Columbus on the Record
Ohio Still Lags In COVID-19 Vaccination Rates
Season 16 Episode 34 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Despite the Vax-A-Million, Ohio still lags in COVID-19 vaccination rates.
Ohio's lagging vaccination rates despite the Vax-A-Million prizes, the end of most COVID-19 health mandates in Ohio, Columbus hires a new police chief; the latest in the 2022 campaigns for governor and U.S. Senate and other topics. This week's panelists include, Anna Staver, statehouse reporter for The Columbus Dispatch, Sam Gresham of Common Cause Ohio and Mark Weaver, Republican Strategist.
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Columbus on the Record
Ohio Still Lags In COVID-19 Vaccination Rates
Season 16 Episode 34 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Ohio's lagging vaccination rates despite the Vax-A-Million prizes, the end of most COVID-19 health mandates in Ohio, Columbus hires a new police chief; the latest in the 2022 campaigns for governor and U.S. Senate and other topics. This week's panelists include, Anna Staver, statehouse reporter for The Columbus Dispatch, Sam Gresham of Common Cause Ohio and Mark Weaver, Republican Strategist.
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>> JOINING US ON COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD THIS WEEK, A STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OHIO IS ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY.
COVID CASES ARE DOWN >>> DESPITE VAX-A-MILLION OHIO STILL LAGS IN VACCINATION RATES.
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>> JOINING US ON COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD THIS WEEK, SAM GRESHAM.
A STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH AND REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OHIO IS ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY.
COVID CASES ARE DOWN AS ARE DEATHS AND HOSPITALIZATIONS.
THE NOT SO GOOD NEWS IS THAT OTHER STATES ARE MOVING MORE QUICKLY DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF VACCINE ACCEPTANCE.
OHIO'S VACCINATION RATE IS LITERALLY, MEH.
HERE IS WHERE WE STAND.
THESE STATES LEAD THE WAY, VERMONT, MAINE, MASSACHUSETTS RANK ONE, TWO THREE IN THE NATION.
MORE THAN HALF OF THE TOTAL POPULATION THERE IS FULLY VACCINATED.
IN THE MIDWEST, WISCONSIN RANKS 17th NATIONALLY WITH 45%.
IOWA AT 44%.
MICHIGAN AT 24 WITH 42%, AND WE ARE BEHIND THEM, 25th OUT OF 50 AT 40%.
MISSISSIPPI RANKS LAST.
S IT FAMILIAR SPOT, WITH 2% FULLY VACCINATED.
THIS WEEK A 40-YEAR-OLD MAN FROM TOLEDO RECENTLY VACCINATED WON THE VAX-A-MILLION LOTTERY AND EXACTLY THE AGE GROUP THAT NEEDS TO GET THE SHOT.
>> WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE GET TO SLOWING THIS DOWN EVEN MORE AND GET TO THE BIGGER NUMBERS, IT IS THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.
IT IS THOSE BASICALLY UNDER 50.
THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE BIGGEST ROOM TO GROW.
>> FOLKS THAT HAD THE MOST VULNERABLE TO COVID, THEY SEEM TO BE DOING WELL.
MOST OF THEM ARE VACCINATED.
IT IS THE NEXT GROUP DOWN, MIDDLE AGED AND YOUNGER THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO GET VACCINATED.
>> YEAH.
MY AGE BRACKET.
BUT I THINK SOME OF IT IS JUST A QUESTION OF TIME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAN FROM TOLEDO WHO WON THE VAX-A-MILLION.
HE SAID THAT I WORK FOR AMAZON.
I AM TIRED WHEN I GET HOME.
I HAVE A 4 MONTH OLD AND KIDS AND HOUSEHOLD OBLIGATIONS.
HE FOUND OUT THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLAR GIVEAWAY, HE DECIDED TO GET IT.
I THINK THEY SEE AS A NICE TO HAVE BUT NOT A NEED TO HAVE.
NOT OPPOSED TO THE VACCINE BUT DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WILL KILL THEM IF THEY GET IT.
OTHER THINGS WE SEE ARE COMPANIES OFFERING PAID DAYS OFF.
THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL.
OFFICE CLINICS.
ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVE THAT PUSHES PEOPLE ACROSS THE THRESHOLD.
THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN TOUTING THAT IN THE WEEKS BEFORE VAX-A-MILLION STARTED THERE WAS A 25% DROP OFF IN 16 OR OLDER VACCINATIONS BUT SINCE THEN 28% INCREASE.
SO, HE IS CALLING IT A WHIM.
THEY MUST THINK HE IS ON TO SOMETHING.
>> SEEMS PRETTY INNOVATIVE.
OHIO IS ONE OF THE FIRST STATES TO OPEN UP THE VACCINES TO OTHER PEOPLE.
I HAD RELATIVES IN MASSACHUSETTS IN THEIR LATE 7 0Z.
MY CHILDREN IN THE EARLY 20s GOT THE VACCINE BEFORE THEY DID BUT MASSACHUSETTS LOOPED AHEAD OF US.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON?
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT SEEMS.
>> PART OF IT IS DRIVEN BY THE AGE.
BUT THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNOR DID WITH THE VAX-A-MILLION, THE LOTTERY LINED UP NICELY WITH THOSE THAT ARE THOSE MOST AVERSE TO GETTING THE VACCINE.
IT IS ADDRESSING DIRECTLY THE SORT OF FOLKS THAT NEED TO GET THE VACCINE.
I THINK WE ARE SEEING OTHER STATES WANTING TO COPY WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE.
IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY.
I THINK SOME OF THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO EVEN OUT.
WE WILL LOOK BACK ON THE PERIOD AND YOU WILL SEE OHIO LEADS THE NATION IN HOW IT HANDLED THIS.
>> YOU HAD THREE WEEKS LEFT.
YOU HAVE THREE DRAWINGS LEFT.
TWHAPS AFTER IT IS OVER.
DO WE NEED TO BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I GIVE THE GOVERNOR CREDIT.
THIS IS UNIQUE AND IT IS WORKING AND IT IS GETTING NEEDLES IN ARMS.
THE BATTLE HAS BEEN FOUGHT AND HE WON.
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE, COMEDIANS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND HE WON.
I GIVE HIM KUDOS.
>> TO THE FOLKS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THEY WERE RELUCTANT TO GET THE VACCINES.
AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE ONE GROUP THAT WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO GET THE VACCINE.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN YOUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT AND ARE FOLKS WILLING TO GET THE SHOT?
>> VAX-A-MILLION SOLVED THAT.
NOT A PROBLEM ANYMORE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE SHOT-IN-THE-ARM AS SOON AS THEY CAN.
IT IS TARGETED TO A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IN THAT IS A LARGE GROUP OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
THE POOL IS SMALLER IN THE LOTTERY SO THEY HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THIS THAN THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH IT AND GAVE THE GOVERNOR KUDOS FOR BEING ORIGINAL, INNOVATIVE, ALL OF THAT.
NOTHING MEAN TO SAY ABOUT IT.
IT IS THE SBKTS WHO WERE POUNDING IT IN THE GROUND LIKE IT IS STUPID.
>> THOSE AREAS THAT VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP.
DO YOU SEE THAT GOING AWAY AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE GET IT AND DON'T SEE THE SIDE-EFFECTS.
DO YOU SEE THE POLITICS BECOMING LESS OF A FACTOR WITH THIS?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK HERD IMMUNITY WILL BE BUILT UP IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
WHETHER YOU ARE VACCINATED OR WHETHER YOU HAVE COVID.
THE PLANS MOVE TOWARDS HERD IMMUNITY.
THIS WOULD BE LIKE A BATTLESHIP STARTING TO SINK.
IT IS SLOWLY STARTING TO GO AND GO FASTER AND FASTER AND I MEAN THAT THE PROBLEM OF VACCINATION IS LARGELY GOING TO BE THROUGH BY LABOR DAY.
PROBABLY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO REACH HERD IMMUNITY.
>> THE FIRST FEW DAYS WITH REALLY NO STATE HEALTH MANDATES.
THERE ARE SOME STILL IN EFFECT.
NO MASK MANDATES, NO CAPACITY LIMITS ON RESTAURANTS OR PLACES OF MASS GATHERINGS.
AT THE STATEHOUSE, I ASSUME THEY ARE RELIEVED THAT HAS PASSED AND THE TENSION BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE AND THE SMRGZ GONE FOR NOW?
>> I THINK THEY DID FILE TO END THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER A FEW HOURS BEFORE HE ANNOUNCED IT.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A HANDFUL OF LAWMAKERS BUT THAT IS INTEROFFICE POLITICS.
I THINK PEOPLE FEEL A LITTLE STRANGE LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE PRESS CORPS.
THE SENATE PRESIDENT WHEN HE MADE HIS PRESENTATION ON THE BUDGET RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE THE OTHER DAY WITH MY KIDS.
I THINK 50% OF PEOPLE WERE STILL MASKED IN THE STORE.
I THINK IT MAYBE DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LIVE AND HOW YOU FEEL AND YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE SAW BURNING MASKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL WEARING THEM TO OTHERS THAT ARE NOT ANYMORE.
MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS ON THE LEGISLATURE ARE NOT WEARING THEM ANYMORE.
>> WE ARE SO USED TO WEARING MASKS.
I STILL PUT IT ON AT THE GROCERY STORE OR RESTAURANT.
TAKE IT OFF.
>> I THINK IT IS A HABIT.
>> YEAH.
>> I JOKED THE OTHER DAY I AM LIKE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SEE IT.
>> YEAH.
>> NO.
I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR NEW NORMAL LOOKS LIKE AS WE EMERGE FROM THE PANDEMIC.
>> A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE I GUESS.
THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS A NEW POLICE CHIEF AFTER A YEAR OF PROTESTS.
THE DEATH OF THREE AFRICAN-AMERICANS ATTHE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF WILL TAKE OVER THE COLUMBUS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN TO HOLD THE POST AND THE FIRST CHIEF HIRED FROM OUTSIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT.
>> THE PAST HISTORY IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT AS THE CHANGE IN CULTURE OF POLICING THAT WE WILL MAKE TOGETHER.
TO REBUILD TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO KEEP COLUMBUS NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.
>> WE SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID TELEVISION.
I DO NOT LIVE MY LIFE IN FEAR.
I WILL NOT LEAD THIS DIVISION IN FEAR.
COPS COUNT AND LEADERSHIP MATTERS.
>> SHE COMES FROM A BIG CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CHOICE?
>> COLUMBUS IS ABOUT TO POP.
THIS YOUNG LADY HAS MORE POP THAN POPCORN HAS.
GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT STEP IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU GOT A LITTLE BLACK WOMAN WHO IS NOW THE POLICE CHIEF.
THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE.
IT IS AN EXPERIMENT OF EXPERIMENT.
BLACK FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN REVERED IN COLUMBUS POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING BACK TO CHIEF JACKSON, THE SAFETY DIRECTORS THAT WE HAD.
THIS IS ANYING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT IS A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS, BLACK PEOPLE AND A WOMAN.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE EXPERIMENT WORKS OUT.
THE MAYOR IS IN A CORNER.
HE HAS TO SUPPORT HER.
THE FINAL THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT SHE HAS AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION FROM DETROIT SAYING SHE IS A COMMUNITY PERSON.
GETS INVOLVED WITH ACTIVITIES.
THE COMMUNITY WILL KNOW HER NAME.
SHE WILL NOT HIDE UNDER HER BADGE.
IT WILL BE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> THE NEW INCOMING CHIEF SAYS THAT SHE HAS TO BUILD TRUST WITH OFFICERS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY.
HOW DOES SHE BUILD TRUST WITH THOSE GROUPS SIMULTANEOUSLY?
>> YEAH.
CERTAINLY I DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT -- I WILL SAY THERE IS A CRISIS OF CONFIDENCE IN THE COLUMBUS POLICE DIVISION.
WHEN SUBURBAN OPENINGS COME UP, MORE THAN 100 CPD OFFICERS ARE APPLYING TO GET OUT.
THE CITY IS IN A TOUGH TIME RIGHT NOW.
NUMBERS ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID.
PEOPLE ARE LEAVING TO GO TO THE SUBURBS.
CRIME IS ON THE INCREASE.
OFFICERS ARE UNHAPPY.
I DO NOT ENVY THE TASK THIS WOMAN WILL BE INHERITING.
>> THE FIRST OUTSIDER, YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD.
SHE DOES NOT COME IN THERE AND SHE CAN START FRESH.
SHE DOES NOT HAVE ALLIANCES OR FEUDS WITH CURRENT OFFICERS BUT PEOPLE WILL VIEW HER WEARILY.
>> YEAH.
THEY INTERVIEWED A BLACK POLICE OFFICER WHO SAID IT WAS A SIGN THE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO A CHANGE BUT OTHERS ARE WORRIED SHE COULD BE SET UP TO FAIL AND DEPEND END ON HOW THE MAYOR AND CITY WOULD SUPPORT HER IN THE MONTHS AND WEEKS AHEAD.
I THINK THAT DESCRIBES THE TIGHTROPE SHE WILL HAVE TO WALK AS SHE FIGURES OUT WHAT TYPE OF A POLICE CHIEF SHE WANTS TO BE HERE AND AS SHE DISCOVERS THE CITY.
SHE IS MOVING FROM OUT OF STATE.
IT WILL TAKE TIME TO LEARN THE PEOPLE AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND PLACES.
>> THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT A CHANGE IN CULTURE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEED A CHANGE IN CULTURE AND CAN SHE BE THE VEHICLE TO DO IT?
>> YEAH.
THIS YEAR WE ALREADY KILLED EIGHT SEVEN BLACK MEN AND A WOMAN.
DID YOU REALIZE THAT COLUMBUS WAS 115th IN THE COUNTRY FOR KILLINGS AND WE HAVE BEEN KILLING BLACK PEOPLE FOR A THOUSAND YEARS IN THE CITY.
THEY DO HAVE A PROBLEM.
THEY DO NEED TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM.
HOW CAN YOU HAVE A MAN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAS 89 COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM.
BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING HIM TO HIM.
YEAH.
THEY DO HAVE A PROBLEM.
NOW, TO ADD TO THE QUESTION, DIRECTLY, IT IS AN EXPERIMENT AND THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO SUPPORT HER.
BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO TEST HER AND FIGHT WITH HER AND CREATE OBSTACLES FOR HER.
AND I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS A LITTLE BLACK/WHITE OVER THERE UNTIL THINGS UNDERWAY.
I SAW GUN FIGHTS IN THE LOCKER ROOMS IN THE COLUMBUS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
DON'T TELL ME EVERYBODY LOVES EVERYBODY BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TRUE.
>> YOU DID WORK WITH THE FOP IN YOUR ROLE AS A STRATEGIST.
DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEED A CULTURE CHANGE?
>> NO.
I DON'T THINK SO.
THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE A RECESS BIAS.
THEY DON'T.
SOME OF IT IS OFTEN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THESE ARE DIFFICULT JOBS.
THE NOTION OF SECOND GUESSING POLICE OFFICERS WHILE WORKING FOR LOW PAY AND A DANGEROUS JOB AND WANTING TO PUT THEM IN PRISON, THIS WILL DRIVE GOOD PEOPLE OUT OF POLICING AND IT WILL MAKE COLUMBUS MORE DANGEROUS.
THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THE MOST HURT SADLY WILL BE AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT.
SPEAKING OF MONTHS TO COME, THE 2020, 2022 CAMPAIGN IS STILL IN THE FORMATIVE STAGE.
GOVERNOR AND U.S. SENATE IS YET COMPLETE.
CINCINNATI INQUIRER REPORTED THE MAYOR OF THE CITY PLANS TO RUN AGAINST THE DAYTON MAYOR IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR.
THE RACE FOR SENATE, WE ARE WAITING TO SEE IF J.D.
VANCE WILL JUMP IN.
JOSH MENDLE HAS LOST A FEW FUNDRAISERS ACCORDING TO THE CLUMD BUS DISPATCH.
IS THAT A SIGN OF TROUBLE THAT THREE FUNDRAISERS LEFT THIS EARLY IN THE CAMPAIGN?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
THERE IS NOT A TURNOVER RATE IN CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS.
PEOPLE ARE STAFFING UP.
HE HAS ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY.
HAVING SAID THAT WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT WHO IS GOING TO COME OUT.
WHEN IT IS A ONE-ON-ONE, THOSE ARE EASY PREDICTIONS TO MAKE.
WHEN YOU HAVE MANY CANDIDATES, AND I AM NOT SURE WE HAVE SEEN THEM ALL YET.
>> IF J.D.
VANCE WOULD ENTER, HE WOULD WANT TO SPLIT THE SO-CALLED TRUMP VOTE.
DO YOU SEE HIM ENTERING THE RACE?
>> I THINK HE WILL.
YOU CAN'T IGNORE ANYONE CAN A $10 MILLION SUPER PAC INVESTMENT ALREADY SUPPORTING HIM.
MORE RECENT ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE TECH INDUSTRY HURT HIM WITH RANK IN FILE REPUBLICANS.
THEY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIGHTROPE TO WALK AND I THINK HE WILL GET IN.
WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY OPEN UP, THE PERSON WILL TEND TO BE THERE FOR AT LEAST A FEW TERMS UNLESS HE WANTS TO RUN IN A FEW YEARS.
>> GRESHAM, A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR.
>> ANYTHING THAT BRINGS DEMOCRATS OUT.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THIS OFF-SEASON IS NOT GOING TO BE THE TRADITIONAL ONE.
THERE IS TOO MUCH FLOATING AROUND IN THE AIR AND IN THE COUNTRY.
THE SENATE, I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE AN IDLE CONVERSATION.
PEOPLE ARE BEING ORGANIZED.
THERE WILL BE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE STATE ORGANIZING TO GET THE SEAT.
IF THE REPUBLICANS SLEEP AND IF THEY THINK IT WILL BE AN OFF ELECTION, IT IS NOT.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TURNING OUT PEOPLE LIKE IN THE GENERAL.
ONE OF THE DAYS WE ARE GOING TO TURN OUT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO WIN ONE OF THESE.
WHAT 43 STATES ARE DOING ON VOTING RIGHTS IS MAKING BLACK PEOPLE ANGRY.
BLACK PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER SLEEPING ANYMORE.
THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY ANGRY.
EVERY PLACE THAT I GO.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TRYING TO TURN US OUT.
THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP US FROM VOTING.
WE SUSPECT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN COLUMBUS AND IN OHIO.
WE ARE ANGRY.
>> TO GENERATE SUPPORT AMONG DEMOCRATS, A PHRASE FROM THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, SHE IS JUST TARGETING WHAT THE FIRST ENERGY, THE BAILOUT STORY.
TRYING TO USE IT AS HER MESSAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN.
SHE THINKS THAT IS ENOUGH.
>> YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DID NOT PAN OUT IN OHIO.
I HEARD FROM STATE PARTY OFFICIALS WHO HAVE SAID THEY DID NOT DO IT RIGHT OR EFFECTIVELY.
I THINK HE IS TRYING TO STICK TO THAT.
DEWINE DOES NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO GET RID OF HIM.
BUT YOU KNOW HE COULD HAVE TIES TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THIS INVESTIGATION I THINK IT WILL IN THE PRIMARY BUT I AM UPON NOT SURE ABOUT THE GENERAL.
I THINK DEWINE IS A POPULAR GOVERNOR.
MODERATE APPEAL.
HE WAS PRO-MASK.
PRO STAY AT HOME ORDERS.
HIS HANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC SORT OF DIFFERED FROM OTHER REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS AND I THINK IT DREW A LOT OF CROSSOVER APPEAL.
THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR DAN.
THEY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE WHICH IS UNLIKELY OR HOLD THEIR NOSE AND VOTE FOR DEWINE.
>> I MENTIONED THE 92 CAMPAIGN.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT IN 91 NOBODY THOUGHT GEORGE H.W.
BUSH COULD BE BEATEN AND HE WAS BEATEN.
MIKE DEWINE HAD GREAT SUCCESS.
PRETTY GOOD HANDLING OF THE COVID PANDEMIC.
BUT IF THAT IS ENDING NOW AND THE ELECTION IS A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY COULD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO HIM IF THE BAIL OUT AND CORRUPTION STORY TAKES HOLD?
>> BUSH WAS A GREAT MAN AND GREAT LEADER BUT NEVER A GREAT POLITICIAN.
IT WILL BE HARD FOR DEMOCRATS TO MAKE THE CORRECTION CASE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT BACKDOOR DEALS WERE MADE.
AND THE HEAD OF THE PRISON FROM CINCINNATI, A PRISON BUS IN THE CITIES -- WE ARE SEEING OTHER INDICTMENTS COMING IN FROM THE LOCAL CORRUPTION AROUND THE CITY HALLS.
THAT WILL BE A DIFFICULT CASE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO MAKE.
>> HOW DO THEY RESPOND TO THAT, PARTICULARLY TO THE DAYTON ISSUES?
>> THEY SAID THEY DID AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT AT THE TIME AND THAT THEY CREATED AN INVESTIGATIVE COMMISSION AND THEY LOOKED IN TO IT AND THIS IS SOMETHING SHE CALLED ON DEWINE TO DO AND IF ELECTED SHE WOULD CRETE A BIPARTISAN COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE STATEHOUSE AND WHAT WE COULD CHANGE AND INSTITUTE NEW RULES FOR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS HAD TO FIGHT TO GET EVEN THE REPORT ON THE AUDIT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING YEAR AND A HALF.
WE ARE A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AWAY FROM THE MAY PRIMARY FOR 2022.
>> MAY I ADD TO THAT?
>> 30 SECONDS.
>> DEMOCRATS, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE MORE ACTIVITY IN THE STATE THAN YOU HAVE SEEN FOR A WHILE.
>> THAT IS A PREVIEW OF THE FINAL SHOTS.
>> THE OFF YEAR ELECTIONS TEND TO FAVOR THE PARTY WHO IS NOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE MEANING REPUBLICANS ARE LIKELY TO WIN BACK THE CONGRESS IN 2022.
BUT THEY ARE SOLD OUT.
THEY ARE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.
ONE SMALL COUNTY HAD 150 PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THEIR LINCOLN DAY.
THE LEVEL OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE SO STRONG IT WILL ADD AND BE A BOOST FOR REPUBLICANS.
>> THIS IS A REFLECTION YEAR FOR THIS COUNTRY AND FOR THE STATE.
WHAT NORMALLY HAVE BEEN THE PATTERNS WILL NO LONGER BE THE PATTERN.
PEOPLE HAVE WOKEN UP.
YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE ENERGY.
>> I AM GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE BIG BONUSES FOR FRONTLINE WORKERS.
AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN LETS WORKER WORKERS DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND NOW OHIO IS HAVING A FIGHT IN THE LEGISLATURE OVER WHO DESERVES WHAT.
SHOULD IT BE TEACHERS, NURSES, DOCTORS.
HERE IS THE QUESTION I KEEP ASKING MYSELF.
IF I WERE IN CONTROL OF THIS WHO WOULD I GIVE THE HEROES TAKE TO?
>> YOU DON'T WANT IT.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU FOOTBALL WILL BE BACK TO FULL CAPACITY.
TICKETS WENT ON SALE THIS WEEK.
THE FIRST GAUGE OF HOW COMFORTABLE PEOPLE ARE TO PACK INTO A STADIUM OF 100,000 FANS.
WE WILL SEE IF FANS ARE GETTING BACK TO SEE THE BUCKEYES.
THAT IS COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD THIS WEEK.
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