>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> WELCOME BACK TO "DONNYBROOK".

HAPPY HALLOWEEN.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.

WENDY WIESE WHO FOR THE LAST TIME WILL BE INTRODUCED AS PART OF THE BIG 550 KTRS.

SHE'S RETIRING AND ONE OF OUR TOPICS THIS WEEK.

SERIOUS JOURNALIST BILL MCCLELLAN.

HE'S WITH THE POST DISPATCH.

AND SARAH FENSKE AT STL MAG.COM AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN EDITOR AND SPORTS COLUMNIST ALVIN REID.

OKAY.

LET'S START WITH YOU, SARAH.

LYLE CARSONBY, THE CEO OF EMERSON EXHORTED ST. LOUIS LEADERS TO KIND OF GET OFF THE COUCH AND GET MOVING.

HE WANTS CIVIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO ENHANCE AND PUSH THIS COMMUNITY ALONG.

HE SAID EMERSON, FORTUNE 500 COMPANY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TO ANY NUMBER OF CITIES BUT HIS DAUGHTER ENCOURAGED HIM TO STAY IN ST. LOUIS AND HIS DATA SUPPORTED THAT.

HE WANTS OTHER BUSINESS LEADERS TO GET INVOLVED BUT AREN'T BUSINESS LEADERS ALREADY INVOLVED IN ST. LOUIS INC. AND TAYLOR MONEY AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE FIXING THE ARCH GROUNDS, BALLPARK VILLAGE, UNION STATION.

THE LI.. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING A LOT IN THIS TIME.

>> YEAH.

I .. MORE, AND WE AS BUSINESS LEADERS SHOULD DO MORE.

IT MADE ME KIND OF ADMIRE THE GUY WHEN HE CALLED ON BUSINESS LEADERS TO DO MORE.

AFTER THAT HE ENDED UP HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS WITH CHIEF TRACY ROLLING UP HIS SLEEVES AND WORKING ON INITIATIVES THAT HE CARES ABOUT.

I THINK YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY CITIZENS WILLING TO PITCH IN.

INTERVIEW, NICE TO READ HE FELT THEY MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE BY STAYING RATHER THAN HEY WE ARE DONE.

&g.. CIVIC PROGRESS DAYS, DAYS WHEN THE COMPANIES WERE OWNED IN ST. LOUIS BEFORE WE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY BECAME BRANCH OFFICE TOWNS.

THERE WAS SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I REMEMBER WITH BOSTON PUR..

SAVED THE BLUES.

THEY WERE ABOUT TO LEAVE.

ANY BUSINESSMAN THAT WANTS TO STEP FORWARD AND SAYS LET'S DO MORE, IT'S A GREAT THING.

>> YOU ACTUALLY STOLE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE 1977 ALVIN, WHO IS WITH US TONIGHT TOLD MEMBERS THAT THE DOWNTOWN THAT I GREW UP IN WAS BUS WILLING AND ALL OF THAT, AND PART OF IT WAS AN ENTITY THAT I COULDN'T STAND, WHICH WAS CIVIC PROGRESS.

>> I NEV.. >> YOU AND RAY HARTMANN.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT I LOOKED AT IT LIKE OKAY, IT'S THE '70s.

COMING OUT OF THE '60s.

POWERFUL RICH WHITE GUYS STANDING IN THE WAY OF MY PROGRESS AS A PERSON.

BUT I WAS IGNORING THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DOING GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

THAT'S NEEDED.

I THINK THAT IT IS STILL POSSIBLE FOR CEOS OF COMPANIES, REGARDLESS OR WHAT NOT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GREW GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., BUT FIVE, 10 YOU ALL GET TOGETHER AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

>> THE ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE NOW IS THE BREWERY.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> THE B..

MOTHER.

EVERYBODY WAS NESTLING UP TO THE BREWERY.

>..

WHETHER IT'S ROBERT AND STEVE OR THE LAKE MICHAEL NIDOR OR BOB CLARK.

>> THEY ..

THE BREWERY THOUGH.

>> DO YOU THINK -- AND I DO.

DO YOU THINK GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., DO YOU THINK THIS THAT YOU GOT FROM THE RAMS, IF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE SAID WE ARE GOING TO MAKE DOWNTOWN SECURE IN SIX MONTHS, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, AND ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T GET WITH THIS, A, WON'T BE WELCOMED HERE OR WON'T GET ELECTED.

>> I THINK IT IS A DIFFERENT WORLD.

CIVIC PROGRESS DID.. DEAL WITH ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.

IT I..

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SURVIVED, SOME OF THEM, IF THEY DIDN'T PLAY BALL.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE -- I THINK IF YOU ARE A CIVIC LEADER IN 2024 IN ST. LOUIS, I'M SURE ONCE UPON A TIME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HEY, WHO DOES THIS YOUNG EMERSON UP START THINK HE IS?

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE.

>> HERE IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, AND THAT IS JEFF CITY.

WHEN WE BELT THE STADIUM WE HAD JOHN ASHCROFT BEHIND US.

THIS YEAR IN PENNSYLVANIA A $700 MILLION PLAN TO REFURBISH DOWNTOWN PITTSBURGH WAS ANNOUNCED AND THE GOVERNOR THERE, JOSH SHAPIRO SAID WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES, UNIONS, ARTISTS, AND THEY NAMED EVERYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE ON BOARD FOR THIS.

SHOVEL READY PROJECTS GOING TO BE DONE BY 2028.

THAT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TODAY WITHOUT JEFF CITY?

WOULD JEFF CITY THROW IN $100 MILLION?

I DON'T ..

I THINK IF OUR TOP BUSINESS OWNERS AND OPERATORS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE CEOS OF THE ENTIRE COMPANY.

BUT IF THEY WENT THERE AND SAID LOOK, SERIOUSLY, AND JSL INC.

ENDORSED KEYHOLE OVER THE MULTITUDE HE WAS RUNNING AGAINST, GO TALK TO HIM.

YOU WANT TO BE GOVERNOR?

>> SPEAKING OF WHICH, WHAT DO YOU THINK, ALVIN, OF RICHARD LEADERS RICHARD CHAVITZ, HE'S BEEN VERY GENIUS TO THE UNIVERSITY, ALONG WITH THE HOFFMANN FAMILY FROM REAL ESTATE, AND JAYSON TATUM, GOLD MEDICAL WING BASKETBALL PRO WITH THE WORLD CHAMPION BOSTON CELTICS, THEY ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE WNBA TO ST. LOUIS.

BU.. TO BE DONE WITHOUT PUBLIC MONEY.

DO YOU THINK PUBLIC MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON THAT?

>> I PICK AND CHOOSE, AND WHILE I SUPPORT KANSAS CITY KIND OF ON THE WORLD CUP, I DON'T KNOW -- PUT IT THIS WAY.

IF WE LANDED A WNBA FRANCHISE AND THEY NEEDED UPGRADES, ALTHOUGH THEY WOULD PLAY THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY ANY MONEY IS NEEDED OTHER THAN TO BRIBE THE DECISION.

BUT THE PROBLEM HERE IS ONCE AGAIN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STATE PATRICK MAHOMES HAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE'S THE ONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WNBA THERE, AND RIGHT NOW KANSAS CITY IS PACKING A BIGGER PUNCH THAN WE ARE, AND LOOK.

I LOVE JAYSON TATUM AND I LOVE THAT HE LOVES ST. LOUIS, BUT RIGHT NOW PATRICK MAHOMES IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS GOING IN THE NATION.

>> I THINK TATUM IS JUST ..

IN HIS RESPECTIVE ARENA.

WE ARE DEALING WITH THE WNBA HERE WHERE 60% OF THAT LEAGUE IS OWNED BY THE NBA.

THEY HAVE EVERY REASON TO MAKE JAYSON TATUM HAPPY.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND KANSAS .. HAS BEEN GETTING BETTER PRESS THAN ST. LOUIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S DESERVED.

THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS.

THEY HAVE CRIMES THERE THAT DON'T COMPARE FAIRABLY WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ST. LOUIS.

I THINK IF PEOPLE LOOK CLOSELY AT THESE.

>> I THINK IT'S SORT OF LIKE A TEETER TOTTER HERE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, IT WAS VERY MUCH OH, KANSAS CITY.

SERIOUSLY LAUGHED AT THEM.

>> I STILL FEEL THAT WAY.

>> WHEN YOU GO OVER THERE, YOU DON'T FEEL THAT WAY FOR LONG, BECAUSE THEY BUILT OUT FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEY HAVE DONE IT IN A VERY MEASURED BRILLIANT WAY, AND THIS IS THEIR TIME TO BE UP IN THE AIR.

&g.. POINT.

THEY DECIDED WE ..

THIS AIRPORT.

THE MAYOR SAID I'M RUNNING ON REELECTION ON DOING THE AIRPORT.

HE WON REELECTION, AND THEY ARE FINISHED WITH THE AIRPORT, AND IT'S STILL WAY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

>> IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

>> IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND IT'S DONE, AND IT TOOK THEM THREE YEARS.

>>.. WE ARE IN THE WORKS OF DOING THE SAME THING.

WE ARE GOING TO FI.. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SINGLE AIRPORT, MOVING FORWARD, GOTTEN ALL THE SIGN-OFFS AND SOMETIMES WE FORGET IF WE LOOKED AT OURSELVES THE WAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE LOOK AT KANSAS CITY, WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING OKAY BY MANY OF THE SAME METRICS.

>> IT TOOK US 10 YEARS TO DO SOMETHING.

IT TOOK .. SHOVEL READY.

LET'S DO IT.

PICK ONE PROJECT AT A TIME AND GET IT DONE.

>> I WILL SAY ST. LOUIS HAS A FAR SUPERIOR AIRPORT IN TERMS OF NONSTOPS.

AND .. KANSAS CITY HAS 35 OR SO.

LAST COUNT.

ANOTHER TO..

TURNS OUT NEW YORK TIMES TOOK A LOOK AT REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PUTTING THESE MESSAGES, PROJECTING LIGHTED MESSAGES ON THE SIDE OF WATER TOWERS.

AND THE NEW YORK TIMES LOOKED AT HANSON, MISSOURI, BUT IT HAPPENED IN ST. LOUIS IN ARNOLD AND IN O'FALLON.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT SOME GUYS SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP PROJECTING WITH LIGHT TRUMP VANCE ON THE SIDE OF A PUBLIC WATER TOWER?

>> I THINK THE PUBLIC OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE GUY, CHARGE THE CAMPAIGN.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT CRIMINALIZING IT AND SAYING WE ARE GOING TO ARREST THE GUY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO USE OUR WATER TOWER TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE, FINE, BUT HERE'S OUR FEE.

>> BUT MY FEES IN TAXES PAYS FOR THE WATER TOWER, I DON'T WANT ANY MESSAGE UP THERE, REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, GO CHIEFS.

NO, IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY.

>> THE ONLY ONE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, ALVIN, YOU GO DOWN 44 WHEN YOU HIT BOURBON, AND THERE'S A WATER TOWER THAT SAYS BOURBON.

I WOULDN'T W.. A POLITICAL THING.

A NORMAL WATER TOWER, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PAY TO PROJECT A MESSAGE.

>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROJECTING A MESSAGE ON THE SIDE OF A WATER TOWER AND STANDING ON THE TAM AVENUE OVERPASS ON 6440 WITH A SIGN.

YOU ARE BASICALLY INTERRUPTING SOMEBODY'S VIEW.

IN THE CASE WITH REGARD TO PROJECTING THE IMAGE.

THINK ABOUT IT, YOU ARE NOT TEARING DOWN A TREE TO CREATE A SIGN.

.. WITH THE SIGN WHEN THE ELECTION IS OVER.

YOU'RE ONLY DOING IT AT NIGHT, NOT DURING THE DAY.

>> HOW ABOUT ALVIN'S POINT, THIS IS A TAXPAYER.

>> SO IS THE TAM AVENUE OVERPASS.

>> WE .. CAMP OUT AT THE TAMP AVENUE OVERPASS.

NEXT GROUP COMES UP ..

TOTALLY DIFFERENT MESSAGE AND THEY TELL THEM TO MOVE ALONG.

>> CAN I MOW HARRIS ON THE CITY LAWN IN KIRKWOOD?

THAT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY.

>> THAT'S PHYSICALLY CALT ERRING ALTERING IT.

>> USING PUBLIC PROPERTY.

IF THE CITY WANTS TO RAISE SOME MONEY.

>>.. DEMOCRATIC HOT BEDS, I'M PRETTY SURE.

IF THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT S.. UP AND SAID YOU CAN'T DO THIS, AND WE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR TRUMP, TOO, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT PAY TAXES THAT DON'T WANT IT USED FOR THAT REASON.

>> ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT LIVING IN THE PAST AND NOT USED TO THE FUTURE WHICH IS HERE NOW.

PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING IMAGES ALL OVER, ON THE SIDES OF CHURCHES, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT THROUGHOUT ST. LOUIS FOR CELEBRATION.

AND MISSOURI BOTANICAL GARDEN AT CHRISTMAS.

>&g.. DRIVE DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND THERE THERE WOULD BE A SIGN ON A BARN, AND THAT FARMER IS GETTING PAID FOR IT.

IF YOU WANT TO USE PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

>> CHRIS'S GRANDFATHER OWNED AN 850-ACRE DAIRY FARM IN WEBSTER COUNTY.

WHEN I MET HIM..

STILL HAD WE LIKE IKE ON THE SIDE OF IT.

SO YOU ARE RIGHT.

WE DO LIKE TO LIVE IN THE PAST, RIGHT?

MEMORY LANE IS OUR FAVORITE STREET.

>..

ADVANTAGE OF THE 20th CENTURY.

>> SARAH FENSKE, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT CARA SPENCER, WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION UNTIL SHE RESIGNED THIS WEEK.

ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS BEEN DOLING OUT FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT SOMETIMES TO POLITICALLY CONNECTED FAMILIES IN QUESTIONABLE WAYS AS WELL AS GRANTING DOLLARS TO VACANT LOTS AND PEOPLE WH AND AUSTIN WITH THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH SAYS SOME CHECKS WERE SENT OUT TO ADDRESSES THAT DON'T SEEM TO EXITION.

SHE HAS QUIT BECAUSE..

SINCE SHE WAS THERE WHEN ALL THE TROUBLE OCCURRED RNTIO, ARE HER HANDS REALLY CLEAN ON ALL OF THIS?

>> I DID ASK HER, ISN'T YOUR JOB, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, SHOULDN'T YOU STAY ON THIS BOARD SO THAT YOU CAN ADVOCATE FOR THINGS TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY AND BE THAT VOICE OF OPPOSITION THAT SHE HERSELF HAS SAID SHE FEELS LIKE IT'S LACKING.

SHE HAD AN ANSWER TO THIS WHERE SHE SAID SHE FEELS LIKE SHE GOT NO MORE INFORMATION THAN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD GET AS SHE WAS SERVING ON THE BOARD YET THEY EXPECTED HER TO SIGN OFF ON THINGS.

IT DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT.

SHE SAID SHE THOUGHT THE MOST ETHICAL THING SHE COULD DO WAS I CANNOT GIVE THIS MY BLESSING.

>> THE SECOND WORD WAS MAYORAL CANDIDATE.

I .. ABOUT.

POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITH THE MAYOR IF YOU ARE ON THE BOARD, BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAYS WELL, YOU ARE ON THE BOARD.

SECOND, IF SOMEBODY ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, RESIGNED RIGHT NOW AND BASICALLY SAID I JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE, WE WOULD SAY YOU WERE SITTING THERE WHEN THIS WOMAN WAS HIRED AND HIRED ALL HER FRIENDS AND CRONIES AND ALL OF THAT.

YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE THAT BEHIND BY SAYING I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.

I THINK THIS IS DRIVEN BY ..

FACT THAT SHE'S RUNNING FOR MAYOR.

THING.

I'M SURE SHE DOES, T..

THINK THIS IS FORGED IN MAYORAL.

>> I CAN'T ARGUE WITH WHAT ALVIN IS SAYING.

THE FACT SHE'S RUNNING FOR MATTER, AND YOU WOULD SEE IF SHE WERE TO STICK AROUND ON THE BOARD AND VOTE AGAINST THESE THINGS, THAT WOULD LEAD TO AN ATTACK AGAINST HER.

SHE'S THE ONE STOPPING THIS PROGRESS.

SHE VOTED AGAINST GRANTS FOR NORTH CITY BUSINESSES.

SHE'S KIND OF IN A CAN'T WIN SITUATION HERE.

>> I THINK SHE HAS TO LEAVE.

IF SHE'S GOING TO USE THIS AS A CAMPAIGN ISSUE, AND IT'S A GOOD ONE, SHE CAN'T VERY WELL BE ACCUSED SHE'S THE ONE STOPPING CRIME.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS.

I THINK THE TIMING THOUGH, REALLY IS EVERYTHING.

IF ALL OF THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AGO OR A MONTH AGO EVEN BEFORE THINGS STARTED HAVING BIG GIANT FIGHTS.

>> OH, YEA..

OKAY I'M NOT ON THE BOARD ANYMORE, WOULDN'T HAVE PAID IT ANY ATTENTION WHATSOEVER.

AND THE I'M MATTER IS IN MARCH.

>> IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE SEEING WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.

>> SARAH BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT SHE WILL BE ABLE TO BE REPLACED.

AND SHE SAID SHE'S T.. SHE'S THE CHAIRPERSON OF A CERTAIN COMMITTEE ON THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

IF SHE'S NOT THERE, WHO IS GOING TO BE THE LOYAL OPPOSITION OR BRING UP POINTS THAT SHE THINKS ARE COGENT?

>> THIS IS A COMPLICATED SITUATION.

HER LEAVING DO..

BUT IN SOME WAYS IT SOLVES HER PARTICULAR UNIQUE SET OF PROBLEMS.

BUT ONE ..

POINTED OUT IN HER LETTER OF RESIGNING, SHE THINKS IT'S A CONFLICT FOR NEIL RICHARDSON TO BE THE CEO AND THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.

SHE'S RIGHT IN THAT ..

NONPROFIT INSTRUCTOR YOU HAVE A CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD THAT'S SUPERVISOR THE DIRECTOR WHO'S DOING THE DAY TO DAY WORK.

OTIS WILLIAMS IS THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE SLDC.

AND HE SAID HE TALKED TO MAYOR JONES AND ADVISED HER AGAINST IT.

IT MIGHT.. WE ARE IN THE JAM WE'RE IN.

>> DIDN'T THE MEMBERS VOTE HIM INTO THAT SECOND?

>> THE MEMBERS ABSOLUTELY DID.

>> SHE COULD HAVE VOICED CONCERN AT THAT TIME.

>>.. COULD HAVE SPOKE UP, DIDN'T, AND NOW THE KEELS ARE TURNING.

>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF SOMEONE IN LYNN LINDENWOOD PARK WRITING NOTICES ON THE WINDSHIELDS OF CARS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPIRED TEMPORARY TAGS AND THE NOTES IN PRETTY BAD PENMANSHIP SAY SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVE TO GET PERMANENT LICENSE PLATES.

THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.

THE NOTE WAS ONE THING BUT THOSE CARS ENDED UP BEING VANDALIZED.

SOMEONE SLIT ALL FOUR TIRES ON THOSE VEHICLES AS REPORTED IN THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH AND ELSEWHERE.

I GUESS BECAUSE THER..

MANY CARS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED, DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SYMPATHY FOR THE VIGILANTE?

>> IS IT CRONG -- IS THIS PERSON, WHETHER IT'S A MALE OR FEMALE, DO THEY WEAR A CAPE?

DO THEY HAVE A HORSE OR SCOOTER.

HOW DO THEY DO IT?

IT IS BECOME ONE OF OUR FAVORITE SPORTS IN THIS CITY TO LOOK AT HEY, DO YOU SEE THAT TAG?

THAT'S FOUR YEARS OLD.

IT'S OUT OF CONTROL AND SO IS THERE A LITTLE TINY BIT OF SYMPATHY?

YEAH, THERE REAL..

I WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE MY TIRE PUNCTURED, AND I DO FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MR. VIGILANTE.

YOU CANNOT TAKE THINGS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS.

IT MUST FEEL REALLY GOOD, THOUGH.

>> AND I'M NOT ACCUSING.. OF ANYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN THE LOUDEST VOICE, CHARLIE OF CONDEMNING THESE PEOPLE, POINTING THEM OUT AND TAKING PICTURES OF THEM.

SO I HOPE YOU HAVE SOME SYMPATHY.

>..

THE VIGILANTE SHOULD NOT BE SLASHING TIRES.

I WAS SURPRISED THE POLICE SAID THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE VIGILANTE BUT NO MENTION IN ANY STORY THAT THEY WERE TICKETING OR FINING OR PUNISHING THE PEOPLE WHOSE LICENSE PLATES WERE NOT UP-TO-DATE.

>> I THINK THEY WERE PUNISHED ENOUGH IF THEIR FOUR TIRES WERE SLASHED.

>.. IS.

>> HOW DO YOU .. THAT SOUNDED LIKE A THREAT.

>> I'M GOING TO PERUSE AND SEE WHAT HASN'T PAID THE TAXES AND WALK IN AND STEAL, TEACH YOU A LESSON.

>> THE CRIME VICTIM ..

COPS, AND WE RAN SOME WARRANTS, AND NOW THEY ARE COMING UP TO YOU.

I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR THE VIGILANTE.

I TH.. HOW DO WE ALLOW OURSELVES TO GET SO WOUND UP BY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY INJURING UP THAT WE WOULD GO AROUND AND DESTROY SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO HAVE TRANSIT?

>> EXCUSES FOR NOT HAVING PLATES WERE PRETTY WOBBLY ONE SAID WELL, I WAS WAITING REPAIRS.

WH.. REGISTER YOUR CAR?

WHEN YOU ARE NOT REGISTERING YOUR CAR, IT MEANS YOU ARE NOT DRIVING WITH INSURANCE, THAT THE CAR HAD BEEN STOLEN AND CAN'T BE IDENTIFIED.

BUT YOU ARE NOT SPAYING YOUR TAXES WHICH WOULD FIX THE POTHOLES IN THE STREET.

THAT HAS GOT TO APPEAL TO ONE OF YOU.

YEARS AFTER 1977, ALVIN, 1987, ALVIN, PROBABLY NEEDED TO GET HIS BRAKES FIXED TO PASS INSPECTION SO HE COULD GET HIS BRAKES FIXED AND PASS THE INSPECTION, AND YES, THE TAG WAS PROBABLY EXPIRED.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT'S THE TRUTH.

>> IT DOES H..

THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KANASH, YOU HAVE BEEN BEEN WARNED.

>.. PUNCTURED MY TIRE AND I GUN THEM DOWN, IT'S LIKE.

>> HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

WE GOT THE TWO MINUTE WARNING, AND WE LEARNED WENDY WIESE AFTER 41 GREAT YEARS IN ST. LOUIS RADIO IS HANGING UP THE MICROPHONE TOMORROW.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR LAST BROADCAST ON KTRS THE BIG 550 IS TOMORROW BETWEEN 10:00 AND NOON.

SAY IT AIN'T SO.

>> IT IS SO.

I AM SO GRATEFUL TO MY FRIEND SARAH AND JAY SOB, AND YOU, CHARLIE, BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE, THERE, AND ALVIN FROM 1977 FOR KIND OF KEEPING THIS ON THE DOWNLOW FOR ME.

WE SORT OF GROW UP HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT THE TIME IS JUST RIGHT.

>> YOU'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS CAREER.

>> YOU'RE STAYING ON "DONNYBROOK", THOUGH.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL STILL BE ON "DONNYBROOK".

>> I HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT PROBABLY 20 TIMES SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE.

SHE IS STAYING.

I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

HE WAS HAPPY TO HELP YOU OUT THE TIMES THAT I DID.

YOUR LISTENERS WILL MISS YOU.

>> I WILL MISS THEM.

BUT THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GO, AND JO JILL FARMER WILL TAKE MY PLACE ON SON, LEAVING THE SHOW IN GOOD HANDS.

>> ANYTHING SPECIAL WE SHOULD NO ABOUT TOMORROW?

>> I HAVE NO IDEA.

FRANK HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING.

I SH..

THE DAY YOU WALKED IN THE STUDIO OR BOB COSTAS CALLED OR DAN DIERDORF TODAY.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL.

VERY, VERY GRATEFUL.

>> GODSPEED AND GLAD SHE IS STAYING WITH US.

WENDY WILL STILL BE ON "DONNYBROOK".

LET'S FI..

BAG AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S SHOW.

WOULDN'T IT IMPROVE NORTH CITY, PROVIDE A NEEDED GROCER TO THE AREA AND PROVIDE JOBS TO THE AREA?

THAT F.. PATTY SMITH OF KIRKWOOD WROTE THE PANELISTS COMING DISCUSS COMING UP WITH THE MONEY TO IMPRESS THE WORLD CUP ATTENDEES, AND YET WE CANNOT PROVIDE PROPER TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR ST. LOUIS SCHOOL CHILDREN?

YOU CAN WRITE US IN CARE OF PBS 63108.

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(315)912-9094 AND LISTEN TO US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST SOURCE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GINNING US, BUT BEFORE WE GO, A LITTLE TOAST TO 41 GREAT YEARS OF ST. LOUIS RADIO.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> OH, MY GOODNESS.

>> YUMMY.

>.. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

BE CAREF.. DRIVING HOME SOON.

>> OH, MY GOODNESS.

IT'S A GOOD THING THEY PUT APPLE CIDER.

&g.. >> I WILL SAY I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK IT IS, AND SARAH DOES, TOO, AND ALVIN, YOU DID A LOT OF RADIO BACK IN THE DAY WITH 40 SECONDS TO GO.

I THINK,.. FIND A BIG RELIEF WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER HAVING TO BE THE MONSTER.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU S.. NEVER FORGOT IT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GENERATE THATCH CONTENT.

>> MY FAVORITE STORY IS WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD A MEETING WITH BOB HIGHLAND, AND HE SAID YOU WON'T BE HERE THAT LONG.

>> SO MANY STORIES.

>> THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, WEN..

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

GOOD NIGHT, HAPPY HALL LIEN.

>> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION, AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.