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.. LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS STARTING WITH RANDI NAUGHTON, NOW THE HOST OF MORE TO SAY.

THANKS, RANDI FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

>> WE WELCOME BACK ANDY BANKER FROM FOX 2, REPORTER, ANCHOR AND THE GUY WHO WRANGLES JOHN HANCOCK AND KELLY ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.

>&g.. FORMER CO-WORKER RANDI.

>> REUNITED AND IT FEELS SO GOOD.

JOE HOLL.. POST DISPATCH AND ALVIN REID FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

RANDI, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH YOU.

BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS ARE ASKING THAT ABOUT 232 MILLION OF THE $272 MILLION RAMS SETTLEMENT, WE SUED THE RAMS, AND THE CITY GOT 200.

&g.. >> NOW WITH INTEREST IT'S UP TO $272 MILLION.

NOW BUSI.. TAKE 232 MILLION OF THAT AND ABOUT HALF WILL GO TO NORTH ST. LOUIS.

..

DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS FOR SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS TO BUSINESSES AND BUILDINGS, ET CETERA.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN HAD A POLL OF CITIZENS, AND THE CITIZENS WANT THAT MONEY TO GO TO WATER MAINS, FIXING THE DLAB DATED WATER MAINS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT I SEE BOTH SIDES.. ALL, HE SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.

I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH.

.. FROM THE TIME THE DOME IS BEING BUILT, COVERED THE TEAM AS A SPORTS REPORTER AND HEARING THEM LIE ON TV TO ALL OF ST. LOUIS ABOUT NOT MOVING THE TEAM OUT.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT IS THE QUESTION?

THE .. ANSWER IS YOU SEE WHO BENEFITS THE MOST.

WATER MAINS HELP EVERYBODY.

I'M ON THE FENCE ABOUT THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THEY ARE GOING TO GO.

I THINK YOU HAVE GOT TO GO WITH THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

>> PASSIONATE LIAM BIF LENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

>> YES, I AM.

>> SOME PEOPLE SAY, AND MEGAN GREEN SAYS IT SHOULD BE IN SOME SORT OF TRUST.

SO WE WILL LIVE OFF THE IN..

FOREVER.

>..

I THINK YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A RESERVE.

I ..

RESPONSIBLE ADULTS, WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE SOME MONEY SAVED.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

SO I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO THAT.

I ALSO THINK T.. 232, DOES IT COME THROUGH GREATER ST. LOUIS GETS TO DECIDE WHO GOES TO NORTH ST. LOUIS.

AND 2, WHERE DP THE MONEY GO, TO THEM?

THAT HAL.. ST. LOUIS, HOW DO YOU DECIDE HOW THAT GETS SPENT?

I DON'T LIKE THAT THIS ONE ENTITY WANTS TO TAKE SUCH A VAST AMOUNT OF THIS MONEY.

MAYBE YOU ASK FOR A LOT KNOWING YOU ONLY GET HALF OF THAT, AND HALF OF THAT GOES NOW TO NORTH ST. LOUIS.

I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH GIVE US THE MONEY.

I DON'T CARE.

YOU HAVE GOT RICH AND POWERFUL PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.

THEY HAVE NEEDS, AND SECURITY BEING AT THE TOP OF THEM.

BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT ASK.

>> I HAVE FOUND OUT OVER THE YEARS THAT POLITICIANS LOVE TO ASK PEOPLE WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THIS?

AND THEN COMPLET..

ADVICE WHEN IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH IT.

EVERYBODY NEEDS THE BENEFIT.

FIXING THE ANTIQUATED WATER SYSTEM IN ST. LOUIS BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

REPAVING ALL THE ROADS BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

WHEN.. EMPOWER NEIGHBORHOODS, LET'S EMPOWER AREAS, HAVING GOOD ROADS AND WORKING WATER SYSTEM EMPOWERS EVERYBODY.

WHEN IT COMES TO A FAIRNESS FACTOR, EVERYBODY IS GETTING WATER MAIN BREAKS, NORTH SIDE, SOUTH SIDE, YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHERE THE STREETS BLOCKED OFF.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS MONEY WHEN SAID THIS SYSTEM NEEDS TO ALMOST BE REPLACED.

HERE IS A CHANCE TO USE A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY TO DO THAT.

WHILE IT'S NOT STATE CAPITOLSY, FIXING A BUNCH OF WATER MAINS AND PAVING A BUNCH OF STREETS, I BELIEVE IT HELPS THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE MOST AREAS.

>> DOESN'T IT ALL GO BACK TO WHEN THE RAMS CAME AND THE BUILDING WAS BUILT TO GET THEM TO COME.

PAYING FOR THE BUILD..

REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE ENTERPRISE.

IT WASN'T .. FOOTING THE BILL FOR THAT DOME.

IT WAS ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

ST. LOUIS COUNTY GOT A CUT, BUT IT'S ALSO THE TAXPAYERS SO FRANKLIN COUNTY EXECUTIVE FEELS LIKE HE'S GOT A STAKE IN THIS GAME.

OUTLYING COUNTIES, EVEN COUNTIES IN ILLINOIS, THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THEM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE WATER MAINS IN ST. LOUIS BENEFIT ST. LOUIS COUNTY, ILLINOIS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY, MISSOURI OR ST. CHARLES.

>> I THINK IT DOES ANY TIME THEY COME TO SEE ST. LOUIS AND COME FOR EVENTS.

I THINK IT CERTAINLY BENEFITS IT THAT WAY.

>>..

THE COUNTY AND THE CITY SUED THE RAMS, SO THEY GET THE LARGEST.

>> THAT'S TRUE, BUT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS REALLY WASN'T AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT.

IT WAS THE ATTORNEYS.

THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY IN THE GAME.

>> WHEN THIS ALL BEGAN, AND THEY WERE GOING TO SUE, ALL THE ADJOINING COUNTIES COULD HAVE JOINED THE LAWSUIT, AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO.

>> THAT'S A DECISION.

THERE'S A POINT TO BE MADE FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE YOU KEEP THE COUNTY'S CUT WHICH WAS 200 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

>> 169, BUT WHO'S COUNTING.

>> IT'S GETTING UP THERE WITH THE INTEREST.

>> KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER AN.. SOMETHING MAGNIFICENT FOR THE ST. LOUIS REGION.

>> THE PEOPLE WHO ARE POLLED ALSO WANTED THAT MONEY TO GO TO EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHO ARE UNDERPAID.

HOW DO YOU THEN NOT INCLUDE THEM IN THE LUMP SUM?

ALVIN, LET'S MOVE TO HAZELWOOD WHERE A RESIDENT WHO WAS CONVICTED 20 YEARS AGO FOR A SEX CRIME HAS BEEN FORCED IN RECENT YEARS TO PUT UP A SIGN ON HALLOWEEN THAT HE IS NOT GIVING OUT ANY TREATS OR CANDIES AT HIS RESIDENCE AND TURN OFF THE OUTDOOR LIGHTS AND STAY INSIDE, NOT PARTICIPATE.

CAN'T HAND OUT ANY CANDY.

THAT IS THE LAW IN MISSOURI FOR SEX OFFENDERS.

THIS GUY SUED AND JOHN ROSS, FEDERAL JUDGE, AGREES WITH HIM.

THE SIGN NO CANDY OR TREATS AT THIS RESIDENCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

DO YOU AGR..

I AGREED WITH THAT TOTALLY.

NO MATTER HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE.

COMMITTED A GUN CRIME.

LET'S START LABELING IT ALL, SO WE CAN SEE WHERE EVERYBODY IS.

YEARS AGO I SAID IF YOU HAD EVERYBODY'S HOUSE LIT UP LIKE GREEN AND HAD MARIJUANA IN THE HOUSE, WE WOULD HAVE PASSED THAT LAW 20 YEARS AGO.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE PICKED A CRIME THAT IS HEINOUS.

I GET IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND SAY YOU HAVE TO PUT A SIGN UP AND THE GUY THAT MURDERED SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO.

>> HOPEFULLY HE'S NOT OUT.

>> HE MIGHT BE OUT IN TWO YEARS.

PEOPLE MURDER PEOPLE AND BE OUT IN TWO TO FIVE.

YOU DON'T KNOW THEM.

>> MAYBE NOT W TWO TO FIVE.

BUT THIS ISN'T A SCARLET LETTER.

THIS IS CHILD SEX PREDATORS.

I KNOW THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF HEINOUS CRIMES, BUT YOU CAN'T THINK OF ONE MORE HEINOUS THAN THIS PROBABLY.

>> THAT'S WHERE I'.. SITUATION.

I AG.. STRIKE ME AS BEING POSSIBLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

ON THE OTH..

LOSING ANY SLEEP OVER IT IF THEY DO HAVE TO PUT UP THE SIGNS.

I WOULD HOPE THAT PARENTS WOULD TELL PEOPLE IF YOU GO SEE A HOUSE -- ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT POLICE ARE SUPPOSED TO MONITOR THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE OUT CANDY AND NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR LIGHTS ON.

THIS ONLY HAS TO DO WITH THE SIGN.

GOING IF YOU SEE A HOUSE -- LIKE THEY DID WHEN I WAS A KID.

IF THE HOUSE WASN'T ON THERE, MAYBE THEY WERE CRAPPY PEOPLE.

BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR.

>>.. >> I WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS.

THAT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE IT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF IT'S KEEPING KIDS SAFE, I DON'T HAVE THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM.

>> I THINK PARENTS NEED TO DO, SIGN OR NOT, THEIR DUE DILIGENCE FOR CHILDREN.

SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT, AND THERE ARE NATIONAL AND STATE SEX OFFENDER REGISTRIES AND YOU CAN LOOK AND PINPOINT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BRUSHED UP ON WHO MIGHT BE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW BEFORE KIDS HEAD OUT ON THE STREETS, MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>>.. ABOUT THE GIRL SCOUTS SELLING COOKIES.

WHERE IS.. FOR THAT MATTER SOMETIMES KIDS GO DOOR TO DOOR SELLING GIFT WRAP.

REALLY MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

>> THE ISSUE IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING TO APPEAL.

>> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING TO APPEAL THE DECISION BY THE FEDERAL COURT.

>> THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO.

A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HANDING OUT $37 MILLION INTENDED TO REVITALIZE NORTH ST. LOUIS.

AT THAT TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME POLITICALLY CONNECTED INDIVIDUALS WERE GETTING THE MONEY.

ONE GUY WHO DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY.

SEEMS LIKE THERE WERE SOME VACANT LOTS OVER RUN BY WEEDS BY NONOPERATING PHONE NUMBERS AND ALSO GETTING LOTS OF MONEY.

THIS TIME AROUND YOU REPORTED THOSE WHO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS AND LOST GOT A COLS LEGOS PRIZE OF $12,500.

>> EVERYBODY, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DENIED THE GRANTS.

>> EVEN IF THEY WERE DENIED FOR GOOD REASON, LIKE THEY DIDN'T EXIST, THEY STILL GOT THE MONEY AND I'M STARTING TO THINK FORGET THIS.

THE CI.. MEANS FOR DOLING OUT $37 MILLION.

HOW .. MAINS AND PAVING STREETS.

>> THE MISSOURI STATE AUDITOR IS NOW REVIEWING THIS.

IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL AUDIT.

IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION.

IT'S A R.. A STATE REP IN ST. LOUIS NAMED STEVE BUTTS, HE WENT TO THE AUTO TOSSER OFFICE.

AND HE SAID HE HAD A WHISTLEBLOWER.

HE SAID .. WHISTLES BUT WE WANT TO THE OFFICE AND SAID DID YOU SEE WHAT'S ON THE NEWS ABOUT THIS GRANT PROGRAM?

$17 MILLION, AND SOME OF IT COMES BACK TO ADDRESSES THAT I HAVE BEEN TO THE ADDRESSES.

THEY ARE LOCKED UP BUILDINGS WHERE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY HAS BEEN FOR QUITE A WHILE.

TAXES.

>> LEGITIMATE ENTERPRISES LIKE A MAN WHO OWNS A BOXING GYM THAT ACTIVELY WENT TOWARDS YOUNG PEOPLE AND WANTS TO EXPAND TO DO SOCCER AND CHESS AND BASEBALL.

BRING YOUTH BASEBALL BACK TO THE CORE OF THE CITY.

HE GOT DENIED.

HE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING.

I THINK THERE IS A BIG CRY FOR SOME OTHER ENTITY TO EITHER TAKE THIS OVER OR GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND START OVER.

>> IT SORT OF REMINDS ME OF THE SITUATION WITH ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AT.. HORRIBLY MISMANAGED.

WE ARE NEGOTIA.. PEOPLE, SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE.

WE ARE GOING TO GIVE $37 MILLION AWAY, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING.

WHO ARE POLITICALLY CONNECTED.

BIG SURPRISE THERE.

THEN IT COMES DOWN TO YOU SEND IN A GRANT.

YOU DIDN'T QUALIFY.

YOUR EFFORT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

BUT HERE IS $12,500 WHICH SOUNDS TO ME A BIT LIKE HUSH MONEY.

HERE IS $1,500.

QUIT COMPLAINING.

YOUR POINT ABOUT GO BACK TO SQUARE 1 AND START OVER.

TO ME, IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY LOGICAL POSITION TO HAVE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

AN..

POLITICAL CORRUPTION IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN DANVILLE, ILLINOIS.

IT W..

TESTING AND WHO WAS GOING TO BE FIRED.

-- I MEAN HIRED AS FIREFIGHTERS, AND THE CITY DECIDED TO JUST DO IT OVER AGAIN.

I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED.

THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN HERE.

NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO DO IT OVER AGAIN, EVERYBODY WHO APPLIES, APPLICATION WILL BE ONLINE, AND YOU CAN READ IT.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

TRANSPARENCY.

>>.. ALSO PRODUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GETTING MONEY.

REDUCE IT TO 25.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TOP 25, AND IF YOU ARE 26, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN ARGUMENT.

IF YOU ARE 100 AND HAVE A VACANT LOT, YOU AIN'T GOT NO ARGUMENT.

>> THAT SHOULD BE QUALIFYING OUT OF THE GAME.

>> WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA.

WE HAD AN ONLINE HIRED CONSULTANT TO DO IT TO HAVE AN ONLINE VOTE ON HOW TO SPEND THE RAMS MONEY.

THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME UP .. WATER MAINS AND RAISES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

WHY NOT .. ALL IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.

>> IT'S ANOTHER POLL THAT COULD BE NORTH.

>> YOU WOULD THINK IF IT GETS TO THAT STAGE, ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE VETTED.

>> I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN POLLED A MILLION DOLLARS IN ST. LOUIS.

POTHOLES ARE AN ISSUE, SECURITY, SCHOOLS.

TH.. ALVIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SKI MASKS, PAM BOYD FLOATED AN IDEA LAST WEEK AND RETRACTED IT.

IT SAID IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, LIKE PHILADELPHIA, WHICH PASSED THIS LAST DECEMBER, YOU CAN'T WEAR A SKI MASK IF YOU'RE THREATENING SOMEONE OR COMMITTING A CRIME.

THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CRIME.

BUT ALSO YOU CAN'T WEAR A SKI MASK INSIDE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, A SCHOOL BUILDING OR PUBLIC PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THOSE IN CHARGE.

>> OKAY.

.. GOT A LITTLE PROBLEM HERE.

IF I OWN A BUSINESS AND SAID YOU CANNOT COME IN HERE WITH A FULL SKI MASK, NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE KIND OF THING.

I GET THAT.

BUT I'M ALVIN THE LIBERTARIAN HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T WEAR WHEN THEY ARE IN PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

YEAH, IT'S MENACING.

I GET IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU JUST CAN'T GO THERE.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE I AGREE WITH ALVIN.

I THINK THE PART ON THE PUBLIC STREET IS THE PROBLEM.

IN A SCHOOL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

SCHOOLS CAN SET DRESS CODES.

KIDS IN SCHOOL SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.

WHEN THE NEXT SHOOTING HAPPENS IN A SCHOOL, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GO WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THIS?

THERE THAT ARE LEGAL LIMITS.

AS FAR AS BEING OUT IN PUBLIC WITH A SKI MASK ON.

>> IT'S IN A PUBLIC BUILDING OR SCHOOL OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

>> PUBLIC BUILDING, NO.

>> I HAVE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> SCHOOLS I DON'T HAVE.. WITH.

..

WEARING SKI MASKS IN THE MONTH OF JULY IN A RESTAURANT.

>> I WENT IN THERE ASKING A QUESTION FOR MY JOB AT CHANNEL 2.

ABOUT.

BUT IT WAS..

I COULD TELL THE RESTAURANT OWNER WAS INTIMIDATED.

IT WAS OR 4 OR 5 YOUNG MEN.

ALL YOU COULD SEE WAS THE EYES.

HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KICK HIM OUT BUT IT WASN'T ABOUT TO.

>> A PRIVATE BUSINESS, NO MASKS, NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO PROBLEM.

SAME IDEA.

7-ELEVEN DID IT IT A.. HALLOWEEN.

IT'S..

PRIVATE BUSINESSES, I BELIEVE, HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

WHETHER THEY ADHERE TO IT IS ANOTHER THING.

IF I WAS AN OWNER AND SAW IT SITTING AT MY TABLE AS WELL, I WOULD BE SCARED?

IF THE CRIME OCCURS THE PERSON CAN'T BE IDENTIFIED.

>> I THINK THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH IT.

BUT PAM .. MORE SENSE THAN THE PROTEST AGAINST IT.

>> LET'S JUST SAY I WORK IN A 7-ELEVEN AND IT'S 1:00 IN THE MORNING, AND SOMEBODY WALKS IN THERE WITH A SKI MASK ON, AND THEY ARE COMING DIRECTLY AT ME AT A FAST PACE, AND I LET THEM HAVE ABOUT 6 OF THEM.

I WOULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH IT.

NOT GET .. WOULD SAY YOU WERE SCARED, AND I WOULD SAY I WAS HORRIFIED, AND I PROTECTED MYSELF.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY, BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS, MAYBE FOOLS WILL STOP WEARING SKI MASKS.

>> IT'S COLD OUTSIDE.

WE WILL TAKE IT OFF WHEN YOU GET INSIDE.

>> JOE, .. ANOTHER TOPIC.

MEGAN GREEN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE ST. LOUIS BOARD OF ALDERMEN.

UNTIL LAST SPRING SHEAFS ADJUNCT OR PART-TIME PROFESSOR IN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY.

SHE TAUGHT ON WRITING LEGISLATION.

THEN SHE GOT I.. SPRING PROTEST ON CAMPUS WHERE TENTS WERE ERECTED.

THERE WERE PROTESTS AGAINST BOEING.

SHE'S ACCUSED OF LETTING SOME OF THE STUDENTS OR THE PROTESTERS INSIDE A BUILDING WITH HER ENTRY CARD.

SINCE TH.. NOW SHE'S NO LONGER TEACHING AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN THE BROWN SCHOOL.

THE SCHOOL SAY.. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE TEACHING OUR CLASSES.

..

THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, BUT HE'S AN ADJUNCT LAW PROFESSOR IN THE SCHOOL'S LAW DEPARTMENT.

IF WE WANT UNIVERSITIES TO BE AN EXCHANGE OF IDEAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET IN THE INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.

.. MEGAN GREEN?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE THAT UNIVERSITIES SHOULD BE A PLACE, A MELTING POT OF IDEAS.

AND I THINK THAT HAPPENS IN CLASSROOMS ALL THE TIME.

I THINK ALL KINDS OF IDEA, EVEN WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, WAY BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, AND WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, IDEAS WERE EXCHANGED.

THIS.. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN SAYING THE UNIVERSITIES SAY YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS IN A CLASSROOM.

I HA.. CASE.

AFTER THE PROTEST, WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY WAS CRITICIZED FOR THEIR REACTION TO IT.

I BELIEVE THAT MEGAN GREEN WAS WELL WITHIN HER RIGHTS TO GO TO THAT PROTEST, TO STATE HER POSITIONS, AND AFTERWARDS WHEN SHE WAS INTERVIEWED ABOUT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY'S REACTIONS COULD SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTED ABOUT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY AND FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS THAT.

I ALSO BELIEVE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY HAS A RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TEACHING THERE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CONFLICT IS HERE.

>> I AGREE.

THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL, BUT THERE IS ONE THING THAT REALLY SPILLS IT OVER.

IF SHE INDEED GETS ACCESS, YOU'RE FIRED.

LOOK.

THAT.. WITH ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE PUT OTHER PEOPLE IN DANGER, DEFINITELY PUT PROPERTY IN DANGER, YOU ARE OUT.

THAT WHOLE ARGUMENT ENDS IN HER DEFENSE WHEN SHE DID THAT.

BUT I'M WITH YOU, ALSO THAT, LOOK.

TO, BUT IF I WAS PROFESSOR, AND I FOR SOME REASON, WE HAD SOME TYPE OF RACIAL INCIDENT LIKE THAT, AND I WAS JUST OUT THERE JUST GOING BERSERK ON WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY AND USING TERMS THEY ARE MURDERERS AND THIS AND THAT, AND THEY SAY HEY, THAT'S ALL GOOD, BUT YOU DON'T TEACH HERE ANYMORE.

..

I MADE THE SACRIFICE.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE VIGOROUS EXCHANGE OF IDEAS?

>> WHERE IS IT BEING STOPPED, VIGOROUS CHANGE OF IDEAS?

>> SHE WAS ON CAMPUS PROTESTING.

>> FORGET FOR A MOMENT WHETHER OR NOT SHE LET PROTESTERS IN THE BUILDING.

IF SHE WAS GIVEN THE HEE HO BECAUSE SHE CRITICIZED THE UNIVERSITY I THINK THE UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT.

LET ME..

THERE WAS A TIME AT WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY WHEN ONE OF THE FATHERS WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL AND ALSO PRESIDENT AT NINE PBS, AND THE OTHER WAS BARRY AND HE WAS A PROFESSOR AT WASWASH-U.

THEY MET IN THE CAMPUS HALLS AND EXCHANGED IDEAS.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER WAY FOR WASH-U TO HANDLE THIS.

WE WILL HAVE MEGAN GREEN THERE AND SOMEONE FROM BOEING OVER THERE.

>>..

IT?

>> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HAD SHE NOT GONE ON TELEVISION AND TALKED ABOUT THE EVENTS OF THE DAY, HAD SHE NOT EXPRESSED HER OPINION ON THE AIR FOR ALL TO SEE WHO THOSE WHO WEREN'T ON PREMISE OF THE THING.

.. MEGAN GREEN IN MANY CASES.

IF SHE HAD NOT PROTESTED, SHE WOULD HAVE HER JOB, AND I THINK FIRING HER AS A CHILLING EFFECT ON SPEECH AT WASH-U.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE PROTEST.

RANDI SAID IT.

SHE WENT AND CRITICIZED THE EMPLOYER AND ST. LOUIS POLICE ABOUT BEING HEAVY HANDED.

I THINK WE ALL OWE JOE 5 BUCKS APIECE FOR GETTING THE WORD MILANGE OUT THERE.

THERE'S THAT POINT, AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT OF THE CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT WAS GOING ON ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WE HAD CAMPUS PROTESTERS TAKING OVER CAMPUSES AND REALLY TURNING THEM INTO EYESORES WITH HUMAN WASTE, GRAFFITI EVERYWHERE.

THEY WOULDN'T LEAVE.

AND OTHER CAMPUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY STARTED MOVING IN.

WE STARTED WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY TOOK OVER A BUILDING.

YOU ..

GOING ON.

AND WASH-U WAS WE DON'T WANT THIS.

YOU WORK FOR US.

DON'T GO OUT THERE AND FAN THE FLAMES.

..

IT WASN'T REALLY ABOUT BOEING.

IT WAS PRO PALESTINIAN.

YOU HAD A GIANT SEGMENT OF YOUNG JEWISH STUDENTS ACROSS THE YOU BEES UNITED STATES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY WHO WERE VERY THREATENED AND VERY AFRAID ABOUT WALKING TO THE CLASSROOMS.

>> YOU'RE NOT BUYING THE EXCUSE THAT SHE WAS FIRED BECAUSE OF GETTING RID OF ALL PROFESSORS WHO WERE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> SPEAKING OF FREE SPEECH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF WILL I WILL RNTION HIS NAME IS ALEXI GIANNOULIAS WHO HAS BANNED 5 LICENSE PLACED BECAUSE THEY HAD OCTOBER 7th ON THEM BECAUSE HE FINDS THEY ARE HATEFUL.

>> YOU CAN APP.. SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE SAYING I WANT A PERSONALIZED LICENSE PLATE WHETHER IT'S I LOVE CATS, I LOVE MOM, HATE TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN OBJECTIVES YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IN EVERY STATE, INCLUDING HERE IN MISSOURI, IF THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE PEOPLE CHOOSING THESE LICENSE PLATES FINDS IT OBJECTIONABLE IN NAY WAY, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DECLINE YOUR APPLICATION.

YOU KNOW, IS IT SUBJECTIVE TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE ONLY, OR IS IT SUBJECTIVE TO THE COMMITTEE THAT IS ON THE LICENSE PLATE COMMITTEE?

APPARENTLY THEY GOT TOGETHER.

I HAVE SEEN LICENSE PLATES WITH PEOPLE COMMEMORATING 9/11.

WHY IS THAT DIFFERENT?

IF THERE'S A JEWISH PERSON WHO'S DRIVING WITH OCTOBER 7th ON THEIR LICENSE PLAT PLATE OVER A YEAR AGO.

>> ON MONDAY.. CELEBRATED HER BIRTHDAY, OCTOBER 7th.

AND I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE IN THE STRAIGHT OF ILLINOIS THAT HAS A LICENSE PLATE THAT COMMEMORATES THEIR BIRTHDAY.

WHAT ARE.. THAT?

>> I KNOW SOME.. BIRTHDAY IS NOVEMBER 5th AND THEY CELEBRATED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO CONFLICT WITH THE ELECTION THIS YEAR.

>> NONE OF THE PANELISTS DO RACIAL STEREOTYPING WHEN THEY SUGGESTED REPARATION DOLLAR TO FIX UP THEIR HOUSES.

THERE ARE AFRICAN-AMERICANS LIVING IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

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