>>> THE FINAL PUSH FOR AND AGAINST ISSUE 1.

>>> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

THE QUESTIONS ARE WHEN THIS BRIEF ISSUE 1 STARTED WHERE HOW MANY VOTERS WOULD TURN OUT AND WHICH SITE COULD TURN OUT THERE VOTERS?

THE IS WELCOME TO SAY EVEN WHEN VOTING ENDS ON THE PROPOSAL TO MAKE IT HARDER TO CHANGE THE OHIO CONSTITUTION.

A YES WHEN WOULD REQUIRE FUTURE MOMENTS GET 60% OF THE VOTE INSTEAD OF A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

IN THE, SIGNATURE GATHERING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIZEN GROUPS TO GET ON THE BALLOT.

BOTH SIDES SAY THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION FROM OUT OF STATE SPECIAL INTEREST.

YET, BOTH ARE GETTING MONEY FROM THOSE OUT OF STATE SPECIAL INTEREST.

ALL THAT MONEY IS FUELING A LOT OF TV ADS IN THESE FINAL DATES.

WHEN DISTRACTED AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

STATEWIDE ELECTION IN AUGUST, FIRST TIME SINCE THE 20s, 1920S.

BUT, MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT TURNOUT WOULD BE LOW.

WE HAVE EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS AS FAR AS TURNOUT HAS GONE.

AS A SUPPORTER OF ISSUE 1 AND LEADER IN THAT CAMPAIGN, DOES NOT WORRY YOU WORK IF YOU SOLACE THAT TURNOUT HAS BEEN SO HIGH?

>> IT EXCITES ME.

OF IOWANS, AS I PREDICTED IN MAY, THERE WAS A FALSE NARRATIVE TODAY AND AUGUST ELECTION WOULD BE LOW TURNOUT BUT IT HAS BEEN A GREAT TURNOUT SO FAR.

I HAVE READ COUNTLESS ARTICLES FROM REPORTERS ACROSS THE STATE THAT ARE NOT GREAT HERE, THERE, EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.

OUR EXPECTATIONS HAVE BEEN EXCEEDED IN EARLY VOTING BUT THIS IS GREAT FOR DEMOCRACY.

THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO LET THE PEOPLE COME TO THE PUBLIC SQUARE, HAVE A DEBATE AND CAST THEIR BALLOT.

IT'S WORKING.

>> THE URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS, DEMOCRATS FAR OUTNUMBER THE REPUBLICANS, WE CAN GUESS THEY ARE VOTING AGAINST ISSUE 1.

YOU HAVE ENOUGH IN THE RURAL AREAS TO CUT ABOUT THAT?

>> OF THE OF THE DAY, WE NEED 3 TO 4 PERSONS PER 10 IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY AND FRANKLIN COUNTY TO BE SUCCESSOR STATEWIDE.

IT IS A MODEL THAT IS WORKED IN THE PAST AND CAN WORK THIS TIME.

AS LONG AS THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THE LINE OF 10 OR MORE VOTE FOR JUST ON ISSUE 1.

WE WILL DO WELL IN OTHER COUNTIES AND WE WILL WIN.

>> DESIREE TIMMS, YOU ARE ONE OF THE LEADERS ON THE NO SIDE.

RURAL VOTER TURNOUT HAS INCREASED IN RECENT DAYS, IN THE PAST WEEK OR SO.

REPUBLICANS ARE USUALLY RELUCTANT TO VOTE EARLY.

NOW THEY SEEM TO BE MORE WILLING TO.

US THAT WERE YOU?

>> NOT AT ALL.

WE HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING ALL SUMMER, WHEN THE REPUBLICANS PULLED THIS SCAM OF AN ELECTION IN AUGUST, WE HAD LABOR UNION LEADERS, TEACHERS, SOME OF OUR PEOPLE ARE ALSO IN RURAL AREAS AND WE HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING TO GET THEM TO THE POLLS.

I AM THRILLED, MUCH LIKE MY OPPONENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE BECAUSE AUGUST ELECTIONS ARE GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.

AND, I MIGHT ADD THAT WE ARE STILL HAVING TROUBLE RECRUITING AND RETAINING POLL WORKERS.

SO, IT IS STILL GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK AND A TEDIOUS NIGHT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE FRONT LINES BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO SEEING THIS THROUGH.

>> THREE BIG DAYS, AS OF FRIDAY AFTERNOON, THREE BIG DAYS OF EARLY VOTING LEFT SATURDAY, SUNDAY, ELECTION DAY GOT TUESDAY.

JOE INGLES, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AS VOTES START TO COME IN TUESDAY EVENING?

>> GOING TO LOOK AT THE EARLY VOTES AND I WILL SEE HOW SOLID THOSE ARE AGAINST ISSUE 2.

THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM WOULD BE THE DEMOCRATS AND AQUATIC LEANING ISSUES, WHICH AGAINST ISSUE 2 WOULD BE, SHOULD COME IN HIGHER.

AND I HAD TALKED WITH THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY AND HE SAID THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE AND GET THEIR REPUBLICAN VOTERS TO VOTE EARLY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY NOTICE ON ELECTION NIGHT IS SKEW MORE DEMOCRATIC AND THEY WANT TO SEE MORE REPUBLICANS REPRESENTED THAN THAT.

THAT IS WHAT I WILL BE LOOKING FOR PETE >> MIKE, EARLY ON, YOU HAD THE EARLY ADS FROM THE NO SIDE BEAT IN THE PAST WEEK THEY JUST SIDE WILL OUTSPEND THE NO SIDE ON TV ADS.

WHAT HAS CHANGED TO MAKE TV ADVERTISING SO IMPORTANT TO YOUR CAMPAIGN NOW?

>> SATURATING THE MARKET PLACE WITH EDUCATION, WHAT REALLY IS AT STAKE.

IF MY REPORTS ARE CORRECT, THE NO SIDE JUST DID A HUGE AD BY AN ALASKA PLACE.

INTERNAL POLLS SO THIS WILL BE A VERY TIGHT RACE.

IT'S A VERY TIGHT RACE RIGHT NOW.

IT IS A TURNOUT ELECTION.

OUR PEOPLE SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY.

WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

LEADING WITH THE MOMENTUM GOING TO TAKE AUGUST 8th.

>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE GET OUT THE VOTE, YOU MENTIONED LABOR UNIONS, WHO ELSE IS TRYING TO GET THE BOAT OUT ON THE NO SIDE?

>> WE HAVE BLACK LEADERS FROM CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS, TEACHERS, GRANDMAS, GRANDPAS, PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY, ONE PERSON ONE VOTE.

WE ARE CALLING ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE VOTING, PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE.

I THINK WE WILL WIN ON TUESDAY AND I THINK WE WILL WIN BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

>> YOU ARE RELYING A LOT ON CHURCHES, VESSELS TO THE POLLS IN RURAL AREAS.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE AFRICAN- AMERICAN CHURCHES IN URBAN AREAS.

HERE YOUR TIME TO DO THAT IN THE RURAL AREA, RIGHT, MIKE?

>> THERE ARE CATHOLIC PARISHES IN BIG CITIES.

I SPENT A COUPLE DAYS IN TOLEDO.

VISITING VARIOUS CATHOLIC PARISHES OF ALL DENOMINATIONS.

ABSOLUTELY, YES, WE ARE DOING THAT.

WE ARE RELYING ON FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS TOO BUT THEY ARE REJECTING WHAT THEIR UNION BOSSES IN DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS ARE SAYING WHEN THEY SEE WHAT IS ON THE LINE.

OUR STRENGTH IS THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COALITION, MIKE.

IT WOULD BE FAITH-BASED, WHETHER IT BE FROM A FARMER OR BUSINESS WE ARE ALL COMING OUT TO VOTE.

>> IS THIS GOING TO BE DECIDED ON THE SHOULD MAKE IT HARDER TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION, OR WILL THIS BE DECIDED, BECAUSE IT IS IN AUGUST AND IT IS A TOUGH TIME TO GET PEOPLE TO COME OUT", WILL IT BE DECIDED ON ORGANIZATION AND TURNOUT?

>> THAT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION BUT I GUESS WE WILL SEE.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ORGANIZATION AND TURNOUT IS GOING TO PT AND WHOEVER DOES A BETTER JOB OF THAT IS GOING TO END UP ON TOP WITH THIS.

I IT IS A HARD TIME TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE.

BUT FOR THE EARLY VOTE HAS PROVEN TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING I AM VOTING EARLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS ON ELECTION DAY.

>> BECAUSE ISSUE 1 IS A PRE- REFERENDUM ON THE ABORTION ISSUE, CHURCHES AND THEIR MEMBERS HAVE A LOT AT STAKE ON TUESDAY.

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OFFICIALLY IS NEUTRAL.

HERE IN COLUMBUS, EARL FERNANDEZ HAS SENT WORD TO PLEASE THAT IF THEY WANTED TO URGE MEMBERS TO VOTE YES, THEY COULD DO SO.

THE COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, WHICH INCLUDES MORE LIBERAL MEMBERS IS MORE DIRECT.

IT URGES VOTERS TO REJECT ISSUE ONE.

THERE IS SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AND CHURCHES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS.

IS THERE ANY LEVEL OF DISCOMFORT THAT BOTH SIDES ARE REALLY TAPPING INTO THEIR FACE LEADERS ?

THEIR FACE LEADERS ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS COMMISERATING TONIGHT?

>> I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A DANGER NOT BUT I THINK RACE LEADERS HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES OF CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. WAS A MINISTER.

PEOPLE FORGET THAT.

SO, I KNOW FOR MY FAITH AND MY COMMUNITY, WE CERTAINLY LEAN ON THE CHURCH BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF SHARING VALUES.

NOW, IN TERMS OF POLITICS OR ENDORSING CANDIDATES THEM ILLEGALLY, THEY SHOULD NOT DO THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLICY AND VALUES THAT ALIGN WITH I AM CHRISTIAN SO, MY CHRISTIAN FAITH CERTAINLY EXPECT TO HEAR SOME SORT OF ECHOES WITHIN OTHER PEOPLE WHO SHARE MY FAITH.

>> JOE INGLES, CHURCHES CAN'T ENDORSE CANDIDATES BUT THIS ISN'T A CANDIDATE ELECTED, THIS IS AN ISSUE ELECTION.

THE CHURCHES ARE FREE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO >> ACCORDING TO THE IRS, FEDERAL, STATE LAW, LOCAL LAW, ABSOLUTELY.

CHURCHES, MINISTERS, PASTORS, ALL DONATIONS, ALL WALKS OF LIFE CAN STAND UP AND URGE THEIR PARISHIONERS TO VOTE YES OR TO VOTE NO AND THEY CAN DO THAT SIX DAYS A WEEK AND TWICE ON SUNDAY.

WE ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO THAT.

IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AS DESIREE SAID, SHE HAD A GREAT TRIBUTE IT IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY, NOT TO WE RELY ON.

WE LOOK TO PASTORS AND MINISTERS.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH SO MANY DENOMINATIONS ACROSS THE STATE.

>> JOE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK SINCE THE DAY MARRIAGE BAN IN 2004, THAT AMENDMENT WAS PASSED THAT CHURCHES HAVE BEEN FRONT AND CENTER IN THE CAMPAIGN.

WILL SEE A LOT MORE WITH ABORTION ON THE BALLOT.

>> THE ABORTION ISSUE IS DRIVING A LOT.

PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION IN CHURCHES BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE.

BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT HAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE, A LOT OF THE GROUPS PUT OUT LIKE A SCORECARD AND THEY PUT THEM IN THE CHURCHES IN THE FLYERS, IN THE BULLETINS.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON IN EVERY ELECTED.

YOU MIGHT NOT THINK ABOUT BUT CHURCHES HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN STANDS AND ON BOTH SIDES AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

>> TO CHURCH MEMBERS FOLLOW THEIR LEADERS?

DO WE HAVE: THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS YOU GO TO THE BOOTH, IT IS A PRIVATE DECISION.

MAYBE, WE WILL FIND OUT.

>> THERE ARE POLLS THAT SHOW THAT CATHOLICS, THAT MENTORSHIP IS NOT QUITE AS CLEARLY OPPOSED TO ABORTION RIGHTS AS THE LEADERS ARE.

>> I THINK WE HAVE SOME POLLING.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO DIVE INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY WE THINK ABOUT WHITE IMAGE OF THE COLD CHURCHES.

THEY TEND TO VOTE MORE CONSERVATIVELY.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME STUDIES I THINK AS CHURCH ATTENDANCE SORT OF HAS WANED OVER THE YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS AS WELL TO SORT OF SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN SAID PASTOR ENCOURAGES HIS OR HER DELEGATION TO VOTE A PARTICULAR WAY.

>> WHAT IS PLAN B FOR OPPONENTS OF ABORTION RIGHTS, MIKE, WHAT IS PLAN B IF ISSUE 1 FAILS?

>> IS NOT GOING TO FAIL TO WINTER QUESTION, LET WHAT I'M HERE TO DO.

WE HAVE TO WAKE UP WEDNESDAY AUGUST 9th AND RICARDO.

WE WILL HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT AND TO WIN IN NOVEMBER.

WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE OUR BALL AND GO HOME, WE WILL DUST OURSELVES OFF, GET UP, GO TO WORK, FIGHT HARD TO WIN IN NOVEMBER.

>> IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE THAT YOUR SITE MIGHT TAKE?

IS THERE ANOTHER, PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO PUT ON THE TOURNAMENT ON THE BALLOT BUT IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE STATE LAW BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, TRYING TO TAKE SOME WIND OUT OF THE SAILS OF THIS AMENDMENT TO PUSH?

>> AS OF RIGHT NOW AS THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AT, THE CALIPER FOR THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE ISSUE 2, 9, 10 BECOME A STUDENT OF THE LAW, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE LAW AND THEY HAVE QUALIFIED.

HERE WE GO.

>> DESIREE, WHAT IS PLAN B FOR SUPPORTERS OF ABORTION RIGHTS IF ISSUE 1 SUCCEEDS AND IT WILL TAKE 60% TO GET THAT AMENDMENT PASSED IN NOVEMBER, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?

>> PLAN A IS TO WIN IN AUGUST.

THEN, SHOULD THE RESULTS NOT BE FAVORABLE, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ORGANIZE AND MOBILIZE OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY VOTE IN NOVEMBER TO SOLIDIFY THAT RIGHT.

I THINK WE WILL ALSO AMPLIFY THE STORIES OF REAL FAMILIES AND REAL PEOPLE AND THE TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES THEY ARE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE OF THESE LAWS.

I THINK THAT WILL CERTAINLY HEIGHTEN IN TERMS OF THE MEDIA AND THE STORIES THAT PEOPLE WILL HEAR AS WE GET CLOSER TO NOVEMBER.

>> WILL IT BE HARDER IF YOU HAVE TO GET 60%?

IN NOVEMBER TO GET THIS ABORTION RIGHTS AMENDMENT PASSED, WOULD BE HARDER TO GET NATIONAL MONEY, TO GET PEOPLE IT WILL BE THAT MUCH HARDER TO WIN THAT RACE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE HARDER.

I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS AND OHIO WHO ARE SENDING THEIR CHILDREN TO UNIVERSITIES HERE WILL CERTAINLY CARE ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE FIRED UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET AT 60% THRESHOLD.

BUT, I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT.

I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO WIN NEXT WEEK.

>> JOE, WHAT ABOUT LAWMAKERS?

WHAT IF ISSUE 1 PASSES, WHAT IF IT FAILS?

>> THE GOVERNOR MIKE DEVINE HAS TALKED ABOUT HAVING LAWMAKERS COME BACK AND MAYBE CLARIFYING THE SIX WEEK HEARTBEAT BAN THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD BY COURTS.

THAT HAD SOME ISSUES LAST SUMMER.

IT DOES HAVE EXCEPTIONS FOR LIFE OF THE MOTHER BUT THEN YOU KNOW, WE HEARD WHERE SOMETIMES THEY HAD PROBLEMS, DOCTORS HAVE PROBLEMS FIGURING OUT WHERE THE LINES WERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON WITH THAT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLARIFIED COMING INTO THIS ELECTION.

THAT IS ONE THING I WILL BE LOOKING FOR.

>> ALL RIGHT, NEXT TOPIC.

UNLESS THEY DELIBERATELY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO FIND UNREGISTERED VOTERS TO SIGN THE PETITIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE SUPPORTERS OF LEGAL MARIJUANA LOOK AT THEIR QUESTION ON THE BALLOT.

ADVOCATES CAME UP SHORT IN THEIR INITIAL SIGNATURE GATHERING EFFORT AND THEN HAD A WEEK AND HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

THEY HAD UNTIL TODAY TO SUBMIT BALLOT VALID SIGNATURES BUT IS 6500 SIGNATURES TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE FOR INSPECTION.

9 OUT OF EVERY 10 WOULD HAVE TO BE REJECTED FOR THE ISSUE TO FAIL TO MAKE THE BALLOT.

JOE INGLES, IT LOOKS LIKE LEGAL MARIJUANA WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT UNLESS SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY HAPPENS.

BUT, 6500 SIGNATURES IN 10 DAYS IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

>> WE HAD HAD REPORTS OF PEOPLE COMING INTO "THE RELUCTANCE TO DO EARLY VOTING FOR THE SET THEY SAW PEOPLE OUT THERE GATHERING SUBMITTERS.

YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU WERE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THAT IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO ACTUALLY GET THOSE REGISTERED VOTERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE, THEY ARE REGISTERED AND THEY WILL VOTE.

I THINK THAT WAS EASY.

PLUS, IT IS SUMMER.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING, MAKE.

YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND FIND PLACES TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN PETITIONS.

>> STATE FAIR IS.

>> STATE FAIR, COUNTY FAIRS.

FESTIVALS, ALL KINDS OF PLACES.

>> IF ONLY OPPOSITION DRIVES WERE HAPPENING IN THE SUMMER THEY WOULD ALL GET ON THE BALLOT.

IT'S FISH ON THE BARREL.

>> IT IS A GREAT STRATEGY.

WHAT WE SEE WITH MARIJUANA IS THE EXACT IDEA THE NOTION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ISSUE 1 COMPANY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CURE, THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE THE ADDITIONAL SIGNATURES.

THAT IS ONE MORE REASON I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL NEXT WEEK.

MARIJUANA IS SOMETHING THAT MAY DRIVE OUT TO YOUNGER VOTERS.

>> THE CURE PERIOD WOULD GO AWAY IF ISSUE 1 PASSES.

THAT IS THE 10 DAY GRACE IF YOU FALL SHORT SIGNATURES.

MIKE, WHAT IS THE MESSAGING.

TO OPPOSE LEGAL MARIJUANA, CORRECT?

>> I AM A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL BOARD, WE SUPPORT MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

>> YOU OPPOSE LEGAL RECREATION MARIJUANA PROPOSAL.

WHAT IS THE MESSAGING THAT THE OPPONENTS TO THIS WILL USE IN THE COMING MONTHS?

>> HAVE TO WORK IN EIGHT OF THE WAY I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR ISSUE 1 BECAUSE IT WILL HELP YOU DRIFT MANY DRUGS ON THE STREET, TOO MANY PEOPLE DYING, OVERDOSED OXYCONTIN, HEROIN, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STREETCAR, GATEWAY DRUG.

DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS WILL AGREE, EASILY, WITH OF THE STANDARD IS 60%, 50%, THIS WILL BE 50% PLUS ONE INITIATED STATUTE, IT'S NOT GOING TO PAST AND IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF OHIOANS DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED MORE DRUGS, WE NEED LESS DRUGS, TOO MANY KIDS ARE DYING IN THE STATE.

>> MESSAGE WITHIN OPIOID TRUE FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, IS THAT EFFECTIVE ?

>> HASN'T BEEN AS EFFECTIVE IN OTHER STATES AND I THINK WHEN YOU COMPARE OHIO TO MICHIGAN, THE STATE OF NORTH, AND WE SEE OTHER STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE LEGALIZED MARIJUANA AND PEOPLE SEE SOME OF THE TAX BENEFITS OF THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN IT, I DO THINK THERE WILL BE ARGUMENTS ON THE SUPPORTING SITE THAT MAY BE MORE PERSUASIVE THIS GO AROUND BECAUSE IT FAILED LAST TIME.

I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE PROPONENTS LEARNED FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE PREVIOUS CAMPAIGN.

>> THE STATEHOUSE REACTANT, THIS LIKELY WILL BE ON THE BALLOT, THEY'VE BEEN RELUCTANT TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS.

THE SENATE PRESIDENT WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH LEGALIZING MARIJUANA.

DO THEY DO ANYTHING?

DO THEY SEE WHERE THE CHIPS FALL IN NOVEMBER?

>> IT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH IT.

IT IS NOT, WHEN OHIOANS LOOKED AT MARIJUANA BEFORE, 2015 I THINK AND BACK THEN, MARIJUANA WAS DIFFERENT IN PEOPLE'S EYES BECAUSE THEY HADN'T TRAVELED TO DIFFERENT PLACES SO MUCH THAT HAD LEGAL MARIJUANA.

NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT BORDER STATES LIKE MICHIGAN WHO HAVE LEGAL MARIJUANA, PEOPLE ARE THE QUESTION IS, HAS THE ATTITUDE CHANGED?

IF YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC OPINION POLLS, IT CERTAINLY SUGGESTS THAT IT HAS.

>> RESPECTFULLY, DESIREE, COMPARING OHIO TO MICHIGAN, LEAVING FOOTBALL ASIDE, IT IS A MISNOMER.

THE STATE OF MICHIGAN ELECTED A VERY LIBERAL DEMOCRAT AND THE STATE OF OHIO ELECTED A VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN BUT A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE PUTTING TRENDS ARE POLAR OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW WE ARE TOUCHING EACH OTHER.

I DON'T THINK IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO DO A MICHIGAN OHIO COMPARISON BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WE ELECT, THE THINGS THAT WE AGREE ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTSIDE OF SPORTS, OF COURSE.

>> OF OHIOANS TRAVEL TO MICHIGAN TO GET MARIJUANA, DRIVE IT BACK.

RAISING OTHER STATES DO IT.

HASN'T LED TO THE CATASTROPHE THAT OPIOIDS HAS LED TO.

THE STUDIES ARE MIXED ON THE EFFECTS IT HAS ON THE ECONOMY AND ON HEALTH BUT IT CERTAINLY HAS NOT BEEN AS BAD AS WHAT WE SEE WITH SENTINEL AND OPIOIDS AND PAINKILLERS.

ARE OHIOANS GOING TO EQUATE THOSE TWO?

ARE THEY SEEING THEM AS TWO DIFFERENT DRUGS?

>> TO TAKE JOE'S ARGUMENT.

I GO TO OTHER STATES QUITE OFTEN FOR WHAT I DO AND IT IS DISGUSTING.

YOU GO TO COLORADO, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE STREETS, GO TO OTHER STATES THAT HAVE LEGALIZED, LIBERALIZED POT, IT IS EVERYWHERE.

I FEAR FROM OTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING, IT IS GOING TO BE STRIVING.

>> THE STATE IS NOT SEEN TO HAVE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE BUT THEY ARE SAYING TREAT LIKE ALCOHOL AND YOU STILL HAVE DRUNK DRIVING BECAUSE BEER IS LEGAL.

>> WE HAVE MEDICAL MARIJUANA, IT IS LICENSED, REGULATED, IT IS WORKING YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO MICHIGAN TO MOTHER MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

YOU CAN GET IT RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF OUR WELL.

>> A LOT OF CONSERVATIVE STATES HAVE REJECTED RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA PROPOSALS IN RECENT MONTHS.

WILL OHIO FOLLOW THOSE STATES?

DO YOU WORRY THAT THEY WOULD FOLLOW?

ARKANSAS WAS ONE OF THE STATES THAT REJECTED IT.

>> I DON'T.

OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF CONSERVATIVE I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE THAT WILL MOTIVATE TURNOUT.

I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ELECTORATE WHEN WE HAVE MARIJUANA AND ABORTION ON THE SAME BALLOT.

AT THE SAME TIME.

>> JOE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT DOES?

THESE TWO ISSUES, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SPLIT VOTE HERE ?

YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST LEGAL WEED BUT FOR THE AGAINST POT BUT FOR ABORTION RIGHTS, IS THERE CROSSOVER?

>> LET'S JUST SAY FIRST OFF I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE POLLING.

LET'S THROW THAT OUT.

IF YOU LOOK, RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE LOOKING AT LIKELY VOTERS.

I THINK WHAT THE MARIJUANA ISSUE IS GOING TO DO WAS BRING OUT VOTERS WHO ARE NOT LIKELY VOTERS.

THAT THROWS EVERYTHING IN PLAY.

IN 2018, MIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO THE 2018, I LOOKED AT MICHIGAN.

THE TURNOUT WAS 11% HIGHER THAN THE SEVEN PREVIOUS MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

IN 2018, THAT IS WHEN MICHIGAN HAD POT ON THE BALLOT.

THEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGE OF THE AGES WERE YOUNGER.

PEOPLE WERE AND THAT 18 TO 29, THERE WAS A HUGE INCREASE IN THAT AGE GROUP.

SO, THOSE ARE AGE GROUPS THAT COULD, IF OHIO FOLLOWS MICHIGAN'S LEAD, MIKE DOESN'T THINK IT WILL, BUT IF IT WERE TO FOLLOW THAT IT COULD REALLY HELP THE ABORTION ISSUE.

>> HOW DOES THAT PLAY WITH THEM BOTH ON THE BALLOT?

>> NOT ONLY GALVANIZES, IT'S SUPER GALVANIZES THE FAITH- BASED COMMUNITY IN OHIO.

ALL DENOMINATIONS, NONDENOMINATIONAL PEOPLE, WE HAVE NOT ONE BUT TWO MAJOR ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUR WAY OF LIFE HERE IN OHIO.

I WILL TELL YOU, EVERY FAITH- BASED CHRISTIAN VOTER IN THE STATE AND OTHER STATES AS WELL WILL VOTE NO ON WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF THOSE ISSUES ARE.

>> I DISAGREE WITH THAT BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE FAITH LEADERS WILL SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA AND TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUFFERED FROM HAVING A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MARIJUANA SERVING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME REENTERING SOCIETY, IT IS GOING TO SHIFT DYNAMICS AS WE TALK ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM.

EVEN TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO ABORTION.

THE DOCTORS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE FRONTLINES IN NOVEMBER AS WELL.

I AGREE, THE ELECTORATE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

AND, I DON'T KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN FORECAST IN TERMS OF PULLING DATA.

>> YOU'VE GOT SCHOOL LEVIES, IT'S GOING TO BE AN AUDIT ELECTION.

BALLOT ISSUES ARE THE BIG ISSUES HERE IN OHIO.

NATIONALLY, THE BIG ISSUE IS FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S THIRD INDICTMENT.

THIS ONE FOR THE CONSPIRACY TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION.

FOR THE MOST PART, OHIO REPUBLICAN'S ARE EITHER ENDORSING THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND SHOWING FULL SUPPORT OR THEY ARE STAYING QUITE THE LATEST TO ENDORSE, THE MAN WHO CLAIMED THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN IS THE MAN WHO RAN OHIO'S 2020 ELECTION, FRANK LAROSE.

HE HOPES HE WILL BE THE DONALD TRUMP AND FRANK LAROSE IS RUNNING IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR U.S. SENATE.

MIKE, ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM CITY COUNCIL TO THE STATE LAWMAKER TO GOVERNOR'S, YOU ARE INVITED THREE TIMES, YOUR CAREER IS LIKELY OVER ARE NOT GOING TO GET ELECTED.

DONALD TRUMP CONTINUES TO SHOW SUPPORT, EVEN GROSS SUPPORT EVEN AMONG OHIOANS.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR PEOPLE TO SAY HE MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST GUY?

>> YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, IT IS THE GREATEST THING WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY.

MEN AND WOMEN TO FIGHT BATTLES TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT WE HAVE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, MIKE, WHAT PRESIDENT ALLEGEDLY DID OR SAID USING HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, OF COURSE, IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HILLARY SAID, CLAIMING THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM HER, STACEY ABRAMS CONTINUED TO THIS DAY SAYS, GET NO INDICTMENT, NO CHARGES.

>> SHE DIDN'T BRING A SLATE OF ELECTORS, SHE DIDN'T ASK THE TO FIND HER VOTES.

THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN COMPLAINING AFTER AN ELECTION THAT YOU LOST.

THIS IS A STEP ON THAT, WOULD YOU AGREE?

>> NO, I WANT.

I DON'T AGREE, I SHOULD SAY.

WE ARE GOING TO LET THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM PLAY OUT AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS BUT I DON'T BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP WILL BE FOUND GUILTY OF INDICTMENT ONE, TWO, THREE.

IS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND HE MAY OR MAY NOT WIN.

>> THE THREE, OHIO REPUBLICAN STILL CONTINUE TO ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP.

WHY AREN'T DEMOCRATS, ARE THEY, WHY CAN'T THEY USE THAT AGAINST THEM ?

WHAT HAVE THEY NOT DONE TO ATTRACT THE WORKING-CLASS VOTER TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE SHOULDN'T BE ELECTING A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN INDICTED, NOT CONVICTED INDICTED THREE TIMES.

>> LARRY HOUSEHOLDER ONE ELECTION AFTER THAT'S SCANDAL BROKE TO THINK WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE VOTE AND TELL PEOPLE ACT OUR POLITICS ARE LOCAL.

GIVEN DONALD TRUMP'S MOST LOYAL SUPPORTERS THEY SEE THAT IT IS JANUARY 6th BUT THEY DON'T BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE INDICTED OR IMPRISONED FOR IT.

I THINK THAT JUST HE HAS STRONG HOLD ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

WITH DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE AND I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN OHIO WILL FALL IN LINE.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TAKE THE CASE AND TALK ABOUT LIGHTS JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS SHOULD BE REELECTED.

IT IS GOING TO BE A GROUND GAME AND MOBILIZING PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY THAT BREAKS THROUGH THIS TIME.

>> JOE INGLES, FRANK LAROSE HAD NO CHOICE, JUST TO ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP, RIGHT ?

>> JUST, YOU KNOW, FRANK LAROSE WANTS TO BE U.S.

SENATOR AND HE KNOWS LAST TIME HE WON, DONALD TRUMP FROM THE BAKKEN.

HE WANTS AT THIS TIME.

THAT IS NOT A NEW THING.

>> BRITNEY MARINO HAD TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT, QUASI-ENDORSEMENT EARLY ON LAST WEEK AND ABOUT OUT.

NOW FOR OUR FINAL COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD THOSE ITEMS, YOUR FIRST >> I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL ON TUESDAY AND I AM PREGNANT THAT WE WILL WIN BY A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

>> JUST 51 TO 49?

>> I HOPE IT IS WIDER BUT AT A MINIMUM, SIMPLE MAJORITY.

>> I BELIEVE OHIOANS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO, AUGUST 8 AND DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, POLICE OFFICERS, PRO-LIFE, PROFAMILY PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND WE WILL WIN.

MAYBE IT IS 51, 49.

52-48.

IT WILL BE CLOSE.

I BELIEVE WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL ON ELECTION NIGHT.

>> JOE INGLES.

>> I BELIEVE OHIOANS ARE GOING TO GET REALLY TIRED OF GOING EVERYWHERE THIS WEEKEND AND HAVING PEOPLE TALK TO THEM ABOUT ISSUE 1.

YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON .

I THINK EVERY CANVASSING GROUP I KNOW OF IS GOING TO LIKE THE IRISH FESTIVAL, THE BILLY JOEL CONCERT, YOU NAME IT.

YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GET SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT ISSUE 1.

>> OHIO'S SECOND ANNUAL BIGFOOT FESTIVAL IS THIS WEEKEND IN THE HOCKING HILLS.

OHIO BANKS FOURTH IN THE NATION IN BIGFOOT SIGHTINGS.

NOT SURE IF THAT SHOULD BE A SOURCE OF PRIDE OR CHAGRIN BUT I PREDICT OHIO'S RANKING WILL IMPROVE IF VOTERS LEGALIZE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA IN NOVEMBER.

GOOD LUCK TO THE 6500 BICYCLISTS WRITING THIS WEEK FOR PELOTONIA.

GOOD LUCK, STAY HYDRATED.

THAT IS COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD FOR THIS WEEK.

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