>>> LEGAL MARIJUANA JOINT ABORTION RIGHTS.

[ music ] >> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

WE USUALLY HAVE ODD YEAR ELECTIONS.

NOT THIS YEAR.

LEGAL RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA DOES NOT HAVE EXTRA SIGNATURES THEY NEEDED TO GET ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

THESE WILL DECIDE TWO HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES OF MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION OF LAWS AND ABORTION-RIGHTS AMENDMENTS.

OF COURSE, MARIJUANA SUPPORTERS HAD TO GO BACK OUT AND GET MORE SIGNATURES.

>> I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY, THEY WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT SHORT.

THEY EXPECTED TO FEEL THAT GAP, AND THEY HAD 4500 SIGNATURES.

THEY NEEDED 700.

SO, THAT'S LISTED ON THE BALLOT WITH THE ABORTION-RIGHTS MEASURE THIS NOVEMBER.

>> THEY SEEM VERY ORGANIZED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

THEY HAVE SOLID MESSAGING AND ARE READY TO GO.

>> NORMALLY, RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA IS A CONTROVERSIAL THING HAPPENING IN OHIO.

GIVING THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ALSO GOING TO BE QUESTIONED HERE WE SAW THAT THE COALITION OF MARIJUANA IN CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS, YOU KNOW, IS A GOOD SOURCE OF MONEY, AS WELL AS PROSECUTORS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT SPEAKS WELL, AT LEAST, FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT.

>> BOB, THE MESSAGING IS PRETTY CLEAR.

THERE'S CHILDREN'S HEALTH, WORKPLACE SAFETY, PRODUCTIVITY, THAT HAS TO BE THERE MESSAGE.

>> REMEMBER, I WORKED ON THE 2015 MARIJUANA AMENDMENT THAT PASSED, AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THAT.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THEY PLACE THIS IN THE ODD-NUMBERED YEARS.

I KEPT SAYING NO, YOU WANT TO DO THIS IN 2016, NOT 2015.

THEY DID NOT WANT TO WAIT.

IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE ABORTION AMENDMENT, BUT STILL, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE KIND OF TURNOUT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN 2024, THE PRESIDENTIAL YOUR, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER TURNOUT.

>> LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG, I THINK THIS ISSUE HAS BECOME DESENSITIZED OVER TIME.

I THINK WHAT HAS CHANGED, EVEN SINCE 2015, IS THE FACT THAT SO MANY OTHER STATES HAVE NOW LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.

SO, THEY HAVE SEEN THAT THE WORLD HAS NOT COME TO AN END.

I DON'T THINK THIS ISSUE IS GOING TO COME BACK.

IT WILL BREAK OUT THE OPPONENTS OF THE MEASURE BECAUSE NOBODY THINKS THAT MUCH ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

>> WE SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE ALCOHOL, KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE KIDS.

MANY OTHER STATES HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.

THEY HAVE SCARE MESSAGING, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY ARE DEFEATED.

>> AND LET ME ALSO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS YES, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP MARIJUANA AWAY FROM YOUNG PEOPLE.

BUT, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE SCARED OF ANYMORE.

>> THE LANGUAGE IS INTERESTING.

THE OPPONENTS ARE CALLING IT WEED, WHERE WE CALL IT ADULT CANNABIS.

[ laughter ] KNOW?

>> YEAH, THIS IS AN ISSUE.

THEY ARE TRYING TO FLOAT FLIGHT PRETTY LOW UNDER THE RADAR.

THEY HAVE AN ABORTION MEASURE THAT THEY ARE HAPPY TO HAVE BE DISCUSSED.

BUT ALSO, THE LANGUAGE IS JUST SAYING IT'S LIKE ALCOHOL.

THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMONPLACE.

>> ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST THIS?

>> I GUESS I WILL SEE.

IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT RESOURCES, OHIO HAS A NICE CAMPAIGN NATIONALLY.

THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS ON THE ISSUE THERE ARE OUT-OF-STATE INTERESTS THAT FUND THESE THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS AN MARIJUANA GENERALLY RIGHT NOW.

WHETHER IT IS JUST OTHER STATES THERE IS JUST GOING TO BE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE ABORTION AMENDMENT.

SO, WE WILL SEE.

IT SEEMS TO BE A WINNING POLITICAL ISSUE, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE OPPOSITE CAMPAIGNS AND VIABLE CAMPAIGN ARGUMENTS.

>> IT'S THE SAME WHERE THEY WERE YEARS AGO.

>> NOW, LAST TIME, WHEN WE DID IT, WE HAD A VERY FINITE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

SO, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE THE ONES THAT CAMPAIGN.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT, AND THAT IS A QUESTION OF WHERE THE MONEY AND SUPPORT OF THIS IS GOING TO COME FROM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD NECESSARILY DROP IT.

SO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FUNDING BASE RIGHT THERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE CON ARTISTS OF MARIJUANA.

IF YOU SPEAK TO A PROSECUTOR ABOUT HAVING A SUITABLE AMOUNT IT'S NOT ABOUT THE USE, IS ABOUT THE COMMERCE.

>> YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY WHEN IT IS JUST MEDICINAL.

YOU ONLY MAKE MONEY IN THIS WORLD IN GROWING POT IS IF YOU HAVE IT RECREATIONALLY.

THAT IS WHAT GETS YOU THE PROFITS.

>> THE INTEREST IS TO WIN.

WHAT IS THE NUMBER, 55% MAJORITY?

HOW DOES IT PASS IF IT PASSES, YOU KNOW?

BECAUSE 51-49 YOU CAN SAY, THAT'S NOT A MAJORITY, WE CAN UNDO IT.

>> LET'S LOOK THE LEGISLATURE DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

GIVEN THAT KIND OF SENATE SOLUTION WITH THE PROSPECTS OF A RECREATIONAL PROPOSAL, WE ARE EXPANDING THE MEDICAL PROGRAM I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL CLIMATE THERE.

A NUMBER THAT STICKS OUT TO ME IS A WHOLE USA TODAY NETWORK AND UNIVERSITY THIS JULY THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE ABORTION ISSUE, BUT THEY FOUND 2024 VOTERS OR MORE CASUAL VOTERS IT WAS SOMETHING, LIKE, 63%.

THOSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT POLITICAL PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF PRETTY BROAD NUMBERS.

WE WILL JUST SEE HOW THE CAMPAIGN PLAYS OUT.

IT IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH THING TO DEFEAT.

>> WE WILL LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR, WHEN WE HAVE AN EVEN BIGGER MAJORITY.

WITH THE ABORTION-RIGHTS AMENDMENT, ABORTION-RIGHTS HOPE TO CAPITALIZE MOMENTUM OF BEING ISSUE ONE LAST WEEK.

ABORTION-RIGHTS LOOK TO REGROUP AND CERTIFY -- CLEVELAND WILL HOST A FUNDRAISER LATER THIS MONTH TO RAISE MONEY TO FIGHT TO THE AMENDMENT.

SUPPORTIVE ISSUE ONE NOT CAMPAIGN FOR IT.

WE DID NOT CAMPAIGN AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

>> THE GOVERNOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF ISSUE ONE, BUT HE DID NOT PUT THE KIND OF INFO INTO IT THAT HE COULD.

ON THIS, HE SIGNALED THAT HE PLANNED TO TALK ABOUT A LOT -- HE CLOSED HIS CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT RECENTLY.

HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR RE- ELECTION.

BUT, HE WILL BE RAISING MONEY FOR THIS.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO LIFE COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T WANT POLITICAL ADVISERS TO DEFEATED, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING, WITH THE GOVERNOR IS DOING, AND LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD.

SO, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO PAY THE CITY IF THE CITY IS NOT AN ISSUE.

>> HE HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY TAKING AWAY ABORTION-RIGHTS.

IS THIS MAN THE BEST PERSON TO CARRY SWAYING UNDECIDED INDEPENDENCE?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

GIVEN HIS MARGIN OF VICTORY LAST YEAR, YEAH, I THINK HE'S A BAD MESSENGER ACTUALLY.

I THINK THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE -- WHERE HE WILL BE DOING MOST OF HIS WORK.

I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT HE'S A CATHOLIC BISHOP.

YOU DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN.

I THINK THAT DEDICATES HOW INVOLVED HE GETS WITH THE CHURCH ON THIS ABORTION ISSUE.

>> AND THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING LEGALLY.

CONSERVATIVE CATHOLICS CONSIDER THIS BEING THE PREEMINENT ISSUE ETHNICALLY AND SOCIALLY.

IT DID NOT SURPRISE ME THAT HE WANTED TO DO THIS AND GO FORWARD ON IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SPEAKS A LOT TO MESSAGING.

BUT, I THINK WHAT THEY NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON IS A QUALITY MESSAGE AND THE CLARITY OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY.

THE MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT THAT THIS AMENDMENT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH TRANSGENDER SURGERY FOR MINORS OR MAKING SOMETHING UP.

IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

>> DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF THIS ISSUE IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THIS AMENDMENT?

>> WELL, IN A LOT OF WAYS, YOU HAD TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE OHIO CONSTITUTION IS.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LEARNED HOW TO PAY CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT.

I THINK ABORTION ACCESS IS A THING, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WITH ROE UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE AND HAVE A POSITION ON IT.

>> ONE DOES THIS REALLY GET GOING?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

LATER THIS MONTH.

THEY WILL SAY IS THIS ISSUE ONE, IS THIS IS YOUR TWO THEY WILL HAVE A MAILER FOR THE NUMBER OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR.

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LATE 20s BUT THEN, THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN SEASON IS AFTER LABOR DAY.

IT WILL HEAT UP SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> YOU HAVE TO TELL FOLKS TO VOTE OPPOSITE THE WAY THAT THEY USUALLY WOULD.

>> [ laughter ] THAT IS WHAT WERE THINKING ABOUT.

ISSUE ONE, I DID A GREAT JOB.

THEY KNOW ISSUE ONE, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO TOTALLY FLIP- FLOPPED ON THAT.

>> THEY ARE MESSING AROUND.

>> YEAH, BUT, LIKE JESSE SAID EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE AT.

YOU DON'T GO TO A BALLOT BOX ON ABORTIONS AND SAY GEE, I WONDER WHAT I AM GOING TO VOTE ON THAT.

[ indiscernible - low volume ] >> GOOD QUESTION.

THIS IS NOT A TIME TO TAKE A VICTORY LAP.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FIGHT AGAIN ON ISSUE ONE.

OR ONE, OR TWO, WHATEVER IT IS.

WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

SO, NO.

WE CAN'T JUST APPROACH THIS AS A GIVEN.

>> WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF PROXY SPIKES IN ABORTION WITH A CLEAR RECORD TO ABORTION OR ABORTION RESTRICTIONS OBVIOUSLY FAILED MISERABLY IN THAT ELECTION.

THEN WE HAD ISSUE ONE, WHICH IS ANOTHER POSSIBLE WAR FOR ABORTION ACCESS.

I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE WAR.

>> THE ISSUE ONE DEFEAT -- >> I DON'T THINK IT LASTS VERY LONG.

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF ABORTION IS NOT GOING TO LAST VERY LONG.

BECAUSE ONCE IT BECOMES SETTLED, IT'S SETTLED.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE BY NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL FIND OUT MAYBE.

EVERY TIME WE HAVE A VICTORY IN THIS LAP ON EITHER SIDE THEY ARE ALWAYS VERY SHORT-LIVED.

>> ANY REGRETS ON THE PART OF ABORTION-RIGHTS?

DO YOU WANT TO HELP DEMOCRATS LIKE SARAH BROWN?

>> I WILL JUST BE TO MY OWN VIEWS ON THAT SPECIFIC CLAIM.

LIKE, I DON'T REALLY BUY THAT BALLOT ISSUES SET.

THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD CHANGE FOR THEM WITHOUT THERE BEING CANDIDATES THAT THEY ARE COMPETING WITH, OR WERE YOU VOTE DEMOCRAT, OR VOTE REPUBLICAN.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY REGRET ON HOW THE DISCUSSION WENT.

>> IS THERE ANY PART OF YOU -- [ indiscernible - low volume ] >> LOOK AT HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON AUGUST.

I THINK THERE'LL BE THAT MUCH IF NOT MORE FOR THEM.

>> ALL RIGHT.

HOW MANY SIGNATURES DO WE NEED TO COLLECT TO WIN?

SUPPORTERS HAVE BECOME THE THE PROCESS OF INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING ON THE NEXT NOVEMBER BALLOT OF A 15 MEMBER COMMISSION REPUBLICANS, AND INDEPENDENCE.

SOME OF THEM WILL BE CHOSEN AT RANDOM.

LOBBYISTS AND BIG DONORS NEED NOT APPLY, IN THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO ELECT -- [ indiscernible -low volume ] WILL YOU BE AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION IF YOU GET ON THE BALLOT?

>> IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL POOL OF CANDIDATES FOR THE COMMISSION ARE GOING TO BE MADE UP OF.

IN MICHIGAN, YOU COULD APPLY, AND THEY HAD 8000.

THE NEXT STEP WAS SIMILAR TO THAT OF OHIO.

THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT SAID, OKAY, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WERE CHOSEN BY RANDOM.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT IS NECESSARY OR NOT.

HE'S A LITTLE PUNKY, AND THE SECOND OVERALL TWO YEARS LATER IT WORKED OUT MUCH BETTER.

I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.

>> IT TOOK US FIVE POINTS TO DESCRIBE IT ON TV WITH HOW IT WORKS.

THIS IS NOT EASY JUST BASED ON THE BALLOT.

>> YEAH, I THINK OUR CHIEF JUSTICE MARIA O'CONNOR, ALONG WITH THE DEMOCRATIC JUSTICE MICKEY BROWN, THE SPECIFICITY IS A FUNCTION, NOT AN ERROR OF THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE ANYTIME THERE WAS ANY ABORTION LANGUAGE OR QUESTIONABLE HOW YOU MY INTERPRETED, SOME INDIVIDUALS WERE ABLE TO DRAW THE DISTRICTS HOW THEY PLEASED.

SO, WE ARE TRYING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN ORDER TO PREVENT THAT, AND THE RESULT IS YOU HAVE A PRETTY COMPLEX PROCESS.

>> YEAH, AND THAT OPENS IT UP FOR FOLKS IN THE CAMPAIGN.

>> YEAH, FOR THIS TO BE ON THE BALLOT, IT'S LIKE POLITICIANS -- PUBLIC, NOT POLITICIANS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE VOTING ON.

IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME AT ALL IF YOU JUST PRINT THE ENTIRE LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT, OR EVEN HAVE AN EXTENDED SUMMARY OF IT TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME THING IF THEY WALK INTO THE BALLOT BOX AND THEY SEE A THREE PAGE X DONATION OF THE BALLOT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG CHALLENGE, MAKING THE MESSAGE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT >> PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER NOW -- >> GERRYMANDERING AND REDISTRICTING, IT'S STILL A PROCEDURAL THING THAT WE REALLY DON'T GET INTO THE WEEDS ON.

WE JUST FINISHED AN ELECTION WHERE THE PEOPLE'S VOICE MUST BE HEARD.

WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT 50 PLUS ONE.

THIS WILL ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE'S VOTES WILL NOT BE HEARD, AND ANY REDISTRICTING WILL NOT HELP.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE HAD THIS ON THE BALLOT.

40 YEARS AGO, THE OJAI REPUBLICAN PARTY HAD A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE ON THE BALLOT.

THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AT THAT TIME SAYING YOU CAN'T CUT PEOPLE OUT OF THE PROCESS.

AND THEY DEFEATED IT.

IT IS INTERESTING, THOUGH.

POLITICS CAN CHANGE.

>> THEY ARE GERRYMANDERING THEMSELVES.

>> YEAH.

WE HAD NO STATEWIDE OFFICES SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY AND I THINK HE FAILED TO CONVINCE ME.

BUT, DEMOCRATS HAD A CHANCE TO DO THIS BACK IN 2010.

OKAY, THAT IS ON US.

BUT IT'S NOW DIFFERENT WORRY OF HAD AN EXPERIENCE IN 2015 AND THE FAILED 2018 MEASURE IS NOT THE WORDING.

IT'S NOT THE AMENDMENT.

BUT, IT'S THE MANAGEMENT OF IT AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SUPREME COURT SETTING.

NO, YOU DID NOT DO YOUR JOB.

>> YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GET ON THE BALLOT, BUT IT'S STILL HARD TO GET ON THE BALLOT.

THERE'S BALLOT SIGNATURES FROM 44 COUNTIES.

>> YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF WHO SUGGESTED THIS PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE MANY GROUPS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT THEY HAD THE BENEFIT OF AND ENDORSEMENT FROM BOTH THE OHIO DEMOCRAT AND A REPUBLIC AND PARTIES.

I DON'T SEE HOW THAT HAPPENED FOR THIS MEASURE IN 2024.

>> IF THEY CAN MANAGE TO DEPOLITICIZE THIS, THE COALITION THAT -- I EXPECT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO REPORTING OF REDISTRICTING AMENDMENTS.

IF THEY CAN ROLL THAT OVER, WE WILL SEE IT IN THE COALITION.

>> YEAH, OKAY.

THE LAST TOPIC, VOTERS IN 2020 WANT TO REPRESENT THE OHIO SENATE FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS.

BROWN HOPES TO RETURN FOR A FOURTH TERM FOR A CHANCE TO UNSEAT HIM.

THIS WEEK, WE LEARNED THAT BERNIE MARINO HAVE A LOT MORE PERSONAL PROBLEMS THAN FRANKLIN ROSE AND IT IS CLOSE WITH HOW MUCH INCOME HE HAS.

LOOK AT THE FIGURES.

HE HAS A UP TO $41,000,000.00 SO, IT'S OVER.

BERNIE MARINO ONE.

>> THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SPEND THEIR PERSONAL MONEY -- HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE -- RAN AGAINST SHARON FIVE YEARS AGO IN 2018.

HE HAD 40, I THINK, 45 MILLION?

AND HE DID NOT SPEND ANYTHING IF AT ALL OF HIS PERSONAL MONEY, AND IT SHOWED IN HIS CAMPAIGN.

HE DID NOT HAVE A VERY VISIBLE CAMPAIGN.

BUT, IF THESE GUYS WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY, IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT.

I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WITH MATT DOLAN AND BERNIE MARINO, UNLIKE FRANKLIN ROSE, THEY BRANDON THE PRIMARY LAST YEAR THEY HAVEN'T RUN STATEWIDE IN AN ELECTION.

BUT FRANK HAS.

DOING STUFF FOR THE JURY AND STATE.

SO, HE'S GOT A PRETTY GOOD NAME.

THE OTHERS DON'T.

THEY NEED THAT MONEY.

>> TO BE FAIR, SHARON BROWN HAS -- [ indiscernible -low volume ] >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT THE CANDIDATE HERE?

I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT -- OTHER THAN BEING THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BUT ON PAPER, THEY ARE IMPRESSIVE.

THE ONLY THING THAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE MOST IS THE TRUMP ISSUE.

IT'S STARTING TO SHOW WHO IS THE MOST TRUMP.

AND THEN, WILL MONEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN ALL OF THAT?

I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

>> YEAH, MONEY WILL NOT MAKE AS BIG OF A DIFFERENCE IF TRUMP JUMPS IN AND DOESN'T ENDORSE ANYONE.

WE SAW THAT LAST YEAR.

HE TOTALLY GOT ENDORSED.

>> HE SEPARATED HIMSELF FROM HIS SPOKESPERSON, BECAUSE THE SPOKESPERSON HAD A COUPLE OF TWEETS CRITICIZING DONALD TRUMP HE GOT CUT LOOSE.

HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE TRUMP VOTE RIGHT THERE.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT HE IS A TRACK RECORD, LIKE MOST REPUBLICANS DO, CITING WITH TRUMP.

THERE IS THE ADDED PRESSURE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE HE GOT PICKED UP IN THE MEDIA PRETTY BROADLY.

FRANKLIN ROSEN'S PRESS SECRETARY SHOWS THE LENGTHS TO WHICH PEOPLE LIKE FRANKLIN ROSE WILL GO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF HE EXPECTS TO GET DONALD TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT, BUT I'M SURE THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TRUMP GETTING FLAMED BY A MEAN TWEET OR SOMETHING LIKE SO, IT'S A VERY STRANGE DYNAMIC.

HEADING OVER THE HEAD OF A PRIMARY IS THE TRUMP FACTOR.

>> IS IT CAUSING SOME OHIOANS TO THINK TWICE ABOUT IT?

>> I THINK TRUMP IS PRETTY BAKED IN.

IF YOU SUPPORT HIM, YOU WILL VOTE REGARDLESS OF THESE AMENDMENTS, AND THERE ARE THE UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT LEAD TO THE INDICTMENTS THAT ARE QUALIFYING AND CONTINUE TO BE THERE.

OUR CURRENT SENATOR HAS ENDORSED BERNIE MARINO, SO, THAT MIGHT BE A FORETELLING OF WHAT FOLKS WILL DO.

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE OFF THE RECORD PARTY SHOTS.

>> IS THE MOST EXCLUSIVELY SPEAKING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

I WAS SHOCKED HERE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF WEST VIRGINIA.

THEY ARE ELIMINATING THEIR ENTIRE FOREIGN-LANGUAGE PROGRAM.

HOPEFULLY, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BLEED ONTO THE OHIO STATE.

>> THAT WAS A $45,000,000.00 DEFICIT.

>> GUESS WHAT?

YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

IT HAS GOT TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE ONLY GOOD FOR THE 2022 RACE, AND THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

THEY HAVE A MID-FILING DEADLINE.

>> STILL GOING BACK TO THE FINANCIALS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THERE WAS A LOT OF MUTUAL FUNDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BERNIE MARINO'S PAST $25,000,000.00 HOUSE IN THE BAHAMAS -- HE HAS SOME PRETTY INTERESTING THINGS IN HIS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE.

>> WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SECRETARY OF STATE, AND GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

SO, USUALLY, THE WISDOM IS DON'T TWEET.

>> AMEN.

I SHAN'T TWEET.

I'M OFF TWITTER.

I'M STILL THERE, BUT I'M NOT THERE.

IT WILL TEND TO GO TO THE PERSON HE THINKS CAN WIN.

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