>> COMING UP TONIGHT: WE HEAD TO FLYNNSTONED, SYRACUSE'S FIRST LEGAL CANNABIS DISPENSARY.

THEN WE HEAD BACK TO THE SYRACUSE HANCOCK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TO EXPLORE THE OPENING OF THEIR GLYCOL RECYCLING CENTER.

AND FOR OUR SPOTLIGHT SERIES, WE TALK ABOUT THE NEWEST CRAZE WITH VEHICLES - GOING ELECTRIC ♪ ♪ GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ON THE MONEY, WCNY'S FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM - THINK OF IT AS YOUR LOCAL FINANCIAL NEWS PROGRAM FEATURING SOME INTERESTING PEOPLE, BUSINESSES AND HAPPENINGS FROM EVERY CORNER OF CENTRAL NEW YORK.

I'M YOUR HOST, LAIZA SEMIDEY.

DURING OUR SEASON WE'LL SEE WHERE MONEY IS BEING MADE, SPENT AND SOMETIMES LOST AND FOCUS ON PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES AFFECTING US LOCALLY.

OUR FIRST REPORT KEEPS US RIGHT HERE IN SYRACUSE.

ON MARCH 31, 2021 NEW YORK STATE LEGALIZED ADULT-USE CANNABIS BY PASSING THE MARIJUANA REGULATION AND TAXATION ACT.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE ABOUT 27 REGULATED AND LICENSED DISPENSARIES OPEN IN NEW YORK STATE, AND ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT HERE IN SYRACUSE.

CHECK OUT HOW MIKE FLYNN, OWNER OF FLYNNSTONED BECAME THE FIRST TO OPEN AND OPERATE A LICENSED CANNABIS DISPENSARY DOWNTOWN!

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ IN 2020 IS WHEN I ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED FLYNNSTONEED ACROSS THE STREET.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A SMALL BOUTIQUE DISPENSARY IN DOWNTOWN, AND THEN I ENDED UP PULLING THE TRIGGER ON THIS BECAUSE URBAN OUTFITTERS PULLED OUT.

START TO FINISH IT TOOK A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING.

TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE IT IS AT WAS $3.3 MILLION.

MONEY I ACCUMULATED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITH MY OTHER BUSINESSES.

OUR FIRS MONTH IN, WE DID JUST UNDER $2.5 MILLION IN SALES.

TO DATE WE ARE JUST OVER $4 MILLION AND OPEN A MONTH AND A HALF.

I'M NOT ONLY MEETING THE FINANCIAL EXPECTATIONS BUT DOUBLING IT.

I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE IT IS NOW.

IT IS A BIG BUZZ.

I'M SURE THE SALES NUMBERS WILL GO DOWN EVENTUALLY.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IS THREE LOCATIONS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE MAXED OUT.

EVERYTHING IN THIS BUSINESS WAS CASH BECAUSE THE BANKS WOULDN'T WORK WITH ME BECAUSE CANNABIS IS STILL FEDERALLY ILLEGAL.

ONE TOUGH PROBLEM THAT WE ARE HAVING IS TRANSPORTING THIS CASH.

IT HAS TO BE PICKED UP FROM AN ARMORED CAR WHICH HAS TO DRIVE IT ALL THE WAY TO NEW JERSEY.

WE ARE GETTING CHARGED A LOT OF MONEY.

SINCE CANNABIS IS NEARLY LEGAL IN NEW YORK STATE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL ON THE OTHER SIDE.

I REALLY HOPE PEOPLE WILL GET AWAY FROM THE STIGMA OF IT BEING ILLEGAL.

IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD JUST KIND OF LOOK AT IT AS A POSITIVE BECAUSE IT REALLY IS.

THERE ARE SO MANY HEALTH BEN IF ITS THAT CANNABIS HAS AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A PLACE THAT YOU CAN COME AND ACTUALLY LEARN ABOUT AND BE EDUCATED ON THE CANNABIS, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP LOOKING AT IT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

AND THAT STIGMA WILL HOPEFULLY GO AWAY.

>> THE STATE IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE REGULATIONS.

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUY UP TO THREE OUNCES HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

MOST STATES ARE ONE OUNCE SO THAT'S PRETTY HUGE.

WE ARE STILL WAITING ON THEM TO PASS THE REGULATIONS FOR THE CONSUMPTION END OF THINGS.

HOPEFULLY THE STATE'S FIRST CONSUMPTION LODGE.

SO THE CONSUMPTION LOUNGE IS JUST AN AREA THAT YOU CAN CHECK OUT YOUR PRODUCTS, CONSUME YOUR PRODUCTS SO IF YOU BOUGHT SOME EDIBLES, YOU CAN OPEN THE PACKAGE AND CHECK THEM OUT.

WE ARE GOING TO SERVE SOME CRAFT CANNABIS COCKTAILS.

THAT'S WHAT THE CONSUMPTION LOUNGE IS GOING TO CONSIST OF.

AN AREA TO CONSUME THE PRODUCTS IN A SAFE MATTER AND EDUCATED ON THE PRODUCTS WHILE YOU ARE DOING IT.

WE WILL HAVE BUD TENDERSES TO EDUCATE THE CUSTOMERS.

AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT LICENSES GO.

THERE IS CULTIVATION, THERE IS PROCESSING.

THERE IS THE RETAIL.

I CHOSE RETAIL.

I WISH I COULD GET INTO OTHER AVENUES BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I'M ALLOWED TO DO RETAIL.

SO I HOPE THEY OPEN US UP TO DO OTHER THINGS.

WOULD I LOVE TO DO EVERYTHING FROM SEED TO SALE SOME DAY.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE PIONEER IN THE INDUSTRY.

>> BEAUTIFUL SPACE, THANK YOU AGAIN TO MIKE FLYNN.

UP NEXT FOR OUR COMMON CENTS AND JOINING US TONIGHT IS AREL MOODIE, HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INVESTIGATOR AND FOUNDER OF ADULT DEVELOPMENT THEORY.

HE IS A BEST SELLING AUTHOR, SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR.

HE HAS SPOKEN ALL OVER THE GLOBE TO OVER 750,000 PEOPLE!

HE HAS EXTENSIVELY STUDIED HUMAN DYNAMICS AND RELATIONSHIPS AND HAS SPOKEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE TWICE, TEDX STAGE THREE TIMES AND LAST BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST HOSTED A TV SHOW ON DISNEY+.

IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE ON MY SHOW.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

IT'S AN HONOR.

>> I'M SO EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE CALLING ADULT DEVELOPMENT THEORY.

AND SOMETHING YOU HAVE STUDIED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

PLEASE TELL US WHAT THAT IS.

>> YEAH, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH CHILD DEVELOPMENT THEORY.

THAT CHILDREN PASS THROUGH PREDICTABLE STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S WHY YOU CAN PLAY PEEK A BOO WITH A SIX-MONTH-OLD AND THE GREATEST GAME IN THE WORLD BUT PLAYING IT WITH A 16-YEAR-OLD, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ONCE YOU HIT 21 YEARS OLD, YOU STOP DEVELOPING BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

60 YEARS OF RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT ALL ADULTS PASS THROUGH PREDICTABLE AND SEQUENTIAL STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND THESE STAGES ALLOW US TO BETTER CONNECT AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE MORE EFFECTIVELY.

>> SO HOW DO YOU CATEGORIZE THOSE THINGS?

IS IT AGE?

TELL ME.

>> SO GENERATIONS ARE CATEGORIZING PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR AGE.

SO THEY MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON HOW OLD THEY ARE.

ADULT DEVELOPMENT THEORY OR STAGE THEORY IS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON HOW MATURE THEY ARE.

SO SOMETIMES YOU WILL METE A 21-YEAR-OLD WHO IS AS MATURE AS A 40-YEAR-OLD AND A 40-YEAR-OLD WHO IS AS MATURE AS A TEENAGER.

THAT'S WHERE THIS DUMBS COMES FROM AND THERE ARE FOUR MAIN STAGES I LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH PEOPLE SO THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND OTHERS.

>> WELL, TELL US.

WHAT ARE THE FOUR STAGES?

>> SO THE FIRST ONE IS CALLED THE SELF CENTRIC STAGE.

THIS IS OUR STAGE OF MATURITY THAT'S ALL ABOUT ME.

IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING, IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME.

THEN WE MOVE INTO THE SECOND STAGE WHICH IS GROUP CENTRIC, WHERE IT'S I WANT TO GET A SENSE OF BELONGING.

DOING THINGS BY MYSELF HASN'T BEEN WORKING.

I WANT TO BE PART OF A GROUP.

THIRD STAGE IS CALLED SKILL CENTRIC, ALL ABOUT DEVELOPING A SKILL.

WHAT I AM AND WHAT I DO NO LONGER SEPARATE.

AND THE FOURTH WURN AS CHIEFING CHANGE.

ACHIEVING BIG GOALS AND ANALYZING THOSE GOALS SO YOU CAN ACHIEVE EVEN MORE GOALS.

>> AWESOME.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS SHOW IS ABOUT MONEY.

HOW DO WE CONNECT THAT TO THE PRACTICALITY OF PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIFE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS AND SELLING AND CUSTOMERS AND YOUR AUDIENCE AND ALL OF THAT 1234.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, HAVE YOU TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE'S WALLETS AND CREDIT CARDS ARE HOW WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MONEY.

SO WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND PEOPLE AND YOU CAN CONNECT WITH THEM MORE DEEPLY, YOU CAN REALLY UNLOCK THE POWER OF THIS SO THAT YOU CAN BE MORE SUCCESSFUL IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL LIFE.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THE SHOW.

AGAIN, SUPER HONORED THAT YOU ARE HERE.

>> DO YOU ALWAYS WEAR GREEN, MONEY RELATED THING?

I LIKE THAT.

>> SOMETIMES.

OUR THANKS AGAIN TO AREL MOODIE, HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INVESTIGATOR AND FOUNDER OF ADULT DEVELOPMENT THEORY.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW NOW FOR OUR TECH BYTES SEGMENT • BACK IN NOVEMBER 2023 THE SYRACUSE HANCOCK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HELD A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR THE OPENING OF THEIR NEW GLYCOL RECYCLING CENTER.

TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AERO MAG, A QUEBEC-BASED COMPANY, INVESTED OVER $19 MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD THIS STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY ALSO REFERRED TO AS AN R-R-R - RECOVERY, RECYCLING, AND REUSE FACILITY.

THIS NEW PROCESS MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF CARBON DIOXIDE AND WATER USED AT THE AIRPORT - MAKING IT GREAT FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST OF ITS KIND FACILITY IN THE U.S. [ APPLAUSE ] >> WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN DEICING AIRCRAFT AT THE AIRPORT.

COLLECTING IT IN THE TANKS AND THAT FLUID GETS TREATED HERE AND THEN SENT TO THE COUNTY'S WASTE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY.

ONE OF OUR STAFF HAD A WAY OF RECYCLING THE GLYCOL SO IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE.

WORKING WITH THE COMPANY AEROMACK WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE PROGRAM THAT ALL THE GLYCOL AT THIS AIRPORT IS FULLY RECOVERED, RECYCLED BACK TO ITS UN ONE% STATE AND SOLD BACK TO THE AIRLINES AT A DISCOUNT.

>> WE HAVE BEEN RECYCLING IN MONTREAL SENSE 2014.

THE WINTERS ARE QUITE SNOWY AND WATERY WITH FREEZING RAIN AND HEAVY SNOW.

THE AVERAGE CONCENTRATION GOING IN IS NORMALLY BETWEEN 3 AND 5% GLIE GLIE COL.

THIS FLUID IS PROCESSED THROUGH THE SYSTEM WE BRING IT UP TO 10% CONCENTRATION.

WE WILL BRING THE CONCENTRATION UP TO 50%.

SO THAT'S THE TWO TO STEP THREE AND BRING THE FLUID FROM 50% TO 99%.

WE GO TO THE LAST PHASE, WE BLEND THE FLUID AND FROM OUTSIDE FROM DOW CHEMICAL OR OTHER CHEMICAL COMPANIES.

WHEN IT IS MERGED WITH THE GLYCOL, THAT'S WITH WE HAVE 100% DESIGHSING FLUID.

FROM THERE WE PUT IT IN A TANKER TRUCK AND WE BRING IT BACK TO THE AIRPORT WHERE IT IS TRANSFERRED INTO THE DEICING TRUCKS AND SPRAYED BACK ON THE AIRCRAFT.

>> WE ARE DOING SOME EXPANSION TO OUR DESIGHSING PAD IS.

AS WE GET BUSIER, WE WILL NEED ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

ALL THAT ADDITIONAL FLUID WOULD COME THROUGH THIS FACILITY AND BE RECYCLED.

FOR THE AIRLINES, IT REDUCES THEIR COST OF OPERATION HERE AT THE AIRPORT.

IT REDUCES THEIR LANDING FEE BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER HAVING TO BILL FOR THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES BUT THEN WHEN THEY BUY THE GLYCOL BACK, IT IS AT 15 TO 20% DISCOUNTED RATE THAN THEY WERE TYPICALLY PURCHASING IT PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO BUY RECYCLED GLYCOL.

>> FROM A REGIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PERSPECTIVE, IT DOES A A FEW THINGS.

FROM THE AIRPORT WE ARE NOT RELEASING FLUID THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED BY THE COUNTY SO THAT ELIMINATE 4-Z TO 6 MILLION GALLONS.

WE CAN COLLECT AND CAPTURE OTHER AIRPORTS FLUIDS.

SO WE CAN STORE HERE, TREAT IT SO IT'S NO LONGER TRUCKED PAST OUR DOOR WAY ON I-90 GOING TO THE EAST COASTED.

IT CAN BE DROPPED OFF HERE FULLY RECYCLED TAKING THOSE VEHICLES OFF THE ROADWAY AND AS WELL STOPPING EVEN FURTHER TO DISCHARGE OUTSIDE OF WHERE THE AIRPORT IS AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE THAT WE WILL BE USING TO DEICE IN THE FUTURE IS ELECTRIC AND THIS FACILITY IS A LOW EMISSIONS FACILITY AS WELL.

THIS IS THE FIRST IN THE WORLD THAT USES THIS KIND OF TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS AND RECYCLE SUCH LOW CONCENTRATION GLYCOL.

THOSE REGULATIONS DON'T EXIST.

THIS IS A SUSTAINABILITY INITIATE ON OUR PART TO BE BETTER PARTNER AND BETTER NEIGHBORS.

>> TONIGHT FOR BY THE NUMBERS WE EXPLORE WHAT THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX IS AND HOW TO MEASURE IT.

THE CPI MEASURES THE MONTHLY CHANGE IN PRICES PAID BY U.S. CONSUMERS.

US.

THERE ARE 8 MAJOR CATEGORIES: SHELTER, FOOD AND TRANSPORTATION COMMODITIES.

SO LET'S CALCULATE THE COST OF SOME GROCERY ITEMS, BREAD AND BUTTER.

IN 2021, THE SUM OF THOSE GROCERIES WAS $6.75 IN 2023, THE SUM OF THOSE GROCERIES WAS $8.50 NOW, WE'LL DIVIDE THE CURRENT PRICE TOTAL BY THE PAST PRICE TOTAL WHICH GIVES US 1.259 - NOW, WE'LL MULTIPLY IT BY 100 WHICH RESULTS IN 125.9 AND SUBTRACT 100 WHICH GIVES US OUR FINAL PERCENT CHANGE OF BREAD AND BUTTER 25.9% THERE HAS BEEN A 25% SCHAING FROM TWENT TO 2023.

KNOWING THIS WILL HELP YOU DETERMINE BOTH COST OF LIVING AND YOUR ECONOMIC PURCHASING POWER.

IT ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO MORE ACCURATELY PRICE YOUR ITEMS REASONABLY AND AFFORDABLY.

THESE ARE YOUR NUMBERS FOR TONIGHT!

WE CONTINUE WITH OUR SPOTLIGHT SERIES WITH J. DANIEL PLUFF WHERE WE HIGHLIGHT BUSINESSES DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL IN OUR AREA.

AS THEIR ACCEPTANCE GROWS, ELECTRIC VEHICLES HAVE MOVED FROM A NOVELTY, TO ALMOST MAINSTREAM WITH MANY AUTO MANUFACTURERS OFFERING A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR BUYERS.

BUT SEVERAL WIDELY PUBLISHED REPORTS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS REGARDING THE REAL PRACTICALITY OF EVS, CITING AN UNDERDEVELOPED CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHER ACQUISITION COSTS.

AND OF COURSE, ON THE MONEY WANTED TO KNOW IF EVS TRULY OFFER DRIVERS AN ECONOMIC SAVINGS OVER TIME.

OUR DANIEL PLUFF FOUND A RELIABLE SOURCE IN CHARLIE CAPRARA - WHO'S EXPERIENCE IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY SPANS NEARLY A HALF CENTURY.

THE TWO HAD A SPIRITED CONVERSATION ON ALL ASPECTS OF EVs.

IS THIS VEHICLE REALLY A ABOUT ITER OPTION?

AS IT TURNS OUT, THE BEST CHOICE MAY JUST BE A COMPROMISE.

>> IT'S A PLEASURE HAVING YOU JOIN US AT WCNY BECAUSE I'M A BIT OF A CAR NUT SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A FUN INTERVIEW FOR ME.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT... >> THIS IS A TOUGH JOB YOU ARE PUTTING ME ON RIGHT HERE DAN, BECAUSE THIS IS TOUGH BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THE ELECTRIC THAT IS ALL NEW TO ALL OF US.

>> EXACTLY.

CLEARLY YOU HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY IN THIS BUSINESS.

YOU HAVE SEEN IT ALL.

YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE.

>> 48 YEARS DAN.

>> OKAY.

>> STARTED AT 14.

>> A LOT OF TRENDS COME AND GO.

EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE SOME OF THE COLORS OF THE CAR, YOU CAN DATE TO THE SIXTH TO THE 70s, WHATEVER.

LET'S TALK ABOUT A TREND THE REASON YOU ARE HERE, OF COURSE, IS THE MOVE, A LOT OF TALK, A LOT OF ATTENTION, THE MOVE TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES EV.

>> IT'S TOTALLY A WHOLE NEW THING WITH US.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE SEEING MANY MANUFACTURERS TAKE IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE BRANDS THAT I HOST, I HAVE SIX BRANDS AND VEHICLES AND IRONICALLY WHEN IT CRUMBS TO CHRYSLER, THE HORNET COMING OUT IS AN ELECTRIC CAR BUT IT'S NOT HERE YET.

HONDA, WE HAD THE CLARITY, CLARITY WAS THREE YEARS AGO.

HONDA, YOU KNOW, THE JAPANESE DO A GREAT JOB WITH CARS.

THEY'RE USUALLY WAY, WAY ABOVE THEIR SCHEDULE.

AND IRONICALLY THE CLARITY IS NOT, WE CAN'T ORDER AN ELECTRIC CAR.

FORD.

FORD IS THE INNOVATOR HAS COME OUT WITH A LIGHTNING... >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO AGREE-- A GAME CHANGER IN THE INDUSTRY WAS TESLA BECAUSE DIDN'T THEY REALLY MAINSTREAM THE WHOLE ELECTRIC CAR IDEA?

>> IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE CHASED TESLA.

IS IT THE RIGHT WAY?

WELL,WE'VE SEEN MANY THINGS IN TECHNOLOGY.

YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN G.M.

HAD THE AURORA, IT WAS A WHOLE NEW THING.

YOU HAD TO HAVE YOUR OWN SCHEDULE.

YOUR OWN FRANCHISE WITH AURORA.

YOU COULDN'T JUST BE A CHEVY DEALER.

YOU HAD TO BE AN ERROR DEALER AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A REALLY BIG PUSH FOR THE ELECTRIC CARS.

MANY FRANCHISERS ARE TAKING IT REALLY STRONG.

IT SEEMS LIKE SOME, DAN, ARE KIND OF SLOWING DOWN RIGHT NOW.

>> I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

BUT I MEAN AND I SAY THIS NOT TO BE FUNNY.

YOU WOULD SELL ME ANYTHING.

YOU ARE AGNOSTIC.

>> WE ARE CAR DEALERS.

WE HAVE TO.

IF I BOUGHT EVERY CAR THAT I JUST LIKED, HECK, I WOULD MISS A LOST MARKET SO I HAVE TO TOUCH EVERYTHING.

>> MY POINT IS THEN GIVE ME THE SELLING POINTS, IF YOU WILL, THE PROs, THE POSITIVES OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS YOU SEE SNEM.

>> THE REBATES.

SOME OF THE REBATES.

>> THE INCENTIVES.

>> 7500.

WE CAN TAKE $15,000 OFF OF SOME OF THESE UNITS.

SO SOME OF THE INCENTIVES YOU GET THE INCENTIVE QUICKLY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU IN FACT GO TO LEASE A CAR, IT'S $7500 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX.

IF YOU DON'T LEASE THE CAR, WELL THEN YOU TAKE THE TAX CREDIT OF $7500.

BUT SOME OF THE REBATES AND PROGRAMS.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE VERY BEGINNING, DAN, WHEN THE LIGHTNING TRUCK FIRST CAME OUT WE WOULD SEE THEM AT AUCTION AND GENERALLY WE WOULD WATCH A MAN HIGH MARKET REPORT.

THEY WERE DOING 20 AND $30,000 OVER STICKER.

THE HUMMER H-3, THE NEW HUMMER, $60,000 OVER STICKER AND NOW IT'S COMING BACK.

>> DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE WHOLE OVER STICKER THING.

>> IT'S CRAZY.

I HATE IT.

WE NEVER SOLD A CAR OVER STICKER IN OUR LIFE.

>> THAT WAS A POST-COVID EVENT WAS IT NOT?

>> WE ARE STILL LIVING THAT.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

AT FXC RA BRERRA, WE HAVE NEVER DONE THAT.

I JUST SOLD A DEMON.

I WILL SAY WITH THE ELECTRIC STUFF IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS STARTING TO SIMMER BACK A LITTLE BIT.

>> I'M GOING TO LOSE YOU ON THIS INTERVIEW, I KNOW IT.

BUT OTHER POSITIVES HAS TO BE FUEL SAVINGS.

YOU ARE NOT PUTTING GAS IN THE CAR.

>> FUEL SAVINGS.

I LIKE ELECTRIC IF YOU LIVE IN A CITY, YOU DRIVE TO WORK, IT'S CONVENIENT.

SOME OF THE-- THE INCENTIVES, THE CONVENIENCE, NO FUMES, IT SEEMS LIKE THE HEATERS NOW EVERYTHING IS RUNNING OFF ELECTRIC, THE HEAT SEEMS TO COME A LOT FAFTER THAN WAITING FOR... >> NICE IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY.

>> SO THE HEATING FASTER BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT'S A TOUGH-- I'M ABOLD SCHOOL CAR GUY.

I LIKE-- I'M A MOTOR HEAD GUY SO I STILL LIKE THE GAS.

>> WELL, OKAY, BUT WE MAY AGREE ON THAT.

I'M NOT THERE YET, FULL DISCLOSURE.

I LIKE TO BURN FUEL BUT THE FEW PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WHO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THEY REALLY SEEM TO LIKE THEM.

I MEAN-- >> I THINK THE RELIABILITY IS GOOD.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS NOT A LOT OF COMPONENTS THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH IT BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF THE COMPONENTS WE ARE GOING TO GIVE UP AT MANY OF OUR STORES, WE HAVE MASTER TECHNICIANS.

HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THEM?

>> I'M GOING ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.

>> BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE LIMITED TO OIL CHANGES.

YOU ARE LIMITED TO BRAKES.

WILL CHANGE A BATTERY, YES?

BUT ARE YOU CHANGING WATER PUMPS OR FUEL INJECTORS.

>> THAT'S A POSITIVE FOR THE EVS BUT NOT THE EMPLOYMENT.

>> WE HAVE TO EMPLOY PEOPLE.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVES.

I'VE SIGN A NUMBER OF REPORTS FROM CONSUMER REPORTS-- >> YOU ARE PUTTING ME ON THE SPOT NOW.

JUST KIDDING.

>> REPORTS SAYING, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING CONSUMERS TO REALLY DO SOME HOME WORK THOUGH BEFORE BUYING ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS THERE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.

>> GO ON VACATION.

GO TO FLORIDA.

OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO STOP PROBABLY AT LEAST FIVE TIMES ON THE WAY.

YOU HAVE TO-- SOME OF THE FULL CHARGERS COULD TAKE UP TO TWO HOURS.

>> THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO, I LOVE THE PHRASE CHARGER ANXIETY.

I MEAN QUITE FRANKLY AND AGAIN-- >> I GET IT.

>> BUT I WOULD BE RELUCTANT IF I HAD AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO DRIVE FROM CENTRAL NEW YORK TO OHIO.

BY THE WAY I'VE NEVER DRIVEN TO OI.

I'M NOT GOING TO BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WHERE AM I GOING CHARGE THAT THING UP?

I THINK THE INFRASTRUCTURE HASN'T CAUGHT UP WITH THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES OUT THERE.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT.

>> THAT IS THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT AND THAT'S WHAT THE BIG IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC IS TALKING ABOUT.

THE CART IS IN FRONT OF THE HORSE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HIT BEFORE THE MANUFACTURERS.

GO BACK A SECOND TO THE IDEA OF SERVICING AGAIN.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE SERVICING ASPECTS TO AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE... >> MINIMAL.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU DRIVE AN ELECTRIC CAR AND IF YOU DRIVEN ONE, YOU WILL NOTICE, WHEN YOU LET OFF THE GAS, IT'S LIKE HAVING A JAKE BRAKE IN A LOT OF CASES.

NOT AS SMOOTH AS A TRANSITION.

WHEN YOU DRIVE A GOLF CART AND LET OFF THE GAS, IT SLOWS IT DOWN.

WILL YOU WEAR YOUR BRAKES OUT AS FAST?

PROBABLY NOT.

THE SERVICE LEVEL OF IT, I MEAN I THINK IT'S SO MINIMAL.

BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF OUR DEALERSHIPS.

WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAVE SALES.

WE HAVE PARTS.

WE HAVE SERVICE.

WE HAVE BODY SHOP.

WE HAVE ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY ALL HAVE TO FINANCIALLY BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

HOW DO YOU ATTRACT A GOOD TECHNICIAN THAT SPENT HALF HIS LIFE TO MAKE GOOD MONEY?

>> THAT'S YOUR ISSUE, RIGHT?

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE CONSUMER SIDE AND SAY WELL, IF I BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, THEORETICALLY IS GOING TO BE CHEAPER TO MAINTAIN AND RUN.

I DON'T HAVE THE SERVICING ISSUES AND YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME ON THAT.

>> I'M ALSO HEARING A TESLA BATTERY SYSTEM IS $27,000.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

I COULD GO ALL DAY WITH YOU.

LET'S WRAP UP.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> I LOVE IT.

BUT THE OVERALL SALES FROM WHAT I'M SEEING SO FAR, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE ROAD TODAY, ABOUT 1%, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT 5 OR 6% OF SALES.

BLOOMBERG AND OTHERS ARE TELLING ME THAT, YOU HIT THAT 5% SALES THRESHOLD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A PIVOTING POINT WHERE THE MOMENTUM IS BUILT.

YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

>> I'M SAYING NO BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW, YOU GO TALK TO THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TODAY AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

I HAVE HEARD FROM-- >> IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT THE KEY TO THIS THEN?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT.

>> LET ME GET IT RIGHT.

IF WE HAD CHARGING STATIONS TO THE DEGREE THAT WE HAVE GAS STATIONS WOULD THAT CHANGE?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHAT IT COMES TO MAJOR CHANGE LIKE THIS, IT'S TOUGH.

I WILL SAY IN THE CLOSE OF THIS, IF YOU LIVE IN A CITY AND YOU WORK CLOSE, FIVE MILES AWAY OR EIGHT MILES AWAY, IT'S PROBABLY A GREAT THING.

BUT THE PRIUS OR SOME OF THE NEW CARS OUT THERE TODAY, HYBRIDS, I'M ALL OVER A HYBRID.

I LIKE IT WHERE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

I CAN CHANGE EITHER WAY.

I'M DRIVING ONE TODAY.

>> SO YOUR ANSWER IS LEAST FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, THE HYBRID IS THE WAY TO GO.

>> A34E7B.

I WOULD KILL IT AT THAT.

WE ALL WANT THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE DON'T WANT TO TOTALLY RUN OUT OF ELECTRIC.

WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE FAMILY FIGHTS BECAUSE SOMEONE DIDN'T CHARGE THE CAR.

THEY UNPLUGGED THE CHRISTMAS TREE.

WHATEVER IT MAY BE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CHARGE THE CAR.

OH MY GOSH, I'M ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

>> WE HAVE TO DO A CAR SHOW YOU AND I. I APPRECIATE THIS.

WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE ON EVs WHERE THEY'RE HEADED INTO THE FUTURE.

I GUESS MY TAKEAWAY IS A LITTLE UNKNOWN BUT YOUR BEST ADVICE IS HYBRIDS AT THIS POINT.

>> I THINK HYBRID IS THE WAY TO GO TOY POINT AS WE HAVE NOT BEEN EXPOSED ENOUGH TO ELECTRIC.

BIG THANKS TO CHARLIE CAPRARA FOR SCHOOLING US ON EVERYTHING ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

IT IS THE END OF OUR PROGRAM TONIGHT BUT WE HAVE MORE FOR YOU • NEXT WEEK WE HIGHLIGHT THE GREATER SYRACUSE LAND BANK AND HOME HEADQUARTERS WITH THEIR EFFORT TO MAKE HOUSING BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THEN WE HEAD BACK TO OSWEGO TO SEE HOW THE COBAS 5800 IS HELPING THE COMMUNITY WITH FASTER PCR TESTING.

AND FOR OUR SPOTLIGHT SERIES J.DANIEL PLUFF SITS DOWN WITH EXPERTS TO DISCUSS LEGALIZED CANNABIS IN NEW YORK STATE.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE COMING THIS SEASON SO IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR A BUSINESS, PERSON OR JUST SOMETHING SPECIAL HAPPENING IN CENTRAL NEW YORK, CONTACT US BY EMAILING NEWS AT WCNY.ORG.

TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT WCNY,ORG/ONTHEMONEY.

YOU CAN ALSO VIEW OUR PREVIOUS EPISODES THERE TOO.

AND YOU CAN FOLLOW US ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, AS WELL.

I'M LAIZA SEMIDEY, THANKS AGAIN FOR WATCHING.