I just felt connected to it more.

And also, once I, I told my mom if she got me a guitar, I would no longer.

I would practice without her begging me to practice as well.

So it felt like something I was picking up and choosing.

Not to say I'm really glad that she started me on piano, because as a singer songwriter and a musician, I really like the piano and I and I want I'm not playing it today, but, it's something that I'm really glad that I have that foundation of.

it was just I connected with the strings and the having something against your chest.

I feel like it's something very, you know, close, obviously.

indie folk rock singer songwriter, leaning more to the acoustic side.

But with this next album, it's definitely more full band.

So I'd say somewhere in the indie folk rock area.

Adrian Lenker A Big Thief is, I think, one of the best songwriters of this time.

I really would love to be a contemporary of Hailey Hendrix.

I would love to go on tour with her one day.

She's a Portland, a songwriter and a resonate with her, you know, expression.

Alice.

Phoebe, Lou.

Based in Berlin.

Kate Bollinger and then kind of like the bigger names, obviously Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, I love, you know, brings back to contemporary Courtney Barnett.

It's always been a big influence on me.

So, yeah, I really value lyrics.

And I also just think kind of strange choices musically is fun.

So that's kind of what interests me.

And songwriters.

My fiancé, Jacob Palmer.

Who, by the time it airs, we will probably be married.

Which is very sweet.

I hadn't thought about that.

So right now he's playing, lead guitar.

And then we have two white, drums that catch him, bass and Zach Callahan on saxophone.

playing the band is very fun, you know, to have that musical connection with your friends, because all these people I'm friends with as well, and I think as a solo artist, I can maybe I can obviously be softer and it fits a certain listening room setting, but with a band, there's just so much more, energy and power behind it.

And also, it's not like I tell the drummer what to do or the basis what to do.

I might guide them, you know, if I hear something that I don't like or something that I do.

But it feels like this collaboration amongst musicians, and I get to make the foundation and the foundational expression that they get to add their expressions into.

when I first moved to Pensacola from Fort Walton Beach for life, I started going out to open late nights, and that's when I first started to feel really connected to a creative community and want to make something new each week.

And so I started writing songs, I would say in 2021 is when I started hosting my own open mic night.

And, for about a year, it was all covers, basically that would come through my open mic night, and then I just got inspired and hooked on, like, I had a couple singer songwriters come in and I just thought that was the most interesting expression.

And so in 2021 is when I really started, dedicating to the practice of songwriting and specifically, it was like morning pages and journaling just as kind of daily practice of, free range, just expression.

I guess that the very beginning of any song is just, me observing either my emotions or situation or the room around me or the nature around me.

And most of my songs start with me finding a chord progression that I can play over and over again, and then maybe a melodic line, and then maybe I start putting, words on there, and I don't.

I'm not trying to put any specific words.

I'm just seeing what comes out.

If I let myself go.

And a lot of what comes out is not stuff that sticks.

But then there's a line that the subconscious says, and I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

I don't know what this means all the way, but it feels like something that I'm working on, so.

So that's kind of where I feel like I start with most of my songs is just, kind of this Jeff Tweedy Wilco form of, babbling until something sticks, or something feels good.

And then if if I get a line that I don't understand what it means, but I kind of have an inkling, I start to walk in that direction and see how far it will take me and most of my songs.

It's that way.

Just very stream of consciousness, Anywhere you stream music, it's on all these platforms and I'm on YouTube and making music videos with the guy, Southern Ways Productions out of Mississippi.

So we have music videos on YouTube.

And then I have some physical copies, have Bandcamp during the body music.

So just all the ways that one would stream.

I, I always find it most interesting when I'm seeing a musician if they're playing their own stuff.

And sometimes when I go to a show and they start to do covers, I can get disengaged because I'm here to hear what you have to say or what you've made.

And, you know, not everyone's into that, but I am, so that's why I think it's important to play your own stuff out is that no one else is going to say it if you don't, you know?

So what's