>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO AMANPOUR & CO. >>> AS HAMAS LAUNCHES MORE ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL AND ISRAEL POUNDS GAZA WITH AIRSTRIKES, I HAVE THE LATEST MANEUVERS FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY SPOKESPERSON, JOHN KIRBY.

>> THEN I SPEAK TO AN AMERICAN WHO SAYS FIVE MEMBERS OF HER FAMILY HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS, MOST OF THEM CHILDREN OR ELDERLY.

>> ALSO HAD, THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER ON WHAT A WAR WITH LOOK LIKE.

>> LATER IN THE PROGRAM, THE LATEST FROM INSIDE GAZA WITH A DOCTOR WORKING IN THE CITY.

>> PLUS, SOCIAL MEDIA IS LETTING THE WORLD SEE THESE ATROCITIES IN REAL TIME .

WE DISCUSSED THE IMPACT WITH THE CEO OF THE CENTER FOR COUNSELING >> AMANPOUR & CO. IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CANDACE AND KIM WE ARE.

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THANK YOU.

>>> WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.

SHOCK, TRAUMA AND THE AGONY OF UNCERTAINTY AS ISRAEL ALISHA'S REVENGE ON HAMAS AND TAKEN MORE THAN 100 HOSTAGES SNATCHED ON SATURDAY AND IT IS UNCLEAR AS EVER .

IN TEL AVIV AMERICAN FAMILIES AND MISSING LOVED ONES SPOKE TO REPORTERS ABOUT THEIR LIVING NIGHTMARE.

>> THERE WERE TWO TEXT IN A ROW FROM HER AT 8:11.

THE FIRST WAS THAT I LOVE YOU AND IMMEDIATELY AT 8:11 IT ALSO SAID I'M SORRY.

I KNEW , IMMEDIATELY , WHEREVER HE WAS , IT WAS A TERRIBLE SITUATION .

I TOOK IT TO MEAN I LOVE YOU AND I'M SORRY BECAUSE WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS GOING TO CAUSE YOU TREMENDOUS PAIN AND WORRY.

>> THEY WERE ATTACKED IN THE EARLY MORNING OF SATURDAY.

I HAVE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WHO LIVE THERE WITH ME.

IT WAS DESTROYED IN A BARBARIC IN HUMAN ATTACK IN WHICH DOZENS OF MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WERE KILLED.

MANY DOZENS MORE ARE KNOWN TO BE HOSTAGES , OR MISSING.

>> I AM HERE SPEAKING TODAY AND REACHING OUT TO MY SON WHO GREW UP THERE .

HE IS A ARM LENGTH AWAY IN GAZA, EVIDENTLY, HE COULD NOT BE FURTHER AWAY.

>> OUR HOPE , WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT RIDICULOUS AT THIS STAGE TO STAY, THE OPTIMISTIC SCENARIO IS THAT SHE IS HELD HOSTAGE IN GAZA AND NOT DEAD ON THE STREET.

>> THE FAMILIES HAVE CALLED ON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO HELP .

AS SOON AS THE PRESS THE WRAP, AIR RAID SIRENS BLARED A CLEAR REMINDER THAT WAR IS RAGING AND NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THIS IS HEADED .

HAMAS IS FLYING HUNDREDS OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE RECOVERED THE BODIES OF 1500 HAMAS FIGHTERS.

THOSE TERRORISTS WHO MADE THE INCURSION ON SATURDAY.

ISRAEL SAID MORE THAN 900 OF ITS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AND THAT NUMBER IS BOUND TO RISE.

THE PALESTINIAN HEALTH MINISTRY SAYS ISRAELI HEALTH STRIKES HAVE KILLED MORE THAN 800 PEOPLE.

I WANT TO BRING IN , ARMY GENERAL AND FORMER HEAD OF THE ARMED SERVICES AND WELCOME BACK TO OUR PROGRAM.

IT IS REALLY GOOD THAT WE HAVE YOU BECAUSE CLEARLY WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT IS THE NEXT DAY'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE?

WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE FOR THE MILITARY RESPONSE TO HAMAS IN GAZA ?

>> IT WAS THE MOST SEVERE LOW THAT ISRAEL GOT IN ITS EXISTENCE.

MAJOR FAILURE OF INTELLIGENCE AND OPERATION UP TO THE TOP POLITICAL LEADERSHIP.

WE NOW HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPER LOW IN ORDER TO HAVE SUCH AN EVENT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE .

IT CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT CERTAIN RISK OF WIDENING THE CIRCLE TO HELP ALIGN THE NORTH AND .

WE CANNOT PREDICT IT.

-- EASILY DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAMAS WILL , TO THESE BARBARIAN ATTACKS.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE HOSTAGES?

CAN YOU DO THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY?

DOES ONE HAVE TO HAPPEN FIRST?

WHAT IS THE STRATEGY?

SENSITIVE ISSUE.

OF COURSE IT PUTS A CONSTRAIN ON THE CONSIDERATIONS BUT IT SEEMS TO BE CLEVER TO SHARE THESE NEW ANSWERS BETWEEN ME AND YOU ON TV BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO PRINT I DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR DISCUSSION.

>> LET ME ASK YOU, HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT THE HOSTAGES SURVIVE?

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR YOU TAKING THE HOSTAGES?

WHAT IS THE STRATEGIC REGION REASON FOR HAMAS DOING THAT?

>> IT IS UNPRECEDENTED, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE , THEIR SUCCESS WENT MUCH BEYOND THEIR EXPECTATIONS, I BELIEVE.

OF COURSE THEY WANT TO GET ALL OF THEIR PRISONERS TO BE FREED.

THEY WILL TRY TO NAVIGATE IT TO ITS END.

IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW IT WILL END .

>> IF IT WAS YOU AND YOU KNOW ISRAEL ENTERED THIS LOPSIDED HOSTAGE EXCHANGE THERE WERE 1100 OR SO PALESTINIANS RELEASED THESE ARE MANY MANY MORE BY A HUGE FACTOR .

WOULD YOU RELEASE ALL THE PRISONERS IN RETURN FOR THESE?

>> FIRST OF ALL ONLY -- HAVE A PASSPORT AND SOME OF THEM ARE GENUINELY FOREIGNERS SOME ARE WORKING, OTHERS ARE AMERICAN, BRITISH OR OTHER NATION PASSPORTS.

I ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD BE READY TO RELEASE THEM.

EVEN IF THERE IS ENOUGH HOSTAGES TO NEGOTIATE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE.

I DO NOT THINK IT WOULD BE CLEVER FOR ME TO DISCUSS WITH YOU THAT'S MY >> I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN GIVEN WHAT DID HAPPEN.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT MOMENT PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU HAS SAID, NOT JUST TO EXACT REVENGE AND ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT TO CHANGE, TO TOTALLY DECAPITATE AND DECIMATE HAMAS .

THESE ARE THE WORDS WE ARE HEARING AND I ASSUME REMOVE THE MILITARY CAPABILITY INSIDE GAZA.

IN PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS YOU HAVE LEFT THEM THERE.

END GOAL REGARDING THEM.

>> THEY HAVE MOBILIZED SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF RESERVES ALL OVER THE AREA.

IF THEY DO NOT NEED IT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT BUT IT MIGHT POSSIBLY HAPPEN.

EVEN IF YOU ARE FIGHTING AGAINST , ISRAEL IS NOT UNDER ANY THREAT.

ISRAEL WILL WIN.

WE KNOW HOW TO FIGHT .

I SAY TO --EVENT WE WIN BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IT MIGHT TAKE TIME.

WE MIGHT HAVE UPS AND DOWNS.

IT IS SOMETHING , WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE EVEN IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC PICTURES IT IS QUITE SUCKING.

WE LOST MORE PEOPLE THAN IN THE WHOLE SIX DAYS , OR THREE YEARS IN ONE DAY.

THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN ISRAEL PEOPLE TRY TO COMPARE IT TO 911.

911 WAS THE USE OF CIVILIAN AIRPLANES , BREAKING THE BARRIER AND ATTACKING -- THE OPTION LEAST OF THE HAMAS.

WE PAID A HUGE PRICE.

NOW IT'S NOT JUST FOR REVENGE , WE TO MAKE SURE THAT -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

YOU NEED TO ESTABLISH THE AGAIN.

I NEED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE ENEMY , THAT IS HAMAS.

HAMAS SELF-DECLARED MILITARY COMMANDER SAID IN A RECORDED MESSAGE THE ENEMY, I.E.

ISRAEL, WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE TIME OF THEIR RAMPAGING WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY HAS ENDED.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND?

>> HAMAS TRIES TO COMPEL TO ANY ORGANIZATION.

SOME OF THEM ARE A BETTER LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE AND IT ALSO WAS A SURPRISE AND MADE THE ATTACK SUCCESSFUL .

WE HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY .

I AM SURPRISED BY THE SUCCESS , BUT BASICALLY THEY ARE A TOUGH ENEMY.

IN THE END WE COULD MAKE PEACE WITH IT , THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE PEACE WITH HAMAS.

THEY SHOULD BE FROM BEING ABLE TO COME AGAIN AS THEY ARE FIGHTING AGAINST ISRAEL .

THIS WILL TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF EFFORT AND A LOT OF SACRIFICE I HOPE -- >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT , I KNOW YOU SAID IT, THIS IS THE WORST DAY IN OUR HISTORY AND A HUGE FAILURE AS EVERYONE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT , YOU JUST SET IT, INTELLIGENCE AND ALL THE WAY UP THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.

I SPOKE TO A FORMER DIRECTOR WHO SAID THE SYSTEM IS SUFFERING A VERY SEISMIC SHOCK .

THE SENTIMENT INSIDE YOUR COUNTRY IS JUST IN TERRIBLE SHOCK.

LIKE EVERYONE WONDERING HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN.

HOW DO THEY DO THIS?

HOW ?

WE HAVE GROWN UP BELIEVING THAT YOU HAVE A SUPERPOWER IN AND INTELLIGENCE WISE.

>> IT REMAINS A SUPERPOWER COMPARED TO HAMAS, BUT IT IS , THEY ARE DETERMINED YOUNGSTERS AND THEY CONTINUE THE FRICTION WITH US .

THE BEST OF MEN I'M UP AND LEARN THEIR LESSONS.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THEIR CAPABILITIES TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ASSUME.

IT REMAINS A ORGANIZATION EVEN IF THEY ARE BETTER TRAINED AND BETTER EQUIPPED .

NO MODERN CIVILIZED COUNTRY CAN HAVE SUCH , OR EXECUTE SUCH AN OPERATION --IS THE UPPER ECHELON OF THE INNER COVENANT WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT IT IS NOW RELATIVELY WEAK .

--OF THE SECRET SERVICE AND THAT IS A WEAK COMBINATION AND A WEAK TEAM TO LEAD SUCH A CRISIS.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A CHANGE DUE TO THIS EMERGENCY .

SOME MORE SERIOUS PEOPLE --IN ORDER TO LEAD THE CRISIS CALMLY AND COOLHEADED.

I ALWAYS QUESTION STRATEGIC ESPECIALLY IT IS NOT A RECIPE FOR SUCCESSFUL STRATEGIC DECISION.

>> CAN I ASK YOU ONE LESS QUESTION?

THIS HAS COME UP ANY TIMES THAT YOU HAVE HAD ENGAGEMENT AGAINST GAZA AND HAMAS.

THE CIVILIANS ARE ALSO ATTACKED, WHETHER OR NOT YOU SAY YOU INTENDED THEY ARE.

ACCORDING TO THE MINISTRY IN GAZA NEARLY 800 PEOPLE WERE KILLED INCLUDING MORE THAN 100 CHILDREN .

4000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WOUNDED AND YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT , YOUR OWN DEFENSE MINISTER HAS DECLARED GAZA UNDER SIEGE WHICH THE U.S. IS SAYING IS ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW STOPPING WATER, FOOD AND ELECTRICITY.

HOW LONG WILL YOUR GOVERNMENT GO ONCE , YOU KNOW WILL HAPPEN, THERE WILL BE CRITICISM OF THE CARNAGE THAT WE SEE INSIDE GAZA.

>> WE TRIED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ANNOUNCE IN ADVANCE THERE IS ANY ACTIVITY OF HAMAS TO LEAVE THE PLACE FOR WE TRY TO PASS THIS KIND OF WARNING.

WE ARE A CIVILIZED COUNTRY.

EVERY COUNTRY OPERATES UNDER SUCH SITUATION.

-- HAVING TO ATTACK IF THEY DELIBERATELY DEPLOY THEMSELVES WHILE THEY --IN ORDER TO -- >> I KNOW .

OUR NEXT GUEST HAS REALLY GUEST WHO HAS SUFFERED.

FORMER PRIME MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR STRATEGIC EXPERTISE.

>> AS I SAID ISRAEL IS HAVE BEEN SHAKEN TO THE CORE.

LOOK AT THESE PICTURES FROM SATURDAY THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

THESE ARE PALESTINIAN GUNMEN DRIVING AWAY INTO THE GAZA STRIP WITH CAPTURED ISRAELI CIVILIANS ON GOLF CARTS INCLUDING ELDERLY WOMEN WHOSE FACES WE ARE BLURRING.

ALSO THEY ARE TAKING THEM AWAY ON A MOTORCYCLE.

ABBY IS AN AMERICAN ISRAELI WHO OVER THE WEEKEND LIKE SO MANY OTHERS WHEN SHE SAID FIVE OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS WERE KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS AND TAKEN TO GAZA, THREE OF THEM WERE CHILDREN 16 AND YOUNGER .

SHE JOINS ME FROM JERUSALEM.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED MEMBERS, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE.

HOW DID THEY GET TAKEN AND SNATCHED ?

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

EVERYONE WOKE UP TO SIRENS AND WARNINGS AND WE HAD A , WE BEGAN GETTING MESSAGES FROM OUR FAMILY CLOSE TO THE GAZA BORDER THAT HAMAS WAS THERE AND WE BEGAN GETTING PHOTOS AND VIDEOS IN GENERAL THAT THERE WAS A MASSIVE INFILTRATION OF TERRORIST.

WE GOT MESSAGES FROM THE FAMILY THAT THEY WERE IN THE HOUSE AND THEY COULD HEAR GUNFIRE AND THEY WERE AFRAID FOR THEIR LIVES.

THEY WERE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IT IS A GRANDMOTHER, THREE OF HER GRANDCHILDREN AND SON-IN-LAW.

ONE IS 13 AND SPECIAL NEEDS, ONE IS 80 AND THE MATRIARCH OF THE FAMILY.

WE LOST CONTACT WITH THEM AROUND 11 OR 12 .

THINK THIS IS A HOLOCAUST AND WE ARE AFRAID WE WILL NOT LIVE.

WE KNOW ONCE THE ARMY TOOK CONTROL OF THEIR , THE PHYSICAL PLACE WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND AND ALMOST HALF OF THE RESIDENTS WERE SLAUGHTERED IN COLD BLOOD.

THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DID NOT FIND WERE TAKEN HOSTAGE.

>> ONE OF THOSE APPEARS TO BE, AS YOU SAID , A 12-YEAR-OLD MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY.

WE HAVE A VIDEO AND I KNOW YOU WANTED US TO SHOW THIS VIDEO SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED.

HERE IS LITTLE 12-YEAR-OLD BEING MANHANDLED AS HE APPEARS TO BE TAKEN CAPTIVE GREAT HE IS ONE.

TELL US ABOUT HIM.

>> I HAVE A 12-YEAR-OLD SON IN THE OTHER ROOM AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THIS BECAUSE IT IS A PARENT'S WORST NIGHTMARE.

IT IS THE WORST THING IMAGINABLE TO SEE SOMEONE PUT THEIR HANDS ON YOUR CHILD AND PULL AND PUSH THEM AND TAKE THEM AWAY.

HE IS A 12-YEAR-OLD LIKE MY SON PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND RIDING HIS BIKE AND A BROTHER TO HIS SISTERS AND A GRANDCHILD AND A BELOVED MEMBER OF HIS FAMILY .

THIS WAS A HORRIFIC ACT OF TERRORISM AGAINST CIVILIANS.

>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY SUPPORT?

HAS YOUR FAMILY BEEN APPROACHED BY THE GOVERNMENT, THE MILITARY , OFFICIALS , ARE YOU GETTING ANY DIRECTION ON WHAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING OR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT?

>> WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST ON OUR OWN.

WE HAVE BOTH AMERICAN AND FRENCH WORKING TO PUT PRESSURE WHERE WE CAN.

WE ARE TRYING TO SPEAK AS MANY LANGUAGES AS WE CAN.

WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IDENTIFIED AND TRY TO FOLLOW PROTOCOLS.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN THAT VIDEO.

>> YOU JUST MENTIONED KAMALA , SHE IS 80 , WHAT IS HER HISTORY ?

SHE IS A SURVIVOR ?

>> HER FATHER WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES AND HE MOVED TO HUNDRED YEARS AGO TO BUILD THE COUNTRY.

SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH HORRY WHO WAS FROM, AND THEY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS.

SHE IS THE MATRIARCH OF THE FAMILY AND SHE'S THE HAPPIEST, FUNNIEST, MOST LOVING WOMAN AND SHE WAS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THIS PLACE AND THIS LAND AND FAMILY.

SHE WAS AN AMERICAN AND SHE ALSO LIVED IN FRANCE REPRESENTING ISRAEL GREAT SHE IS ALSO A FRENCH CITIZEN .

IT IS A ISSUE OF GLOBAL URGENCY .

STATES IS EXPECTED TO SPEAK SHORTLY.

WE WILL SEE IF HE MENTIONS AMERICAN HOSTAGES AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL HOSTAGES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>>> HERE IS ONE SCENE UNFOLDING IN GAZA .

A WARNING, THIS FOOTAGE IS GRAPHIC AND UPSETTING .

THIS IS A MORGUE OVERWHELMED WITH THE DEAD.

OVER 800 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AND MORE THAN 4000 ENTERED .

THIS WAS THE FUNERAL PROCESSION TODAY FOR TWO NOBLE PALESTINIAN JOURNALIST WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN AN AIRSTRIKE.

PEOPLE ON THE GROUND ARE IN A CONSTANT STATE OF FEAR FOR WHAT MAY BE COMING AS GAZA IS UNDER SIEGE THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION SAYS IS PROHIBITED UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW.

YOU WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE FORMER PRIME MINISTER ABOUT THIS WHO SAID THAT THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO WARN CIVILIANS INSIDE GAZA.

S GO TO THE DOCTOR.

DR., CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT KIND OF WARNINGS, WHAT KIND OF TIME YOU HAVE TO ESCAPE?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING UNDER THIS CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCE?

>> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME IN.

THE WARNING THAT PEOPLE USUALLY RECEIVE BEFORE THERE HOME IS DEMOLISHED OR BEING TORN DOWN IS , IT IS A SMALL SIZED ROCKET THAT COULD DEMOLISH ONE OR TWO FLOORS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE PILOT AND IT DEPENDS ON WHO WAS GIVING THE ORDERS WHETHER THEY GIVE 10 MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES OR SOMETIMES ONE MINUTE.

YOU JUST RUN AWAY WITH YOUR AWAY BECAUSE SHE IS ABLE TO CARRY ONE WITH HER BUT OTHERS ARE IN ANOTHER ROOM OR ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE HOUSE WOULD BE DEMOLISHED ON TOP OF THEM.

THIS IS A PILOT LEARNING TO BRING DOWN THIS BUILDING AND HAVE MERCY ON THIS PEOPLE.

--YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE AND TODAY, SO MANY THINGS WERE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE GROUND WITHOUT WARNING AND THAT BRINGS UP THE NUMBER OF HUMAN DEATHS FROM 400 YESTERDAY TO 170 TODAY INCLUDING SEVEN CHILDREN.

THREE OF THEM WERE TRYING TO GET TO A BUILDING THAT WAS HOSTING INTERNATIONAL NEWS AGENCIES AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD GIVE THEM 20 MINUTES TO 20 MINUTES.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

WHILE THEY WERE COMING TO THIS BUILDING THE F-16 TARGETED , KILLING THREE OF THEM , THIS WILL ADD UP TO THE OTHERS THAT WERE KILLED THIS WAS OF EIGHT PARAMEDICS AND ONE DOCTOR KILLED IN THE PREVIOUS THREE DAYS.

>> DR., LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION .

AS YOU HAVE HEARD AND THE ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY THERE IS A COMPLETE SIEGE OF GAZA, NO FOOD, ELECTRICITY, FUEL OR WATER .

ARE YOU EXPERIENCING THE LACK YET?

WHAT IS THE SITUATION ?

>> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, --AS A DOCTOR AND A FELLOW OF OXFORD I CAN SPEAK WITH NUMBERS, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS.

WE HAVE A POPULATION OF CHILDREN UNDER FIVE AND THIS HAS REACHED SIX TO 7% OF ALL CHILDREN.

CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS WILL LEAD TO .

65% OF ALL CHILDBEARING WOMEN SUFFER FROM.

--WILL SUFFER FROM MALNUTRITION .

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BRING IN FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO OR THREE YEARS AGO WE STARTED BRINGING FRUITS AND VEGETABLES INTO GAZA -- AGAIN, MEDICINE --WHICH CONTAINS DIALYSIS, PROBLEMS -- WE MIGHT BE SPEAKING ABOUT 2020-2022 AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LACKING AND PEOPLE ARE --WHEN YOU HAVE CIVILIANS WHO DIE -- THIS WAS NEVER -- WHETHER IT IS PALESTINIAN, ISRAELI, INDIAN, AMERICAN -- THAT BEING THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ISSUE I THINK -- WHICH IS ENDING THE OCCUPATION AND GIVING THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE THEIR RIGHTS [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS OCCUPATION IS LONG LASTING OCCUPATION.

IT SAYS 75 YEARS BUT --WE OUR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 10 --UNTIL THEY REACHED THE AGE OF 17 AND THEN THEY ARE SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON OR 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS IN PRISON.

I THINK PALESTINIANS HAVE SUFFERED A LOT THEY HAVE ENDURED WARS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS MORE THAN -- MORE THAN 12,000 PALESTINIANS IN THE LAST -- >> CAN I ASK YOU -- >> JUST GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

MANY OF THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT IS NOT FUNCTIONING WELL.

I KNOW -- -- THEY DEMOLISHED THE HOSPITAL --PART OF THE UNIT WAS DEMOLISHED TO PART OF THE -- WAS DEMOLISHED .

THIS ONLY READS MORE VIOLENCE.

VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE .

THE ONLY SOLUTION IS A PEACEFUL SOLUTION .

>> SOME ISRAELI PARENTS HAVE BEEN TOLD TO REMOVE SOCIAL MEDIA FROM THEIR CHILDREN'S PHONES WITH HORRIFIC VIDEO SPREADING ON LINE AND OF COURSE HOSTAGE VIDEOS EMERGING.

THE MISINFORMATION AND HATE SPEECH THAT CAN FILL THESE PLATFORMS CREATE A DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THE INTERNET.

--IS THE CEO OF THE CENTER FOR DIGITAL AGE AND HE IS JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE CHALLENGES OF REGULATING THIS DAMAGING CONTENT.

>> WE ALEX LANGE HATE , OUR ONGOING SERIES ON EXPORTING ANTI-SEMITISM AND RACISM .

>> YOUR CENTER FOR ENCOUNTERING DIGITAL HATE WORKS OVERTIME WHEN IT COMES TO WARS AND PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGNS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING ONLINE THE PAST 48, 72 HOURS AS THIS WAR HAS BROKEN OUT?

>> WE HAVE SEEN A WAVE OF MISINFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.

IT IS KIND OF UNUSABLE AT THE MOMENT.

WE HAVE BAD ACTORS AND THAT IS FOREIGN STATES, IT IS EXTREMIST BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT AS POSSIBLE AND INCREDIBLY CYNICAL AND IT IS A BUSINESS MODEL FOR SOME PEOPLE.

AND ALSO ENJOY CAUSING PAIN .

AND THEN WE HAVE A PLATFORM IN WISH THE ALGORITHM AMPLIFIES THE MOST EXTREME CONTENT .

THEY DO NOT ENFORCE THEIR RULES AND IN THE CASE OF X , FORMALLY KNOWN AS TWITTER, --CONSULT THE OWNER --TO GET THE REAL TRUTH.

YOU CAN SEE THIS TIDAL WAVE OF THIS INFORMATION AND BY THE WAY THE PLATFORMS AND THEY OVERWHELM US.

I DO NOT THINK WE ARE READY FOR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, THESE PLATFORMS HAVE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND YEARS.

THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE HAMAS STARTS LIVE STREAMING EXECUTIONS.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE ?

I DON'T KNOW THE WAY TO STOP IT.

BETTER ALGORITHMICALLY TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT BUT USUALLY YOU CANNOT PREDICT WHAT WILL BE ON A LIVE STREAM, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD STOP IT.

>> THAT IS THE PROBLEM .

PLATFORMS HAVE NEVER SPENT ANY TIME THINKING ABOUT SAFETY BY DESIGN.

THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED THE AMOUNT OF CONTENT THAT THEY CAN GET OUT THERE .

I JUST COME FROM A MEETING WHERE --WE ARE GOING TO SEE NEXT TO A CHILD OR ELDERLY PERSON BEING HURT .

I DON'T THINK WE ARE READY FOR THE WAY IN WHICH CORPORATE MONETIZE MISINFORMATION.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT I KNOW ELON MUSK DELETED THOSE SPECIFIC TWEETS AND HE TWEETED AS ALWAYS, TRY TO STAY AS CLOSE TO THE TRUTH AS POSSIBLE.

GOING TO THE PLATFORM THAT IS CONTROLLED BY HIM , HIS ROLE IN SPREADING THIS INFORMATION SEEMS SINGULAR .

WE DO NOT SEE MARK ZUCKERBERG OR ANYONE ON THEIR PLATFORMS DOING WHAT HE DOES >> HE IS THE PERSONIFICATION OF A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.

I HAVE NO REAL ISSUE WITH ELON MUSK THE MAN I AM SURE HE IS QUITE REALLY AT ENGINEER AND I AM SURE HE IS A GREAT DAD.

I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE INDUSTRY THAT HE REPRESENTS.

REALLY HE REPRESENTS DIFFERENCE TO HUMAN SAFETY, THE INDIFFERENCE TO THE HARM THAT GOVERNS THESE PLATFORMS AND GREED IN ADVERTISING OVER HUMAN SAFETY.

HE IS SAYING OUT LOUD WHAT MARK ZUCKERBERG, THE HEAD OF FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM HAS NOT --BUT DO ALL THE TIME WHICH IS PUT PROFITS BEFORE PEOPLE.

>> IN THE CASE OF X, THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS A TOTAL FLIP.

I ONCE HAD A VERIFIED BLUE CHECKMARK BECAUSE I WAS A JOURNALIST AND THAT CHECKMARK WENT AWAY AND WAS REPLACED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE WILLING TO PAY A FEW DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THAT CHECKMARK, MYSELF NOT INCLUDED .

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO HOW WE THINK OF A FACT OR SOMETHING THAT IS VERIFIABLE ?

>> THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME YEARS.

WHAT BECAME APPARENT TO ME IS THAT --SOCIETIES AROUND THE WORLD NOW DO THINGS LIKE SHARE INFORMATION AND NEGOTIATE VALUES BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THE INFORMATION THAT WE DECIDE TO CALL FAX HAS SHIFTED TO ONLINE SPACES, TWO GROUPS , TWO THAT WAS CONTROLLED BY SOCIAL MEDIA ALGORITHMS.

WHAT WAS BEING PRIORITIZED WAS THE MOST EXTREME TO A LENS THROUGH WHICH YOU SEE THE WORLD WAS DISTORTED TO BRING THE FRINGES TOWARDS THE MIDDLE.

WITHOUT ANY WARNING LIKE YOU WOULD GET IN , THINGS MAY APPEAR CLOSER THAN THEY REALLY ARE GREAT ACTUALLY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THIS IS THE GLOBAL DEBATE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE FOOLED INTO THINKING THINGS ARE QUITE MAINSTREAM AND IT HAS SHAPED OUR POLITICS GLOBALLY AS A RESULT.

THAT HAS AFFECTED JOURNALISTS AND POLITICIANS.

NONE OF US CAN SAY THAT WE SAW THE PROBLEM AND WE DEALT WITH IT.

>> WHEN THERE IS MISS INFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION SPREADS AS RAPIDLY AS IT DOES ON THESE PLATFORMS, WALK US THROUGH THE CONSEQUENCES .

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE CONSUMER OF THE INFORMATION?

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE ACTORS IN THE FIELD IF THEY FALL PREY TO IT?

>> THERE ARE DIFFERENT MOMENTS OF DISINFORMATION.

THE BRICK OF DISINFORMATION THAT CHANGES THE LENS THAT PEOPLE SEE THE WORLD AND HAS THEM SEE THE WORLD IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND GIVES THEM A PRECURSOR TO HATE.

LYING AND CHEATING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONNECTED IF THEY ACTUALLY REFLECT --THEY CREATE THE CONDITIONS FOR HATE.

THEY GIVE PEOPLE THE MOTIVATION TO , THE CREATION OF FAKE EMERGENCIES AND --WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU ABOUT.

THE TRUTH IS --NO ONE KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN JEWISH PEOPLE WHETHER IT BE 2000 YEARS AGO OR IT BE --THAT INFORMED ADOLF HITLER'S IDEOLOGY.

LIFE ALWAYS HAD A CRITICAL PART OF HATE.

WE HAVE URGE THEM TO ADOPT STRICT WAYS AS POSSIBLE FOR -- THAT IS INCREDIBLY FAMILIAR BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY LEAD DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE DOING CHARITABLE THINGS.

LET'S TAKE THE GREAT REPLACEMENT 30 WHICH IS THE THEORY THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING IN --THAT LED TO THE SLAUGHTER OF JUICE IN PITTSBURGH AT THE TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE AND IT LED DIRECTLY TO -- WITH A CONSPIRACY THEORY AND IT LED TO THE MURDER OF MY COLLEAGUE --AND THE BRITISH EU REFERENDUM WHICH STARTED ME ON MY JOURNEY.

>> I GUESS IN THE PAST 72 HOURS , HAVE YOU SEEN EXAMPLES OF ANTI-JEWISH SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT?

ANTI-ARAB, ANTI-PALESTINIAN ?

>> THE TRUTH IS , BECAUSE PLATFORMS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BECOME --THEY HAVE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF STAFF AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE BECOME LESS TRANSPARENT , IN PART AS A REACTION TO THE GROWING AWARENESS MONTH OF LEGISLATORS AND THESE PLATFORMS ARE QUITE PROBLEMATIC.

THEY MADE THEMSELVES HARDER TO STUDY.

IN THE MOST EXTREME CASES HE TRIED TO STUDY THEM , IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY IN THIS PARTICULAR , WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE .

WHAT I CAN SAY IS IF YOU SPEAK TO ANYONE, IF YOU AND I USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE LOOK AT THE NEWSFEED IT IS ALMOST UNUSABLE BECAUSE THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF DISINFORMATION INTERMINGLING MINGLING SEAMLESSLY WITH GOOD INFORMATION AND IT MAKES IT A JOB UNTO ITSELF TO READ SOCIAL MEDIA AND TRY TO WORK OUT WHAT IS TRUE.

IT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I CAN REMEMBER WHERE MY FIRST INSTINCT TO SWITCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I QUICKLY SWITCHED IT OFF AND I TURNED ON CNN OR BBC BECAUSE I NEEDED TO HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY , MAYBE NOT SUPER UP-TO-DATE BUT TIMELY FACT CHECK AND GOOD INFORMATION PAID >> I DON'T WANT TO AMPLIFY THE MISINFORMATION BUT GIVE US EXAMPLES OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE SEEING ONLINE .

>> WE HAVE A POLICY TO NOT TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUAL MEMES , WE ARE SEEING THINGS THAT DEHUMANIZE IS REALLY AND DEHUMANIZE JEWS .

THEY WILL INFLATE THE NUMBERS THAT ON ONE SITE AND DEFLATE THE NUMBERS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THE TRUTH IS, WE ARE ALSO BEYOND HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.

ATROCITIES .

WOMEN RAPED , PEOPLE MURDERED AND WE ALSO SEE PEOPLE REACTING TO THOSE WITH JOY.

IN ANY WAY IN LIFE IF YOU REACT TO SOMEONE BEING TREATED RUDELY BY JUMPING FOR JOY, IF YOU DID IT ON THE STREET YOU WOULD QUICKLY REALIZE THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR BEHAVIOR LIKE THAT.

SOCIAL MEDIA GIVES YOU MORE CLOUT, MORE FOLLOWERS AND MORE MONEY AND THAT IS A SERIES OF DANGEROUS INCENTIVES .

>> I SHOULD MENTION ELON MUSK'S PLATFORM IS TRYING TO SUE YOU AND THEY SAY YOU ARE UNJUSTLY TARGETING PEOPLE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ATTEMPTING TO AFFECT FREE SPEECH AND ILLEGALLY GAIN PEOPLE'S PASSWORDS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE TO RESPOND LEGALLY, BUT WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT THE LAWSUIT BUT THE INITIAL REPORT OF THIS?

HAS BEEN THE INITIAL REPORT WAS A STUDY WE DID ON TWITTER LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT SEVEN OF THE MOST EXTREME SLURS AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE , AGAINST GAY , WOMEN, JEWS, WE USED THIS PLATFORM AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THE USE OF THE N WORD TRIPLED.

HE LEFT THOUSANDS OF THEM OFF THAT HE PREVIOUSLY SUSPENDED READ HE SAID IT IS FREE SPEECH.

IN DOING SO HE GAVE THEM POSSIBLE SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THE RULES ANYMORE.

I THINK THAT WAS BASICALLY US SAYING DO YOU LIKE THE REFLECTIONS THAT YOU SEE?

MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR, HE SEES THE MIRROR AND HE SAYS HOW DARE YOU SHOW MY IMAGE TO BE UGLY BECAUSE I MUST BE PERFECT FOR I AM ELON MUSK.

I THINK HE IS DOING THIS BECAUSE WE REFLECTED BACK THE REALITY OF HIS PLATFORM.

THERE IS A QUESTION OF TAKING US THE COURT .

WE HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL DEFEAT HIM IN COURT.

THE TRUTH STILL MATTERS IN THE COURTS OF THE UNITED STATES.

WE HOPE THAT WHEN HE TAKES HIS OF THE CASTLE AND HE CAN SAY WHATEVER HE WANTS AND HE CAN BOOST HIMSELF , IN COURT I HAVE A EQUAL VOICE.

>> JIM JORDAN ALSO SUBPOENAED YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE HE BELIEVED YOU WERE WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND WERE CHARGED TO CENSOR AMERICANS.

>> WE HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT 100 EMAILS BETWEEN US AND, BOTH FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WE WORKED ON, AND MIKE POMPEO WROTE ME A NICE LETTER SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DID.

WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

I AM --WITH GOVERNMENTS.

WE DO NOT TAKE ANY MONEY FROM GOVERNMENTS OUR TECH COMPANIES.

WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE.

>> CONSIDERING HOW YOU ARE WORKING WITH LEGISLATORS IN THE UK AND THE EU, WHAT IS THE ROLE FOR THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT CAN THE UNITED STATES DO ?

IT SEEMS LIKE ACROSS THE POND THERE ARE ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT WHEREAS THE U.S. NOT SO MUCH.

>> IT IS INTERESTING.

FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO I SAID TO THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME A LAW THAT SAID COMPANIES HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR OWN RULES I WOULD GO OFF AND RETIRE WITH MY CAT.

FIVE OR SIX YEARS LATER THEY INTERESTING.

THEY BASICALLY SAID THERE ARE FOUR COMPONENTS TO SAFETY ONLINE SOME ARE HEALTHIER AND PRODUCTIVE AND PROSPEROUS , TRANSPARENCY.

WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY YOU CANNOT HAVE MEANINGFUL ACCOUNTABILITY .

THERE IS A BILL FOR ACCOUNTABILITY REGULATOR IN THE U.S. YOU NEED THE TRANSPARENCY OTHERWISE THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE CORRECT DATA.

IF THEY ARE HARMED AND PLATFORMS ARE NEGLIGENT THEY SHOULD BE HELD PARTLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE YOU CREATE AN ECONOMIC DISINCENTIVE OF THEM DOING THE WRONG THING IT ACROSS ALL THREE COMPONENTS , IF YOU GET THEM IN PLACE THEN YOU DO NOT NEED THEM ANYMORE .

THAT IS WHAT EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY HAS .

EVERY INDUSTRY HAS TO THINK IT IS UNIQUE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES THAT, THAT FRAMEWORK -- WHERE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD ARE IMPLEMENTING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE U.S. , I THINK WE ARE A FEW YEARS AWAY FROM IT.

IT HAS NOT RESTRICTED FREEDOM OF SPEECH , IT HAS MADE A HEALTHY PLATFORM ONLINE IN WHICH THE ALGORITHMS AND ENFORCEMENT AND THE WAY THEY RUN HELPS HUMANITY AND DOES NOT HINDER IT.

>> COFOUNDER AND CEO THE COFOUNDER OF --THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> IT IS TERRIFYING WHAT IS GOING ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS THIS COMES TO LIGHT.

LET'S GO TO THE U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL SPOKESMAN, JOHN KIRBY.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

YOU ARE AT THE WHITE HOUSE, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS DUE TO MAKE CAN YOU COME WITHOUT HAVING SEEN WHAT HE IS SAYING, CAN YOU TELL US THE IMPORTANT PARAMETERS OF WHAT HE WILL SAY ?

>> I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE DRAFT SPEECH.

THE PRESIDENT WILL MAKE A VERY CLEAR THAT WE STAND SOLIDLY BEHIND OUR GOOD FRIEND AND PARTNER ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELI PEOPLE AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE NECESSARY SECURITY SYSTEMS THAT THEY NEED , NOT JUST TO DEFEND THEMSELVES BUT TO GO AFTER THE HAMAS TERRORIST.

WE WILL HELP THEM BEAR THAT WITH APPROPRIATE WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION'S.

NUMBER TWO , HE IS GOING TO TALK PLAINLY ABOUT THE UNCERTAINTY AND ANXIETY AND WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE HOSTAGE CRISIS AND AROUND THE UNITED STATES STANDING BEHIND ISRAEL AS THEY TRY TO GRAPPLE WITH WHAT WILL BE A DIFFICULT EFFORT.

WE ARE OFFERING ADDITIONAL ADVICE AND COUNSEL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF HOSTAGE EXPERTISE HERE IN UNITED STATES AND WE ARE OFFERING THAT TO ISRAEL SHOULD THEY DESIRE IT AND FIND IT APPROPRIATE.

I THINK YOU WILL HEAR THE PRESIDENT TALK PLAINLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RISE AS A RESULT OF THESE ATTACKS OF ANTI-SEMITISM.

AROUND THE WORLD AND CERTAINLY HERE ON THE STREET HE UNDERSTANDS THE ANGUISH AND THE FEAR THAT MANY JEWISH PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE FEELING AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE RATCHETED UP AT A LOCAL LEVEL TO MONITOR THE PICTURE HERE AT HOME TO MAKE SURE THE ISRAELI PEOPLE CAN FEEL SAFE GOING TO SYNAGOGUES , WORSHIPING, GOING TO COMMUNITY CENTERS AND BEING OUT AND ABOUT.

WE KNOW A LOT OF JEWISH PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE FEARFUL RIGHT NOW IN THE WAKE OF THESE ATTACKS.

>> YOU SPOKE ABOUT HOSTAGES AND YOU HAVE PROBABLY COME ACROSS A PRESS CONFERENCE BY AMERICAN ISRAELIS ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY AMERICANS?

DO YOU HAVE A FIGURE OF HOW MANY HAVE BEEN TAKEN HOSTAGE?

>> WE DO NOT.

I DID SEE THAT PRESS CONFERENCE AND IT IS HEARTBREAKING.

WE CANNOT EVEN CONFIRM WITHOUT INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION THAT THERE ARE AMERICANS BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY HAMAS.

THAT SAID, JUST GIVEN THE NUMBERS AND THE SCOPE OF AMERICANS THAT LIVE IN ISRAEL WE HAVE TO ASSUME , SADLY, WE HAVE TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THERE ARE AMERICANS IN THAT POOL OF HOSTAGES AND THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO OFFER RECOVERY EXPERTISE TO THE ISRAELIS.

>> I WANT TO PLAY A SOUNDBITE FROM FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE APPEALING TO YOUR MINISTRATION >> I WANT YOU ALSO TO THINK ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION , PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SECRETARY OF STATE BLINKEN HAS FOR THE LIFE OF EVERY U.S. CITIZEN .

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO BRING U.S. CITIZENS BACK HOME SAFE AND SOUND .

WE EXPECT NOTHING LESS FROM THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION AND FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN .

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK HE MIGHT SAY TO THEM?

>> THE PRESIDENT WOULD SAY DIRECTLY TO THEM THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THE FEAR AND ANXIETY AND THE UNCERTAINTY THAT HE HAS NO HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF AMERICANS OVERSEAS, PARTICULARLY AMERICANS WHO HAVE BEEN HELD HOSTAGE OR WRONGFULLY DETAINED.

WE HAVE SKEWED SECURE THE RELEASE OF ALMOST 40 AMERICANS OVERSEAS.

WE ARE MINDFUL THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT AMERICANS ARE MONKS THOSE BEING HELD HOSTAGE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE ISRAELIS TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THEM HOME.

WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW THAT GENTLEMEN UNDERSTANDS AS WELL, THIS IS NOT A NORMAL WRONGFUL DETENTION, THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD HOSTAGE AT GUNPOINT AND THAT WOULD THREATEN THEIR LIVES IN PLACES WHERE WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.

IT IS A WAR ZONE.

ANY RECOVERY EFFORT WILL BE COMPLICATED BY THAT.

IF THE PRESIDENT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THAT GENTLEMEN AND THE OTHER FAMILIES WHO WERE AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE HE CAN TELL THEM AND HE UNDERSTANDS THEIR FEARS.

HE SHARES THAT FEAR AND WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO GET THEM HOME.

>> CAN I ASK YOU THIS, CNN REPORTS THAT IN THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH HE WILL NOT URGE ISRAELI RESTRAINT IN WHATEVER IS COMING NEXT.

POTENTIALLY A GROUND INVASION.

WE HAVE HAD DIRE REPORTS FROM PALESTINIAN MILITANTS AND DOCTORS WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY OF THESE ROUNDS BEFORE, THIS IS THE WORST , THERE ARE AT LEAST 800 PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THESE RETALIATION RAIDS.

I UNDERSTAND THE PRESIDENT HAD A CALL WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PROTECT CIVILIAN INNOCENT LIVES INSIDE GAZA AND IS IT POSSIBLE?

WHAT DID HE SAY TO THE PRIME MINISTER ON THE PHONE CALL ?

>> NOBODY WANTS TO SEE ANY MORE INNOCENT CIVILIANS KILLED , THAT IS THE BASELINE.

THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH DEATH AS THERE IS , WE ARE UP NEAR 1000 ISRAELIS BUTCHERED AND SLAUGHTERED HERE IN THESE FIRST FEW DAYS.

NO ONE WANTS TO SEE ADDITIONAL CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT ISRAEL HAS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES , THEY HAVE TO CONDUCT THESE OPERATIONS AND THEY HAVE TO GO AFTER HAMAS PRAYED GIVEN THE BARBARITY THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS WE RECOGNIZE THAT AS TWO VIBRANT DEMOCRACIES , THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL, WE SHARE COMMON VALUES AND RESPECT FOR INNOCENT LIFE.

WE SHARE COMMON INTERESTS AND WE SHARE RESPECT FOR THE RULE OF LAW AND OF WAR.

WE OPERATE TOGETHER AND OUR RELATIONSHIP GETS BETTER AND WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER WHEN WE SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE NOT LIKE HAMAS AND THAT WE DO NOT INDISCRIMINATELY GO AFTER SOMEONE.

HAMAS IS MAKING A MOCKERY OF THEIR RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AS WE AWAIT PRESIDENT BIDEN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

ISRAELIS HAVE ANSWERED THE CALL TO DONATE BLOOD FOR THE INJURED .

A SPECIAL DONATION DRIVE HAS BEEN ORGANIZED IN TEL AVIV FOLLOWING THE DEVASTATING ATTACK.

PEOPLE ARE LINING UP TO GIVE BLOOD WITH SOME WAITING HOURS TO DONATE.

AS WE HEARD IN GAZA FROM THE DOCTOR IT IS DIFFICULT TO REACH AND TREAT THE INJURED CIVILIANS.

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