Donnybrook
November 16, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 66 | 28m 12sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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November 16, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 66 | 28m 12sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Bill McClellan, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NIN >> SEWER RATES MIGHT BE GOING UP, AMONG THE TOPICS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ON THIS EDITION O DONNYBROOK.
LET'S MEET THE ANALYSTS AND THEN DIG INTO THE SUBJECTS.
HEY, LET'S SAY HELLO ONCE AGAIN TO SARAH.
SHE'S TH SITTING IN FOR WENDY WIESE WHO IS TAKIN BILL MCCLELLAN FROM STL TODA DOT COM AND ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.
RIVERFRONT TIMES, AND ALSO RAY HARD MAN'S ST. LOUIS - HARTMANN'S ST. LOUIS LIVING.
AND MR THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, AND RAY, I KNOW IT'S.
>> INSIDER.
LIVING.
I'M STILL >> ALL RIGHT.
YOU ARE WITH THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.
&g (LAUGHTER).
&g >> ALL RIGHT.
START.
WEEK'S PROGRAM, THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT DECIDED TO PUT TWO BALLOT MEASU AGENDA FOR VOTERS TO CONSIDER.
ONE HAS TO DO WITH WASTEWATER AND WOULD INCREASE THE RATES 32% FROM ABOUT 57 TO $75 A MONTH, NOT PER YEAR.
THEN THE AND TO IMPROVE THAT, THERE WOULD BE ABOUT $2 TAX PER MONTH FOR A HOME THAT'S WORTH $176,000 FOR ABOUT $25 A YEAR.
NOW, THIS IS A TIME WHEN WE KNOW THAT MOST AMERICANS DON'T HAVE $600 FOR AN EMERGENCY.
THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT ST. LOUISIANS ARE GOING TO BE FORKING OVER.
APPROVE IT?
SHOULD THEY APPROVE TH INCREASES?
BY MY HOUSE.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT STORMS AND THE STORMWATER GOES BY.
IT'S KIND OF FASCINATING.
YOU KNOW, SO I'M CLOSE TO THIS CREEK ISSUE LITERALLY.
AND I KNOW THIS IS A DANGEROUS GAME TO PLAY, BU VOTE NO ON THAT HIGHEST RATE INCREASE, BECAUSE I THINK THEY WILL MYSTERIOUSLY FIND A WAY TO NOT CHARGE PEOPLE THIS MUCH MONEY.
CUTTING TAXES FOR SENIORS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THIS AND THEY CAN'T AFF AND YOU KNOW TO LET THIS FLY?
I DON'T THINK SO I THINK SOMETHIN THAT THE RATE WOULD NOT GO UP THAT MUCH.
BUT I WOULD CALL THEIR >> I THINK THAT COULD BE CATASTROPHIC.
OF ALL THE BLUFFS ONE ON WATER FOR YOUR HOME AND YOUR STORMWATER, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HA GEEZ, I HATE TO PAY MORE, BUT I HAVE TO.
I DON'T WANT TO -- I'M SITTING THERE WITH NOTHING.
I DON'T WANT TO >> I'M KINDING LEADING TOWARDS WHERE AL IS.
I WROTE ABOUT THIS, AND THEY HAD THE CHOICE BETWEEN THE 24% 32% INCREASE.
MY SHOUT-OUT TO MY FRIEN THE MISSOURI CONSUMERS COUNCIL, JOHN KAUFFMAN REALLY FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT ON THIS.
YOU COULD BE IN A WHERE THE CHOICE -- IT'S L REMEMBER THE OLD NATIONAL AN MAGAZINE, BUY THIS MAGAZINE, OR WE'LL SHOOT THIS DOG.
'77.
THEY MAY BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING A GUN TO EVERYBODY'S HEAD.
>> IT WILL GO TO 35%.
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
I GUESS WE'VE TO SEE WHAT THE CHOICE IS, PER SE.
IS BUT I COULD CHANGE MY MIND IF THEY REALLY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
TAXPAYERS DON'T HAVE MUCH MONEY, AND THEY REALLY DON'T.
LET'S FACE I THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THE GOOD LIFE ALL, BUT IF THE CITY HAS $250 MILLION FROM SAM AND THE COUNTY HAS ANOTHER 169 MILLION, WHY NOT AT LEAST TAKE A PORTION OF THAT TO A COST OF THE SEWERS FOR THE TAXPAYERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT.
>> NO, NO, NO.
> >> PSYCHOLOGICALLY -- WE'RE GOING TO LOW >> CHARLIE, IF YOU HAD A LOT OF MONEY, ALL OF A SUDDEN INHERITED SOME MONEY, YOU COULD BUILD A NICE DEC IT WOULD BE FUN AND IMPROVE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE, O REDO THE PLUMBING.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT?
BETH AND I WOULD REDO THE PLUMBING.
>> BECAUSE WE ARE PRUDENT, WE ARE ADULTS ADU SEWERS, WHILE NOT SEXY, THEY ARE AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
>> THE HEADLINE IN ST. LOUI LITERALLY FLUSH THAT MONEY DOWN THE TOILET.
>> THAT'S GO TH >> YOU CAN >> PLUS ANOTHER TH >> B HOW TO SPEND IT.
I'M TELLING YOU.
>> YOU C THE -- IF WE GAVE A PORTION TO MSD, THAT MEANS WE'RE GIVING A PORTION TO THE PRESI OF MSD.
THE EXECUTIVES ARE PROBABLY MAKING 6 FIGURES.
I'M AGAI >> CHARLIE, IF FIXING THE SEWERS WITH THAT MONEY IS THE ADULT POSITION, HAND ME A -- I MEAN, REALLY.
LAST FOR TWO WEEKS.
NEXT WEEK WHEN WE'RE OFF THE AIR, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THINGS WE SAID OR THAT I MESSED U BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ST. CHARLES.
THAT WOULD HAVE SAID NO TO MIGRANTS COMING TO THE AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GROUPS OF ST. LOUISIANS LED BY ATTORNEY JERRY SLICTER AND OTHERS GOING TO PLACES LIKE NEW YORK AND CHICAGO SAYING, HEY, LET'S BRING THE HAITIANS, VENEZUELANS TO ST. LOUIS, BECAUS SINCE THESE TOWRNS TOWNS ARE OVER RUIOVERRUN BY MIGRANTS.
NOW WE'VE SAID NO.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALL OF THIS?
>> I WOULD LIVED IN ST. CHARLES RIGHT NOW.
YOU HAVE SENATOR BILL EIGEL SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO BURN BOOKS WITH A FLAME THROWER ON THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION, AND THIS -- BRAZIL .
>> WOULD HE BE OFFENDED IF I CALLED HIM MR. BRAZIL.
THESE POLITICIANS DON'T DO THIS IN A VACUUM.
SOMEBODY LIKE BRAZIL THINKS THIS IS A POPULAR STAND TO BE AGAINST HISPANICS, LEGAL, COMING INTO ST. LOUIS, NOT E I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY DARK DAY FOR ST. CHARLES.
>> GIVE ME YOUR POOR, GIVE ME YOUR MASSES.
THE ENTIRE REGION?
HOW ARE YOU GOIN THE WORDS, WE DON'T WANT THEM IN ST. LOUIS?
>> A WELL, THEY DON'T WANT TH TO ST. LOUIS.
STAND ON HER PART, BUT JUST SERIOUSLY, THAT'S SOME HEARTLESS STUFF WHEN YOU GO THERE.
>> AND IT WAS SO IGNOR HE FRAMED IT LIKE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING HERE ILLEGALLY.
BUT POINTED TO SOME PROGRAMS PEOPLE ARE COMING LE THROUGH.
THIS IS INVOLVED IN, THIS IS ALL LEGAL IMMIGRATION.
HE DOESN'T TALKING ABOUT.
> ABOUT IT.
IT'S POLIT THEATER.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS THE INTENDED EFFECT.
AND I'M NOT CRIT SUBJECT, BUT THE POINT IS -- IT'S EMBARRASSING, BUT IT GOT WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO GET.
>> I DON'T THINK IT PO ORLY ON ST. CHARLES.
YOU KNOW WHY?
ST. CHARLES HAS MORE MEXICAN AMERICANS THAN ST. LOUIS CITY.
SO IT DOESN'T NEED LECTURES FROM THE CITIES ON IMMIGRATION OR WHATEVER.
BUT I DO THI RIGHT NOW IN PLACES LIKE NEW YORK, CHICAGO, WHERE THEY ARE OVERRUN.
AND MAYBE AND AGAIN, I'M PRO-IMMIGRANT, BUT MAYBE HE'S AFRAID THEY WILL BE LIVING IN POLICE STATIO ER'S.
WE'RE GOING TO SEND BUSES DOWN TO PICK PEOPLE UP.
THIS IS BRINGING IN LIMITED NUMBERS OF LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
>> NOW, YOU KNOW, LEGAL DOES MEAN YOU CROSS THE BORDER WITH YOUR FAMILY ILLEGALLY BUT THEN YOU DECLARE ASYLUM.
SO YOU'RE LEGALLY IN T COUNTRY.
> WE NEED PEOPLE L THEY STRENGTHEN THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND OF >> BUT THERE'S A COST, AND IF ANYONE CAN MESS IT UP, WE CAN.
>> WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEING OVERRUN.
THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO DEA THE INFLUX.
ST THAT.
GET IMMIGRANTS TO COME H THEY DON'T WANT TO COM BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT RUNNING INTO SOMEBODY BRAZIL WHO IS LIKE, HEY, GET OFF MY LAWN.
>> NOT COMING.
>> D HERE?
>> YEAH.
PROGRAM.
LOOK.
I'M ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THE ST. LOUIS AREA.
I' I WISH ST. CHARLES WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS.
I'M AL I THINK IT'S THEY TELL ME THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE LATINO SHELTER ON YOUR STREET, AND THEN I'M LIKE, OH, MAN, DO I REALLY WANT THE LA SHELTER ON MY STREET.
SO I'M NOT DEF ST. CHARLES, BUT ONCE YOU IT DOWN TO Y HOMELESS PEOPLE.
>> I DISAGREE.
>> NO ONE SHELTERS.
THEM UP WITH JOBS AND HELPING THEM GET APARTMENTS.
>> AND FOR THE RECOR TOTALLY FOR IMMIGRATION.
>> ME TOO.
>> O SARAH FENSKE, THANK YOU VE MUCH FOR JOINING US.
I'M GOING TO A REPORT THAT CAME YESTERDAY BY THE GENERAL.
WAS A LOOK ONCE AGAIN FOR GARTNER, THE EMBATTLED ATTORNEY GENERAL.
THAT MOVIE.
>> I WAS G REPORT.
YOU MAY HAVE MOVED ON PSYCHOLOGICALLY FROM THE KIM GARDNER ERA.
BUT HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENI TENURE, WHAT EXACTLY WHAT SHE DOING?
AND SPECIFICAL PROGRAM THAT LED T RESIGNING IN DISGRACE, SHE REFUSED TO ANSWER ABOUT HOW LONG SHE W AT ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY AND HOW INTENSIVE THIS PROGRAM WAS.
NOW THANKS TO BAILEY'S REPORT FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE HAV THOSE ANSWER THER CLAMORING ASKING HIM QUESTIONS, AND HE KEPT SAYI RELEASE THE FINAL REPORT.
JUST BE PATIENT.
I'M GLAD HE DID, OF TRANSPARENCY, SHE SPENT ALMOST TWO YEARS IN THIS PROGRAM AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE P HER TO BE OUR FULL-TIME ATTORNEY.
FROM OUR STUDIOS IN THE CITY, I SPENT A COUPLE MINUTES IN THE CITY.
>> >> FIRST OF COUNTY WILL TAKE YOUR KEN GARDNER AND RAISE YOU SAM PAIGE.
>> THAT'S NOT FAIR.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NURSING THING, MOONLIGHTING.
> NURSING THING AND SAM PAIGE DOING ANESTHESIA AS A SIDE HUSTLE.
BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, IN MY MIND, IT'S THEATER.
I MEAN GOT A TOUGH REELECTION CAMPAIGN, ANDREW BAILEY.
>> BUT SHOULD SHE BE HE RAISES THAT POSSIBILITY.
>> NO.
NO.
QUOTE, UNQUOTE, WRONG, BUT IT'S NOT CRIMINAL.
>> COM >> NO, >> IT'S GONE.
LET ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE ELECTION CYCLE, GOT TO DO SOMETHI TELL THE PEOPLE SOMETHING EVERY DAY, BECAU KNOW -- THE WOMAN WHO PROSECUTED ERI GREITENS FOR A PHONE CALL AND MCCLOSE SCI FOMCCLOSKEY FOR STANDING OF HIS HOUSE.
>> WIT >&g >> SHE IS BEYOND PROSECUTION.
SHE DROPPED 25,000 >> NO, THERE WAS NO LAW BROKEN.
I'M SORRY.
NO T GOING TO BE WELL REMEMBE TO, PUT IT MILDLY, AS A PROSECUTOR.
HERE.
SIDE HUSTLE.
>> GIVE ME A BREAK.
>> BAILEY RELEASING THIS REPORT, IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AFRAID THAT KIM GARDNER COULD RUN AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, SH DISASTER IN THE FIRST TERM, AND SHE WAS STILL REELECTED.
SO MAYBE THIS KIND OF PUTS A STAKE THROUGH THE HEART AT THE IDEA OF KIM GARDNER RETURNING.
>> NEXT TOPIC, METROLINK.
YOU'RE WRITING IN THIS WEEK'S RIVERFRONT TIMES ONLINE AND EDITION THAT RIDERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE SINGL WHICH IS BI-STATE'S ANSWER TO MONEY PROBLEMS.
THEY SAID, HAVING A TRAIN OF TWO OR THREE CARS, LET'S TRY ONE, SEE HOW IT WORKS.
SARAH FENSKE?
>> WELL, I THINK PART OF WHAT HAPPENED IS METRO ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS AS A PROJECT, AND THIS PILOT PR IS NOW IN ITS 7th PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OKAY, WHEN IS THIS THING GOING TO WRAP UP, BECAUSE WE ARE -- I TH HAD A PHRASE LIKE THEY ARE SQUASHED LIKE SARDINES I CARS RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S V HARD TO GET IN OR OUT PROPERLY IF YOU HAVE A BICYCLE, THERE IS ONLY ONE LITTLE SPOT WHERE THAT CAN GO, HARDLY ANY ROO PEOPLE PUSHING THEIR WAY IN, AND RIDERS SAY IT'S A DISASTER.
METRO TRANSIT HAS NOT ANSW QUESTIONS UP TO THIS POINT.
SO IT'S I WOULD SAY HAS BEEN EXPERIMENT.
BOSTON, NEW YORK.
> SAY.
FEEL BAD, BECAUSE I LIVED ON THE EAST COAST, AND THERE WERE PERIODS OF T REALLY CROWDED.
BUT WI JUST A TRIAL RUN, AND IF I TAKES YOU FROM -- WE USED TO ALWAYS HAVE THREE CARS, AND NOW WE'LL HAVE 2.
THEN THAT WORKS FOR ME.
YOU'VE GOT TO FI WILL WORK OR NOT.
>> DOESN'T IT SEEM, THOUGH, IF IT'S CLEARLY NOT WORKING, MEAN, IF PEOPLE AR THE STORY MENTIONED ONE OF THE DRIVERS SAYING THAT PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN THE DOORS.
>> AND PEOPLE WI >> ONCE YOU SEE THAT IT'S NOT WORKING, ISN'T IT EASY TO SAY, OKAY, THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DROP IT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COST MORE TO RUN TWO CARS THAN ONE CAR.
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ENGINEER.
THAT WAS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR, ENGINEER.
ON FOR 7 WEEKS.
>> I DON'T K IT WAS GOOD FOLKS IN THE CITY.
BUT I THINK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO CUT THEM A LITTLE SLACK IN THE SENSE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS CERTAINLY ONE SOLUTION IS TO DO THIS BUT ONLY DO IT IN OFF-PEAK HOURS.
IT.
PILOT PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM A LI SEE, BECAUSE IT DOES -- IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFF PEAK HOURS -- IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEAK, I THINK YOU'RE ABSOL RIGHT.
OUT THE 70 FOLKS WITH POSTS ON FACEBOOK, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL.
BUT IF IT WERE THEN IT DOES MAKE THE TRAINS MORE SECURE.
THER THIS, IF THEY CAN CALIBRATE IT RIGHT.
MAKE A RASH DECISION.
>> WELL, I WILL SAY, THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, AN AREA TWO DAYS AGO, IT SAYS ALL OF THESE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE GOING OVER A FISCAL CLIFF, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE HO FIRST ONE SINCE 2006 ON MO WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THE PRESS COVERAGE?
THE TOP ON THE FIRST DAY, SPEAKING TO THE VETERAN, BILL MCCLELLAN, WHO WAS ALSO ENTERTAINED BY T DOWN, BUT A LOT OF NEWS COVERAGE, A LOT OF CLAYTON, WE HAVEN'T HAD A MURDERENER T LONG.
HAVEN'T HAD MURDERS.
BUT IT JUST SEEMED A PRETENTIOUS TO ME.
OUT THAT ARE ALARMING.
SO I'M NOT MAKING FUN OF THE SITUATION.
THE FIRST DAY COVERAGE, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT THERE'S A 20% DROP IN THE MURDER RATE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, AND NOBODY REALLY CARES BECAUSE WHY?
BECAUSE STILL A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE MURDERED IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, BUT EVERYBO BLIND TO THAT.
IF ONE P CLAYTON, THEN HERE WE GO.
>> AND THEY CALLED THE CASE SQUAD ON MONDAY.
THAT'S, OF COURSE, A COMMUNITY RESOURCE THAT UPON FOR HELP IN MAJOR THEY HAD 25 DETECTIVES WORKING ON IT.
THERE ARE ON DETECTIVES IN ST. LOUIS CITY.
>> I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT >> THE MORAL OF STORY IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT MURDER, DON'T DO IT IN CLAYTON.
THEY'RE SHUTTING T IT'S THE SAME PRIN IN THE CITY.
WE MURDERS, AND IF SOMETHIN HAPPENS IN ONE OF THE NI NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT AUTOMATICA ATTENTION.
THE BIASES.
IT'S SURPRISING WHAT HAP A PLACE WH IT.
DICHOTOMY OF THE RESOURCES PUT INTO THIS ONE.
>> WHY DIDN'T ST. LOUIS CITY CALL ON THE MAJOR CASE S ITS MURDERS?
>> I DON'T POLICE DEPARTMENT FEELS THEY NEED THE MAJ I MEAN, THE MAJOR CASE SQUAD WAS REALLY DEVELOPED FOR THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES.
TRUE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE GIVEN TH NUMBER OF UNSOLVED MAJOR CRIMES AND MURDERS THAT WE HAVE, BUT I THINK THE -- >> IT WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER CITY AGENCY.
>> HAS FIVE HOMICIDE ST. LOUIS CITY, POPULATION 286,000, HAS 12.
>> WHEN YOU SAY FIVE HOMI DETECTIVES, MAYBE FIVE DETECTIVES WHO WORK HOMICIDES, NOT JUST DEVOTED TO HOMICIDES LIKE THE ONES IN THE CITY.
>> YEAH, WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING?
>> THIS HAS BEEN A DONNYBROOK ISSUE AS LONG AS WE'VE H SHOW, THE DISPARATE COVERAGE.
WHAT I THINK THE MEDIA REALLY LOOKS IN THE MIRROR ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND, IF IT'S IN A RICH NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE NEWS WORTHY.
IT'S THE DEHUMAN COVERAGE IN NORTH ST. LOUIS AND PLACES THAT WE SORT OF WRITE OFF.
TELL THE HUMAN STORY DOWN TO THE RELATIVES AND EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR VICTIM IN CLAY WHEREVER, AND THE SAME NEWS MEDIA, IS LIKE, SOMEBODY IS MURDERED IN NORTH ST. LOUIS, AND NOBODY MAKES THAT EFFORT.
>> WELL, WE TRY, RAY.
PEOPLE ARE OUT THE DO THIS, AND OFT WANT TO TALK TO THE MEDIA BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THE KILLER IS STILLUT >> IIT ISN'T A SITUATION WHERE THE MEDIA IS TOO CRASS.
I'VE READ AND WRITTEN SOME STORIES ABOUT FAMILIES ON THE NORTH SIDE DEVASTATED BY HOMICIDES.
TOPIC THAT I KNOW YOU WILL WANT TO SINK YOUR THIS IS SENATOR BILL EIGEL SAW SOMETHING PREPARED BY THE NATIONAL GOVERNANCE ASSOCIATION, A SITDOWN MEETING, BEING CONSUMED BY THE GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI, MIK DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR OF KANSAS, LAURA KELLY.
DISAGREE ON SOME ISSUES BUT WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
EIGEL SAID NO WA REPUBLICANS BE SITTING DOWN AND ENJOYING BARBECUE AND DISCUS THINGS IN A CIVIL WAY WITH DEMOCRATS.
POLITICAL THEATER A LOT TONIGHT, AND THERE'S NO Q STRATEGICALLY IT'S A SMART MOVE FOR BILL EIGEL IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
THIS, THIS IS NOT A FIRE DRILL.
IT'S A FIRE.
YO NATIONALLY, THE TRUMP, THE HITLER IMPERSONATION TRUMP HAS BEEN DOING IN THE LAST WEE THIS DOVETAILS WITH THAT.
BILL EIGEL IS NOT A NICE HUMAN BEING.
POLITICS TO.
BE OFFENDED AND TO BE OFFENDED AND CALL OUT THE GOVERNOR OF YOUR OWN PARTY IS BENEATH CONTEMPT, AND I WOULD ARGO OWE AND I'LARGUE -- AND HIS PAL, WHEN THEY DO THIS KIND OF STUFF, THEY ARE DANGEROUS, AND WE NEED UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE DANGEROUS.
>> WAIT.
BILL EIGEL, THIS HAS BEEN BILL EAGLE'EIGEL'S PLAYBOOK.
>> IT'S DANGEROUS.
>> IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO VO AND THE PEOPLE WHO GO, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THAT ARE AT FAULT HERE.
>> I DON'T THINK DANGEROUS.
THAT.
JUST SAYING I DON'T LIST HER AS DANGEROUS.
DANGEROUS IS BECAUSE HE'S JUST A CLOWN.
AND THEN HE'S DA >> IF HE'S GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI -- HE GOES, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING CRAZY, AND THE HOWAR STERN DONALD TRUMP, AND PEOPLE LIKE BRENNAN WILL BRING IT UP.
>> SOMETIMES YOU GIVE PEOPLE TOO MUCH CREDI HE'S JUST WHATEV >> I DISAGREE.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO THAT MUCH CREDIT.
>> IF TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO BE RE-ELECTED AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIVE IN A DICTA PEOPLE LIKE BILL EIGEL WOULDN'T BE DANGEROUS.
ABOUT THAT ON ST. LOUIS INSIDER ON SUBSTACK?
IN THERE.
LET' SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.
>> I WAS OFFENDED WITH EVALUATION OF THE FAILUR MANCHESTER ANNEXATION.
THERE WERE MANY REASONS FO UNINCORPORATED VOTERS TO VOTE NO, BUT IT WAS NEV ARE AGAINST CHANGE.
MY NO VOTE WAS DUE TO CONSIDERABLY HIGHER REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERT ANOTHER LAYE PROVIDING FEW NEW BENEFITS W THE CURRENT MANCHESTER RES WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A DECREASE IN SIMILAR TAXES.
THAT'S FROM JOHN DANIEL MAKE LON.
CONCERNING MANCHESTER'S ATTEMPTS TO ANNEX THE COUNTY.
SEVERAL THOUGHT IT S PASSED.
RE WHY?
PROMISE THAT THOSE BEING ANNEXED WOULD SAVE MONEY.
WH THIS WOULD HAPPEN, NO EXPLANATION WAS FORTHCOMING, WHILE SOME OF YO MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE REASON IT DIDN'T PASS, MAYBE THIS REALLY CAME DOWN TO TRUTH YOU CAN WRITE US CARE OF NINE PBS.
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