Our Land: New Mexico’s Environmental Past, Present and Future
Oil and Gas Industry Reform
Season 7 Episode 15 | 12m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
The possibility of oil and gas industry reform in this year's Legislative Session.
In the final segment of the conversation, guests talk about the possibility of oil and gas industry reform in this year’s Legislative Session.
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Our Land: New Mexico’s Environmental Past, Present and Future
Oil and Gas Industry Reform
Season 7 Episode 15 | 12m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
In the final segment of the conversation, guests talk about the possibility of oil and gas industry reform in this year’s Legislative Session.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipall right we are back let's talk about the legislative session right now like basically like as we're taping this this legislator is starting to consider House Bill 133 to amend the oil and gas act to do things like increase bonds for well cleanup and plugging and increase civil penalties Josie does this bill as it is right now does it go far enough um as of right now I think that this bill could use a lot of amendments something we've been talking about a lot is public public health and so something important for public health would be setbacks we're really hoping for a mile setback from schools and Facilities is something that would be important another thing I think matters a lot especially to areas like the peran and to the San Juan Basin is to ban the use of fresh water and fracking this water is becoming toxic waste and you know this is a state where we do struggle with our water and I think it's so important that we make sure to care for and conserve our water Daniel what would you like like to see in a bill I guess uh number one uh the administration basically locked the plaintiffs out of even participating in the leadup to this particular Bill the discussion started back in September and we didn't hear I for myself didn't hear about it till December and when we tried to get access to the the zoom links we were denied and so that aspect it really excluded um our group from the Northwest area to where um the allotment owners that are within the plaintiff group were locked out and it's in in in in in that aspect we are a direct user of this new um bill that would uh hopefully get adopted but yes the um it's very important that the setbacks um be uh included as an amendment a mile we conducted a health impact assessment with uh Navajo lens uh kbis and in that aspect we um the research found through all the um data that uh there was high methane and different forms of propane being emitted from these oil and gas facilities that are above ground and in this case uh within a city block of uh libr Elementary School where 80 Navajo students K in the grades kindergarten through the 8th the majority of them wear or use um inhalers and so that's the reason we want a one mile setback and it's it's and and I guess in one way the governor is saying let's give money so that the children can be literate establish literacy Institute but then the governor is supporting hb1 133 and there's no inclusion for the sitb back so these young same Young Folks need a healthy and safe classroom to do their learning and that's one of the uh I guess conflicting ideologies in this political Arena right now yeah I remember reporting on Li Brook Elementary years ago and wondering how kids can learn when there's a well right across the street and now generations of children have gone to that school it's it's astonishing that as a state we don't have setbacks yes and Laura there's 32,000 children in our state who are going to school within a mile of a fracking site sometimes within uh a mile of many many fracking sites dozens if not a hundred um and the like setback Provisions were in that bill House Bill 1 33 not strong ones but there was something in there and even those got stripped out and we have been urging this Administration to at least put in a setback just around schools and a setback is it's a health buffer zone right to keep production away from where people go to school there should be setbacks around where people live work but at the very least we should be able to protect our children when they're in school yeah yeah so I feel like um as we've become increasingly aware of the emergency that climate change is we're seeing more impacts the state legislature has become increasingly lackluster on climate legislation um and you know for eight years of the Martinez Administration there was the excuse that if we passed legislation she would just veto it there's not a sensibly that excuse anymore um am I wrong on this am I not giving the legislature the due that they deserve on climate change I just want to say that our lawsuit isn't just about climate change our lawsuit is primarily about the current health and uh impacts to our land our waser and to Public Health and since that constitutional amendment was passed in 1971 where the state got this constitution duty to control pollution the state hasn't taken action to control oil and gas pollution the legislature hasn't passed legislation to do that and so this is not about any one Administration this is about a long history in our state of not adequately regulating the oil and gas industry and it has become particularly acute because in this current Administration oil and gas production has doubled and so the amount of pollution has likewise increased dramatically right um so I I'll stop there and let others jump in yeah well Josie I would be interested um can I ask how old you are I'm 22 22 so how do you feel like are lawmakers helping young people failing young people and how do you wish that older Generations were more helpful to your generation as you're trying to protect these places um you know I think when it comes to lawmakers and especially older Generations I think they have a sense that everything is fine because things were fine decades ago when they were young and I would really like them to kind of catch up and see the situation we're living in I also want them to understand that the world they're leaving behind they're not just leaving behind they're leaving it behind for their children their grandchildren and future Generations they're leaving us a mess that we're not going to be able to fix because of their negligence the peran Basin is a super methane emitter and what we call a climate bomb and I think it's unacceptable that we're just being left with something considered a climate bomb and you know there's no answers it's just kind of well this works today and this works tomorrow so good luck in 20 years right um Daniel I'd love for you to have final words here what do you really wish that other New Mexicans better understood about what's happening what we need to do well number one is you know we're all here on the earth when it comes to different segments of the population we all need water we all need air clean water clean air so that we don't encounter health issues the health issues is what's going to drive the legislature to find fund Health Care in the future if we don't start reducing the methane Cloud that exists over the four corners and and this morning we heard people say it's not backed up by science but guess what we we have researchers that use the CDC protocols to to conduct their research breathing of methane we find that that it affects the endocrine endocrine system and affects babies women and especially the older women and and and so no segment of the population is safe when we have these aspects of pollution of this degradation of the environment nobody is safe from it and and that's the part that I think uh the citizens of New Mexico have to realize um there's higher rates of cancer in in those in in in our area u a community health representative participated in our hiia she basically says we have cancer increasing among the women and and so as um an an older person I have two daughters seven grandchildren and I sure would want them to have a good life a good life having good health in in the um aspect of the general Society the term health is wealth is is something that we grew up with and right now we're affecting the health and certainly um keeping people in poverty or I mean when one gets hospitalized a lot of the funds that normally would go for the everyday living expenses goes to health care and and the Health Care system is very um the healthcare workers are bombarded with all the things that are coming at them right now and so uh one can't say oh it doesn't bother me it it will thank you thank you Daniel thank you all I will look forward to seeing what happens with the session and certainly with the LA suit thank you thank you thank you

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