BOSTON," THE LONGEST NURSES STRIKE IN STATE HISTORY MARKS EIGHT MONTHS TODAY.

BUT WHAT STARTED OVER STAFFING AND WORKING CONDITIONS AT SAINT VINCENT HOSPITAL IN WORCESTER IS NOW A STANDOFF OVER WHAT NURSESv: SAY IS PURE RETALIATION.

ONE OF THE NURSES UNION'S LEAD NEGOTIATORS JOINS.

TENET, WHICH OWNS THE HOSPITAL, DECLINED.

THEN LATER, YOU'VE HEARD OF SHADY TAX SHELTERS IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS, BUT WHAT ABOUT SOUTH DAKOTA?

JOURNALISTS WITH GBH'S "FRONTLINE" ARE AMONG HUNDREDS WHO'VE BEEN DIGGING THROUGH A TROVE OF LEAKED FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS THAT REVEAL HOW A GLOBAL ENTANGLEMENT OF POLITICAL POWER, AND SECRETIVE FINANCIAL DEALS ARE SHELTERING TRILLIONS IN CONTROVERSIAL ASSETS.

THE NEW DOCUMENTARY ABOUT IT ALL, "PANDORA PAPERS," PREMIERES TOMORROW.

AND FINALLY, LETTERS TO CLEO LEAD SINGER KAY HANLEY ON THE BOSTON-BASED BAND'S RETURN TO THE ROAD POST-COVID, AND THEIR RETURN TO WHAT HAD BEEN THEIR ANNUAL HOMECOMING CONCERT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Braude: IT'S BEEN EIGHT M ONTHS TO THE DAY SINCE SEVERAL HUNDRED NURSES WALKED OFF THE JOB AT SAINT VINCENT HOSPITAL IN WORCESTER BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAID WERE STAFFING LEVELS AND OTHER WORKING CONDITIONS THAT MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP PATIENTS SAFE.

>> THIS STRIKE NEEDS TO END, AND IT NEEDS TO END NOW.

>> Braude: WHILE I'M SURE HE'S SAYING THE SAME THING NOW, THAT WAS WORCESTER MAYOR JOE PETTY BACK IN SEPTEMBER, CALLING ON THE FOR-PROFIT COMPANY THAT RUNS SAINT VINCENT, TENET HEALTHCARE, TO GET THEIR WORKERS BACK ON THE JOB.

BUT TODAY, THE COMPANY AND THE MASSACHUSETTS NURSES ASSOCIATION ARE STILL AT ODDS.

TENET HAS HIRED A COUPLE HUNDRED REPLACEMENT NURSES AND CLOSED HUNDREDS OF INPATIENT BEDS SINCE THE START OF THE STRIKE, EVEN AS DELTA CAUSED ANOTHER COVID SURGE IN THE REGION.

I'M JOINED NOW BY LONG-TIME SAINT VINCENT NURSE, AND THE CO-CHAIR OF THE MASSACHUSETTS NURSES ASSOCIATION'S LOCAL BARGAINING UNIT, MARLENA PELLEGRINO.

WE ALSO ASKED REPRESENTATIVES FROM TENET HEALTHCARE TO JOIN US.

THEY DECLINED.

MARLENE AH THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME JIM.

>> Braude: EIGHT MONTHS IS SO LONG.

EIGHT MONTHS LATER, YOU'D STILL BE OUT, WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IT?

>> I WOULD HAVE DONE IT.

THE TRADITIONS WERE LIKE THAT AND WE HAD TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE.

I WOULD NEVER HAVE BELIEVED IT THAT I WOULD BE OUT HERE FOR THIS LONG BUT NO REGRETS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.

WE TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE, AND IT DIDN'T WORK WITH THIS CORPORATION.

AND AT A CERTAIN POINT NURSES HAD TO TAKE A STAND.

WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD IN THE BUILDING TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

AND IT'S TIME THAT -- WE HAVE DO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO IN HEALTH CARE.

IT ISN'T WORKING FOR PATIENTS, THEY'RE BEING HARMED.

>> Braude: MY UNDERSTANDING IS STAFFING LEVELS THAT YOU FELT WAS SAFE AND ADEQUATE, PATIENT CARE AND A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT HAD BEEN AGREED UPON AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TENET DROCHES ON YOU, YES WE'LL AGREE ON STAFFING LEVELS BUT NOT X NUMBER OF NURSES WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE HAVE THEIR JOBS GUARANTEED TO RETURN.

IS THAT HOW IT HAPPENED?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST, AUGUST 16th, WE HAD MET WITH THE HOSPITAL.

THAT WAS THE LAST IN-PERSON MEETING.

AND AT THAT TIME AS NURSES WE FELT WHAT WAS ON THEJj TABLE, WHAT THE HOSPITAL WAS OFFERING TO STAFFING WAS SOMETHING WE COULD WORK WITH.

IT WOULD PROVIDE BETTER CARE FOR OUR PATIENTS, SAFER STAFFING AND WE WERE VERY CLOSE AT THAT TIME FOR A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE MONTHS LATER AND THEIR RETURN TO WORK AGREEMENT THAT THEY SLID ACROSS THAT TABLE THAT DAY, WAS ONE RETALIATORY PAGE AFTER THE OTHER AND NOT RETURNING NURSES TO THEIR PREEIVES POSITION IS NOTHING MORE THAN PUNISHMENT FOR STANDING UP FOR ADVOCATING FOR OUR PATIENTS.

IT'S UNHEARD OF AND UNPRECEDENTED IN ANY LABOR DISPUTE.

WHEN TWO PARTIES COME TOGETHER, THEY'RE READY TO SETTLE, THE NURSES RETURNED TO THEIR PREVIOUS POSITIONS TO MAINTAIN CAN SAFETY AND STABILITY.

THAT'S WHEN PARTIES WANT TO COME TOGETHER.

WHAT TENET DID WAS DLOOU DOWN A GAUNTLET AND WANTED TO CONTINUE THE WAR.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD AGREE TO TO HAVE 100 NURSES LOSE THEIR POSITIONS.

>> Braude: 100.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A NURSE?

>> I'VE BEEN A NURSE FOR 35 YEARS.

ARE.

>> Braude: HOW LONG HAVE YOU WORKED AT ST. VINCENT,.

>> I LOVE TO BE A STAFF PERSON.

>> Braude: HOW HAVE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES MADE IT THROUGH TWO-THIRDS OF A YEAR?

>> IT'S PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE.

IT TAKES A LOT OF STAMINA AND FORTITUDE.

GOOD AND BAD DAYS.

NO KIDDING ASIDE, THIS IS CHALLENGING.

IT AFFECTS YOU PSYCHOLOGICALLY, PYSICALLY, IT TAKES A TOLL ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.

>> Braude: HOW THE DO YOU PAY YOUR BILLS?

>> WELL, NURSES ARE CRE CREATIVE AND WE ARE WORKING.

WE ARE TAKING TEMPORARY POSITIONS EVERYWHERE.

WE ARE DOING VACCINE CLINICS, HOSPITALS, REHAB CENTERS, THEY ARE OPENING AROUND TO US THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

WE ARE CARING FOR PATIENTS.

WE WOULD RATHER BE CARING FOR PATIENTS AT ST. VINCENT'S HOGS BUT IT APPEARS THEY DON'T WANT US ALL BACK THERE SO WE ARE TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I ASSUME WHEN I LOOKED THIS UP TODAY THAT TENET WAS ATTEMPTING, WOULD ATTEMPT TO SHIELD HOW PROFITABLE THEY WERE BECAUSE HOW ELSE DO YOU RATIONALIZE NOT REHIKER FAILURES MOST OF WHOM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, MAYBE NOT AS LONG AS YOU, HOW DO YOU RATIONALIZE SHUTTING DOWN BEDS THAT ARE NECESSARY IN A COMMUNITY IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC?

I LOOKED UP THESE NUMBERS.

THEY HAVE HAD A WILDLY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PROFIT IN 2021.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SITTING AT THE TABLE, HOW DO THEY RATIONALIZE MAKING THE KINDS OF CUTS AND ENGAGING IN THE KINDS OF RETALIATION, AND I AGREE THE WORD IS APPROPRIATE I THINK, HOW DO THEY RATIONALIZE EITHER OF THOSE THINGS?

>> THEY REALLY DON'T.

THERE ACTUALLY IS NO SHAME IN THIS CORPORATION.

THEY HAVE PROFITED OFF OF PANDEMIC, THEY HAVE PROFITED OFF OF PATIENT SUFFERING.

THEY MAKE NO BONES ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE.

THIS IS PURELY -- THERE IS A DIFFERENT AGENDA HERE THAN WHEN WE STARTED THE STRIKE.

TENET HAS MADE IT CLEAR, THEY WANT TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THE NURSES, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.

AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN A GROUP OF NURSES WHO STOOD UP FOR THEIR PATIENTS AND SILENCED THEIR VOICES, AND FOR UNION RIGHTS, THAT SETS A RECORD, AND IT'S VERY SAD AND IT'S A RED FLAG FOR EVERY AMERICAN FOR EVERY PERSON WHO'S EVER BEEN A PATIENT, WHO WILL BE A PATIENT, FOR EVERY FAMILY MEMBER WHO, A FOR PROFIT CORPORATION CAN DO THIS, AND AFFECT HEALTH CARE THIS WAY, VERY DANGEROUS.

>> Braude: WHAT KIND OF ANGER DO YOU FEEL TOWARDS THIS COMPANY?

AGAIN I REPEAT THIS IS A FOR-PROFIT HOSPITAL WHICH TO A LOT OF PEOPLE SOUNDS OXYMORE ONTIC.

OF A YOU DEDICATE YOUR WHOLE DAMN WORK LIFE TO THESE PATIENTS?

>> ACTUALLY I FEEL VERY -- THEIR BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN WHAT I WOULD CALL VERY EMBARRASSING FOR A HEALTH CARE CORPORATION.

I FEEL VERY SAD THAT THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS ANGER AND FRUSTRATION.

WE TRY OUPLIFT EACH OTHER ON THE PICKET LINE.

WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 245 DAYS.

MOSTLY WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IS HOW THEY ARE SELF-SERVING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD PUT ASIDE TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS SAFELY.

THEY ARE HARMING TOWER COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE HARMING THE ENTIRE STATE FOR THEIR OWN POWER, GREED AND EGO AND THAT IS VERY SAD.

IT'S DISTURBING.

SO I TRY -- I'M NOT AN ANGRY PERSON.

I'M AN OPTIMISTIC PERSON BUT NURSES ARE VERY TOUGH.

AND WHEN YOU GET IN FRONT OF OUR ABILITY TO CARE FOR OUR PATIENTS WE BECOME VERY -- LIKE MAMA MIAS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG AND CANNOT -- OUR CONSCIOUS DOES NOT -- CONSCIENCE DOES NOT ALLOW THAT.

>> Braude: MARLENA, YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN AIN INSPIRATION TO AIL OF US.

WE WISH YOU LUCK AND HOPE THIS ENDS TOMORROW.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT.

>> Braude: THANK YOU.

UP NEXT, A STORY INVOLVING THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND TRILLIONS IN HIDDEN ASSETS.

JORDAN'S KING ABDULLAH AND FORMER U.K. PRIME MINISTER TONY BLAIR, MUSICIANS ELTON JOHN, RINGO STARR AND SHAKIRA, AND VLADAMIR PUTIN'S FORMER MISTRESS, WITH WHOM HE'S RUMORED TO SHARE A DAUGHTER, ARE AMONG HUNDREDS OF WORLD LEADERS, CELEBRITIES AND OTHER RICHEST OF THE RICH WHO'VE BEEN USING OFFSHORE FINANCIAL SERVICES, INCOGNITO BANK ACCOUNTS AND SHELL COMPANIES AROUND THE WORLD AND HERE IN THE U.S., TO HIDE THEIR MONEY.

AS A RESULT, THEY PAY LITTLE TO NO TAXES.

AND IT APPEARS MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF THE MONEY-STASHING IS LEGAL.

THE REVELATIONS ARE LAID OUT IN THE PANDORA PAPERS, THE RESULT OF A TWO-YEAR INVESTIGATION INTO NEARLY 12-MILLION CONFIDENTIAL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS THAT WERE LEAKED TO THE INTERNATIONAL CONSORTIUM OF INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS, AND THEN ANALYZED BY HUNDREDS IN 117 COUNTRIES INCLUDING PBS'S "FRONTLINE," WHICH IS OUT WITH A NEW TWO-PART DOCUMENTARY ON THE SUBJECT.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE, ACCUSED OF SOME VERY BAD THINGS WHO ARE USING THIS SYSTEM TO HIDE THEIR WEALTH.

NOT ONLY POTENTIALLY FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND THE TAXING AUTHORITIES IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES BUT ALSO FROM THE VICTIMS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES WHO MIGHT HAVE A CLAIM TO SOME OF THAT MONEY.

>> Braude: "PANDORA PAPERS" PREMIERES TOMORROW NIGHT.

I'M JOINED NOW BY THE PRODUCER, EVAN WILLIAMS, AND INTERNATIONAL CONSORTIUM OF INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS REPORTER WILL FITZGIBBON.

WILL, EVAN, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Braude: WILL, COULD I START WITH YOU?

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE TO BEGIN WITH.

WHILE THESE PEOPLE MAY HAVE BROKEN LAWS HOW THEY MADE THEIR MONEY, FOR THE MOST PART TOTALLY THEY ARE NOT BREAKING LAWS HOW THEY ARE HIDING THEIR MONEY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER AT THIS STAGE REALLY IS WE DON'T KNOW AND WE CAN'T SAY.

I MEAN THESE 12 MILLION RECORDS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, DON'T IN MANY OCCASIONS EXPLICHTLYEXPLICITLY SAY WHETHER SOMETHING IS ILLEGAL OR NOT.

BE PEOPLE AREN'T AS STUPID TO SAY PLEASE DON'T, VERY OFTEN GOVERNMENTS LEARN ABOUT THEIR OWN CITIZENS ARE FROM THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE SEE PUBLISHED.

IN MONTHS OR YEARS TIME, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IN SEEING COURT CASES ARAISING FROM THIS.

>> Braude: EVAN, YOU FOCUSED ON THE KING OF JORDAN AND AN INTIMATE FRIEND OF VLADIMIR PUTIN.

CAN YOU START WITH HER?

>> SVETLANA STARTED AS A CLEANER.

HOW THESE INVESTIGATIONS WORK, JUST ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE ICIJ, WILL AND HIS FOLKS WERE SHARING THESE DOCUMENTS AROUND THE WORLD, A WEBSITE PUBLISHED A INVESTIGATION INTO SVETLANA,ING SHORTLY AFTER HER ALLEGED AFFAIR WITH PRESIDENT VEURNT AND REPORTEDLY -- VLADIMIR PUTIN AND REPORTEDLY HAVING HIS CHILD, HIS DAUGHTER.

ONE OF THE JOURNALISTS FROM THE BRITISH GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER, THEY FOUND HER NAME AND BASICALLY THE DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT SHE WAS THE SECRET OWNER OF A SHELL COMPANY AND THAT SHELL COMPANY OWNED AN APARTMENT IN MONACO AND THREE PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE GOT THE STORY.

SVETLANA SHORTLY AFTER HAVING PRESIDENT PUTIN'S CHILD GOT AN APARTMENT IN MONACO.

>> Braude: RAGS TO RICHES I SHOULD SAY.

SPEAK GOING THIS VERY ISSUE.

>> WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT PUTIN AND HIS FRIENDS, HIS KIND OF INNER CIRCLE, PARTICULARLY FRIENDS FROM ST. PETERSBURG, HAVE BECOME EXTREMELY RICH.

MAINLY ON THE BACK OF STATE RESOURCES: OIL, GAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY'VE CREATED THESE COLOSSAL OFFSHORE STRUCTURES WHERE THEIR ASSETS ARE BEING HIDDEN.

AND ALSO THAT IT'S BEING DONE WITH HELP FROM THE WEST.

>> Braude: WILL, WHAT DOES HELP FROM THE WEST MEANS EXACTLY?

>> WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS CRIMINALS AND OLIGARCHS AND ANYONE WHO YOU MIGHT YOU KNOW IN YOUR IMAGINATION, IMAGINE RUNNING OFF TO A PALM FRINGED TAX HAVEN WITH A SUITCASE OF CASH, DOESN'T DO IT ALONE.

EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND WE SEE THIS IN INTRICATE DETAIL IN THE PANDORA PAPERS IS HELPED BY WESTERN PROFESSIONALS, OFTEN WEARING A TIE OR A NICE SHIRT, YOU KNOW, IN LONDON, IN NEW YORK CITY, IN ZURICH, IN AMSTERDAM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I THINK PANDORA PAPERS PUNCHES THROUGH THAT OLD LAZY NARRATIVE OF CRIMINALITY BEING DONE BY THE CRIMINAL.

IT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE MILLIONS, LET ALONE BILLIONS, FROM RUSSIA INTO NIGERIA OR TAX HAVEN BE THAT MONACO OR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

>> Braude: YOU MENTIONED THE KING OF JORDAN, SVETLANA ON STEROIDS, YOU CAN'T CALL THEM INVESTMENTS, HIS DEPOSITS IN WHATEVER PART OF THE WORLD.

>> HE IS CERTAINLY BEATING SVETLANA.

11 LUXURY HOMES INCLUDING A TRIO OF SIDE BY SIDE MANSIONS IN MALIBU, CALIFORNIA OVERLOOKING THE PACIFIC OCEAN.

LIKE EVAN HAD SAID IN THE CASE OF THE RUSSIAN HAD BOUGHT THESE PROPERTIES SECRETLY THROUGH SHELL COMPANIES.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE PUBLIC, NOT ONLY CURIOUS JOURNAL YOUISTS LIKE EVAN AND MYSELF BUT CITIZENS OF HIS COUNTRY, WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN ABOUT HIS EMPIRE WERE IT NOT FOR THESE LEAKED REPORTS.

>> Braude: WHEN THESE DOCUMENTS CAME OUT, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME OUT IS WHERE IS JEFF BEZOS ANDEE LON MUSK.

THEY ARE -- ANDEE AND ELON MUSK.

>> THIS IS A VERY MUCH STILL ALIVE INVESTIGATION.

I KNOW THAT WILL AND THE ICIJ AND THE "WASHINGTON POST" COLLEAGUES ARE STILL COMING UNWITH TWO OR THREE VERY STRONG LEADS THAT WILL BE COMING OUT IN MONTHS TO COME AS WILL FRONT LINE.

AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

THIS IS JUST A LIVETROPHY OF DOCUMENTS, WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE IT WILL GO YET.

WHAT IT SAYS IS THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WILL FOUND THIS OUT, A LOT OF POLITICAL LEADERS, WHAT SEEMS TO BE AHOLD OF THIS ONE IS A LOT OF PLOSIONS POLITICIANS AROUND THE COUNTRY, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, IF WE ARE EXPECTING REFORM WE ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SEE IT WITH THE CURRENT POLITICAL LEADERS THAT ARE THERE.

THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE TO BE REVEALED.

>> Braude: WILL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU ARE MR. SOUTH DAKOTA, IS THAT ACCURATE, TO CHARACTERIZE HERE?

I WAS SO PROW OF MYSELF THAT I KNOW ABOUT THE CAYMAN ISLANDS, THE BAHAMAS AND I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT THESE TRUSTS IN SOUTH DAKOTA, CAN YOU FLUSH THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT FOR US?

>> CERTAINLY.

MAYBE I WAS MR. SOUTH DAKOTA, BUT MISREPORTING PARTNER IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" COULD DEFINITELY BE ALSO SOUTH DAKOTA IN THAT REGARD.

WE WORKED SIDE BY SIDE.

BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE MOST FASCINATING AND MOST IMPORTANT REVELATION HE OF THE PANDORA PAPERS.

FOR THE FIRST TIME WE HAD LEAKED DOCUMENTS THAT COME FROM INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

NOW FOR IN OTHER WORDS NERDS OUT THERE, THEY HAVE HEARD ARE RUMORS THIS SOUTH DAKOTA IS A TAX HAVEN.

IT IS A PLACE THAT HAS VERY LAX RULES, INCREDIBLY TIGHT SECRECY, WHICH MEANS ANYONE WISHES TO MOVE MILLIONS OR BILLIONS INTO THE STATE IS BASICALLY PROTECTED FOREVER.

BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD LEAKED DOCUMENTS TO PROVE THOSE DOCUMENTS BEFORE AND FOR ME INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM IS MOVING THINGS FROM RUMOR TO CONCRETE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME WE COULD SAY HERE ARE THESE BRAZILIAN BILLIONAIRES, A KOREAN MULTIMILLION AREA,MILLIONAIRE, THESE PEOPLE IN RECENT YEARS HAVE BEEN MOVING AWAY FROM THE CAYMAN ISLANDS, BECAUSE THOSE TAX HAVENS HAVE FRS REFORMED THEMSELVES AND WHO HASN'T?

SOUTH DAKOTA.

>> Braude: OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD LOSE A TON OF DOUGH.

>> WELL I THINK THAT'S A REAL QUESTION THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO.

I MEAN THERE ARE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD WHO HAVE REACTED TO THE PANDORA PAPERS EVEN DID AS WE DAY THIS INTERVIEW, THE PRESIDENT OF CHILE IS BEING IMPEACHED IN HIS OWN COUNTRY, YET THE DEATHLY SILENCE OF FEEX IN SOUTH DAKOTA, IN RESPONSE TO THE PANDORA PAPERS IS DEATHLY INLT IS A.

FOR HUGE CHANGES, I HAVE HEARD RUMORS THAT SOUTH DAKOTA DOES FEEL A LITTLE BIT DISLIKED AT THE MOMENT, THEY FEEL A LITTLE BATTERED AND BRUISED AFTER THE PANDORA PAPERS, THERE MAY BE TWEAKS TO LEGISLATION COMING UP BUT WHY THE UNITED STATES HAS BECOME ONE OF THE MOST PREEMINENT TAX HAVENS IS NOT GOING AWAY TOO SOON.

>> Braude: I HOPE NOT O.

WE CAN END BY A REPORTER FROM THE "WASHINGTON POST" EXPLAINING, WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT THIS?

OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE RICH ARE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, WHY SHOULD I CARE?

WHY DOES IT MATTER TO REAL PEOPLE?

>> I THINK IT MATTERS HUGELY.

BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING FUNNELED INTO THE SECRET SYSTEM IS OFTEN FROM COUNTRIES WHERE THAT MONEY IS MEANT TO BE SPENT, ON THE SERVICES AND LOOKING AFTER THEIR OWN CITIZENS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SQUIRRELING AWAY TAX MONEY, SHOULD BE PAID IN TAX NUMBER 1.

NUMBER 2, WE DON'T KNOW AND PARTICULARLY THE CASE IN THE UNITED STATES, DENNIE HAS MADE THE POINT VERY PLAINLY, THIS IS A THIN TIP OF THE EYE BERG, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, ABOUT WHO ELSE IS USING THIS SECRET SYSTEM.

THERE ARE DRUG RUNNERS, ARE THERE TERRORISTS, ARE THERE MASSIVE SECRECY HOW MONEY IS BEING USED, TO ELICIT MONEY FROM AROUND THE WORLD, REALLY THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY DRILL DOWN ON THE SOURCES OF THAT MONEY.

AND THE TYPE OF PEOPLE PUTTING IT IN THERE.

AS WE SAW IN THE SEVERAL EXAMPLES IN THE FILM AND IN THE REPORTING FROM WILLEM DEBBIE.

>> Braude: IF YOU WANT TO GET ENRAGED, WATCH THIS ON PBS.

YOU GUYS DID GREAT WORK, YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.

THANKS SO MUCH, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

PART ONE OF "THE PANDORA PAPERS" PREMIERES TONIGHT AT 10:00, RIGHT HERE ON GBH 2.

YOU CAN ALSO FIND IT ON THE PBS VIDEO APP.

NEXT UP, AFTER A COVID-FORCED TWO YEARS AWAY FROM THE STAGE, LETTERS TO CLEO IS HITTING THE ROAD AGAIN.

THE BOSTON-BASED ALT-ROCK BAND FIRST ROSE TO FAME IN THE '90S, WITH HITS LIKE THIS: ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ THAT'S LETTERS TO CLEO'S 2016 SHOW.

AT THE PARADISE ROCK CLUB IN ALLSTON, SHORTLY AFTER THEY RELEASED THEIR FIRST RECORDING IN 17 YEARS.

IT WAS THE FIRST OF WHAT BECAME AN ANNUAL TRADITION OF HOMECOMING SHOWS THERE.

THAT WAS, UNTIL THE PANDEMIC.

BUT NOW, THEY'RE BACK, KICKING OFF A MINI-TOUR IN CALIFORNIA LATER THIS WEEK AND RETURNING HOME ONCE AGAIN TO THE PARADISE NEXT WEEKEND.

I'M JOINED NOW BY LEAD SINGER, DORCHESTER'S OWN KAY HANLEY.

KAY IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> HEY JIM GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> Braude: SO LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE YOU WERE ABOUT TO DO OHOT STOVE, COOL MUSIC VIRTUALLY.

HAVE YOU PERFORMED IN FRONT OF HUMAN BEINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS?

YOU HAVEN'T HAVE YOU?

HAVE YOU?

>> GO, I HAVEN'T!

-- NO, I HAVEN'T.

NO.

>> Braude: HOW STRANGE, THIS LIKE RIDING A BIKE?

HOW STRANGEth?

>> NO, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT LIKE RIDING A BIKE.

>> Braude: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> IT'S LIKE UM -- I CAN'T REALLY LIKEN IT TO ANYTHING ELSE.

I KNOW HOW TO DO THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS YOU KNOW PLAY THESE SONGS THAT WE WROTE AND WE PLAY TOGETHER A ZILLION TIMES.

BUT THERE IS KIND OF A TRUST FALL THAT GOES INTO PLAYING LIVE FOR PEOPLE, THAT BECOMES -- I GUESS YOU START PERCEIVING IT THAT WAY BECAUSE YOU DO IT SO MUCH.

AND AFTER EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO BE IN AN AUDIENCE, AUDIENCE MEMBER ANYMORE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW HOW TO PERFORM ANYMORE.

AND SO IT'S -- IT FEELS EXTREMELY -- IT FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT IN A WAY, THAT IS THE BEST PLACE FOR -- IN MY EXPERIENCE, FOR ART TO COME FROM.

THE SO -- AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR AUDIENCE, THAT WE BUILT OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, 30 YEARS YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW YOU'RE MAKING ME NERVOUS AND I'M NOT EVEN PART OF THE BAND BY THE WAY.

>> BUT THAT'S THE THING.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT OKAY IT'S STILL TOTALLY GOING TO BE OKAY.

>> Braude: HOW MUCH FUN SIT TO GET BACK WITH YOUR BAND MATES AND DO THIS?

IS IT HUGE, I ASSUME?

>> IT'S GREAT.

THE REASON WE DO THIS IS BECAUSE HEY IT'S MY NEW HUSBAND!

>> Braude: HEY HUSBAND.

>> I JUST GOT MARRIED BY THE WAY.

GBH IS SAYING HELLO.

>> Braude: HELLO, HOW ARE YOU.

>> I GOT MARRIED LAST WEEKEND.

>> Braude: YOU DID?

>> YEAH.

>> Braude: CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PRESS PACKAGE.

JUST BETWEEN ME AND YOU JIM.

IT WILL BE JUST OUR LITTLE FRIENDS LIKE FRIENDS TALKING AMONGST FRIENDS.

>> Braude: HE'S NOT IN THE BAND IS HE?

>> NO, NO.

MY EX-HUSBAND IS IN THE BAND.

IT'S ALL VERY -- >> Braude: PERFECT SYMMETRY.

I GOT IT.

>> IT'S A BIG HAPPY FAMILY.

>> Braude: I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE PARADISE TO SEE YOU WEEKEND AFTER NEXT, I'LL GIVE THE DATES IN A MINUTE.

WHO IS YOUR AUDIENCE, IS IT MOSTLY THOSE FROM THE 90s, WHO COMES OUT?

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED.

A LOT OF -- WE WILL BE SEEING PEOPLE AT THE PARADISE THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEK SINCE -- THAT PREDATE EVEN LETTERS TO CLEO.

PEOPLE WHO CAME TO SEE MY AND GREG'S FIRST BAND AT 1988 AT T T THE BEAR'S WE WILLING SEE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE.

>> Braude: OH MY GOD!

>> IT'S AMAZING.

AND THEN IT WILL BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING US SINCE THE 90s WHEN WE HAD SONGS ON THE RADIO AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DID NOT GET TO KNOW US NO.

KNOW US UNTIL TEN THINGS I HATE ABOUT YOU AND JOSIE AND THE PUSSY CATS.

MY KIDS THEIR FRIENDS MY NIECES AND NEPHEWS AND THEIR FRIENDS.

IT'S JUST LIKE -- IT'S LITERALLY THREE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE AND OUR PARENTS.

>> Braude: SO MORE THAN PERFORMING, YOU HAVE BEEN PERFORMING FOR TV ANIMATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR A WHILE.

I JUST WANT TO SPEND A MINUTE ON YOU CO-FOUNDED A REALLY IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION, SONGWRITERS OF NORTH AMERICA.

TELL PEOPLE BRIEFLY WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS?

>> JIM YOU'RE ASKING THE BEST QUESTIONS TODAY.

THANK YOU.

>> Braude: THANK YOU KINDLY.

YOUR HUSBAND CALLED ME BEFORE AND TOLD ME WHAT TO ASK BUT TELL US.

>> OKAY, SO SONGWRITERS OF NORTH AMERICA WAS CONCEIVED BY, WAS LAUNCHED BY, ME AND MY SONG WRITING PARTNER MICHELLE LEWIS.

SHE AND I HAVE BEEN WRITING IN ANIMATION FOR A LONG TIME.

WE DID ALL THE MUSIC FOR DOG McSTUFFENS, THAT'S OUR FIRST GIG IN THIS AREA AND WE HAVE BEEN WRITING FOR CARTOONS EVER SINCE.

MICHELLE AND I DISCOVERED AS WE WERE HOLED UP IN OUR STUDIO DOING WORK FOR HIRE STUFF THAT WASN'T REALLY ON THE RADIO, WE DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT HAD BEEN GOING ON IN STREAMING.

WE DISCOVERED IN ABOUT 2014, 15 THROUGH A SERIES OF EVENTS, THAT SONGWRITERS WERE GETTING UNIQUE UNIQUELY CAN I SAY THE WORD SCREWED?

>> Braude: SCREWED.

>> THANK YOU.

UNIQUELY SCREWED IN THE MUSIC ECONOMY WHICH IS WHERE THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST STREAMING.

I LOVE STREAMING.

>> Braude: YOU WANT TO GET PAID.

>> I HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO MORE MUSIC IN MY LIFE.

I'VE NEVER DISCOVERED MORE MUSIC IN MY LIFE.

BUT SONGWRITERS ARE NOT GETTING PAID DPAIRL.

THERE ARE A LOT OF -- FAIRLY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT.

AND SONGWRITERS OF NORTH AMERICA IS THE FASTEST GROWING SONGWRITER ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD AND WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THIS -- ON THIS ISSUE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

>> Braude: I LISTEN TO YOU A LOT STLEEMG WEEKEND.

I HOPE YOU MADE MONEY ON IT AND I HOPE DO GREAT AT THE PARADISE AND CAN NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN AND SAY HELLO TO YOUR HUSBAND, BY THE WAY.

>> GREAT TO SEE YOU JIM.

YOU CAN CATCH LETTERS TO CLEO AT BOSTON'S PARADISE ROCK CLUB ON NOVEMBER 19th AND 20th.

MORE INFORMATION AND TICKETS ARE AT letterstocleo.net.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, BUT COME BACK TOMORROW.

KEY WITNESS IN THE TRUMP IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS, VERSION 1, THAT IS, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL MEMBER FIONA HILL JOINS ME ON HER NEW MEMOIR: "THERE IS NOTHING FOR YOU HERE: FINDING OPPORTUNITY IN THE 21st CENTURY."

THAT AND MORE, TOMORROW AT 7:00.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

PLEASE STAY SAFE.

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