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Terry Bradshaw telling m his feelings about the Steelers and Dan Rooney hopefully winning another Super Bowl on Sunday.

Good evening.

Welcome to On I'm Michael Bartley in Detroit.

You know the Steelers and the players of course they are hungry for a Super Bowl win.

But even they will tell you unselfishly they want to win one for the humble and classy gentleman Dan Rooney.

Dan Rooney and his father before him.

The Chiefs are praise around the NFL for consistency, staying the course, not flinching and making knee jerk personnel decisions with coaches and staff.

I'm just so pleased for this team personally.

Dan Rooney is considered the gentleman of the NFL, often deflecting attention away from himself, saying humbly.

Championships are for the players, coaches, fans.

The city of Pittsburgh, the crowd they have, lik they always say, the 12th man.

The crowd had just been excited.

It's no surprise what Rooney' son Jim told me here in Detroit.

You know it is truly a family enterprise.

And there, you know, there is no need for him to win this Super Bowl for personal gratification.

It's the fact that it's a legacy that that we're all proud of.

And, you know, it's part of western Pennsylvania.

It has as much to do with the community in western Pennsylvania as it does, with our family.

You're high profile.

And because Dan Rooney treats superstars and everyday fans with equal respect.

Terry Bradshaw says he' pulling for the Rooneys to win another Super Bowl.

It's great, for the Rooney family.

The city of Pittsburgh which is a great football town.

Great history there.

The last 32 years.

And so I would like nothing better that for Dan Rooney because they're good people.

They're good peopl and they're very humble people.

And, and, I think I think for the most part, football fans really admire and, people that have tremendous amount of success and yet have a large amount of humility about it.

And the Rooney said that Bradshaw joined Super Bowl legends Bart Starr, Roger Staubach and others for a Super Bowl for him here in Detroit.

Afterwards, he told me he'll be thinking of Dan Rooney this coming weekend.

Seattle.

It's it's just that if they get it, they get their dream come true.

They're one for the time.

With our fans that screamed over for the last 26 years and, and it would be very satisfying, for all of us players and certainly the city to see them do it.

It's not like they have to have one that we've got four already.

We didn't make it one othe time, but, they're good people.

You like to see good things happen to good people.

And coach Bill Cowher on media day.

Bill, can you talk about winning this for Dan Rooney?

Your thoughts on that place?

Well, I mean, I said before, I mean, Mr.

Rooney is, he's a special man and I, he means a lo to the National Football League.

He's he's meant a lot to me personally in my career.

And and, like I said, he's like a father, like a friend.

Still my boss.

But, nothing that would mean more to me than to be able to hand him that fifth trophy.

And we've been so close.

And it would be just it would be very special.

I've never had a chance to meet the Chiefs, but, like I say, the appl isn't far too far from the tree.

I got a feeling that's the case with Mr.. Rooney.

It's the organization.

And if you ask the Steelers, their eyes seem to light up welcoming the chanc to talk about owner Dan Rooney.

If you're on the team, you know how personal he is.

You know him being the owner of the team and stuff.

I don't know about other organizations, but I talked to a couple of guys.

But that guy, I mean, he's he's like one of us, you know, he hangs out with us in the locker room, the training room, and, very special man.

And, just the contribution he made to this league and what he does and, you know, I love we got gotta do.

You know, the Steelers, everybody came to know the nam Terry O'Neill a few weeks ago.

So much so the whole Steeler Nation wants to know how this guy is going to handle the Super Bowl.

You know who he is.

American flags.

Steeler flags.

This could be any proud Pittsburgh neighborhood.

Even Steelers flags on top of cars.

But in this neighborhood, Arlington, where the pennants are tied to the porch railing, lives are now international star.

He's laughing all about it now, but 49 year old Terry O'Neill is lucky to be laughing in the first place.

O'Neill had a real lif heart attack during the Steelers Colts nail biter when his hero Jerome Bettis fumbled.

But since then, O'Neill has become the talk of the country and beyond with 60 plus media interviews and counting.

I mean, you've been on every network.

Is that everywhere from Santa Barbara to Jersey to Toronto and Montreal to Florida, Texas, Arkansas.

I could go on.

I must have been 60.

As a matter of fact it got so bad my my cardiologist was going to have my, my phone taken off, whereas my, every time I'd talk, my monitor would start to go up a little bit.

They got me down to where my blood pressure was 120 over 75, even during a phone call.

And so the doc says, have a ball.

You're you're looking pretty good.

So the stress of the media, everything's okay with that year Is it funny I be telling a lie if I didn't say I didn't enjoy it?

It's.

It's okay.

You have your 15 minutes, maybe more.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm doing a little bit bette than the Andy Warhol prediction.

Here's what happened.

O'Neill was watching the Steelers Colts game at Cupkas on the South Side with Steeler buddies like he always does.

So we're watching the game.

I started to get a little upset at some of the, referee's calls.

Randall had a bad call against him, and then, Paul Marlow got a bad call on that interception, and, I, I felt myself starting to.

I don't want to say my chest got tight, but I started to get really, like, flush, and I dismissed it.

Of course, you know, I, I don't pass, I'm just mad.

So I was watching more and more and more, and then I saw Jerome get the handoff and he gets the handoff.

It pop goes the weasel the ball straight up in the air.

And the next thing you know, one of the Colts grabs it was running the other way.

And I thought, oh my God, what can be worse.

But Big Ben of course comes out of nowhere and does a fantastic shoestring tackle and brings a man down.

But by that time I think, that was sort of the end of it.

I, I was tol I turned to a friend and said, But Jerome can't fumble.

He's a pro.

Wherever that came from, I don't know.

And, then I fell straight backwards off my chair, and, I don't think I'm the first guy that ever fell off his chair down there.

Yeah.

Firs I thought I was kidding around, and, then one of the firemen locked down and said.

Terry is turning blue and, right, right.

At that time they went to work immediately.

And, one of the firemen did my breathing for me, mouth to mouth.

And another one did chest compressions.

So those two guys were, in fact, my heart.

And they kept oxygenated blood going to my brain.

They did that right at the bar right there.

EMTs then rushed O'Neil to nearby Southside Hospital.

I woke up in Southside Hospital.

UPMC and I, immediately asked the doctor who won?

And he said, something to the effec that I had bigger fish to fry.

And, I said, no, no, no, no.

Who won?

He told me the Steelers won the game.

And I said, okay, do what you got to do.

And, the next thing I remember, I was over at Presby, I recuperating, and he spent six days in the hospital.

And don't think O'Neill doesn't know he's lucky, not just because the Steelers won his doctors told him this was more than a heart attack.

This.

They actually, it was, cardiac arrest.

My heart didn't g into a fluctuation or anything.

I just quit beating.

That was it.

That was all for me.

And had I been at home with my wife and daughter, I'd have.

Thank God I wasn't, because I didn't want to leave them with that kind of a feeling.

They couldn't help their father and husband.

So I was at the right place at the right time with the right people, and I couldn't have gone any better.

And take a look at what Terry does to relax.

Now that he's hom from the hospital, he watches on demand reruns of Steeler games.

The victories only, of course.

Even the Colts game and that infamous play that made O'Neill famous and off into their own beds, and Elizabeth under him to me every time.

You can watch it over and over.

Hey, you know, the big one his doctors say if that's the way he can relax, go for it.

It's what he loves, after all.

He's surrounded by Steelers blankets and terrible towels on the sofa and draped over the prize King Salmon that Terry caught in Canada, the newest edition, a giant ge well card from all his buddies at Cupkas.

It's complete with pasted on the headlines and even a newspaper picture of Terry and his wife Diane at the hospital.

This is the card but I can't show you this side because there's some languag in there.

Might.

Okay.

All right So I don't want you to see any bad, bad wolf, but they're like the Steelers or your Steeler buddies.

Yeah.

Okay.

Sorry to hear about your accident, but it's nice to have two extra seats at the bar.

Cliff, do you know him?

Okay, wait a minute.

Let's see here.

Terry, your 15 minutes are up.

Give someone else a chance.

Yeah.

Darlene.

Yeah.

That's the wife of the firefighter that, helped to save me.

Oh.

No kidding.

Okay, but what about thi coming Sunday, the Super Bowl?

How will Terry O'Neill handle it?

What are you gonna do?

Good question.

I'd like to be in Detroit, but, I think, you know, you never know.

But if not, I think I'm gonna, you know, I, I'd like to be u here with my wife and daughter, but I know where I'll be in the best hands.

That Cupkas.

Cupkas.

But, I think I'll just wait and see how I feel.

And it's too early to say.

Are you going to try to sort of, if there's a bad call?

It's almost like Zen.

I have to.

I have to become a whole new me.

And, you know, it's it's a great, lesson and acceptance you know, because with me, it's got to be immediate.

I can't sit and dwell on bad calls and get angry.

I just have to go with the flow and watch the game.

But the good news is, I think we're going to probably, hand these guys their hats.

So Terry is already.

But is his wife Diane?

Are you worried about Super Bowl Sunday with him?

Maybe a little bit.

I know he is.

He's been taking it easy.

Are there any new rules for the game for him?

I mean, we can't raise his arm, his right arm above his head, and he just can't get as excited as he did, though.

Do you promise not to do that?

I'm not making any promises.

I promise to do my best.

So you're probably more worried than he is about this game?

I think so are you.

You're going to keep an eye on him?

Yeah, I will, and I see you're of the Cupkas shirt on and this is a new shirt after his ordeal.

It is, but the back is sort of the.

Can I see the the home of the heart stopping action.

Terry O'Neil 1/15/06.

Oh, so you're lucky that wasn't the last day.

You will be right.

I have a lot to be grateful for.

Diane, there's one more shirt you want to show us.

I do, when you go to the hospital all week, I kept saying, Where's Terry shirt?

Because no one know what happened to the shirt that they ripped off of him.

And we went down to chuck us for the game.

Oh, my friends come ove and said, oh, here, by the way.

Ive Terrys shirt.

Oh, this this this is his shirt he was wearing the day that, you can see went into cardiac arrest.

Okay.

So you can see a touch a littl bit of the Steeler front of it.

This is what they cut off him for.

They cut him off in the center.

Wow.

So this is what the shirt.

Looks like now that they cut off from when he went to cardiac arrest, he's probably trying to sew that back up.

So, like, I want to frame it.

He's quite a character.

This heart attack survivor.

It's no wonde the national media loves O'Neil.

And he admits the dumbest question you can ever ask a Steelers fan, even those recovering from a heart attack.

Is it too risky for him to even watch the Superbowl?

Nobody told me.

Okay, so you've be all right come Super Bowl Sunday, I think you'll probably do my heart more damage not to watch the game.

I don't think I could sit somewhere for 3.5 hours and, watch a movie or something like that, knowin that this is going on at that.

There would be the worst of all possibilities that we got.

I don't want to put myself back in a hospital.

So Terry tells me he'll be just fine for the Super Bowl on Sunday.

Tomorrow night Off Q, Dave and Dave will be here bringing you stories about the Steelers fans arriving in Detroit tomorrow night.

We talked Super Bowl Off Q. For no I'm Michael Bartley in Detroit.

Now back to Pittsburgh.

Thank you Mark Martin.

How about Michael Bartley for that report.

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Our final story tonight focuse on the children of this region.

What are they learning and how are they learning?

Certainly, there are many fine educational programs in local schools, but the one we are looking at tonight is all about a game.

But there are far more benefits than just having fun.

On Q, correspond to Tonia Caruso reports.

The bag is unusual, and at first glance, so is mission.

Nearly every day this man visits a different elementary school in the city of Pittsburgh.

Meet Jerry Meyers.

He's not there to teac reading or math or even science.

He's there to teach chess.

This progra in the public schools is called chess for Pittsburgh youth.

Started of pretty small in the beginning.

Just a few schools, and there are about 30 schools or so in the, Pittsburgh public school system that are doing chess.

I just think chess is a way of stimulating kids minds, getting them thinkin and having fun at the same time.

But when Black's king is here, the idea behind the program is to introduce chess to kids who otherwise may never learn how to play.

On this day Meyers is working with students at Colfax Elementary School in Squirrel Hill.

Yes, Connor to today a lesson da Yes.

Yes.

In between sandwiches and yogurt sticks, these kids in grades first through fifth are eagerly plotting chess moves.

Use of the rook.

Okay.

A battle between the rook and the pawns.

At the start when they're just beginning, the first thing that chess i doing for them is getting them to look more carefull at what's going on around them.

It's getting kids to look more carefully, to focus, and to start to concentrate, at that's at the sort of the first level in a real game.

If you do something and you make a mistake, you can't go back and fix it.

That's right.

What do you like about chess?

I'm not really sure.

It's just it's a really fun game, you know?

Sometimes I play it with my sisters.

So try to visualize ahead.

So.

And do you look forward to when Mr.

Meyers comes to school?

Yeah.

Why?

Well, one reason i because we get to eat at lunch a little earlier when we come down here.

But another reason is because he's a good teacher and he helps us learn better ways to play.

What is that?

And as I found out from Eve and some of her chess club friends, the goal is to, threaten the king.

Try and take the king when it has no place to go.

And when you checkmate them, it means like, make it so please attack.

And to do that you first must master one thing.

How the pieces move.

You start off moving your your pawn two spaces.

This is our bishop.

He can go any number of spaces he he wants.

He can only go diagonally.

This is a knight.

This.

This one with the cross on it is the king.

What's the name of this piece?

a K. Okay.

And it moves.

And it can move one square anyway.

Okay.

Then the queen.

This.

Yes.

She's the most powerful piece on the board because she can go as many spaces as she want in any direction she wants.

And it's very difficult to get her off the board.

There's no question these kids are having fun.

But there's a lot more to this game.

In fact, some studies suggest the educational benefits of chess may be endless.

There have been a numbe of studies that show improvement in, standardized test scores, in both reading and in math.

There's logical thinking going on in chess.

There's pattern that are very similar to math.

There's a Torrance Test of Creativity where they've showed improve test scores on that among, kids who've been involved in chess programs.

Chess is lik the ultimate concentration game, because what you're trying to do initially, you're just lookin at the situation at the moment.

But as you get more into chess, you start to think about sequences.

If I do this, how is the other person going to respond?

And you start to anticipate, what's going to happen and then you can start getting more elaborate.

And thanks to the program, the children who play are getting younger every year.

Shelley Katz Rudkin is first grade teacher at Colfax.

Her students can't get enough of the game.

At first did you think that your students could pick up chess?

I didn't think they pick it u as quickly as they did, but Mr.

Meyers presents it in such a fabulous way that they want to learn it and want to do it.

And so many of my children have now learned, and it has helped with their, critical thinking, their strategies.

They love chess.

We were learning the piece in Spanish also, and they just.

And they love to be able to help each other.

It's interesting to hear them tell each other the rules.

The King can be captured if I'm in there because she can never be attacked.

I mean, they're not.

Couldn't capture Do you teach children as young as first grade?

Right.

Even younger than that.

I have people come to m sometimes with preschool kids.

Now, not every preschool child is ready for chess, but there are some exceptional kids out there that I have.

Encountered as young as age four who, who are amazing.

No, no, no I do that.

Some kids take off.

Their minds are like sponges, and it's incredible.

Just as incredible the numbe of children now wanting to play.

Our goal is not only not only to produce winners, not only to, take ribbons home, but also to challenge ourselve at the end of each school year.

The chess program holds several tournaments among the city schools here.

The competition is tough.

Everyone wants to win.

Okay?

They're all excited.

All of them want to say my school is the best?

There's a school spirit.

There's sportsmanship involved in that.

You know, I try to tell the kids, be gracious at winning, be gracious at losing and so forth, but but that's a, those kind of competitions are fun for kids, and their school wins.

They're beaming with pride.

They get to wear maybe their school t shirts when they go off.

It gives them a good feeling.

That's right.

No, this was not the bishop.

What's this one called?

Rook?

That's the one.

But even better, Maya says, is watching each child grow individually as they continue to play the game and then the fifth grader, John, has been playing for just a few weeks.

He's not giving up.

How many games have you won?

Would you say?

One.

That's good, but you're getting better all the time.

What would you sa to other young people about why chess is something they may want?

They might want to learn.

Teach you to concentrate.

Pay attention, and it teach you to not just sit around and do stuff and watch TV.

It helps you learn more.

Know you always have to b thinking, what's the other guy going to do?

And Jerry Meyers.

says, that' what this program is all about.

Learnin more while having a good time.

Oh no, I'm not going to hear.

Probably the most positive elements are when you see kids progressin and you see them really able to get some appreciation out of chess.

When a kid acquires a new skill, they can develop a certain self-confidence that carries over again into other activities.

Kids get excited an their excitement is contagious.

When they're having fu and they're enjoying themselves, you see a smile on a child' face.

There's nothing like that.

All right, guys.

Congratulations.

Tonia tells us this is not a new program.

Actually, it has been around for about ten years now, and many of the teams that Jerry Myers has put together have won state tournaments.

For more information on the Pittsburgh Chess Club or the chess for Pittsburgh Youth program, you can log on to our website or under this website, rather, Pittsburgh, Pittsburghcc.org I am sorry I missed reading this.

Pittsburghcc.org chess club obviously.

Thank you for watching.

And we want to remind you that On Q's coverage of Super Bowl 40 continues tomorrow night.

We'll be checking in with the Daves in Detroit.

On Q, contributors Dav and Dave are in the Motor City and we'll find out what's happening.

By the way, they see it tomorrow night.

After that, the regular Off Q crew will take over with a few exceptions On Q. Tony Caruso will be in for Chris Moore along with KDKA radios Fred Honsberger, local sports author Jim O'Brien, Post-Gazette columnist Ruth Ann Dailey and former member of the Steel Curtain and proud recipient of fou Super Bowl rings, Mike Wagner.

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