
November 17, 2025
Season 4 Episode 101 | 26m 31sVideo has Closed Captions
Congressman Massie on Epstein files vote and President Trump's comments about his wedding.
Congressman Thomas Massie talks about Republicans who could join Democrats to vote for the Epstein files' release and responds to President Donald Trumps criticism of his recent wedding, a community conversation about the Bowling Green’s growth goes nationwide, and we pay a visit to the most populated city in Eastern Kentucky that’s also in the running for the "best cityscape" in the nation.
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November 17, 2025
Season 4 Episode 101 | 26m 31sVideo has Closed Captions
Congressman Thomas Massie talks about Republicans who could join Democrats to vote for the Epstein files' release and responds to President Donald Trumps criticism of his recent wedding, a community conversation about the Bowling Green’s growth goes nationwide, and we pay a visit to the most populated city in Eastern Kentucky that’s also in the running for the "best cityscape" in the nation.
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>> A Congressman Thomas Massie looked ahead to the Epstein files boat and he talks about President Trump's criticism of his recent wedding.
He asked me to come up to more lingering to actually see what was going on.
>> What began as a community conversation here in Kentucky now goes nationwide.
>> We had that little voice in the back of your head saying maybe I should get that checked out.
That would be something I would encourage them to do.
>> What can you do to find a type of cancer that's hard to detect until it's too late.
>> For some of these were all counties in this area, if you don't get to experience quality performing arts, that's an experience that can't be replicated in not need to be preserved.
>> We'll take a trip to Northeast Kentucky where one city is setting the stage for arts, entertainment and history.
>> Production of Kentucky Edition is made possible in part by the KET Millennium Fund.
♪ ♪ >> Good Evening and welcome to Kentucky EDITION for this Monday, November, the 17th, I'm Chrissy Dan filling in for Renee Shaw.
Thank you so much for joining us.
In another reversal, President Donald Trump now says House Republicans should vote in favor of releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files posting on social media last night.
President Trump said, quote, We have nothing to hide and it's time to move on from this Democratic hoax perpetuated by radical left lunatics in order to deflect from the great success of the Republican Party.
Trump campaigned on the idea of releasing files and the years old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein.
Shortly after taking office for his second term.
He's fought against releasing the files, going against many in his own party.
His sudden shift comes as the House prepares to vote tomorrow on a bill that would force the Justice Department to release all files and communications related to Epstein.
If it passes the House, the bill would move on to the U.S.
Senate and it's not clear what would happen there.
Congressman John Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky's 4th district is one of the leaders of the movement to release the Epstein files.
He appeared on ABC Sunday about how many Republicans could join Democrats to vote for the files released.
I think we could have a deluge of Republicans.
There could be 100 or more.
I'm hoping to get a veto proof majority on this legislation when it comes up for a vote.
And, you know, the president's been saying this is a hoax.
He's been saying that for months.
>> Well, these just now decided to investigate a hoax.
It's a hoax.
And I have another concern about these investigations that he's announced.
If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas, those documents can't be released.
So this might be a big smoke screen.
These investigations to open a bunch of them to as a last ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
I mean, it is extraordinary to demand an investigation and only mention Democrats only mention his political opponents, but you're saying it doesn't really you may not leave want any investigation.
He wants to prevent the release.
>> Why does he want to prevent this?
What does he what is he afraid of?
>> You know, I've never said that these files will implicate Donald Trump.
And I really don't think that they will.
I think he's trying to protect a bunch of rich and powerful friends, billionaires, donors to his campaign friends and his social circles then die.
That's my operating theory on why he's trying so hard to KET these files closed.
What do you think is actually in these files?
And we've seen so much.
>> Epstein material from the criminal case is the stuff that just came out this week.
You know, from the estate.
What do you think his last?
>> Yeah, I don't have to guess it once in the files of talk to the survivors through their lawyer and we know they they're at least 20 people in those files, their politicians, billionaires, movie producers who are implicated criminally who haven't been investigated and it's up to the FBI, not the survivors and the DOJ to release those names or at least to investigate them.
And when I see Donald Trump announced a bunch of investigations, I don't see him going after these Rich believes that are implicated in these files, according to the survivors.
>> That's the also talked about Trump's criticism of him after his recent wedding Massey just married a former staffer of Senator Rand Paul and a truth.
Social Post.
The president said Massey's wife will discover she's married to a loser.
Massey says he's taking the criticism with a grain of salt.
He says Trump is just being a bully and that Trump is probably just mad.
He wasn't invited to the wedding.
Congressman Andy Barr, a Republican from Kentucky's 6th district, appeared on FOX News over the weekend bar talked about his campaign for the U.S.
Senate and his continued support for President Trump.
We're surging in the polls were the only campaign in the Republican primary where we're actually growing in the polls.
The other.
>> Candidates are either stuck in the basement are declining in their support.
And the reason is that they recognize that and they appreciate the Republicans of Kentucky.
Appreciate the fact that I was chairman of President Trump's campaign in 2024.
In Kentuckyian that, you know, these other candidates like to talk about supporting President Trump.
I'm actually doing it every single day in the Congress supporting his agenda and Kentucky.
Republicans don't want to lose in points in the United States Senate and they see that you've got a proven winner with me and someone who can hit the ground running on day one and doesn't need on-the-job training.
>> And a poll conducted about a month ago former Attorney General Daniel Cameron led bar 39 to 22%.
Nate Morris was in 3rd place with 8% of the vote.
The poll was from coefficient polling.
Well, it appears the snap.
Our food stamps program is getting back to normal and Kentucky on Saturday, Governor Andy Beshear announced the federal government had given Kentucky approval to fully fund SNAP benefits.
The governor said SNAP recipients would begin seeing benefits loaded on their cards.
Governor Beshear praised the state workers who worked through the night to process SNAP benefits.
The Trump administration paused snap on November first a month after the federal government shutdown began, the shutdown ended last week after 43 days on the 600,000 Kentuckians receive SNAP benefits.
We have previously covered the efforts of what could be JB the digital town hall collected ideas and see and conversation to help Bowling Green prepare for growth over the next 25 years.
That dialogue has inspired a new nationwide survey.
Rodgers was there as organizers gathered in Bowling Green to explain the process.
>> There's a tremendous degree of this is an opportunity to use technology to sell its get opinions from everybody across the country.
That's that's reflected.
>> Of the national mood, not just individual moves.
>> That opportunity is called we the people a focus group of around 2500 Americans representing every congressional district and the United States.
We have.
>> You a really great national conversation.
It's never happened before 5 people from every congressional district, public opinion pollster Scott Rasmussen says the participants were chosen at random, but we made sure that the overall national sample was representative in terms of gender age race, political party, education, all the things that you would normally consider.
>> It was inspired by the work of Google's jigsaw division on what could be GB, wanting to use the same platform for a national conversation.
We're going to ask about America's future.
Just like Bowling Green's, forward-looking approach.
It launched in September.
Among the discussions first brought an open ended questions.
What does freedom mean to you?
We collected over a million words from people in terms of their views on freedom and equality.
Jigsaw takes those words in uses artificial intelligence to prompt more input.
And what in your own life experiences help to get to that point?
Participants then get to see and react to what others had to say with the goal of finding common ground.
When you begin to realize that way, you know, you and I may start in different places, but we at least have some common ideals.
Then you can have a conversation.
Many say we need more civil discourse.
>> As political divisions grow deeper, running a country and open democracy is a difficult thing to do.
But as things we have to, we have to get it right.
Congressman Brett Guthrie pointing out the regional differences in America's.
>> 435 congressional districts.
Lawmakers elected to represent their constituents back at home to get people in.
>> A Queens, New York people in Los Angeles, California, people in in the South Central Kentucky, people, Wyoming, that that everybody has different perspective in on some places that wide open land, big spaces and some people are and, you know, represent neighborhoods.
>> He's hopeful this initiative can get a better look at the consensus of the country as a whole.
The conversation will continue into 2026.
We're going to be talking about what is the American dream today.
It will lead to a final report for America's 200 50th birthday on July 4th of next year.
We're hopeful that when the Tricentennial comes, even though I won't be around for it.
>> Historians then will reach back and be able to capture this snapshot of America at this point in time.
>> And that snapshot may show we have much more in common than we realize for Kentucky edition.
I'm Laura Rogers.
Thank you.
Laura Insights from the first conversation will be released soon.
>> At we the people hyphen 2, 5, 0 dot org.
You can also learn more and sign up for updates on the website.
There's a new development in the Breonna Taylor shooting case 5 years after her death in Louisville, according to the Term Courier Journal, the Department of Justice wants former Louisville police Detective Brett Hankinson released from federal prison while he appeals earlier this year.
The Justice Department recommended Hankison spend one day in prison.
A judge ignored that recommendation and sentence Hankison to 33 months in prison for firing shots during the 2020 raid that killed Taylor.
The raid was part of a drug investigation, but police didn't find any drugs in Taylor's apartment.
It's unclear when the 6 Circuit Court of Appeals will schedule arguments in Hankison's appeal.
The Republican Party of Kentucky is expanding quite literally.
Over the weekend, the party held a ribbon cutting for its headquarters into expansion in Frankfort, U.S.
Senator Mitch McConnell for which the building is named was on hand for the ceremony.
♪ ♪ In November.
Is pancreatic cancer Awareness Month.
And now there's a new tool in the fight against pancreatic cancer.
I recently sat down with the first and only physician in Kentucky to perform this life changing treatment.
More in today's medical news >> Doctor William Evans is here from Norton Healthcare.
So Dr Evans, why is pancreatic cancer so hard to treat and so hard to hear?
Why is it so deadly?
>> That's a great question.
It's because pancreatic cancer is diagnosed so late.
That has to do with the anatomy of the pancreas.
It is an organ that is deep in the abdominal cavity delivers on top of it.
The stomachs in front of it and surrounding the pancreas or number of vital organs.
And so patients don't have symptoms until this tumor has actually grown and spread locally and affected some of those important blood vessels or even travel to the liver.
So that's what makes it so hard.
Is that symptoms come on so late.
And by the time they're there, it's already spread to areas where doing surgery to cure.
It is not an option.
>> Wow.
So a silent most yes, as it gets started.
So when there are symptoms, what are they are there in the early symptoms?
>> There?
>> Some when you talk to and I've talked to my patients with pancreatic cancer, we can go back.
And in hindsight, the most common thing is going to be a vague upper gnawing at dominant discomfort and a lot of patients wish they would have pursued a little bit harder.
So I would encourage people that if they have a persistent pain, more likely after they eat, it's not enough to where he even most patients would say I need to go to are immediate care center or the emergency room.
But something that just doesn't feel right.
You have that little voice in the back of your head saying maybe I should get that checked out.
That would be something I would encourage them to do.
Patients in their 20's 30's, probably not going to need to do that.
But patients 50 and above.
That's when those are the ones that really want to pay attention to it.
Other things are going to be a little decrease of appetite, unexplained weight loss.
And one of the bigger things that I'd like to let people know about is patients who are in their 6th 7006th decade.
So light life and they have new onset diabetes.
They are not obese, but somebody says, well, you might have diabetes that can be an early detector of a pancreatic cancer.
Okay.
I had never heard that before.
You.
>> Okay.
So is there any way to reduce our risk of developing pancreatic cancer?
Anything we can do?
>> Yes, yes, I think the most important thing is knowing your family history and that and not just for pancreatic cancer, but any cancers that run in the family, grandparents, mom dead ants on calls and the more cancers that tend to run in the family.
Multiple generations.
I would inquire with your primary care doctor to get genetic testing.
There are different genetic mutations that increase people's risk for pancreatic cancer.
So if they have a family history of different cancers, they get genetic testing.
They have a certain gene after malady that's going to increase their risk of pancreatic cancer and we can start really thinking about those other risk factors.
They may have think about their symptoms.
And when we get a good screening program are screening test, we can get him involved in that.
>> Okay.
We'll talk about advancements in this field and you're the first position to bring a procedure to Kentucky.
Yeah, it during health care.
Talk about what that is it and how it helps patients.
Sure.
>> It's called endoscopic ultrasound radiofrequency ablation, which is a very big complex were out for.
It is a mouthful.
So what it is, it's an outpatient procedure, not surgery.
It's an in docks P procedure, meaning we use a flexible scope that once patients are completely asleep with anesthesia, it goes into the mouth.
The scope goes to the stomach and small bow.
And with that scope is attached to little ultrasound probe.
Ultrasound is simply sound waves that bounce off tissue.
And with that ultrasound probe, I can visualize the pancreas and examine it in its entirety.
I can look at the other structures in the area, the liver, the gallbladder, et cetera.
This in just got the culture sound was used initially when I I had my training, we would use a needle and past that needle into different tumors to get tissue or a biopsy and make the diagnosis of pancreatic cancer.
Well, as medical technology has evolved the same needle now has a stainless steel tip and through that tip, we can deliver high energy electricity, kalb radiofrequency ablation, which is kind of like cooking or microwaving the tumor from the inside.
That has a really good effect.
Okay.
It's not a cure, but but it helps significantly.
Yes, a lot of studies have shown that no, this is absolutely not a cure.
Iran.
>> We do this along with standard treatments in patients who have pancreatic cancer that have been diagnosed.
We are not doing it on patients that may become surgical candidates down the road.
But those that are unfortunately not surgical candidates for a cure.
They're undergoing chemotherapy.
Those are the ones we want to offer in this Catholic Ultra sound, too.
what it does is it decreases the tumor size in over half of the patients that decrease in the tumor size can help with their pain.
As well as what we call their performance status, though, overall well-being, their degree of fatigue, nausea, weight loss, maybe even improve their appetite.
And a couple of studies have shown that it does increase survival rates.
Okay.
>> Dr Evans, thank you so much for your time for being here.
Thank you for having me.
>> Pancreatic cancer remains one of the most challenging cancers to treat.
>> With many patients diagnosed at an advanced stage.
It's also the 3rd leading cause of cancer death in the U.S.. Well, it is a good week to roll up your sleeves and give blood.
This is the 38 in more big Blue crush.
>> In a real competition between the Kentucky Blood Center and a blood center in Tennessee.
Most donor centers are open from 09:00AM to 06:00PM and you're encouraged to make an appointment.
But walk-ins will be accepted as space allows Kentucky has won 3 straight times and leads the series.
22 to 14 with one tie.
Donors will receive a white long sleeve T-shirt while supplies last.
♪ It's the most populated city in eastern Kentuckyian it's also in the running for the best cityscape in the nation.
Ashland, Kentucky, which is located in Boyd County, is making strides to attract downtown businesses and bring in more visitors.
Our Emily Sisk pay the city a visit for tonight segment of Monday's on Maine.
Ashlyn Kentucky of the Mid 20th Century was known for its industries like steel oil and the railroad.
>> Today the city is home to around 21,000 people, Ashton's mayor said its downtown businesses and even its art pieces pay homage to the city's heritage.
We've become.
>> From an industrial focus to more medical more service related and it's becoming a shopping location.
And for restaurants.
Downtown Ashland boasts around 35 local within a few blocks.
>> And right in the middle is the Paramount Arts Center.
It opened in 1931 and was owned by none other than the Paramount Pictures.
Film company.
The idea was Paramount.
Pictures wanted to make a quality arts organization.
I building to House the arts organization in every single state in the United States.
They picked the location of each Paramount Arts center based off what city they thought was going to thrive.
And because we're on the river and the steel industry, coal industry.
>> They thought that we could become something like Savannah, Georgia or something like that because of the Great Depression.
Paramount Pictures had to stop construction after finishing around a dozen of its theaters.
That might not have worked out for Paramount Pictures, but it definitely worked out for Ashland, right where over 90 years and to having this beautiful, beautiful building in our tri-state, even if you've never stepped inside the Paramount Arts Center, you might have seen it before as the location for a famous music video.
Probably.
>> The most notable Billy Ray Cyrus did his achy Breaky Heart video and the pair met.
You can see them beginning with the marquee up.
>> Today the Art Center hosts Concerts, theater, productions and festivals and UK shunned director Matt Hammond said the Paramount serves more than 50,000 students each year.
>> My favorite thing about watching kids coming here as they block in, they look up and for some of these rural counties in this area, you don't get to experience quality performing arts.
So far.
I think the most expensive ticket we have for an educational show.
This here is $10.
That's an experience that can't be replicated in not need to be preserved.
>> Preservation of local history is what the Highlands Museum and Discovery Center is all about located just a couple blocks down from the Paramount, the museum showcases the history of the tri-state.
>> And we do country music industry.
We to clothing and textiles.
There's also an interactive space for little ones.
The my favorites is actually wanted to grandparents bringing a child because we have the the child, the children's area for the kids.
But then grandpa can say, OK, well, now we're going to go look at the exhibit about pump laser because he was over Ashlynn oil.
And that's something I remember.
>> The museum curator said some people in town are still discovering the attraction, but she believes it brightens up the downtown scene.
I hear from people all the time.
They had no idea it was here.
They had no idea.
There was something like this in Ashland and there are many other sites to see from the river ports to an old arcade.
We have the arcade, which is down here in Winchester.
>> It's the small in Kentucky.
It's going to celebrate it 100 here next year.
We have 3 statues that were actually donated to the city that really.
A lot of our history and how we were connected to still making.
And they're the largest, as I understand, the statues of that type on a river port.
You can find in there.
They're gorgeous.
>> For Celeste to comes, the executive director of visit AK Why it's her mission to bring in folks from all over to see Ashland and maybe find their new home.
Of course, we want them to come in and tore here and be here.
But how awesome would it be if they fell in love with it and came back in state?
What we have here is something special.
I truly believe that.
>> For Kentucky edition, I'm Emily Sisk.
>> Thank you, Emily.
It is special this weekend, the Paramount Arts Center kicks off its annual festival of trees and trains.
It's a holiday fundraiser that supports the historic arts center and get this Ashland has the second largest festival of trees in the entire country.
♪ ♪ As expected University of Louisville moves up and University of Kentucky move down in the new Associated Press men's basketball poll which came out this afternoon.
More tonight in this.
Look at sports.
The Cardinals beat the Wildcats, 96 to 88 last Tuesday in Louisville with the win, Louisville moved up from 12th to 6th and Kentucky dropped from 9th place to 12th.
And if you wanted to know Purdue is number one in this week's poll.
Only one vice president of the United States married while in office.
And he was from Kentucky and meet the man who put the Clark in Clark County.
Our Toby Gibbs has more in this.
Look back at this week in Kentucky history.
♪ >> Explorer and Revolutionary War General George Rogers, Clark, namesake of Clark County, was born November 19th 17.
52 in Virginia.
His leadership during the American Revolution led to his nickname Conquer of the old Northwest.
Only one U.S.
vice president has married while in office, Kentucky, an album Barkley, a widower.
Mary Jane Hadley on November 18th 1949.
Barkley was 71 at the time.
Another vice President George HW Bush.
This isn't like Sinton on November.
18th 1985, the dedicated Lucille Park are marquee cancer center at the University of Kentucky.
November 18th 1967, U.S.
Supreme Court Justice William O Douglas, let a 5 mile hike through the cliff.
The wilderness area to show opposition to the proposed damming of the Red River Gorge.
He'd been invited by the Sierra Club is hike help stall the project.
And in 1993, the area was named a national wild and Scenic River.
>> Lexington's Phoenix Hotel was demolished November 17, 1981 businessman and future Governor Wallace.
Wilkinson plan to build the World Call Center skyscraper there.
But that never happened today.
The site is on the Park Plaza Apartments and Phoenix Park.
And that's what was going on this week in Kentucky.
History.
I'm told he gives.
>> Thank you to the gives.
And thank you so much for joining us.
Have a good evening.
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