Braude: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON:" IT'S A FAMILY AFFAIR, AS PRESIDENT BIDEN'S SPECIAL ENVOY FOR CLIMATE JOHN KERRY, AND DR. VANESSA KERRY, BOTH JOIN ME FROM THE U.N.

CLIMATE CONFERENCE KNOWN AS COP-26, IN GLASGOW, SCOTLAND.

WE'RE SPENDING THE WHOLE SHOW WITH THEM, TALKING ABOUT WHAT WORLD LEADERS HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, WHAT THEY HAVEN'T, AND WHAT'S NEXT IN THE FIGHT TO MITIGATE THE WORST EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE THAT THREATEN US ALL, IN MORE WAYS THAN MOST OF US EVEN KNOW.

>> Braude: AS LEADERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD GATHERED AT THE COP-26 CLIMATE TALKS, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ISSUED AN APOLOGY.

>> I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE FACT THE UNITED STATES, THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, PULLED OUT OF THE PARIS ACCORDS AND PUT US, SORT OF, BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.

>> Braude: MORE THAN A LITTLE BIT, AS THAT MOVE SHOOK GLOBAL FAITH IN THE U.S. TO MEANINGFULLY ACT ON THIS ISSUE.

ONE RECENTLY-RELEASED REPORT WAS DECLARED A "CODE RED FOR HUMANITY," WARNING OF EXISTENTIAL NATURAL DISASTERS, WITH HEAT-WAVES, HURRICANES, AND WILDFIRES ALREADY WORSENING AROUND THE WORLD, AND THE GROWING THREAT OF RISING SEA LEVELS, WHICH IS ON TRACK TO PUT THE WORLD'S COASTAL COMMUNITIES-- INCLUDING MUCH OF THIS STATE-- UNDERWATER.

AND, WHILE THE WEALTHY ARE CAUSING THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEMS, THE POOR ARE BEARING THE BRUNT OF THEM.

A STUDY IN THE JOURNAL "NATURE" THIS WEEK FOUND FOSSIL FUEL-BURNING BY THE RICHEST NATIONS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AROUND TWO MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR, MOSTLY IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES.

SINCE TAKING OFFICE, BIDEN HAS TRIED TO UNDO MUCH OF THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE CLIMATE-CHANGE-DENIER WHO PRECEDED HIM, AND HAS PUT CLIMATE ACTION AT THE HEART OF HIS AGENDA, INCLUDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF CLEAN-ENERGY PROPOSALS IN HIS "BUILD BACK BETTER."

ALTHOUGH, WEST VIRGINIA COAL-INVESTOR SENATOR JOE MANCHIN IS HARD AT WORK TRYING TO LIMIT ITS SCOPE.

THANKFULLY, NO ONE LET MANCHIN TAG ALONG TO GLASGOW, WHERE THE U.S.

LED A GROUP OF 90 GOVERNMENTS IN PLEDGING TO REDUCE METHANE EMISSIONS BY 2030.

THEY ALSO JOINED ANOTHER AGREEMENT TO END DEFORESTATION BY THE SAME DEADLINE, WHICH WAS SIGNED BY MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE U.K., CHINA, RUSSIA AND BRAZIL.

>> I THINK WE GOT A LOT DONE.

>> Braude: BUT, AS MY NEXT GUESTS KNOW WELL, IT'S NOT DONE UNTIL IT'S REALLY DONE.

FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE AND MASSACHUSETTS SENATOR JOHN KERRY IS NOW THE NATION'S FIRST-EVER SPECIAL PRESIDENTIAL ENVOY FOR CLIMATE, AND IS A LEADER OF THE COP-26 TALKS.

HE ALSO HELPED STEER NEGOTIATIONS ON THAT HISTORIC PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD THAT TRUMP LATER BLEW UP, AN AGREEMENT HE PERSONALLY SIGNED BACK IN 2016 WITH HIS THEN-TWO-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER ON HIS LAP.

HE JOINS ME NOW FROM GLASGOW, ALONG WITH DR. VANESSA KERRY, WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE HEALTH IMPLICATIONS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AT THE SUMMIT.

SHE'S DIRECTOR OF THE GLOBAL PUBLIC POLICY AND SOCIAL CHANGE PROGRAM AT HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL, A PHYSICIAN AT MASS GENERAL HOSPITAL, AND C.E.O.

OF THE NON-PROFIT SEED GLOBAL HEALTH.

SECRETARY KERRY, DR. KERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.

SECRETARY, IF I CAN START WITH YOU, YOU CALLED COP-26 THE LAST BEST HOPE FOR THE WORLD TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER.

DID IT?

>> WELL, WE'RE NOT FINISHED.

WE HAVE TEN MORE DAYS.

I THINK IT IS.

THIS IS A MARATHON HERE IN GLASS IMOW BUT WE'RE MAKING ACTUALLY REMARKABLE PROGRESS, JIM.

I JUST SAW AN AMAL SIS TODAY PUT OUT BY THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY THEY CRUNCHED THE NUMBERS AND ALL THE INCOMER BCS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO DATE AND CAME OUT WITH A FIGURE, IF THEY ARE ALL FOLLOWED THROUGH ON AND EXECUTED, IMPLEMENTEDDED, 1.8 DEGREES.

I WAS FLABBERGASTED WHEN I SAW THAT.

AND WE HAVE THE LARGEST ING-- INCREASE IN EFFORT BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE, READY TO BE DEPLOYED IN ORDER TO INVEST IN THE TRANSITION.

AND THE KEY IS GOING TO BE WORKING OUT NOW WITH MULTIDEVELOPMENT BANKS AND OTHERS HOW WE CREATE THE BLENDED FINANCE AND THE RISK ASSUMPTION NECESSARY TO DEPLOY IT IT.

BUT ALL IN ALL, COUNTRIES ARE AT THE TABLE THAT HAVE IG MORED THIS FOR SOME TIME.

WE HAVE AN INCREASABLE COMMITMENT, ABOUT 65 PERCENT OF GLOBAL GDP IS NOW WORKING ON ADOPTED PLANS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP 1.5 DEGREES ALIVE.

I'LL TELL YOU, SIX MONTHS AGO I WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED THAT THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

BUT IT'S HAPPENING.

AND WE HAVE MORE TO COME IN THE NEXT DAYS.

>> Braude: BUT SECRETARY, THAT TABLE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, ONE INIT TIT THAT IS NOT AT THE TABLE IS THE WORST POLLUTER IN THE WORLD, CHINA.

PRESIDENT XI IS NOT THERE.

HOW DOES THAT NOT LEAVE A HUGE HOLE IN WHATEVER YOU ACHIEVE IN SCOTLAND?

>> WELL, IT'S NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THEY'RE NOT AT THE TABLE.

PRESIDENT XI HIMSELF ELECTED MOT TO AM COULD BUT HIS TEAM IS HERE.

THE MAN THAT I HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH FOR 26 OR 7 SESSIONS SINCE JANUARY WITH TWO TRIPS TO CHINA, HE IS HERE.

AND WE JUST FINISHED A SESSION, JUST NOW, WORKING IT TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND.

SO THIS ISN'T OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER, AS YOU OPENED UP WITH.

AND THE FACT IS THAT CHINA DOES HAVE A PLAN.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PLAN.

MANY OF US FEEL THE PLAN COULD BE STRONGER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.

BUT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A PLAN.

SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT MORE WE CAN DO TOGETHER.

WE'RE WORKING WITH CHINA TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD PUT ON PAPER AND ACTUALLY MAKE HAPPEN.

BUT I'M ENCOURAGED THAT OTHER COUNTRIES WHO HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN THAT ENGAGED, MEXICO, PRESIDENT LOPEZ-- WENT DOWN THERE THE OTHER DAY, WE SPENT THE DAY TOGETHER.

HE AGREED THAT THEY WOULD NOW MOVE TO DEPLOY RENEWABLES IN ADDITION, OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE SOUTH AFRICA, SOUTH AFRICA HAS PUT IN A PLAN, THEY'RE PREPARED TO GET OFF OF COAL.

THEY NEED FINANCE AND TECHNOLOGY BUT IF WE ALL WILL PROVIDE IT IT, SOUTH AFRICA CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BRAZIL HAS ACTUALLY PUT FORWARD A NUMBER OF THOUGHTS.

PEOPLE ARE DEPLOYING RENEWABLE ENERGY, EVEN SAUDI ARABIA.

SO PEOPLE NEED TO STOP AND STEP BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT THE FOUR CORNERS OF WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE.

AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE QUITE ENCOURAGED.

ARE WE WHERE WE NEED TO BE, NO, WILL THERE BE A GAP WHEN WE FINISH, YES.

BUT WE HOPE THAT THE NEXT TEN YEARS WHICH IS WHAT THE SCIENTISTS HAVE TOLD US WE HAVE, THEY DO THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION, CAN BE CONTINUALLY PLUGGED INTO BY MANY MUCH THESE COUNTRIES AS NEW TECHNOLOGIES COME ONLINE AND AS WE MAKE PROGRESS.

>> Braude: DR. KERRY, I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR SPEECH AT COP-26 AT THE U.K. GOVERNMENT PAVILION.

>> IT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT HAS JUST COME OUT THAT 115,000 HEALTH CARE WORKERS HAVE DIED IN COVID.

SO OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO CLIMATE CHANGE, TO ADDRESS THE HEALTH ISSUES, TO REDUCE THE VULNERABILITIES TO THOSE THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE, THEY OVERLAP PERFECTLY WITH THE CRITICAL SHORTAGES OF WHERE HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE HIGHEST.

>> Braude: WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS DID YOU SEE ON THAT FRONT, IF ANY?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, HEALTH IS NOT BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE AGENDA HERE AT COP, IN THIS PARTICULAR, WE'RE REALLY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SEEN AS CENTRAL TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND YET THE FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS OF HEALTH, FOOD, WATER, SANITATION AND SHELTER ARE ALL DRIVEN BY CLIMATE CHANGE, OR ARE GOING TO BE THREATENED BY CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE GOING IT TO BE FELT MOST SEVERELY ARE IN THE LESS RESOURCE SECT, THE SETTINGS ALREADY VERY VULNERABLE FROM CLIMATE CHANGE AND THERE IS EXPECTED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL $250,000 DEATHS A YEAR FROM EXTREME HEAT, DROUGHT, THAT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT MALNUTRITION AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE THE LUNG EFFECTS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND OTHER THINGS.

AND SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE START TO THINK OF THESE AS, YOU KNOW, IF ONE IN MANY WAYS ALSO WITH SIMILAR SOLUTIONS.

TO SHARE A STORY, REALLY FROM THE FRONT LINES.

WHEN WE TRAIN HEALTH CARE WORKERS, IT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER CARE AND TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THESE LUNG PROBLEMS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY ARE OUT THERE AND DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN AND EMPLOYING THEIR TRAINING AND SAVING LIVES AND THEN THE ELECTRICITY GOES OUT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE CARE.

SOO AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT OUR CLIMATE SOLUTIONS AND BUILDING SUSTAINABLE ENERGY, WE CAN BE LINKING THAT, WE CAN BE THINK BEING THIS AS A HOLISTIC PROBLEM THAT LEVERAGES ACROSS MULTIPLE SPECTER.

SO I AM VERY HOPEFUL, ACTUALLY, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SHINE A LIT ABOUT HOW ALL THESE SOLUTIONS COME TOGETHER.

AND WE CAN SOLVE MANY THINGS AT ONCE.

>> Braude: SECRETARY, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT IF THESE COUNTRIES FOLLOW THROUGH IN THEIR COMMITMENTS.

WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COP 26 ON OUR RADIO SHOW AND TALKED ABOUT VIEMENTAL-- ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, CLIMATE CHANGE IN GENERAL, THE MOST COMMON THING THAT COMES UP, IS HOW DO WE TRUST THESE POLLUTERS, THE WORST POLLUTING NATIONSK HOW DO WE ENSURE WITH NO ENFORCE ABILITY NATION THAT THEY HONOR THEIR COMMITMENT SO THAT WE GET TO THAT GOAL, IF WE CAN GET TO THAT GOAL.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

>> WELL, JIM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, LEGITIMATE BUT THERE IS AN ANSWER TO IT IT THERE IS NOT A FORMAL PROCESS BY WHICH A COUNTRY IS QUOTE PUNISHED OR HELD ACCOUNTABLE, PARTLY BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A TREATY, AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR COUNTRY WHO WON'T SUPPORT ANY KIND OF INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT.

SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GO FORWARD WHERE REALLY PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHAT WILL MATTER HERE.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

JUST THE OTHER DAY WILL WAS A FRONT PAGE STORY IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" WITH PICTURES, OF THE SATELLITE PROGRAM WE HAVE CALLED CAPERN ICU S WHICH TRACES AND LOOKS AT EVERY COUNTRY EVERY DAY.

AND IT SHOWED A MAJOR METHANE LEAK IN RUSSIA.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO PREVIOUSLY.

YOU KNOW, THE OLD SAYING YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE.

WELL, LITERALLY TODAY, COUNTRIES ON A DAILY BASIS, THE SUPPLY CHAINS OF CORPORATIONS, WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE NET ZERO BY 2050.

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ZERO IN ON ANY BIG CORPORATION AND ACTUALLY TRACE OUT THEIR ENTIRE SUPPLY CHAIN.

AND AS THAT INFORMATION GETS PUBLIC THROUGH TWEETS AND INTERNET AND EMAILS AND YOU KNOW, STORIES, THERE IS GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY.

LET ME TELL YOU.

AND I THINK THAT IN ADDITION THESE MEETINGS WILL CONTINUE.

AND COUNTRIES ALWAYS FEEL SENSITIVE TO THE PUBLIC OPINION OF THESE MEETINGS, THEY DON'T WANT TO COME AND BE THE BLACK SHEET OR THE ENTITY THAT IS NOT GET THE JOB DONE.

>> Braude: LET ME TURN THE QUESTION AROUND THOUGH, SECRETARY, I'M SURE YOU ARE CONFRONTED.

>> BY BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT TRUST, NOTHING THAT WE ARE DOING IS GOING TO BE BASED ON TRUST.

IT IS BASED ON THE PROMISES THAT THEY MAKE AND SHOWING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT IT AND IF THEY'RE NOT-- .

>> Braude: GO AHEAD.

LET'S TURN THE TRUST ISSUE AROUND, I'M SURE YOU CONFRONTED THIS, AND MY GUESS IS THE PRESIDENT HAS CONFRONTED THIS.

WE PLAYED A MINUTE AGO WHAT HE SAID, HIS APOLOGY, ESSENTIALLY FOR HIS PREDATORS BEHAVIOR IN THE CLIMATE DENYING BUT WHAT DO YOU SAY TO A COLLEAGUE WHEN THEY SAY HOW CAN WE TRUST THERE WON'T BE A TRUMP 2.0 WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CAN'T EVEN CONVINCE HIS DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE.

>> I WILL TELL YOU WHY ANOTHER GREAT QUESTIONS, TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.

HERE IS THE ANSWER, I THINK AND I BELIEVE, THIS I TALKED WITH LEADERS ALL AROUND THE WORLD ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY POLITICIAN, NO SINGLE PERSON, NEXT PRESIDENT WHOEVER THAT IS, IF IT ISN'T JOE BIDEN, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAY AWAY WERE ELECTION, SO WE GOT ANOTHER THREE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT NO POLITICIAN WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS NOW DOING.

TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE BEEN HELD OUT NOW TO BECOME PART OF THIS TRANSITION.

FORD MOTOR COMPANY, GENERAL MOTORS, THEY'RE GOING TO RETOOL TO THE TUNE OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PRODUCE ELECTRIC CARS.

AND AS OF 2035, ONLY ELECTRIC CARS, SO NO POLITICIAN IS GOING TO MAKE THEM GO BACK AND UNDO ELECTRIC CARS.

OR THE WHOLE NETWORK THAT'S BEING CREATED AROUND THE WORLD WITH RESPECT TO POWER AND ELECTRICITY.

SO I THINK YOU SEE-- I MEAN JUST TODAY WE HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT HERE IN GLASGOW WHICH ON A PROGRAM THAT WE PUT TOGETHER CALLED FIRST MOVERS.

COMPANIES THAT HAVE STEPPED UP TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO BUY 10% OF GREEN STEEL, 10% OF ALL THE STEEL WE BUY TO MAKE VOLVO AUTOMOBILES, THIS IS THE COMPANY.

AND VOLVO SAID IT ST GOING TO BE GREEN, DHL IS THERE.

AMAZON JOINED UP AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE LIVING UP TO GREEN STANDARDS IN THE SHIPPING THAT WE DO.

SO AS THAT HAPPENS, THE INNOVATIONS PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A MARKETPLACE TO GO TO.

AND SO MONEY BEGINS TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, THAT INVESTMENT LEVEL IN THREE YEARS WILL BE SO POWERFUL ACROSS THE WORLD THAT I'M TELLING YOU, NO POLITICIAN IN ANY COUNTRY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVERSE THAT.

THE WHOLE MARKETPLACE IS MOVING.

>> Braude: I HOPE THE 70 MILLION PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER ARE LISTENING.

IF I CAN TURN TO YOU, DOCTOR.

I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF YOUR LIFE'S WORK IN VULNERABLE NATIONS.

AND I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE VULNERABLE NATIONS FORUM AT COP-26, WHERE 48 COUNTRIES, THE MOST AT RISK, WARMING THE FASTEST, WHILE ADD HE-- EMITTING THE LEAST, ARE MEETING.

I KNOW YOU WERE AT ONE OF THEIR SECRETARIES,-- MEETING, SECRETARY, HERE IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT OF GHANA HAD TO SAY IN HIS SPEECH TO COP-26 >> WE ARE, NATURALLY, VERY DISAPPOINTED BY THE FAILURE OF THE WEALTHY NATIONS TO HONOR THEIR COMMITMENTS OF MAKING AVAILABLE $100 BILLION ANNUALLY TO THE POORER COUNTRIES, TO ASSIST US IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE.

THOSE SAME NATIONS ARE, HOWEVER, INSISTING THAT WE ABANDON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF OUR ECONOMIES.

>> Braude: DOCTOR, AS I SAID, YOU SPENT MUCH OF YOUR WORK IN MANY OF THOSE COUNTRIES, DR. KERRY FIRST, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION IN WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAD TO SAY.

>> I THINK IS HE SPEAKING A HARD TRUTH.

WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF COMMITMENTS.

WE BEING THE GLOBAL NORTH.

I MEAN ABOUT PROMISES TO FULFILL.

THE REALITY IS WE ARE SEEING IT PLAY OUT PRETTY HARSHLY IN THE BACK OF THE INEQUITY, VACCINE INEQUITY, IT ST NOT EVEN A DEBATE, I WORK WITH THE HEALTH WORKFORCE, WE HAVE CURRENTLY, THERE IS SUCH A DEEP SORT OF DIE COT ME BETWEEN WHO GETS SICK AND DIES AND WHO ACCESSES THE VACCINE, AND COVID FOARK, 2 IN 5 HEALTH CARE WORKERS HAVE BEEN VACCINATED AND ONE IN TEN IN AFRICA.

AND YET WE HAVE MADE PROMISES AND COMMITMENTS OF DELIVERING DRUGS OR DELIVERING VACCINES, BUT ST KNOT FAST ENOUGH.

WE ARE FACING TWO OF THE LARGEST EXISTENTIAL CRISES WE COULD FACE IN HUMANITARIANITY RYU NO I A GLOBAL PANDEMIC THAT AFFECTS US ALL, IT IT AFFECTS THOSE WITH RESOURCE FAR MORE AND-- AND CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHICH IS YOU KNOW, A-- AND BOTH OF THESE DO NOT REFLECT-- BORDERS THEY ARE GLOBALLY FELL.

FOR THOSE COUNTRIES THAT ARE THE LEAST EMITTERS MOST VULNERABLE BUS THEY HAVE THE LESS RESOURCES TO MITIGATE AND ADAPT, I DO THINK WE HAVE TO THINK OF OURSELVES MORE AS A GLOBAL COMMUNITY.

I DON'T MEAN THAT FROM A COME BAYA, BUT FROM A VERY PRAGMATIC STANDPOINT OF GLOBAL ECONOMY, TRADE, MANUFACTURING.

THE REALITY IS HEALTH IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH, TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, TO OUR WELL-BEING.

THERE IS LOTS OF THINGS, FOR EVERY YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY THAT WE CAN INCREASE, THERE IS A 4 PERCENT INCREASE IN GDP.

UNITED STATES ALONE SPENDS $820 BILLION A YEAR MITIGATING THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF JUST MICROPARTICLES AND SMOG IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE.

THAT IS A LOST OPPORTUNITY.

FOR COUNTRIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO JOIN THE ECONOMIES OF THE WORLD TODAY, TO HAVE SO MUCH OF THEIR POPULATION AT RISK FROM EITHER CLIMATE CHANGE OR HEALTH, IT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE THING TO OVERCOME WITHOUT A MAJOR INFLUX OF RESOURCES AND THE ABILITY TO REALLY BRIDGE THAT GAP.

WE REQUEST DO THAT AS A GLOBAL COMMUNITY.

THAT ECONOMY AND RESOURCES EXIST, THE RESOURCES EXIST, THE SCIENCE EXIST, THE TECHNOLOGY EXIST, THE ONLY THING THAT IS MISSING IS POLITICAL WILL.

SO THERE IS A TRUTH THERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE TRYING.

AND THE MOOD HERE IN COP-26 HAS BEEN ONE I THINK REALLY SHIFTING TO TRY AND MEET THIS MOMENT.

WE HAVE TO KEEP BEING ASPIRATIONAL, YES, BECAUSE WE WILL FAIL AS GLOBAL CITIZENS IF WE DON'T FUNDAMENTALLY CLOSE THE GAP.

BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> Braude: SECRETARY KERRY T IS TRUE I THINK IT WAS $100 BILLION COMMITMENT THE WEALTHY NATIONS MADE TO THESE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, THAT I BELIEVE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PASSED ALONG IN 2020, HAS NOT BEEN HONORED, HAS IT?

>> WELL, LET ME BEGIN BY FIRST OF ALL RECOGNIZING VANESSA'S NAL SIS THERE WHICH I REALLY AGREE WITH IN TERMS OF THE INEQUITY AND THE BASE HERE.

BUT HERE IS THE BUT.

PRESIDENT OBAMA COMMITTED TO PUT $3 BILLION IN TO THE COLLECTION THAT WAS HEADING TOWARDS THE HUNDRED BILLION.

AND REGRETTABLY DONALD TRUMP CAME IN AND BLOCKED THE MONEY FOR THREE YEARS, AND THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LIVE UP TO TTS AGREEMENT UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS COME IN AND HE HAS NOW PUT ON THE TABLE 11.4 BILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SOONEST MOMENT THAT OUR BUDGET PROCESS WILL ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE IT.

AND AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES TO BRING THEM TO THE TABLE TO GROW THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO IN FACT, THE OECD, THE ORGANIZATION, ECONOMIC COOPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ANALYZES THIS MONEY, HAS SAID THAT FOR-- THAT FOR NEXT YEAR WE WERE AT ABOUT 98 BILLION AND NOW THANKS TO JAPAN CONTRIBUTING YESTERDAY, WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE WORLD BANK TO PUT IN MORE, WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED BILLION FOR NEXT YEAR, AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY OVER A HUNDRED BILLION FOR EACH OF THE YEARS THEREAFTER.

SO THE UNITED STATES IS NOT ONLY LIVING UP TO THAT PROMISE UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN, BUT PRESIDENT BIDEN PUT $9 BILLION ON THE TABLE TO DEAL WITH DEFORESTATION AND UNLESS WE DEAL WITH DEFORESTATION WE CAN'T ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE.

SO FOR THE AMAZON AND THE CONGRESSO BASIN AND FOR THE SOUTHEAST ASIAN FORESTS, WE NOW HAVE AN ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DEAL WITH DEFORESTATION.

SO WE ARE MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS HERE AND I KNOW THE PRESIDENT WERE GHANA, I TALKED TO HIM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND I THINK PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT THE HUNDRED BILLION IS ON THE TABLE NOW.

IT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED FOR NEXT YEAR, AND GOING FORWARD.

AND A LOT MORE.

>> Braude: SPEAKING OF TRUMP AND HIS COLLEAGUES, HOW MUCH IS THE FAILURE TO ACT IN CONGRESS AND NOT JUST UNIVERSAL REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION BUT THE FAILURE OF YOUR FELLOW DEMOCRATS TO ACT ON THESE CLIMATE PROVISIONS, NOT TO MENTION THE EXCISE OF ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PROVISION COURTESY OF SENATOR MANCHIN.

HOW MUCH DOES THAT HURT YOUR EFFORT AT COP-26.

>> WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR, WOULD IT BE YOU KNOW, GOOD TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE CERTAIN THINGS TO BE ABLE TO SHOW, YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER BUT IT HASN'T HURT US.

IT REALLY HASN'T HURT US.

BECAUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN PUT SO MUCH ON THE TABLE.

HE CAME HERE PERSONALLY, SPENT TWO DAYS, MEETINGS AND TAKING PART IN VARIOUS EVENTS.

AND I THINK PEOPLE HERE KNOW WHAT HE IS FIGHTING FOR.

AND I BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO GET THIS LEGISLATION THROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MOMENT WILL BE.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT CONGRESS WILL YOU KNOW, PASS THIS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND THE PRESIDENT WILL GET IT AND THE WORLD WILL SEE IT.

BUT THE WORLD KNOWS THAT HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT MOVING ON THIS.

AND WE WILL HAVE, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 CABINET SECRETARIES WITHOUT WILL BE COMING THROUGH, WORKING ON ENERGY, THE JENNIFER GRANHOLM, AGRICULTURE, AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO WILL BE COMING, AND I THINK THEY WILL SENSE THE ANTICIPATING OF THE WORLD FOR OUR AK, SO I'M CONFIDENT WE WILL BE THERE.

I THINK THE PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND THE RECONCILIATION ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

AND MY SENSE IS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT AS WELL AS SOME PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING HERE IN GLASGOW WITHOUT IT.

AND THEN BELIEVE ME, NOBODY HAS RAISED IT WITH ME.

NOT ONE CONVERSATION HAS ANYBODY SAID TO ME YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT T WHAT IS GOING ON, HASN'T HAPPENED.

BUT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL?

YOU BET.

IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO WALK IN A MEETING AND SAY LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND USE IT AS LEVERAGE.

>> Braude: CAN WE SPEND THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES TALKING ABOUT NOT ATTITUDES IN SCOTLAND BUT ATTITUDES WHERE YOU BOTH LIVE ABOUT A MILE OR SO FROM WHERE I AM SITTING.

STARTING WITH YOU, DR. KERRY, THE FIRES, DRAUGHT AND FLOODS, 70 PLUS MILLION PEOPLE LAST YEAR VOTED FOR A PROUD CLIMATE DENIER, DO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS A WHOLE GET IT AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, AND I WILL JUST BE FROM AS A PHYSICIAN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, CARING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE VERY MUCH COME IN FROM SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF THIS.

AND I THINK IN THE PUBLIC POLICY REALM, YEAH, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT ALLOWSES PEOPLE TO LIVE IN BUBBLES OF COMMUNITIES ONLINE AND ELSEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN REALLY SHELTER THEMSELVES WITH A CERTAIN AM OF INFORMATION.

AND SO I THINK PART OF IT IS HOW WE STRUCTURALLY EXIST IN OUR WORLD TODAY.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY SOME OF THESE EXPERIENCES, AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY WOULD COME IN WHO HAS TRULY BEEN AFFECTED SUDDENLY AND IS ACTUALLY SICK WERE SOME OF THESE EFFECTS, BE IT FIRE, SMOKE, SMOG, AS MA ATTACKS AMONG THEIR CHILDREN AND YOU START IT TO EDUCATE, PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN.

SO I THINK THAT UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH THE KIND OF MISINFORMATION PANDEMIC WE ALSO FACE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE MINDS AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS.

I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AS A COMMUNITY TRYING O FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THOSE VERY DIRECT CONNECTIONS BECAUSE THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE ARE VERY REAL AM AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT ST DEVASTATING TORNADOES, INCREASED NUMBER OF STREAMING EVENTS, RAPID RISE OF HEALTH, THE RISING DROUGHT HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CLI, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING IT TO BECOME VERY REAL POR PEOPLE PROGRESSIVELY.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, WE ARE BEING TO HAVE TO FIND STRATEGIES IT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE BETTER CONNECTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH DON'T SEE THAT CONNECTIVITY IN THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THE INFORMATION SOURCES WE GET ARE NOT WITH YOU NOW HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT, THEY ARE ON FACEBOOK AMONG A SMALL CLUSTER OF FRIENDS THAT THEY ARE SORT OF SEQUESTERED BY, AND THE DEGREE OF MISINFORMATION IS PRETTY PROFOUND.

WE COMBAT IT ALL THE TIME.

AND IT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO GET OVER BECAUSE PEOPLE TRUST THE PEOPLE THEY KNOW.

NOT PEOPLE WHO THEY DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION TO.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MY DAD'S PER SPECTIVE ON THIS WHO HAS BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS IN THE POLITICAL LENS FOR YOU KNOW, A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE.

>> Braude: LET'S END WITH THAT, FORGET DENIALISM AMONGST LEADERS, HOW ABOUT AMONGST YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS, SECRETARY KERRY?

>> WELL, I THINK THERE IS LESS DENIALISM NOW, IN FACT, JIM.

HAS IT BEEN A PROBLEM?

YEAH, IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.

IT IS WHY WE ARE BEHIND IN THE EFFORT TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING, MOTHER NATURE HAS BEEN SPENDING SOME PRETTY POWERFUL MESSAGES TO EVERYBODY.

AND THE FLOODS IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTRY, THE FARMS THAT HAVE BEEN WIPED OUT.

THE FORESTS OF CALIFORNIA, THE EXTRAORDINARY WATER PROBLEM IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY AROUND NEVADA, COLORADO, CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, THE HEAT, THE LEVEL OF HEALTH, THE DRAUGHT, THE MUD SLIDES, YOU ADD IT ALL UP, AND I'M TELLING YOU, THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT MORE BELIEVERS TODAY THAN THERE EVER WERE BEFORE AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR COUNTRY ABSOLUTELY WANTS US TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CRISIS, IT'S A MATTER OF RESPONSIBILITY, INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN RESPONSIBILITY AND PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITIES.

THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT WILL RESULT IN A CLEANER, HEALTHIER, AND SAFER UNITED STATES AND WORLD.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

I VOTED THOUSANDS OF TIMES AS THE UNITED STATES SENATOR.

SOMETIMES YOUING A ONIZED OVER WHAT THE IMPACT AND PLUSES AND MINE USES WERE FOR A TAX CODE OR FOR INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS THAT BALANCE.

THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.

THIS IS NOT A HARD CHOICE.

THIS IS THE EASIEST THING YOU CAN POSSIBLY CHOOSE TO VOTE ON BECAUSE THE HEALTH BENEFITS AS VANESSA HAS DESCRIBED ARE EXTRAORDINARY.

THE PARTICLATES IN THE AIR FROM COAL DUST THAT GO AROUND THE PLANET, DROP INTO THE OCEAN, ACID PHI THE OCEAN, CHANGING THE CHESM STREE OF THE SOCIAL FASTER THAN IT HAS BEEN CHANGED IN MILLIONS OF YEARS, THE IMPACT OF THIS ARE JUST STUNNING AM YOU COULD HAVE A COMPLETE COLLAPSE OF AGRICULTURE IN AFRICA.

AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR TO GET INTO OTHER COUNTRIES.

THAT IS A SECURITY THREAT.

THAT IS WHY I SAY WE WILL BE SAFER IF WE DEAL WITH THIS.

AND EVERY SINGLE ANALYSIS SHOWS IT IS FAR, FAR MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU WAIT AND JUST SUFFER THE DAMAGE THAN IT IS TO INVEST IN THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, MAKE THIS TRANSITION, CREATE A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE, WITH ALL OF THE JOBS THAT THAT WILL ENTAIL AND THE BEN FILTS THAT COME WITH IT.

SO I JUST THINK YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS FIGHT.

IT IT MAY TAKE A FEW YEARS HERE, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, WE ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF GLASGOW WITH A LEVEL OF AMBITION THAT IS GOING TO SURPRISE PEOPLE.

AND IF WE GET ABOUT, AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, THE UNBELIEVABLE.

GOOGLE, APPLE, AMAZON, MAJOR SHIPPERS, MARSCK IS HERE, THEY COMMITTED TO BUY A NEW ROUND OF SHIPS THAT ARE CARBONFREE.

WE HAVE UNBELIEVABLE CONTRIBUTIONS BEING MADE AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.

>> YOU KNOW, YOU TWO HAVE A LOT OF COMMON INTERESTS, IF YOUR SCHEDULES PERMIT MAYBE YOU COULDI3 SPEND SOME TIME TOGETHER AND TALK.

IT IT WOULD BE VERY PRODUCTIVE.

SECRETARY KERRY.

>> I WANT YOU TO KNOW, JIM, I DID NOT INVITE HER TO COME TO GLASGOW.

SHE WAS INVITED ALL BY HERSELF.

>> Braude: I DON'T HI SHE WANTED TO BE TOLD THAT.

>> FUN MOMENT FOR OUR WHERE OUR WORLDS COLLIDE, AND IT HAS BEEN A BLAST.

>> Braude: DR. KERRY, SECRETARY CERTIFICATEY, I-- KERRY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TAND YOUR WORK, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BYE DAD.

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