I want to go with the bees.

Make the honey.

I want to swim when the water is fine.

I want to know when trees turn in the money.

And I'm a Bama.

Honey.

Anything she like was visiting Memphis with some buddies.

We were on the road playing some shows, and we visited the Stax Museum.

And it just like, took me.

I was like, oh man, I want to do this.

This is super cool.

And so we kind of tailored everything we were doing towards towards that type of music.

And then and then, you know, I'm a big Rolling Stones fan and, I've always loved how they may do different kinds of songs, but it's them doing R&B or them doing country, or them doing rock n roll.

And so I've kind of stemmed from that a little bit and kind of taken some of the countryside now, and I'm really leaning in into doing more of that.

So when they turned their chairs, it was, it was a relief.

That's what it honestly what it felt like.

It was like a okay, this wasn't all for nothing.

This is actually a really a is a good feeling, a little bit of validation from like some people who do this on a mega level professionally.

And I just want to do it professionally in any capacity that I can.

So that means a lot that that they would actually hear something that I did and puts their thing in of, so that when I had set out to start writing songs, which was in about 2011, 2012, I wanted to write the stuff that I have now then and didn't know how to do it.

And it was a lot of things that I had to experience and people had to write with and, you know, heartbreaks and things, you know, that just happen in life.

That kind of led me to to where I'm at now.

As far as what I'm writing.

But you know, Ray LaMontagne, Ryan Adams, Drew Holcomb and the neighbors, Gregory Allen.

Isaac.

I mean, these were the dudes that I was really heavy listening to, and I was probably in my most formidable music years, which was like 21, 22, 23 when I when I started the musical journey, it was no problem to go on the road for four days, you know, not know where I was going to sleep, not know what I was going to eat, you know, have no plan and just go, but nowadays, yeah, I got, I have two kids and a married and in our life is, we have to schedule it or it doesn't work.

You know what I mean?

So I have a son who's four years old.

His name is Jagger, which, obviously Mick Jagger is a huge, he's an influence of mine, too.

And, somebody who I've always looked up to as an artist.

And then my daughters.

Luna.

So, you know, we're we're on our toes with them.

Our life is totally different now than it was when I started this.

But but it gives me it gives me more of a purpose to do it the right way and to do it, to stick to my disciplines and kind of stay, you know, on the course, so to speak.

We played a show and it wasn't all the same group.

We played a show in, in Birmingham, and it was, and we played underneath this, it was like an Alabama power and a tower, above, like it was like a tower.

We players were playing underneath this power tower or whatever, and we were like the Alabama Power, you know, and we kind of ran that through a few times and then was like, Alabama fire sounds fire, dude, that sounds like a fire band name.

And then it was just it just stuck.

I was like, the Alabama fire.

And everybody I said it too was like, that's it, dude.

That's it.

And it goes.

It just goes really good with the music too.

So as far as the lyrics go, I like to think of the subject and build a universe around on that subject.

And it just, you know what I mean.

Instead of just trying to think of like just the most universal thing I can think of, just taken like, you know, this couch and then just writing about the leather and the lines and the leather and know how somebody was weaving that couch and the cow that it came from.

And, you know what I mean?

It just so typically that's kind of how, lyrically speaking, how I kind of get my ideas, but to kind of just start one, you know, sometimes it's just sitting there and something comes to you and you just roll with it.

Sometimes it's in the car when I'm driving from from Nashville to Mobile, you know, at 65, there's probably heard a few songs of mine and how they started.

There's something about sharing a personal experience that resonates universally with people.

And a it's not only what it is that you're maybe writing about, it's just the fact that you're talking about it and you're you're bringing it up.

They can, you know, when somebody connects with, it's because they're connecting with the vulnerability of it.

And if you're not vulnerable, if you're not, if you don't just spill, it doesn't really work.

You know what I mean?

Not as so I think it's I think it's important to, to get it out of you, but also to get it to the listener, you know, because, I mean, it's just what's the point of writing a song at all if nobody hears it?

So it's got to be heard.

So I'm from mobile generally, and I perform all along the Panhandle.

I come from Mississippi over to, to, you know, Florida kind of down the line, you know, and, and a little bit above sometimes Nashville.

I'm kind of sporadic about how I travel now.

You know, it's got to work out for the family.

If it doesn't work out for the family, unfortunately, it just doesn't work out for for me.

So what we've been doing is sim, working out.

It's hard nonetheless.

You know, because when I'm going for a show, it's.

I'm going all day, like, it's not, you know, you leave several hours before and you get home a couple hours or 2 or 3 hours after the show.

So I try to stay.

I try to stay, you know, at least an hour or two hours close to home, you know, I'll still go.

I'll still go far, you know, if it's if I need to do it, I will do it.

I like doing it too.

I couldn't do it full time for a long time and just finally got, you know, got to a point where, kind of was taken survey like to my, to my friends and my peers, you know, like, be honest with me.

Do you think this is something that I can do?

Well?

And they're like, yeah, definitely do it, you know, and, I feel it excites me to to feel like I'm doing the thing that I'm meant to be doing, you know?

I mean, not selling out red rocks, and I'm not, you know, playing all kind of these festivals and going all over the place.

And other than that, but, like, I'm doing what I love to do, and that excites, it excites me that I get to go do that.

Like, and people actually want to hear, you know, my, my tunes are like, that's wild to me.

I don't know, I'm just really thankful.

That's that's me.

I'm a family dude.

I love my family.

Like, it's why I get up and do what I get to do.

And.

And without them, it wouldn't even make sense.

You know what I mean?

If it didn't work for them, it wouldn't work for me.

You know, there's some hell, like, help me make it work.

You know, like, they're they're they're part of the reason it works, you know?

So, I don't know.

I guess that's really it.

They're the most important thing.

And and, besides music and.

God.

So.

The sky is black and the road is dark.

I you.