ANNOUNCER: What did Walter Diemer invent in 1928 that became the world's biggest selling confection?

And what product are residents of Elk County ordering when they ask for high test?

Let's all find out as we play The Pennsylvania Game.

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Now, let's get the game started.

She's a student of the world, the stupefying host of The Pennsylvania Game, Lynn Cullen.

Thank you.

Are you trying to kill me?

Did somebody call me stupid or was that stupefying?

What was that?

That's dangerous.

That's dangerous.

Loretta Young could do that, but I can't do that high.

Let's meet our panel, get the show going and get that camera off of me.

Thank you.

Welcome.

A familiar face.

I love him.

A Pennsylvania Game veteran, and author, a bon vivant, a good guy, Bernie Asbell.

[applause] And our next panelist is affectionately known as the State College hat lady.

We'll find out why later.

Welcome, Millie Vespa Bubash.

[applause] LYNN CULLEN: Jeff Kauffman is the Jammer, half of Coffee and the Jammer.

Heard morning on WTPA Radio in Harrisburg.

And many in Harrisburg knows that, and knows him, Jeff Kaufman.

[applause] All right.

Let's get the game started.

This first question was actually sent in by three different viewers.

And I can figure out why.

It's a good one.

Let's listen.

ANNOUNCER: On December 26, 1928, Walter Diemer, a young accountant, who knew nothing about chemistry, invented something by trial and error in a tiny makeshift laboratory in Philadelphia.

What did Walter Diemer invent?

Was it A, bubble gum, B, licorice sticks, C, jawbreakers, or D, taffy?

LYNN CULLEN: That's weird.

They say this guy was an accountant.

An accountant is with jawbreakers, licorice sticks, bubble gum, whatever.

He had a sweet tooth, this accountant.

Figure it out, A, B, C, or D?

Take-- these faces.

All right.

Get that look off your face.

You look like you know something.

You just-- maybe if you look like you know something, you will know something.

Would the person who dreams up these questions like to meet me after the show in the alley?

If he was a chemist, the bubble gum seems to want to have a chemist figure it out.

Sure.

Jawbreakers wants a carpenter or plumber, you know.

But bubblegum wants a chemist.

Bubblegum wants a-- I was saying that to a friend just the other-- bubble gum wants a chemist.

A chemist?

I thought he was an accountant.

BERNIE ASBELL: Well, but he-- a chemistry lab.

Whatever.

It's A.

It's A.

That's what Bernie says.

It's A. Millie, Millie, Millie.

I'm going to say A because I've seen a lot of accountants chewing bubble gum while they're deep in thought.

Never seen an accountant chew bubble gum, but what the heck.

I've got to see your accountant.

What do you think, Jeff Kauffman?

I was going to go with bubble gum.

Seemed like the right answer.

But looking at Walter, it looks like he suffering a jawbreaker injury.

So I'd say it was testing his product and lost.

So I'm going to see jawbreaker.

LYNN CULLEN: All right.

I think-- I think you talked me into it.

Let's find out, in fact, if any of these guys know what they're talking about.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, bubble gum.

The day after Christmas in 1928, Walter Diemer made his first batch of bubble gum and colored it pink because that was the only food coloring he had on hand.

150 pieces were sent to a nearby grocery store.

When the children discovered it, the bubble gum was completely sold out in one afternoon.

Today, Diemer's invention is the world's biggest selling confection.

All right.

It was the first successful bubble gum.

There had been bubble gum before in 1906.

Someone put bubble gum on the market.

It was called Blibber-Blubber.

And it didn't go anywhere because it was called Blibber-Blubber.

Yuck.

I mean, who wants to-- yuck.

Does the winner today get 100 pounds of bubble gum?

Absolutely.

If you win, Bernie, I'll personally deliver them.

OK. Give it all to him.

Let's see.

In fact, let's see if you can keep your winning streak going here.

At least you got one.

Let's see if you can get two.

ANNOUNCER: When residents of Elk County ask for high test, what product are they ordering?

Is it a Mobil gasoline, B, maple syrup, C, Straub beer, or D, whole milk?

LYNN CULLEN: Now, Straub beer is mother's milk to some, but is it gasoline, syrup, beer, or milk?

Have you logged your answers in?

Everybody's staring at me.

That's it.

We've done it.

Millie, which button did you put?

Well, Mobil gasoline.

I can't ever think that I've ever drank high test like-- LYNN CULLEN: You never drank gasoline?

You never did.

No, I mean I never drank milk that was-- A.

[laughs] LYNN CULLEN: Thank you, Millie.

Well said.

I know exactly-- I know exactly what you meant too.

I'm sure we all did.

Right.

Jeff Kauffman.

JEFF KAUFFMAN: Well, again, I was going to go with A, and I'll-- I'll probably regret not choosing A again.

But that seemed too obvious.

And among the other three answers, high test couldn't be milk, couldn't be maple syrup.

It's got to be beer.

LYNN CULLEN: It's got to be beer.

JEFF KAUFFMAN: You can't get a kick out of the syrup or the milk.

No.

OK.

So in other words, you said C. JEFF KAUFFMAN: Maybe in Elk County, you can.

LYNN CULLEN: He's starting to back away already.

He said C. It's beer.

What do you think, Bernie?

BERNIE ASBELL: He's absolutely right, except everybody knows that high test maple syrup comes from Vermont and Elk County.

And I voted for-- LYNN CULLEN: Maple syrup.

Sure.

LYNN CULLEN: You might have gotten yourself into a sticky situation there.

Let us find-- [groans] Let's find out.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, Straub beer.

Straub beer is made in Saint Mary's, Pennsylvania.

Established by Peter P. Straub in 1872.

Straub Brewery is one of the country's oldest family-owned breweries.

Because it's still made the old fashioned way without additives or preservatives, Straub beers distribution is limited to Pennsylvania and Northern Ohio.

In the nation's 24 major breweries, Straub ranks 23rd, producing 30,000 barrels of beer each year.

That compares with Anheuser-Busch, whose yearly output is more than 86 million barrels of beer.

Straub Brewery maintains such a community feeling that local residents are known to stop in after a day's work for a couple of free, freshly drawn beers from the so-called eternal tap.

Okie dokie okie doke.

Let me get to know you guys a little bit better.

Bernie Asbell, you're a prolific writer.

You've written tons of books.

I know I've read some of them.

But you're working on something new.

Yeah.

Well, this-- this will be the 14th.

This is a history of the birth control pill, much of which-- the basic chemistry of which was done at Penn State-- by someone from Penn State University.

LYNN CULLEN: This chemist who also did the bubble gum?

BERNIE ASBELL: No, not the same chemist.

The man who figured out how to get steroids out of vegetables and it really changed the-- it changed the medical status of the world.

LYNN CULLEN: We will wait for this book.

I didn't even know there were steroids in vegetables, let alone could get them out of them.

I can't-- it's interesting.

The birth control pill.

Truly a revolutionary product if there ever was one.

Millie, Bubash, the hat lady.

Oh, yes.

LYNN CULLEN: She's going to prove it right.

What Imelda Marcos is to shoes, this woman is to hats.

Never without a hat.

LYNN CULLEN: How many do you have?

Thousands?

About 3,000.

LYNN CULLEN: Sure.

Sure.

Why not?

That's beautiful.

That's beautiful.

You look-- MILLIE VESPA BUBASH: This is a Russian pillbox.

It's a Russian pillbox.

I knew that.

MILLIE VESPA BUBASH: Around the middle of the '60s.

Pretty hat.

Nice, nice, pillbox.

Jackie Kennedy, the pillbox hat, right?

Jeff Kauffman, you're looking at that hat like it's going to bite you.

It reminds me of a Bob Dylan song.

LYNN CULLEN: Yes, right.

Leopard-skin pillbox hat.

Exactly.

LYNN CULLEN: Right.

You're part of what?

The Central Pennsylvania's longest running temporary morning team.

That didn't make any sense.

Well, most contracts run, maybe, year-to-year.

Ours is week-to-week, sometimes, day-to-day.

You never know.

And we're temporary and proud of it.

LYNN CULLEN: Good.

Glad to hear it.

Glad to hear it.

Let's get on to our next question.

It's the funny pages.

ANNOUNCER: The world's Heavyweight Championship boxer, Joe Palooka, was considered the most successful sports comic strip ever done, created in 1930 by Ham Fisher of Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.

He had originally intended to call Joe Palooka something else.

Was it A, Knockout Joe, B, Uppercut Joe, C, Joe Jinx, Or D, Joe the Dumbbell?

LYNN CULLEN: Well, we got a few people looking like dumbbells here, but let's figure it out.

What do you think it was?

Knockout Joe?

They're all going to guess on this one.

You don't know this.

Uppercut Joe, Joe Jinx, or Joe the Dumbbell?

Well, who knows?

Jeff, what do you think?

I'm going with C. Joe Jinx sounds like that era comic name.

LYNN CULLEN: OK. OK. Fair enough.

It sounds like some editor said, no, Joe Jinx will never do.

Why not something like Joe Palooka?

LYNN CULLEN: You like Joe Jinx too.

Yeah.

LYNN CULLEN: OK. We got two for Joe Jinx.

Millie, Millie.

Oh, back then, a lot of people thought that boxer's were kind of dumb.

And sounds kind of like it might have been-- LYNN CULLEN: Joe the Dumbbell.

Yeah.

Joe the Dumbbell.

LYNN CULLEN: Millie's going with Joe the Dumbbell, and maybe she's no dumbbell.

Let's find out.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, Joe the Dumbbell.

Joe Palooka debuted in 1930 in less than two dozen newspapers.

By the late 1930's, it was appearing in several hundred.

Boxing was a popular sport in the 1930's, so it was no wonder that the strip's popularity rose when Joe won the World's Heavyweight Championship in 1931.

The real heavyweight champion at the time incidentally was Max Schmeling.

The strip enjoyed a consistent following through the 1970's and was KO'd in 1984.

OK. Palookaville.

Hi, yeah, people are called Palookas too, I think.

The score by the way looks something like this.

Millie out ahead with two whole points and the gentleman trailing with one apiece.

But a lot can happen between now and then.

Mystery Pennsylvania time.

Here's the first clue.

It is all in the family for this Bucks County couple.

That's it.

That's the clue.

It's all in the family for this Bucks County couple.

If you think who that couple may be, write it down on line one on your little scribbler doodler there.

We'll give you three points at the end of the game if you guess it on this first hint.

It's all in the family for this Bucks County couple.

They don't know.

They don't know.

I can tell.

Let's move on.

We'll get into something very serious here, like nuclear energy.

It's really about a Pennsylvania first.

ANNOUNCER: Two firsts for the nuclear energy industry took place in Pennsylvania.

Pittsburgh became the nation's first city to have atomic electricity.

And Shippingport nuclear power plant, which provided that electricity, became the world's first atomic power plant to provide electricity exclusively for civilian use.

What was the year?

Was it A, 1949, B, 1957, C, 1960, or D, 1971?

LYNN CULLEN: What was that year?

Exclusive use for civilian use of nuclear power in Pennsylvania, 49, 57, 60, 71?

What sounds right?

Take your chances.

You press those keys and here we go.

Bernie, which do?

I said 1957.

1949, I don't believe nuclear was yet used for power.

LYNN CULLEN: 57 sounds about right to you?

That sounds about right to me.

That's a B. Milllie?

MILLIE VESPA BUBASH: C, 1960.

I remember them talking about it earlier, but 60 sounds right to me.

LYNN CULLEN: OK. And Jeff.

JEFF KAUFFMAN: It wasn't-- the Nautilus commission somewhere around 1960.

LYNN CULLEN: You don't ask the questions here.

I ask the question.

JEFF KAUFFMAN: C, 1960.

1960, a C. Wait a minute You sat there, how many years and ask questions from right in this spot.

LYNN CULLEN: That's right.

Now I'm here.

I got all the answers.

I don't-- I ask-- C, 1960.

LYNN CULLEN: What was the year?

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B, 1957.

Although scientists discovered nuclear fission back in 1938, it wasn't until December 18, 1957 that nuclear power was used for civilian use.

It was then that the Shippingport atomic power station provided electricity to Pittsburgh, making it the first city in the world to use electricity generated by nuclear power.

The plant was operated by the Duquesne Light Company and was in service for 28 years, from 1957 to 1985.

Isn't that wonderful?

OK. Let's move on.

Our next question is all wet.

Sometimes I am too, but take a look at this.

ANNOUNCER: Which is the largest made body of water within the borders of Pennsylvania?

Is it A, lake Wallenpaupack, B, Raystown lake, C, Pymatuning Reservoir, or D, Allegheny Reservoir?

LYNN CULLEN: The largest man made body of water in Pennsylvania.

I got to say this.

Lake Wallenpaupack, that's A.

Say that trippingly on the tongue.

What do you think?

bop, bop, bop.

Millie.

B. LYNN CULLEN: That's just because you didn't want to say Wallenpaupack.

No, I didn't want to say that.

And I didn't want to say that other one either.

Piatooey.

LYNN CULLEN: Raystown is really easy.

Right.

OK. We're going with Raystown lake.

And Jeff.

I'm going with B just because it's huge.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, you've been there.

I remember when it was small and they made it huge.

LYNN CULLEN: OK.

So comparatively speaking, it's big.

I went with because I've seen it.

And therefore I believe it.

LYNN CULLEN: People who've seen it say it's big.

Maybe they know something that I don't know.

We got three B's.

The better business bureau, in fact.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B. Raystown lake is located in Huntington County in southwestern Pennsylvania.

It was created in 1974 after a dam was erected near Saxton on the Raystown branch of the Juniata river.

The lake runs 30 miles in length, although the mountain shoreline measures 118 miles long.

The lake and its surrounding area offer year-round recreation opportunities for people of all ages, including an 800-dock Marina, the largest in Pennsylvania.

All righty.

All righty.

All righty.

I'm going to give another clue for the Mystery Pennsylvanian, but first, but first, the score.

Let's see where we stand.

In fact, where we stand is Bernie's out ahead.

Millie's with him, both three points.

And Jeff, you ain't far behind.

You got two.

So anyone can win this game.

The second clue for the mystery Pennsylvanian.

Listen up.

Mama knows best could easily be the subtitle for their nearly 100 books.

It's a few more than yours Bernie.

Mama knows best could easily be the subtitle for their nearly 100 books.

It's all in the family for this Bucks County couple.

Oh the-- LYNN CULLEN: Oh, yeah, the-- oh, I know.

Yeah, what is that?

And I know it.

I know it.

It's on the back.

Oh, it drives you crazy.

Doesn't it drive you crazy?

You know it, but you can't get to it.

OK.

I'm not-- no one's writing anything, so let's move on.

You can still-- you can think any time something occurs to you, feel free to write it down.

Here's an arcane question.

If anybody knows this, I'll really-- I'll be astonished and very impressed.

ANNOUNCER: The state seal is the symbol that has been used since 1907 to authenticate official documents.

It has two faces, the obverse, which is the more familiar face and the reverse, or counter seal.

The obverse of the seal contains a shield with a sailing ship, a plow, and three sheaves of wheat on it.

To the left of the shield is a stock of Indian corn, to the right, an olive branch.

The shield's crest is an eagle.

And the entire design is encircled by the inscription, "Seal of the State of Pennsylvania."

What is the inscription on the reverse side?

Is it A, In God We Trust, B, Both Can't Survive, C, Let US Never Forget, or D, Virtue, Liberty, and Independence.

LYNN CULLEN: That's why I love this game.

Why the heck would anybody know that?

I mean, if you're out there and you know that, as I said, I'm in-- I can tell they don't know it.

They don't have the slightest idea.

In God We Trust, Both Can't Survive, Let Us Never Forget, virtue, liberty, and Independence.

Jeff.

JEFF KAUFFMAN: D, Virtue, Liberty, and Independence.

That just sounds like-- if you're going to make a state seal, that's something that you would write on it.

I agree.

That sounds good.

It sounds good.

Bernie.

I once knew why it was Let Us Never Forget.

LYNN CULLEN: I always thought lettuce-- But I forgot, so I went with the other one, with D. LYNN CULLEN: You said lettuce, and I thought L-E-T-T-U-C-E, lettuce.

What's he talking about lettuce?

What do you think?

C. Because I think there was so much happening that was bad and they finally got good.

So they didn't want to forget the bad.

LYNN CULLEN: I like the way your brain works.

I really do.

I don't understand it, but I-- That's because of my hats.

Yeah, I know, the hats.

Weird.

Let's find out, in fact, if any of you who know anything.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B.

The reverse of the state seal depicts a woman who represents liberty.

Her left hand is holding a wand, topped by a liberty cap, which is a French symbol of liberty.

Her right hand is holding a drawn sword.

And she is trampling upon tyranny as represented by the lion.

The entire design is encircled by the legend, Both Can't Survive.

Meaning that liberty of the colonies and the British rule of tyranny cannot coexist.

Makes sense in a sort of tortured kind of way.

The state's motto, Jeff, is virtue, liberty, and independence.

So you were sort of right, but you were wrong.

Ha, ha, ha.

Let's move on.

This one's about counties and no one's going to know this one either.

I don't think.

ANNOUNCER: Today, there are 67 counties in Pennsylvania.

Which were the state's original three counties?

Were they A, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philadelphia, B, Berks, Lancaster, and Lebanon, C, Lancaster, Philadelphia, and York, or D, Bucks, Chester, and Philadelphia?

LYNN CULLEN: Boy, oh, boy, when I used to be on the panel, a question like that was just absolutely impossible for me.

Do any of you have the slightest idea?

The first three counties in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Have you voted, Bernie?

Yeah.

LYNN CULLEN: OK. What do you think?

I'm taking C. Lancaster was very early in our history.

Yeah, I'm taking C is what I'm doing.

LYNN CULLEN: He's taking C is what he's doing.

Millie.

Yeah.

I'm taking C because Philadelphia was real active at that time.

LYNN CULLEN: OK. She's taking C too.

What about you, Jeff?

You taking C?

This is either where I'm hopelessly lost or I catch up.

But I'm going with D, Bucks, Chester, and Philadelphia.

LYNN CULLEN: Ooh, he's being a loner.

Let's find out, in fact, if this pays off for Jeff Kauffman.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D. English Quakers who arrived with William Penn in 1682 sought a religious and political haven in the State's original three counties-- Philadelphia, Chester, and Bucks.

Lackawanna County in Northeastern Pennsylvania was the last County to be organized in the state.

It was established in 1878.

In 1800-- in 1800, there were 10 counties that were put into the state.

That was the most in any one year.

It's kind of thing you-- you never know to up at a cocktail party.

They have cocktail parties anymore, I don't think so.

Anyway-- hey, here's another one.

It's about water.

It's not about made lakes.

It's about something a little bit smaller and more sort of vertical or something.

I don't know.

It's a creek or is it a creek.

ANNOUNCER: Anglers from across the United States recognize a certain Central Pennsylvania creek as a prime fishing area, especially for those out to catch its famous wild brown trout.

This fishery contains America's first fly fishing-only section.

Which creek is it?

Is it A, Pine Creek, B, Fishing Creek, C, Penns Creek, or D, Spring Creek?

LYNN CULLEN: He said creek, but the fact is everybody really says creeky, even though we know it's creek, isn't that true?

That's right.

LYNN CULLEN: That is true.

Did you vote?

OK. Millie.

MILLIE VESPA BUBASH: Well, I said A because I really didn't know.

I love you.

I love you.

Jeff Kauffman.

I went with C, Penns Creek.

LYNN CULLEN: Because you really didn't know either, right?

No idea.

LYNN CULLEN: And Bernie, because you didn't know, which one did you pick?

I may have the right answer and the wrong reason.

Isn't Spring Creek where-- Spring Creek where Jimmy Carter comes up to fish, I believe.

LYNN CULLEN: Spring Crick or is it Spring Creek?

Right now and right here.

LYNN CULLEN: I don't know.

It might be Jimmy Carter.

Well, what does that have to do with this thing?

Well, it's a great-- it's a great creek.

LYNN CULLEN: It's a great crick or a creek.

Let's find out.

Well, whatever.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, Spring Creek.

On May 18, 1951, authorities counted 1,766 fly fishermen, 218 of whom were women, enjoying the waters of Spring Creek.

Referred to as Fisherman's paradise, it flows through center county, beginning along the base of Tussey mountain, and emptying into Bald Eagle Creek near Milesburg.

Started in 1938, its fly fishing-only section has since been copied by many fisheries throughout the United States.

LYNN CULLEN: Last call, last chance.

Influenced by Dr. Seuss, they incorporated humor in their work and patterned their trademark characters after their own lives.

It's all in the family for this Bucks County couple, mama knows best could easily be the subtitle of their 100 books, influenced by Dr. Seuss.

They incorporated humor in their work and patterned their trademark characters after their own lives.

This is this is where you have to come up with it.

And this is a very tight game, by the way.

Very tight game.

So this could-- Let's go to state tight.

And what is that you have down there?

Well, I'm ashamed that my first answer.

I said Carroll O'Connor.

Millie's got nothing.

And Jeff Kauffman.

MILLIE VESPA BUBASH: Well, el blanko.

Nothing.

In fact-- I'm lost.

--here's who it is.

We'll find out.

They're all lost.

ANNOUNCER: Stan and Jan Berenstain were born in Philadelphia and now live in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

They met in 1941 while attending the Philadelphia College of Art.

The husband and wife team began their long collaboration by drawing cartoons for major magazines.

They are the creators of the popular, It's All in the Family cartoon feature, which was a bimonthly feature of Good Housekeeping magazine for 20 years.

But their best known collaboration is The Berenstain Bears, one of the most popular series of books in children's literature.

Their enduring human-like family of bears includes Papa, whose enthusiasm is exceeded only by his ability to do some terribly dumb things.

Mama, who always seems to know what's best.

And Brother and Sister, who serve as Papa's unofficial rescue squad.

The popular bear family has been featured in nearly 100 books, many of which are now available on video tapes and on numerous television specials Stan and Jan Berenstain, famous Pennsylvanians.

Yeah.

This is one of those cases where a three-year-old would have known that.

And it stumped you guys.

By the way, Bernie Asbell wins this game with four correct answers.

Millie and Jeff right behind him at three.

It was a great game.

You guys were great players.

you knew a lot.

Do I get one of Millie's hats?

You not only get one of Millie's hats, you get a Penn pack.

This is a box full of made in Pennsylvania products.

And it's just for you because we love you.

We love all of you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, audience.

Thank you most of all.

I hope you join us again next week when we'll play The Pennsylvania Game.

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