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A hate crime investigation into the murder of a 6-year-old boy. And Chicago City Council members on a controversial resolution.
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Oct. 16, 2023 - Full Show
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A hate crime investigation into the murder of a 6-year-old boy. And Chicago City Council members on a controversial resolution.
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I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THOUSANDS GATHER FOR THE FUNERAL OF A 6 YEAR-OLD BOY AS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAUNCHES HATE CRIME INVESTIGATION INTO HIS DEATH.
>> SO MY HEART IS HEAVY FAMILY GRIEVES WITH YOU ALL.
>> CHICAGO, ALL THE PEOPLE ON A CONTROVERSIAL RESOLUTION.
THE ONGOING MIGRANT CRISIS AND A BUDGET SHORTFALL.
>> BUT THAT'S CHEATING ON 2020 ELECTION.
>> AND 1, ONE WITH FOX NEWS HOST BRET BAIER ON PREPARING FOR TOUGH INTERVIEWS.
HIS NEW BOOK, I'M GEORGE WASHINGTON AND MORE.
AND NOW SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE INVESTIGATING THIS WEEKEND'S FATAL STABBING OF A 6 YEAR-OLD MUSLIM BOY FROM PLAINFIELD AS A HATE CRIME.
AUTHORITIES SAY 6 YEAR-OLD WHAT?
ALL FINE.
YOU ME DIED AFTER HIS FAMILY'S LANDLORD.
71 YEAR-OLD JOSEF ZOO BUT ALLEGEDLY STABBED HIM WITH A MILITARY-GRADE KNIFE.
26 TIMES.
THOUSANDS GATHERED TODAY FOR THE BOY'S FUNERAL.
ATTACK REPORTEDLY CAME AFTER ZUMA HAD ALLEGEDLY LISTEN TO CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO AND HAD A REACTION TO THE CONFLICT BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS.
THESE 32 YEAR-OLD MOTHER HOT ON CHEYENNE IS HOSPITALIZED IN SERIOUS CONDITION, BUT EXPECTED TO SURVIVE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND ISSUED A STATEMENT TODAY SAYING HE WAS HEARTBROKEN BY THE KILLING, ADDING THE INCIDENT, QUOTE, CANNOT HELP BUT FURTHER RAISE THE FEARS OF MUSLIM ARAB AND PALESTINIAN COMMUNITIES IN OUR COUNTRY WITH REGARD TO HATE, FUELED VIOLENCE.
HE ALSO SAYS THE DEPARTMENT WILL USE EVERY LEGAL AUTHORITY TO BRING JUSTICE TO THOSE WHO PERPETRATE THESE ILLEGAL ACTS OF HATE.
MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON ANNOUNCES A DELEGATION TO VISIT THE SOUTHERN BORDER, BUT IT WON'T INCLUDE HIM.
THE DELEGATION WILL SET OUT TUESDAY FOR EL PASO, SAN ANTONIO.
MCALLEN AND BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, WHERE MIGRANTS ARE LEAVING VIA BUS OR TRAIN TO COME HERE.
DELEGATION WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE DEPUTY MAYOR OF IMMIGRANT MIGRANT AND REFUGEE RIGHTS AS WELL AS A COLLECTION OF FAITH AND PHILANTHROPIC LEADERS.
MEANWHILE, MAYOR JOHNSON WANTS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S RECYCLING.
SO WE ANNOUNCED TODAY THE FIRST EVER CITYWIDE COMPOSTING PROGRAM CHICAGOANS CAN BRING THEIR FOOD WASTE TO ONE 15 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY TO DISPOSE OF IT IN A GREEN BIN RATHER THAN TOSSING IT IN THE TRASH LEFTOVER FRUIT, VEGETABLES, MEAT, FISH, BONES, DAIRY H L'S TEA LEAVES COFFEE GROUNDS BREAD AND GRAINS.
ALL BE EXCEPTED.
BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE CONTAINERS OR PIZZA BOXES.
THIS NEW PROGRAM AIMS TO CHIP AWAY AT THE CITY'S VERY LOW 9% RATE OF RECYCLING.
MORE BAD NEWS FOR LONG SUFFERING BEARS FANS FRESH OFF THEIR DISAPPOINTING LOSS TO THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS.
THE BEARS TODAY REVEAL QUARTERBACK JUSTIN FIELDS HAS A DISLOCATED RIGHT THUMB AND IS DOUBTFUL TO PLAY IN THE NEXT GAME AGAINST THE LAS VEGAS RAIDERS FIELDS INJURED THE THUMB ON THIS PLAY IN THE 3RD QUARTER.
ALTHOUGH IMMEDIATE X-RAYS INDICATED DID NOT GET A FRACTURE ON THAT THOUGHT.
AND UP NEXT, ONE ON ONE WITH FOX NEWS HOST BRET BAIER.
THAT'S RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN BY ALEXANDRA AND JOHN NICHOLS.
THE GYM AND K MAYBE FAMILY.
THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.
AND THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.
>> IF YOU THINK THE COUNTRY IS POLITICALLY DIVIDED NOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK 17 87 MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE COLLECTION OF LOOSELY CONNECTED STATES AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER AND A GROUP OF FIGHTERS THAT AGAINST ALL ODDS FOUND COMMON GROUND LED BY GEORGE WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON IS THE SUBJECT OF THE NEW BOOK TO RESCUE THE CONSTITUTION.
GEORGE WASHINGTON, AND THE FRAGILE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT.
IT'S THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF PRESIDENTIAL BOOKS WRITTEN BY THE CHIEF POLITICAL ANCHOR AT FOX NEWS.
BRET, THERE.
SOME WHO COVERS THE MAJOR ISSUES AND CHALLENGES THAT THE NATION'S DEMOCRACY FACES TODAY, WE SPOKE WITH BEAR AROUND HIS APPEARANCE AT THE CHICAGO HUMANITIES FESTIVAL.
THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND WE BEGIN THAT CONVERSATION WITH A CLIP FROM BEARS LATEST INTERVIEW WITH FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CONDUCTED BACK IN JUNE.
>> YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE STUFF BALLOTS.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THE 51 INTELLIGENCE AGENT RECOUNTS IN ALL THE SWING STATES.
THERE WAS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MONEY TRYING TO GET A RECOUNT.
REAL RING CAMERAS, NOT NUMBERS WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION.
THAT WAS NOT A SENSE OF THAT.
THERE WERE LAWSUITS MORE THAN 50 OF THEM BY YOUR LAWYERS.
SOME IN FRONT OF >> JUDGES THAT YOU POINT TO LOOK AT WISCONSIN CAME UP WITH WISCONSIN IS PRACTICALLY ADMITTED IT WAS RIGGED.
>> AND BRET BAIER JOINS US NOW.
THANKS SO SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US CHICAGO TONIGHT.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE BOOK, I JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD GIVE OUR VIEWERS A GLIMPSE INTO HOW YOU APPROACH INTERVIEW WITH SOMEONE LIKE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING IT'S A CHALLENGE.
IT'S SOMETIMES A, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, ESPECIALLY IS A TOUGH PERSON TO TO INTERVIEW.
KIND OF LIKE NAILING JELLO TO THE WALL, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S ABOUT RESEARCH HAVE A GREAT STAFF WE LOOK INTO HOW HE'S INTO THINGS BEFORE HOUSE TALKED ABOUT THINGS BEFORE THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I ASSUME IN THE DEPOSITION YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO IN THE NEXT SET OF QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I LET OUT LAYOUT TO THE PRESIDENT'S FORMER PRESIDENTS CREDIT.
HE DID THE INTERVIEW ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS >> AND, KNOW, WE HAD THAT BACK AND FORTH AND EVENTUALLY LED TO ME JUST FLAT OUT SAYING YOU DID NOT WIN.
>> THE 2020 ELECTION, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AND LIKE I SAID TO HIS CREDIT, HE TOOK THE QUESTION AND DID THE INTERVIEW AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN SOME POLITICIANS WHO DECIDE THAT.
WELL, AND I WOULD SAY TO YOUR CREDIT, YOU VERY METICULOUSLY AND DISPASSIONATELY FACT, CHECK HIM OR FOLLOW UP IN THE MOMENT.
AND WE KNOW IN JOURNALISM TODAY.
>> SOME ANCHORS OR WANT TO PUT THEIR OWN AGENDA INTO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO THAT'S TO YOUR CREDIT.
OF COURSE, YOU ALSO CO-MODERATE THE FIRST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY DEBATE TO SO MANY CANDIDATES ON THAT STAGE.
I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MODERATING LOTS OF CANDIDATES IN THE MAYORAL DEBATE, BUT SEEMS LIKE THE ATTENTION SEEKING IS AMPLIFIED TO A NEW LEVEL AND AN EVENT LIKE TELL OUR VIEWERS HOW YOU APPROACH ISSUE IS.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE HERDING CATS.
A IT IS EASY TO >> DEAL WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE ON STAGE.
IT'S ALL MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE VIN TIME IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, FAIR QUESTIONING TO EVERYBODY.
SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE AN EQUAL SHOT BUT WITH THAT MANY CANDIDATES ON THE STAGE, IT'S REALLY ABOUT TIME MANAGEMENT.
AND AGAIN, WE TRY TO LAY OUT AND THE CHANGES.
IT'S IT'S KIND OF A REAL-TIME THING.
PRODUCERS IN OUR YEARS SAYING WE NEED TO GIVE MORE TIME TO THIS CANDIDATE TIME THAT THIS CANDIDATE.
SO IT'S A JUGGLING MATCH.
AND THEN THAT PARTICULAR DEBATE, THE FIRST DEBATE.
IT ALSO DEALT WITH THE CROWD THAT WAS VERY RAMBUNCTIOUS IN MILWAUKEE.
ESSENTIALLY WAS ABOUT 6,000 STRONG.
AND WE MENTIONED THAT IF WE THINK THAT TODAY'S POLITICAL DIVISIONS ARE STARK, WHAT ABOUT THE SETTING OF YOUR THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?
17 87 AGRARIAN STORIES, HOW DID THIS SINGULAR AS YOU POSE IN THE TITLE, RESCUE THE CONSTITUTION?
IT DIDN'T MULTIPLE TIMES ACTUALLY.
AND HE WAS THE THING ABOUT WASHINGTON AND YOU LOOK AT HIS LIFE, IT'S ALWAYS LIFTED AND ALMOST GOD-LIKE.
HE WAS A NORMAL GUY.
HE REALLY JUST WANTED TO GET HOME TO MOUNT VERNON AND BE WITH HIS WIFE.
BUT HE WAS CALLED TO SERVE AND HE WAS CALLED TO SERVE MANY TIMES AND ANSWERED THAT CALL EACH TIME IN THE ARMY AND THE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY AS A COMMANDER WINNING AGAINST THE BRITISH.
BUT THEN THAT TIME FROM THE END OF THAT VICTORY TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION IS REALLY CHAOTIC.
AND I DON'T THINK WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.
THE COUNTRY ALMOST NEVER CAME TO BE THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION WERE VOTED ON AND LOOSELY HELD THE COLONIES TOGETHER.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF DOUBT AND IT WAS STARTED TO BE FRACTURED.
A LOT OF FIGHTS ACTUALLY, IN FACT, THERE WAS A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DURING THAT TIME THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT MIGHT BE EASIER JUST TO GO BACK UNDER BRITISH RULE.
THAT'S THE SODA STRONG.
LOOK AT THAT MOMENT WHEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION COMES AND GEORGE WASHINGTON IS RECRUITED AGAIN.
HE ANSWERS THE CALL AND IS THE HEAD OF THIS CONVENTION WITH DISSENTING VOICES ON EVERY THING THAT YOU THINK ABOUT STARTING A COUNTRY AND MANAGES THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS TO COME UP WITH THIS LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT THAT HE REALLY EMBODIES THE U.S. CONSTITUTION THAT HE HAS TO GET IT RATIFIED.
THEY HAVE TO GET IT RATIFIED.
HE CALLS IT A MIRACLE AND THEN HE BECOMES THE FIRST AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
SO WITHOUT WASHINGTON, THE NARRATIVE HERE AND YOU GET TO SEE THESE CHARACTERS REALLY YOU KNOW, REAL NARRATIVE WAY.
WITHOUT WASHINGTON.
WE WE WOULDN'T HAVE A CONVINCED AS YOU MENTION IN THE BOOK AND HAS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES ABOUT HIM, HE WARNED ABOUT A POLITICAL PARTIES AND PARTISANSHIP.
ONE OF THE LESSONS SAID THAT YOU DISCOVERED RESEARCHING THIS BOOK THAT.
PERHAPS SHAPES.
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW.
>> WELL, NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE OFTEN THINK ABOUT THIS TIME THAT ABOUT THIS TIME THAT IT IS.
SO PARTISAN AND IT IS AND WE'RE DIVIDED AS A COUNTRY, BUT THAT IT'S SO BAD THAT IT'S FALLING APART.
BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT OUR HISTORY AND THIS TIME IN PARTICULAR WE WERE FALLING APART.
BACK THEM.
WE WERE FALLING APART ULYSSES S GRANT RESIDENCY AT THE END OF THAT ONE.
ELECTION THERE IN 18, 76 ALMOST GOES BACK INTO A SECOND CIVIL WAR.
WE'VE HAD MOMENTS IN OUR HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY DARK AND IT GIVES US PERSPECTIVE MAYBE IS NOT AS BAD AS WE THINK IT IT.
THE OTHER THING TO LEARN IS THAT HE WAS ALWAYS STRIVING FOR COMMON GROUND BETWEEN PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE DISSENT.
DISSENT IS BAKED INTO THE CAKE AND OUR DEMOCRACY ARE REPRESENTATIVE FOR PUBLIC.
LET IT HAPPEN.
DON'T FEAR IT.
BUT THEN EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE MANY THINGS YOU ADDRESS ABOUT HIS LIFE AND THE BOOK.
I WANT BRING IT BACK TO CURRENT DAY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS.
>> I KNOW YOU'RE BOUND BY CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT.
YOU CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE 787 MILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT WITH A DOMINION, THE VOTING COMPANY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, THE AND PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT TOP FOX NEWS OFFICIALS AND PERSONALITIES DID NOT BELIEVE THE CLAIMS OF ELECTION FRAUD ARE STILL AN ELECTION, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALLOW THOSE CLAIMS SOMETIMES TO GO UNCHECKED ON THE AIR.
EVEN THAT CEO RUPERT MURDOCH TESTIFIED UNDER OATH THAT JOE BIDEN HAD WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE.
SO AGAIN, CONFIDENTIALITY RULES YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS.
BUT OVERALL, YOU'RE KNOWN AS A SCRUPULOUS AND FAIR-MINDED AND TOUGH OBJECTIVE REPORTER.
HOW DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, MANY ELEMENTS OF YOUR COMPANY FALL SHORT OF THOSE STANDARDS.
>> DALLAS, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT THE DOMINION CASE.
IT'S KIND OF BEHIND I ALWAYS LOOK THROUGH MY HORSE BLINDERS ABOUT WHAT I WAS PUTTING ON THE AIR AND WHAT I WAS DOING.
WE'RE ALWAYS DO IN FACT CHECKS ABOUT THE ELECTION.
WE'RE ALWAYS DOING STORIES ABOUT HOW THESE THESE THINGS THAT WERE POPPING UP, WE WOULD FACT CHECK AND FIND OUT WHAT THE TRUTH WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I RECITING THE FORMER PRESIDENT THERE.
BUT THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT WE DID ON THE AIR ON MY SHOW AND OTHERS.
SO WHAT I CAN TALK ABOUT IS MY SHOW.
YOU KNOW, THAT IS BEHIND US.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE OR NOT MADE ALL I KNOW IS THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE NEWS HERE AT FOX WERE TRYING TO DIG UP STORIES RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF A CRISIS AND THE MIDDLE EAST NOT GOT REPORTERS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND RISKING THEIR LIVES TO GIVE THE STORY TO AMERICA.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I HAVE A REPORTER IN UKRAINE.
A STATE DEPARTMENT CORRESPONDENT BENJAMIN HALL WHO LOST A LEG AND A FOOT.
AND THEN I I'M REPORTING TRYING TO GET THE STORY.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS WITH FOX AND FOX IS THE FOCUS OF A LOT OF MEDIA WHO COVER MEDIA.
BUT I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MY VANTAGE POINT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DIG ON THE NEW SITE EVERY DAY PROVIDE THE AFFAIR SO YOU'RE IN CHICAGO FOR THE HUMANITIES AT FESTIVAL ON ANOTHER TOPIC THAT CAN GET COVERED A LOT ON ON FOX NEWS GIVEN THE HIGH MURDERS, ALTHOUGH WE SHOULD QUALIFY THAT.
>> PER CAPITA CHICAGO'S NOT ONE OF THE HIGHER CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO HOMICIDES.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF OF THE WAY CHICAGO IS PORTRAYED ON FOX NEWS FROM TIME TO TIME.
>> YEAH, I LISTEN.
I THINK IT'S CLEAR THERE'S A CRIME PROBLEM THERE AND THERE'S A CRIME PROBLEM IN A LOT OF BIG CITIES AND IT IS NOT A FOX NEWS PHENOMENON.
YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN RESIDENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND AND THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE.
AND I THINK WE DEAL WITH REALITY.
IT'S NOT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
IT'S NOT REPUBLICAN CITY OR DEMOCRATIC YEARS HAPPENS TO BE DEMOCRATIC CITY RUN.
BUT IT IS A PROBLEM THAT WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WE AS A COUNTRY SHOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DEAL WITH IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BIG ISSUES, ECONOMY.
EVERYBODY FEELS IT.
HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT YOU KNOW, HOW THE MONEY IS AT HOME THE KITCHEN TABLE.
THIS CONCERN ABOUT OUR SECURITY AND THE SOUTHERN BORDER.
THAT'S REAL.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAID THAT THAT WAS A FOX NEWS STORY.
GUESS WHAT?
IT'S IT'S STORY THAT'S AFFECTING OUR NATION AND ITS I THINK THAT THESE ARE ALL THINGS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE AS A NETWORK COVER BEFORE OTHER PEOPLE DO THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT OF A STORY.
>> AND AGAIN, THAT WAS OUR CONVERSATION WITH FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANCHOR BRET THERE.
UP NEXT, CHECKING IN WITH SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOLLOWING HEATED MEETINGS INSIDE CITY HALL.
STAY WITH US.
THEY JUST GOT HERE FRESH OUT OF CITY TRAFFIC FROM CITY COUNCIL.
THINGS GOT SO HEATED CITY COUNCIL LAST FRIDAY.
THE MAYOR HAD TO CLEAR OUT THE CHAMBERS FOR A RESET.
PUBLIC PROTESTS OVER A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING ISRAEL.
GROWING FRUSTRATION OVER THE MIGRANT CRISIS AND CRITICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAYOR.
16.6 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET PROPOSAL ARE ALL THE TOPS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS MINES.
AND JOINING US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND MORE ARE ALDERMAN RAY LOPEZ WHO REPRESENTS THE SOUTHWEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE 15 FORD FROM 28TH WARD ALDERMAN JASON ERVIN, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET COMMITTEE AND BLACK CAUCUS AND ALDERMAN ANTHONY BEALE OF THE 9TH WARD ON THE FAR SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY.
WELCOME ALL OF YOU AGAIN.
THANKS FOR GETTING HERE IN THE HEIGHT RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC.
SO WANT TO GET TO THIS A RESOLUTION ABOUT ISRAEL.
THE LANGUAGE WAS TWEAKED HERE TO INCLUDE STATEMENTS THAT ARE SYMPATHETIC TO PALESTINIANS IN GAZA WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN THIS WAY.
THIS BECOME SUCH A FLASHPOINT, DO YOU THINK?
YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE GOT THAT A RESOLUTION PASSED WEDNESDAY, BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT UNTIL FRIDAY.
>> AND HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR JUST WE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WEDNESDAY, HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DEBATE AND BEEN DONE WITH IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY AGREED THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CONDEMN HAMAS AND WHAT THEY WHAT THEY DID.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT ISRAEL AND AS WELL AND SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISENFRANCHISED ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND SO HAMAS IS THE REAL PROBLEM.
AND THE RESOLUTION WAS TWEAKED TO BASICALLY GO AFTER HAMAS.
AND THIS IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE FOR SO MANY IN LOPEZ.
YOU'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT FEEL LIKE THE PLIGHT OF PALESTINIANS IS BEING IGNORED HERE.
OTHER FOLKS SAYING THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THE BARBARISM PERPETRATED AGAINST ISRAELIS.
SO THIS RESOLUTION BRING ALL THAT TOGETHER.
I THINK THE POINT OF THE RESOLUTION WAS TO FOCUS ON WHAT WAS BEFORE THE WORLD FROM LAST WEEKEND, WHICH WAS THAT?
>> A TERRORIST GROUP INVADED ISRAEL AND KILLED 1400 PEOPLE AND BUTCHERED MORANT WOUNDED 10'S ALMOST 8,000 PEOPLE KIDNAPPING 150 BACK INTO THE GAZA.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORLD KNEW THAT LIKE SO MANY GOVERNMENTS AND PEOPLE THAT WE CHICAGO, THE CITY COUNCIL BEHIND THE VICTIMS, THE FAMILIES AND THOSE TRYING TO BRING JUSTICE FOR HAMAS.
DID.
BUT WHAT HAS MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE SAW WAS THAT THERE ARE MANY INDIVIDUALS WANT TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT MILLENNIA OLD.
IT FEUD IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WHICH IS NOT THE TIME OR THE PLACE FOR THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE A 9.11, WIN GOVERNMENTS AND AROUND THE WORLD CAME TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE A PART OF.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE NOT GET LOST INTO THE PARTICULARS OF OTHER ISSUES.
GOT SO HEATED ALDERMAN IRVIN THAT THE GROUPS FOR THEIR PROTESTING IN THE MAYOR TOOK THE UNPRECEDENTED STEP OF JUST BASICALLY CLEARING OUT.
>> THE WHOLE YOU THINK THE MAYOR DID THE RIGHT THING?
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SHUTTING EVERYTHING DOWN.
YOU KNOW, EMOTIONS WERE VERY HIGH DO IN A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME DURING A MEETING.
AND I DO BELIEVE YOU MADE THE RIGHT DECISION CLEAR TO CHINA BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GOING TO GO OFF THE RAILS FURTHER.
>> HAD WE NOT TAKEN THE STEPS TO HAVE SOME DECORUM PUT INTO THE CHAMBER.
BUT I DEFINITELY GREW BOTH.
MY COLLEAGUES HERE RELEASED 2 OF THE NEED TO CONDEMN HAMAS AND AS WELL AS TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS IN ISRAEL.
ALL RIGHT.
SO RESOLUTION, AGAIN TWEAKED AND NOW PAST.
LET'S PIVOT TO THE MIGRANT SITUATION.
ALDERMAN DEAL.
>> YOU'RE PROPOSING TO LET VOTERS DECIDE ON THAT CHICAGO CONTINUES ON AS A SANCTUARY CITY.
SO YOU TRY TO GET A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT.
WHAT BELIEVE THE CITY MAY IT SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT STATUS ANYMORE.
WELL, IN THE ORDINANCE SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A STATUS, BASICALLY SAYS THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION, SHOULD WE OR DO WE WANT TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY UNDER THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN NOW TIME IT HAS THE CLIMATE HAS CHANGED FROM WHEN HERE.
WASHINGTON FIRST MAKE THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER IN PLACE.
MORE PEOPLE COMING TO CHICAGO AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE THING TO ORDINANCE OR ORDINANCE ITSELF TO SAYS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND GOODS TO PEOPLE WERE COMING HERE.
ALL IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH ICE AND ANY OTHER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE PORTION OR DETAIN.
IF NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HUNDREDS 100'S OF MILLIONS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT SAME TIME.
THEY'RE HERE.
WHAT OTHER OPTION IS THERE?
WELL, THAT THEY GET THE HERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT HIM IF THEY KNEW WE WERE GOING TO THEY WOULD BE COMING HERE.
AND SO IF SOMEBODY TOLD YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU HOUSING HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, COLD, A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD 3 MEALS A DAY WHO WOULDN'T COME TO THE UNITED STATES?
RAY LOPEZ IS THERE.
26 VOTES FOR A RESOLUTION LIKE THAT?
IT SEEMS LIKE GIVEN THE TENOR OF CITY COUNCIL THERE WOULDN'T BE?
WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY INTERESTING SITUATION BREWING IN CITY COUNCIL WHERE THE MAYOR AND HIS PROGRESSIVE ALLIES WANT TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON RAISING PROPERTY TAXES IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.
SO WHY CAN'T YOU WHEN YOU HAVING A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO RAISE TAXES, HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO REMAIN A WELCOMING CITY.
I THINK THOSE ARE 2 VALID QUESTIONS AND BOTH ARE WORTHY OF THE VOTERS.
DECISION AT THE BALLOT BOX.
AND WHAT WE SEE NOW, AS MY SAID IS THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SEEING NEARLY 250 MILLION DOLLARS SPENT AND PEOPLE NOT NATIVE TO THE CITY WHO HAVE BEEN SHIPPED HERE BECAUSE OF THE POLITICS OF THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
THE FAILURE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST IN A MEETING IN THE WEST SIDE WHERE THEY SAY IT'S GREAT THAT WE WANT TO HELP THEM.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HELP THAT TO THE COMMUNITIES ON THE SOUTH AND THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE WERE UNABLE TO HELP WITH COMMUNITIES SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WESTSIDE IMPACTED BY THE FLOODING BECAUSE OF THE FEMA AND ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT STAND IN OUR WAY.
BUT WE FUND MONEY TO HELP IN THE SITUATION ON THE WHAT DO YOU THINK AS CHAIR CHAIR OF THE BLACK CAUCUS FOR A LONG TIME WHEN YOU THINK YOUR CAUCUS WOULD FALL ON A ON A RESOLUTION LIKE THAT, I THINK THERE'S SOME MEMBERS DO KEEPING A SANCTUARY CITY AND ON DO NOT SUPPORT KEEPING THE SANCTUARY CITY.
>> HOWEVER, I THINK THE ISSUE OF SANCTUARY IN COMPLACENT WITH THEM ARGUMENTS.
I TO SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT ISSUES OF THE CITY ITSELF ASKED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TO PUT APPROPRIATIONS TOWARD THAT SUPPORT.
AND AGAIN, THE MAJORITY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT ON 2 OCCASIONS.
SO I THINK PUTTING THOSE 2 ISSUES TO GO, I THINK MAYBE GIVING PEOPLE FALSE CHOICES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT THEY ARE ALSO REPORTED TO BE.
ALRIGHT, ALDERMAN DEAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH RESISTANCE AND EVERY COMMUNITY HERE WHERE THERE'S PROPOSALS FOR TEMPORARY SHELTER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER IDEAS YOU HAVE FOR FOR TEMPORARY SHELTERS ARE OR WHERE PLACE THAT MIGHT NOT MEET RESISTANCE?
WELL, WHAT WE HAVE SO MANY EMPTY SCHOOLS WE HAVE COME TO CHURCH IS WE HAVE COMMUNITY BUILDING COMMUNITIES AND THE AROUND THOSE AREAS AND COME OUT AND SAY, BUT STILL, WE DON'T WANT BECAUSE THE I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU'RE SEEING RESISTANCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING >> I CAN'T GET A NEW ROOF.
I CAN'T GET A FAR AS I CAN GET A HOT WATER HEATER NOT BEEN PAYING TAX MY ENTIRE LIFE.
>> I'M BEHIND ON MY RENT.
I'M BEHIND ON MY BILLS.
BUT YET WITH 31 MILLION UP ON OR MIGRANTS THAT HAVE NEVER PAID OUT THE TAXES AND THE PEOPLE HAVE ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES THEIR ENTIRE LIFE AND NOW THEY NEED TO HELP A LEG UP AND THEY CAN'T GET IT.
SO PEOPLE ARE FED UP FRUSTRATED THAT WE'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY ON PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SOCIETY.
AND I THINK TO PARIS, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING AS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT WE'RE CREATING SO SHELTER SPACES THAT CAN BE PUT IN COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU HAVE.
WHEN YOU HAVE.
>> MIGRANT SHELTERS CURRENTLY WHERE YOU SEE THE DRUG WE SEE THE PROSTITUTION, WE SEE ALL THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF OUR SOCIETY.
THERE IS, WELL, IT'S HARD TO GET.
PEOPLE WANT TO OPEN THEIR DOORS AND GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT NOTE THAT THERE'S REPORTS NOW THAT A BIG, EMPTY LOT IN BRIGHTON PARTNERS NOT FAR FROM YOUR WORK.
THAT'S WHERE THE 10 CITIES ARE GOING TO GO.
DO WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE.
WE KNOW THAT THE CITY OF CHICAGO PUT OUT AN RFP TO THE PUBLIC WHERE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE ON OCTOBER 6 ASKING PRIVATE LANDOWNERS TO APPLY SO THAT THEIR PROPERTIES CAN BE USED.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE 38TH IN CALIFORNIA LOCATION HAS BEEN SELECTED.
CITY CREWS HAVE BEEN ON SITE CLEARING UP THE PLACE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CAN COME THERE AND WE'RE HEARING REPORTS OF ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1400 TO 3500 MIGRANTS MAY BE AT THAT LOCATION.
THAT LOCATION IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A KNOWN GANG HOTSPOT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BRYANT PARK COMMUNITY IS WELL AWARE OF THAT ALL BEEN TRYING TO MITIGATE DOWNWARD.
BUT IF YOU ARE NOT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN.
YOU DROP 1500 PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM BAD TO WORSE IN THE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN THERE.
THAT INDEED DOES GO FORWARD.
ALDERMAN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO THE BUDGET.
AND SPEAKING MIGRANTS ABOUT 150 MILLION DOLLARS PROPOSED BY THE TO DEAL WITH THIS.
EVEN THOUGH ITS COST ABOUT DOUBLE THAT SO FAR THIS YEAR.
IS THE CITY GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY TO?
>> TO PAY FOR THIS?
>> WELL, I THINK THE POSITION IS AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEED TO STEP UP AND HELP THE CITY OF CHICAGO IN PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR.
THIS IS NOT A CHICAGO PROBLEM.
THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE.
IT'S FEDERAL POLICY IS DRIVEN US TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT.
WELL, WE TO HELP HELPING OUR FELLOW INDIVIDUALS.
THIS IS SOLELY A CHICAGO PROBLEM.
SO I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MAYOR'S MARKER.
WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO, WHAT WE DO NEED SUPPORT FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR THE MORE I THINK THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE POINTS THE BILL RAISED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TOO.
I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT BALANCE.
AND AGAIN, A LOOK AT PUSH FOR MORE RESOURCES FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AS WELL PARTICULAR BUDGET.
AND AGAIN, WITH A STARTING POINT, NOT AS DO BELIEVE THIS IS NOT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATIONS HERE AND OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS HIS BUDGET HEARINGS THAT TAKE PLACE.
I SAW YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD HERE ABOUT THE COST.
>> FOR MIGRANTS THAT'S IN THIS.
BUT I DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
THIS IS OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE THANKS WHERE CITY.
>> AND BY AS MANY THANKS FOR CITY, WERE CREATED THIS PROBLEM WHERE THEY'RE SENDING THE MIGRANTS TO CHICAGO BECAUSE OF WE HAVE THAT STATUS.
THEY'RE NOT TO REST OF THE STATE.
THEY'RE NOT SENDING THEM OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO.
THEY'RE NOT SEND HIM TO THE REST OF COOK COUNTY ORDER REST OF THE STATE.
SO THEY SENT HIM TO CHICAGO.
AND SO THAT'S A 150 MILLION IS NOT EVEN HALF OF WHAT IS BEING PROJECTED ARE BEEN TODAY.
AND SO WE'RE ONLY PASSED A STOP GAP BUDGET BY PUTTING 150 MILLION UP KNOWING IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE.
THE STATE HAS ALREADY WHEN I GO INTO GIVING HIM ANY MORE MONEY, DON'T COME DOWN HERE, KNOCKING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN AN ELECTION YEAR.
SO IT'S UNREALISTIC TO THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN BIDEN IS FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BEING DISHONEST AND DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE BY NOT TELLING THEM THE TRUTH.
WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH OUT OF THE NUMBERS TODAY.
A BUDGET HEARING ABOUT HOW MUCH IS GOING TO WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW MANY POLICE VACANCIES WE WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH.
AND SO I THINK WE'VE DISHONEST DOING A DISSERVICE TO IS NOT BELIEVE.
WE'RE JUST MAKING THE MARKERS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN TOWARDS PARTICULAR EFFORT.
>> AND THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP UP.
THE STATE SAID NO SAYS SAID NO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE GOING INTO THE 2025 LIKE WHAT WE'LL SEE IF MAYBE THE STEPS UP THE PRESSURE ON THE STATE TO GET SOME RESOURCES ARE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO WITH QUESTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO DEBATE ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.
SO WE HOPE >> TALK TO ABOUT THIS AGAIN.
WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
ALDERMAN JASON ERVIN, RAY LOPEZ AND ANTHONY BEALE.
THANKS SO MUCH THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT.
JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT AT 5, 30 10.
>> MIGRANTS CITY COUNCIL MUCH MORE WITH OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICS TEAM AND LOOKING AT THE CURRENT STATE OF HOMELESSNESS IN CHICAGO AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS IT.
AND NOW FOR ALL OF US HERE IN CHICAGO TONIGHT, I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
>> THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
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