE ARE 43, HARTLAND HAS FOUR SHELTERS OPEN IN CHICAGO.

AND THEY HAVE 77 AFGHAN EVACUEES THERE.

AND TO GET THE NATIONAL UNDERSTANDING LIKE HEARTLAND HAS MORE KIDS FROM AFGHANISTAN RIGHT NOW THAN ANY OTHER SHELTER ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY A TOTAL OF 185 TODAY.

>> AND FROM WHAT THE STAFF HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT KIND OF TRAUMA WHAT HAVE THE CHILDREN BEEN THROUGH?

>> I MEAN, THE U.S. HAS JUST PULLED OUT AFTER TWO DECADES OF WAR THERE.

SO THERE'S PART OF THAT THE WAR PIECE.

AND THEN AFTER THE PULLOUT YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE TRYING TO LEAVE AFGHANISTAN AS THE TALIBAN ARE TAKING OVER.

AND CHILDREN SOME WITH PARENTS SOME WITHOUT PARENTS MADE THEIR WAY TO THE AIRPORT.

ALONG THE WAY THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TALIBAN CHECKPOINTS THAT SEPARATED CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS OR THE ADULT THEY CAME WITH.

AT THE AIRPORT SIMILAR SEPARATIONS AND KIDS WOUND UP [AUDIO INTERRUPTION] KIDS WOUND UP IN AIRPLANES WITHOUT ADULTS OR PARENTS.

AND SOME OF THEM ENDED UP SPENDING TIME AT A MILITARY BASE IN GERMANY AND MADE THEIR WAY HERE AND HERE TO THE SHELTER.

THEY'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE SEPARATION LEAVING THEIR HOMELAND AND A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING NEXT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS RIGHT NOW IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE WORKERS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM BECAUSE NOBODY SPEAKS THE CHILDREN'S LANGUAGES.

FOR A LOT SEPARATING FROM A PARENT BACK HOME AND DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE THEY CAN BE PLACED WITH THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND THAT IS CAUSING MORE ANXIETY AND STRESS.

>> HEART LAND ALLIANCE HAS ISSUED A STATEMENT AND IT READS IN PART... >> MELISSA, HOW WOULD YOU SAY THE STAFF ARE WORKING THROUGH THIS?

AND DO THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED?

>> I THINK HEARTLAND MADE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I LEARNED THAT WORKERS GOT HAND-HELD DEVICES THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THEM IN ENGLISH, IT WILL SHOOT OUT THE TRANSLATIONS.

THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS.

BUT SOME OF THE KIDS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MORE THAN TWO MONTHS.

I'M REALLY DELIGHTED THERE'S SOME CHANGES BUT IT'S BEEN A STRESSFUL COUPLE MONTHS FOR THE KIDS AND STAFF.

STAFF ARE STILL OVERWHELMED.

I'M HEARING AFTER EVER SINCE THE STORY PUBLISHED I'VE HEARD FROM WORKERS TELLING ME MORE OF THE SAME.

I THINK IT'S HEART LAND IS A HARD SPOT.

I DON'T KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT MICHIGAN THERE IS ANOTHER EMERGENCY SITE TAKING IN CHILDREN FROM AFGHANISTAN SIMILAR KIDS.

AND THE SHELTER IS DIFFERENT THAN HEARTLAND LIKE A BIG FORMER NURSING HOME, INSTITUTIONAL FEELING.

THE OTHER PLACE IS MORE OF A CAMPUS RESIDENTIAL COTTAGES AND IMMIGRATION LAWYER TOLD ME IS THAT EVERY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL COTTAGE HAS AT LEAST ONE PERSON ON-SITE WITH AN INTERPRETER WHO SPEAKS THE LANGUAGES.

AND WHEN I TOLD THE WORKERS HERE ABOUT THAT THEY WERE JUST SO JEALOUS THAT WAS THE ONE THING THEY WISHED THAT COULD BE HERE.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT IS ON HEARTLAND.

IT IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE IN THE CASE OF THE OFFICE OF OUR FUTURE RESETTLEMENT OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

SO I THINK THE GOVERNMENT HAS SHOWN IF THEY CAN DO THIS RIGHT THEY CAN DO IT BETTER AS A MICHIGAN CASE I WILL GREATS WHERE THE LAWYERS ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE DEALING WITH HERE.

THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY THAT THINGS CAN GET IMPROVED HERE.

CLEARLY THE LANGUAGE ISSUE IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.

>> OBVIOUSLY.

AND HEARTLAND ALLIANCE SAID THE SHELTER IS RECRUITING THE STAFF THAT SPEAK THE CHILDREN'S LANGUAGES BUT THE PROCESS IS DELAYED DUE TO VETTING AND BACKGROUND CHECKS: HEARTBREAKING CASE I'M SURE WILL YOU REMAIN ON IT.

MELISSA SANCHEZ AT ProPublica ILLINOIS THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> AND PARIS WE TOSS IT BACK TO YOU.

>> AND MUCH MORE AHEAD ON THE PROGRAM INCLUDING A LOOK AT HOW CHICAGO'S ART SCENE IS RECOVERING WHEN WE TALK TO THE CITY'S OUTGOING CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMISSIONER.

TODAY IS NOVEMBER FIRST, THE START OF NATIVE-AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND IN EVANSTON ONE MAN IS KEEPING A NATIVE-AMERICAN TRADITION ALIVE.

"CHICAGO TONIGHT'S" EVAN GARCIA VISITED NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY TO LEARN ABOUT BIRCHBARK CANOE BUILDING.

[♪♪♪] >> NEVER FORGOT THE.

>> WYANE VALLIERE IS A BIRCHBARK CANOE BUILDER HE IS THE MASTER OF WHAT SOME MIGHT CALL A LOST ART.

>> THIS IS A BIRCHBARK CANOE.

AND THIS STYLE OF BIRCHBARK CANOE COMES FROM THE ANISHINAABE I AM OJIBWE FROM WISCONSIN.

AND PEOPLE CALL US CHIPPEWAS.

THIS CANOE IS MADE OUT OF ALL NATURAL MATERIALS FROM NORTHERN WISCONSIN.

>> AS NORTHWESTERN'S ARTIST IN RESIDENCE, WYANE VALLIERE BUILT THIS CANOE WITH STUDENTS IN TWO WEEKS.

DIFFERENT WOOD WAS HARVESTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FROM THE SPRUCE ROOTS STITCHING TO THE CEDAR RIBS TO THE BIRCHBARK SIDES COVERED IN PINE PITCH.

>> FINGERPRINT IN THERE.

>> WYANE VALLIERE SAYS HE IS ONE OF SIX REMAINING BIRCHBARK CANOE BUILDERS AMONG THE ANISHINAABE PEOPLE.

>> THEY ARE MADE BY HAND.

WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF TWO BY FOUR JIGS AND CORDLESS DRILLS BUT OTHER THAN THAT ALL THE WORK IS STILL THERE.

AND BEING A CANOE BUILDER IT IS A GREAT PRIVILEGE BECAUSE YOU GET TO GO ON SOME DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS ON OUR GRANDMOTHER.

OUR GRANDMOTHER IS THE EARTH.

WE CALL HER THE EARTH.

WE SHE IS MUCH OLDER THAN A MOTHER EARTH.

[♪♪♪] >> ON A STORMY MORNING AT NORTHWESTERN, VALLIERE AND OTHERS SET THE BIRCHBARK CANOE ON LAKE MICHIGAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN 400 YEARS.

BY PRESERVING THE ART OF BIRCHBARK CANOE BUILDING, WYANE VALLIERE HOPES TO PASS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE EARTH.

>> SO IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN HEALTHY FORESTS AND CLEAN WATER BECAUSE WITHOUT EITHER, NOBODY IS GOING TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET.

[♪♪♪] >> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M EVAN GARCIA.

[♪♪♪] >> THE OJIBWE ARE PART OF THE ANISHINAABE A COLLECTIVE OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE LIVING IN THE GREAT LAKES REGION.

AND WYANE VALLIERE IS AN OJIBWE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE TEACHER AT LAC DU FLAMBEAU SCHOOL IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN.

THE PROGRAM IS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY'S CENTER FOR NATIVE-AMERICAN AND INDIGENOUS RESEARCH.

AND YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE.

>> AND STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT"... CHICAGO'S MILLION DOLLAR LISTINGS.

OCTOBER SEES A RECORD NUMBER OF HOMES SOLD ON THE HIGH-END OF THE MARKET.

THAT AND MORE FROM CRAIN'S.

>> SCIENTISTS ARE WARNING OF A LOOMING CLIMATE CATASTROPHE IF COUNTRIES CONTINUE TO BURN FOSSIL FUELS.

THE EFFORT TO INVEST IN A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

HOMEGROWN PITCHFORK CHICAGO HOLDS A RICH ARTS AND CULTURE LEGACY.

WE TALK WITH THE OUTGOING COMMISSIONER.

FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES... >> FORMER CHICAGO ALDERMAN EDWARD FAST EDDIE IS HEADING TO FEDERAL PRISON.

A JUDGE ORDERED THE 83-YEAR-OLD TO REPORT TO A MEDICAL IF FACILITY TO SERVE AN 18 MONTH SENTENCE HE WAS CONVICTED OF TAX EVASION BUT BECAUSE OF HEALTH ISSUES AND THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC HIS REPORT DATE WAS DELAYED UNTIL A VACCINE WAS AVAILABLE.

>> THE NUMBER TWO IN THE CITY'S WATCHDOG OFF RESIGNS IN THE HOPES THAT SHE CAN BE FAMED THE TOP DOG.

DEBORAH WITZBURG RESIGNED TODAY AS DEPUTY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT IS 15 DAYS AFTER INSPECTOR GENERAL FERGUSON LEFT THE OFFICE.

AND INSTEAD OF TAPPING HER TO LEAD THE OFFICE, MAYOR LIGHTFOOT TAPPED WILLIAM MARBACK WHO SERVED AS DEPUTY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR INVESTIGATIONS.

THAT MOVE SURPRISED SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO HAD EXPECTED DEBORAH WITZBURG NOT WILLIAM MARBACK.

WTIZBURG SAYS HER FINAL DAY IN OFFICE WOULD BE NOVEMBER 12TH AND YOU CAN READ MORE ON OUR WEBSITE.

>> SWEEPING CONSPIRACY CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST GANG LEADERS IN AUSTIN.

PROSECUTORS CHARGED 13 ALLEGED LEADERS OF THE VICE LORDS WICKED TOWN FACTION WITH 19 MURDERS, 19 ATTEMPTED MURDERS AND NUMEROUS ARMED ROBBERIES AND ASSAULTS DATING BACK TO JULY 2,000.

THE WICKED TOWN MEMBERS THREATENED, INTIMIDATED AND PROMOTED THEMSELVES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> THE CTA IS CELEBRATING THE CHICAGO SKY'S WNBA CHAMPIONSHIP.

THE TRAIN IS WRAPPED IN THE TEAM'S COLORS AND DEBUT ON THE GREEN LINE WHERE THE TEAM WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

THE SKY TRAIN WILL BE IN SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> A MAJOR RANSOMWARE ATTACK AT A LARGE CHICAGO FINANCIAL COMPANY, A TENTATIVE DEAL IS STRUCK AFTER 10,000 JOHN DEERE EMPLOYEES WENT ON STRIKE AND OCTOBER SEES RECORD SALES ON THE HIGH-END OF THE CHICAGO MARKET.

HERE IS CRAIN'S BUSINESS EDITOR ANN DWYER.

GREAT TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS.

A RANSOMWARE ATTACK AT CNA FINANCIAL DOWNTOWN.

TELL US WHAT WAS COMPROMISED?

>> WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE 75,000 PEOPLE OR MORE MAY HAVE SEEN THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND EVEN IN SOME CASES THEIR PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION, PARIS, BE RELEASED OUT ON TO THE WORLDWIDE WEB THROUGH THIS HACK.

THIS SHOWS THAT THE NIGHTMARE OF RANSOMWARE CORPORATE HACKS IS STILL RIPPLING THROUGH THE U.S. ECONOMY.

THE CNA HACK WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN CORPORATE HISTORY.

NOW CNA IS TRYING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED.

THEY REPORTED TODAY THEY ARE GOING TO BE OFFERING TWO YEARS OF FREE CREDIT REPORTING SERVICES, ET CETERA.

BUT MEANWHILE CNA DISCLOSED TODAY THAT THEIR OWN CYBER INSURANCE IS NOT GOING TO COVER THE COST OF THIS HACK WHICH ACTUALLY HAPPENED BACK IN MARCH.

THEY ARE DISCLOSING SOME OF THE DETAILS NOW.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE, PARIS, WHAT WE FIRST THOUGHT WAS A HACK THAT MADE LIFE DIFFICULT FOR CNA, HAD FAR WIDER RAMIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO DO BUSINESS WITH THAT COMPANY.

>> A QUAGMIRE RIGHT NOW.

>> QUAGMIRE MAY BE AVERTED OUT NEAR THE QUAD CITIES.

10,000 JOHN DEERE EMPLOYEES STRIKE A DEAL WITH THE COMPANY.

UAW HAD BEEN ON STRIKE.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST STRIKE, PARIS, THAT HAPPENED AT DEER SINCE 1986.

AND THE OUTCOME AT LEAST IN THIS TENTATIVE DEAL TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT HOW MUCH MUSCLE ORGANIZED LABOR HAS NOW DAYS WITH CORPORATE PROFITS BEING SO HIGH AND ACCESS TO SKILLED WORKERS BEING SO TIGHT.

THE UNION GEORGE ITS AKERS MANAGED TO EXTRACT A 10% PAY HIKE OUT OF JOHN DEERE IN THIS DEAL.

THAT'S VERSUS THE 5 OR 6% THAT THEY WERE OFFERED BEFORE THE STRIKE BEGAN A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS IN THE DEAL.

ONE THING THAT IS WORTH CALLING OUT, IS THAT THE DEAL WILL CALL FOR NO MORE TWO-TIER SYSTEM.

IN OTHER WORDS ANYONE THAT IS HIRED AFTER 1997 WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE SAME BENEFITS PACKAGE WHICH IS REMARKABLE THAT TWO TIER SYSTEM HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN HOLD AT BIG MANUFACTURERS FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES.

THE RANK-AND-FILE WORKERS WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD THEY VOTE ON THE DEAL TOMORROW.

>> UAW EXERTING MUSCLE.

AND BACK IN CHICAGO, 74 HOMES IN CHICAGO WERE SOLD AT MORE THAN $4 MILLION APIECE.

THAT IS A HIGH NUMBER.

WITH WHAT'S BEHIND THIS SURGE HERE IN THE HIGH-END OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET?

>> WELL IT'S NOT JUST A HIGH NUMBER.

OUR RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE REPORTER DENNIS WHO LIVES FOR THIS SORT OF THING, TELLS ME IT'S A RECORD.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THIS MANY $4 MILLION PLUS SALES IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO IN THIS TIME PERIOD EVER.

AND WHAT THE REALTORS WHO WORK IN THE UPPER STRATA OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET ARE TELLING US IS THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE FACTORS DRIVING THIS; ONE, OF COURSE, IS THAT CHICAGO HIGH-END REAL ESTATE IS A RELATIVE BARGAIN COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES AROUND THE U.S. AND AROUND THE WORLD.

PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOPPING FOR THOSE $5 MILLION PLACES ARE SEEING CHICAGO AS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO PLUNK DOWN MONEY.

ANOTHER THING THAT IS DRIVING IT, PARIS, IS THE STOCK MARKET BOOM.

IT'S CREATED A LOT OF WEALTH TO SPEND AMONG PEOPLE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE BIG PORTFOLIOS AND ALL OF THAT MEANS THAT SALES OF $4 MILLION UP ARE HOT AND THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE HOT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EYE POPPING PRICE POINTS UP TO $12.5 MILLION.

ONE NOTE THAT DENNIS SHARES IS THAT THE ST. REGIS IS A REAL FOCAL PART OF A LOT OF THIS ACTION.

I BELIEVE THAT EACH OF THE $4 MILLION PLUS SALES THAT TOOK PLACE THIS YEAR WERE IN THAT BUILDING.

>> AND AS I UNDERSTAND, ANN, THE FORMER TRIBUNE TOWER AS WELL.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING WELL IN THAT END OF THE MARKET AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR THANKS TO ANN DWYER.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND NOW BRANDIS WE TOSS IT BACK TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WORLD LEADERS NOTABLY NOT CHINA'S PRESIDENT 0 OR RUSSIA'S VLADIMIR PUTIN ARE MEETING IN SCOTLAND TO DISCUSS HOW TO AVERT A GLOBAL CLIMATE CATASTROPHE.

THE MEETING IS BILLED AS HUMANITY'S LAST CHANCE TO TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

HERE IS A LITTLE OF WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAD TO SAY.

>> WE'RE STANDING AT AN INFLICTION POINT IN WORLD HISTORY.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVEST IN OURSELVES, AND BUILD AN EQUITABLE CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE AND IN THE PROCESS, CREATE MILLIONS OF GOOD PAYING JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE WORLD.

>> JOINING US NOW ARE THREE PEOPLE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN AN EFFORT TO INVEST IN A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

JOHN PALFREY PRESIDENT OF THE McARTHUR FOUNDATION THE 88.2 BILLION FOUNDATION SAYS IT'S SHIFTING INVESTMENTS AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS.

STEPH TA THE PROFESSOR OF LAW AN APPELLATE ATTORNEY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION IN THE U.S. JUSTICE.

AND KATHARINE WYATT CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER AT LOYOLA UNIVERSITY AND ANNOUNCED IT WILL DIVEST FROM FOSSIL FUEL INVESTMENTS.

WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

JOHN PALFREY WE KNOW THE McARTHUR FOUNDATION ANNOUNCED IT'S DIVESTING FROM FOSSIL FUELS IN SEPTEMBER HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THIS DECISION?

>> WELL, I AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT THAT WE ARE ON THE PRECIPICE RELATIVE TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND WE NEED TO BUILD A MORE EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE FUTURE AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO USE ALL OF THE RESOURCES AT OUR DISPOSAL.

FOR MANY YEARS MACARTHUR MADE THE LARGEST AREA OF GRANT MAKING CLIMATE CHANGE AND EQUITY AND WE REALIZED WE COULD DO MORE BY DIVESTING OUR FUNDS AND INVESTING FUNDS IN OTHER FORMS OF CLEAN ENERGY AND IT IS A DIVEST, INVEST STRATEGY.

>> IT IS ONE THING FOR AN INSTITUTION TO MAKE THIS DECISION BUT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT DECISION.

HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT KRUTNIZING INVESTMENTS TO IDENTIFY FOSSIL FUEL CONNECTIONS?

>> SURE, WELL THERE ARE A LOT OF STRUCTURAL CONSIDERATIONS WHEN YOU BREAKDOWN THE PORTFOLIO INVESTMENTS.

WE USE DIFFERENT VEHICLES TO ACCESS INVESTMENT STRATEGIES AND THERE ARE VARYING DEGREES OF CONTROL WE HAVE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN CONTROL.

AND SOME THAT WE CAN'T.

I BREAK IT DOWN TO THE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES.

WE HAVE DIRECT INVESTMENTS IN LIQUID AND MARKETABLE SECURITIES OR FUNDS WHICH WE CAN SELL.

WE HAVE DIRECT INVESTMENTS IN I WILL LIQUID AND PRIVATE FUNDS WHICH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WINDING DOWN AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WE ARE NOT MAKING FURTHER COMMITMENTS.

AND THE THIRD IS THAT WE HAVE INDIRECT EXPOSURE THROUGH COMMINGLED FUNDS.

FOR EXAMPLE INDEXED FUNDS OR ACTIVELY MANAGED FUNDS.

SO WE PLAN TO MONITOR THE MATERIALITY OF THESE EXPOSURES AND EVALUATE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

AND THIS IS WHERE OUR POSITIVE LENS OF ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL AND GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK COMES IN.

WE PLAN TO MEASURE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PORTFOLIO AND ENGAGE WITH OUR ACTIVE MANAGERS ON ESG ISSUES AND WE INVEST WITH MANAGER WHERE FOSSIL FUEL EXPOSURE IS NOT A MAJOR PART OF THEIR INVESTMENT STRATEGY ANYWAY.

>> AND STEPH TA, YOU ARE SUPPORTING AN EFFORT TO GET THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN FOUNDATION TO DISCLOSE HOW MUCH OF THE $3.5 BILLION ENDOWMENT IS INVESTED IN FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES AND DEVELOPMENTAL TERNE ACTIVES.

HOW TRANSPARENT L ARE THE [INAUDIBLE] >> IT IS NOT TRANSPARENT WHY WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON THE EFFORT FROM THE FACULTY SIDE AND THE STAFF SIDE AND THE STUDENT SIDE.

ALL OF US PASSED RESOLUTIONS.

SUGGESTING BOTH DIVESTMENT AND ALSO JUST FUTURE TRANSPARENCY AND THAT HAS NOT YET FOLLOWED BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS IN TERMS OF HAVING FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ALUMNI FOUNDATION.

>> AND HOW HAS THE LEADERSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY AND THE FOUNDATION RESPONDING TO YOUR EFFORTS?

>> THE LEADERSHIP AT THE WISCONSIN SYSTEM HAS BEEN GREAT.

WELL AT LEAST WISCONSIN MADISON ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HAD A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP WITH OUR CHANCELLOR LEAVING.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

WISCONSIN ALUMNI FOUNDATION THERE'S MIXED APPROACHES.

THAT IS A LOT OF THE EFFORT THAT IS GOING ON.

IT'S START OF TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH WISCONSIN ILLINOIS FOUNDATION WAS ACCEPTING OF THE FULL FACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE BUT NOT ENTIRELY RECOGNIZING SOME OF THE RISKS INVOLVED IN FOSSIL FUEL INVESTMENTS.

>> LAST WEEK, THE C.E.O.S OF SEVERAL OIL COMPANIES TESTIFIED IN A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ACCUSED OF DELIBERATELY LYING TO PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THEY KNEW HOW FOSSIL FUELS WERE CONTRIBUTING TO GLOBAL WARMING.

HERE IS WHAT DARREN WOOD HAD TO SAY.

>> EXXON MOBILE HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN POLICY DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT FOR YEARS.

OUR VIEWS ON POLICIES AND IMPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN GUIDED BY OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCIENCE.

>> AND STEPH TA STICKING WITH YOU FOR A MINUTE, ARE YOU A LEGAL EXPERT WELL VERSED IN ENVIRONMENTAL LAW.

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT BIG OIL COMPANIES AND ENERGY COMPANIES COULD BE HELD CULPABLE IF PROVEN TO HAVE LIED ABOUT WHAT THEY KNEW?

>> I WILL BREAK THIS DOWN.

IN GENERAL IN TERMS OF FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES HELD CULLABLE FOR FOSSIL FUEL EMISSIONS IT'S HAPPENING MUCH MORE IN EUROPE THAN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THE FINANCIAL RISK OF INVESTMENT ARE GLOBAL COMES FROM IS LIABILITIES IN THE EU MOSTLY.

BUT WITH INTERSECTING WITH THE UNITED STATES WITH SPECIFIC ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD THAT IS OPEN, RIGHT?

A LOT OF THE CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRIES ARE HONING IN ON SPECIFIC INSTANCES OF FRAUD AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

>> JOHN PALFREY BACK TO YOU.

WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU HAVE A UTILITY THAT MIGHT HAVE BOTH GREEN ENERGY AND FOSSIL FUEL ASSETS.

DO YOU DIVEST OR DO YOU STAY?

>> THAT A GREAT QUESTION.

ONE THING WITH MACK ARTHUR WE DON'T INVEST DIRECTLY IN COMPANIES WE INVEST THROUGH FUNDS.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO SAY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BROAD INDYSYS WE ARE BUYING AN INDEX THAT IS PULLING OUT OF IT COMPANIES THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES.

PARTICULARLY HOLDING FOSSIL FUEL RESERVES.

WE ARE SAYING TO ALL OF THE FUND MANAGERS WE DO NOT WISH TO BE IN THESE COMPANIES.

AND WE ARE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HOLD A SMALL NUMBER OF DIRECT INVESTMENTS IN FUNDS THAT HAVE OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION THOSE WE'RE SELLING OVERTIME.

NOW IS THE TIME TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF DIVESTMENTS IN DIRTY ENERGY AND INVEST IN CLEAN ENERGY AND FOCUS EQUITY EXPOSURE IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL AS TO THINK ABOUT EQUITY FOR THE SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

IN GENERAL, ERR ON THE SIDE OF AIMING FOR A MUCH CLEANER ECONOMY.

>> AND KATHARINE WYATT HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS PROCESS OF DIVEST.

COULD TAKE?

>> WELL, THERE ARE STEPS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN.

IN TERMS OF THE LIQUID INVESTMENTS THERE ARE A FUND THAT WE HAVE EXITED THAT HAD A DIRECT EXPOSURE TO FOSSIL FUELS.

AND FRANKLY THAT WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF THE FUND IN OUR INFLATION HEDGING BUCKET WE HAVE EXITED THAT INVESTMENT.

FOR THE OTHER MARKETABLE SECURITIES THAT WE COULD READILY SELL WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING IT IN AN EXPEDIENT MANNER BUT SOMETHING THAT IS FINANCIALLY PRUDENT.

WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WORKING WITH THE PORTFOLIO MANAGER ON ESTABLISHING A REASONABLE TIME FRIEND TO EXIT THE INVESTMENTS.

ON THE PRIVATE SIDE THESE ARE LONG LIFE PARTNERSHIPS WINDING DOWN.

YOU KNOW IT COULD TAKE FIVE TO 10 YEARS.

HOWEVER WITH NO NEW COMMITMENTS THE EXPOSURE WILL QUICKLY BECOME IMMATERIAL.

>> AND JOHN PALFREY BACK TO YOU, HOW EASY IS IT TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY OR NEUTRAL INVESTMENTS?

>> SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT, I THINK, FOR THE PLUS SIDE OF THE EQUATION THAT THE INVEST SIDE AND WE THINK OF THAT AS IMPACT INVESTMENTS WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE POSITIVE IMPACT ON SOCIETY VERSUS RETURN SECOND AND AS WELL AS ONES THAT ARE RETURN FIRST.

THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES IF YOU ARE NOT FINDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT LOOKING HARD ENOUGH OR PUTTING UP THE FLAG AND SAYING YOU ARE OPEN TO THAT.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO DO THIS IN ALL THE WAYS WE SPEND OUR MONEY ACROSS THE FOUNDATION OR UNIVERSITIES SUCH A PROCUREMENT.

>> THANKS TO JOHN PALFREY, KATHARINE WYATT AND STEPH TA FOR JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

>> UP NEXT, XIAOLIN HOU ARE CHICAGO'S ARTS AND CULTURAL SCENES FARING AMID THE PANDEMIC?

FIRST, A LOOK AT THE WEATHER... A >> FROM BIRTHING JAZZ, GOSPEL BLUES AND HOUSE MUSIC TO HOSTING LARGE FESTIVALS LIKE LOLLAPALOOZA THERE IS A LOT TO BE EMBRACED.

COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS MARK KELLY WAS IN CHARGE OF FOSTERING THE DEVELOPMENT OF CHICAGO'S ARTS AND CULTURE FOR FIVE-AND-A-HALF YEAR.

HIS LAST DAY WAS FRIDAY AND THE OUTGOING COMMISSIONER JOINS US NOW.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR TENURE AND RETIREMENT.

LET'S START WITH THE REACTION THAT THE ARTS AND CULTURE SCENE HAS HAD AS COVID STARTED TO SUBSIDE.

HOW ARE STAGES AND VENUES DOING NOW?

ARE THERE ANY CASUALTIES?

>> THERE ARE SURELY GOING TO BE CASUALTIES.

ONE OF THE MOST DEVASTATED INDUSTRIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WAS ARTS AND CULTURE.

THE MUSIC CLUBS THE THEATERS OUR DANCE PERFORMANCES ALL ARE JUST COMING BACK.

THERE'S SOME ENCOURAGING SIGNS.

BUT THERE'S STILL A LONG WAY TO GO.

AND THAT'S WHY FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, STEVE CASE HAS BEEN TRYING TO ASSEMBLE A NUMBER OF RESOURCES TO HELP THIS VITAL PART OF THE CHICAGO SCENE.

>> AND PART OF THE RESOURCES IS PUBLIC FUNDING.

AND UNDER YOUR WATCH THE CITY HAS BOOSTED FUNDING FOR ARTS AND CULTURE BY $26 MILLION.

TELL US WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY GOES TOWARD?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, PARIS, IF YOU ADD IT UP IT'S OVER $100 MILLION THAT WE'VE ASSEMBLED BEYOND THE ANNUAL BUDGET AN UNPRESS DEPARTMENTED NUMBER.

BUT -- UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER.

THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM OUR CULTURAL GRANTS FUND WAS $3 MILLION.

NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE $20 MILLION T WILL MEAN WE WILL HAVE ONE OF THE TOP CULTURAL GRANTS PROGRAMS IN THE CITY.

OUR PUBLIC ART FUNDS BACK FIVE YEARS AGO IT WAS 100,000 A YEAR.

GOING FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE $3 MILLION A YEAR IN PUBLIC ART TO OFFER UP TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF NEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE CULTURAL VITALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

CHICAGO PRESENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS, AND ARTISTS RESPONSE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CHICAGO PARK DISTRICT AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO ANIMATE THE CULTURAL CENTERS EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND LARGELY ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF NECESSARY FUNDS COMING FORWARD TO PUSH ARTS AND CULTURE FORWARD IN THE CITY.

>> THAT IS A BIG NUMBER.

$100 MILLION CAN THAT NUMBER BE SUSTAINED IN THE COMING YEARS TO KEEP UP THE INVESTMENTS IN THE PROGRAMS?

>> WELL, SO THAT FUNDING IS COMING FROM A NUMBER OF SOURCES.

$16 MILLION OF THAT IS FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN SO IT'S TRUE THAT THAT MONEY WON'T CONTINUE TWO YEARS FROM NOW.

BUT THE REST OF THAT FUNDING IT'S FOUNDATIONS, IT'S OUR FELLOW CITY AGENCIES JOINING US IN PARTNERSHIP.

THE PUBLIC ART FUNDS ARE COMING FROM THE CITY'S CAPITAL FUND FOR THE FIRST TIME PUBLIC ART HAS BEEN DEEMED PART OF THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT IS NOT AN EXTRA.

IT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO BUILDING PUBLIC ART INTO THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE GOES FORWARD.

THE CULTURAL CENTERS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO LIFE ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDE THE TUND FUNDING COMES FROM TIF AND THE PARK DISTRICT CAPITAL FUND.

THERE IS A VARIETY OF RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BROUGHT TOGETHER.

>> AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CULTURAL CENTER IS PART OF YOUR LEGACY, THE CHICAGO CULTURAL CENTER DOWNTOWN MAJOR RESTORATION AND TALK ABOUT WHY THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?

>> WELL, THE ARM OF THE REPUBLIC IS A TIFFANY MASTERPIECE AND LOST IN TIME SO IT'S BEING RESTORED AS YOU CAN IMAGINE OVER $15 MILLION DONATION AN ANONYMOUS DONOR.

SO WE'LL RESTORE IT AND WE'LL RESTORE A MONUMENT TO THE DEFEAT OF THE SLAVE OKRASSY.

IT WAS THE UNION SOLDIERS BLACK AND WHITE.

THE 31 BATTLES THE MAJOR BATTLES THEY WON ARE IN THE MARBLE IN THAT ROOM.

IT'S EXCITING TO BRING THAT ROOM FORWARD A NEW MISSION FOR THE CHICAGO CULTURAL CENTER TO SET THE CULTURAL COMPASS FOR OUR VISITORS AND CONNECT THIS CULTURAL CENTER DOWNTOWN TO ALL THE CULTURAL CENTERS ACROSS THE CITY.

IT'S VERY EXCITING.

>> ANOTHER HUGE PART OF THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE IN CHICAGO MUSIC BIRTHPLACE OF ELECTRIC BLUES, JAZZ, GOSPEL.

HOUSE MUSIC.

WHAT DOES THE CITY NEED TO DO TO CELEBRATE THAT IN THE WAY THAT MEMPHIS CELEBRATES BLUES OR NASHVILLE CELEBRATES COUNTRY HERITAGE?

>> WELL IT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND WE'VE MADE A HECK OF A LOT OF PROGRESS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THIS IS THE YEAR CHICAGO MUSIC IT WAS TO BE 2020.

MOVE TO DO INTO 2021.

BROUGHT $5 MILFORD IN SUPPORT FOR -- $5 MILLION FORWARD IN SUPPORT 4 OUR MUSICIANS AND CLUBS AND WE HAVE THE FIRST BRAND, MUSIC IN THE KEY OF CHICAGO.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH TWO CHICAGO WITH ALL OUR PARTNERS TO PUSH OUT THE WORD CHICAGO IS ONE OF THE GREAT MUSIC CAPITALS AND IF YOU LOVE MUSIC YOU COME TO OUR CLUBS AND FESTIVALS BUT THERE IS NOT ONE SOUND IN CHICAGO IT IS ALL THE SOUNDS AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE CITY GREAT AND ALL OF THAT WORK AND THE CHICAGO TUNE FESTIVAL BRINGING THAT SPOTLIGHT TO MUSIC THAT WILL CONTINUE.

>> NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

PAN IMPLEMENT OF SOUNDS.

PAN OWE IMPLEMENT OF SOUNDS.

>> WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU MARK KELLY?

>> SATURDAY I WAS NO LONGER THE COMMISSIONER BUT I HAD A RING MASTER OUTFIT AS THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR I WAS JOINING EVERYONE, MAYOR LIGHTFOOT ON STATE STREET WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AS ARTS GROUPS OF CHICAGO FROM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD MARCHED DOWN STATE STREET.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE OUT THERE.

I'M GOING TO BE A FRIEND OF THE ARTS AND HELPING EVERY WAY THAT I CAN.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE LIKE ALL OF US, I GET TO ENJOY THE POWER OF THEATRE, DANCE, MUSIC OUR MUSEUMS OUR PUBLIC ART OUR ARCHITECTURE.

I GET TO BE ANOTHER CITIZEN ENJOYING THE GLORIES OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY SO MANY PEOPLE.

>> NO DOUBT WE'RE ALL LUCKY TO ENJOY THOSE THINGS IN OUR FAIR CITY.

THANKS TO MARK KELLY THANKS AND CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, PARIS.

>> AND WE'RE BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT.

>> JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M. HOW COVID-19 VACCINES MIGHT PROTECT PEOPLE AGAINST OTHER CORONAVIRUSES LIKE THE COMMON COLD.

>> AND MEET THE NEW DIRECTORS OF STEPPENWOLF THEATRE AND TOUR THE NEW BUILDING.

AND WE LEAVE YOU WITH MORE FROM THE OJIBWE.

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.

>> I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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