
Oxford Part 2
Season 5 Episode 502 | 25m 15sVideo has Closed Captions
Dagger & Ring, baseball memorabilia, and Salvador Dali Print.
Featured items include a dagger & ring, baseball memorabilia, Salvador Dalí’s The Persistence of Memory, McCarty 6 Pot Set, Newcomb Pottery and more.
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Oxford Part 2
Season 5 Episode 502 | 25m 15sVideo has Closed Captions
Featured items include a dagger & ring, baseball memorabilia, Salvador Dalí’s The Persistence of Memory, McCarty 6 Pot Set, Newcomb Pottery and more.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipI am Germaine Flood with Mississippi Public Broadcasting, and we're here at The Inn, at Ole Miss at Oxford, Mississippi for the Mississippi Antique Showcase.
Now, the in it Ole Miss is Oxford's only hotel located in the heart of campus, just 150 steps away from The Grove.
And when you make it that 150 steps, you are gonna make it to the Mississippi Antique showcase.
I want you to come inside with me.
We're gonna see what we can get appraised for, and we're gonna see if you can show me the money.
Jonathan, thank you so much for coming on MS Antique Showcase.
I'm really excited today about what you brought.
This is kind of a historic pairing of this dagger and ring, and I know it has some family significance to you, but it actually was a knife and ring that was given by then Prince of Fahad of Saudi Arabia, who later became the king of Saudi Arabia.
Prince, uh, Fahad was born in 1921, um, and became the Crown Prince in 1975 before he later ascended to the throne in 1982, and he reigned until his death until 2005.
Just briefly, tell us a little bit about how you came across, uh, the two items.
Okay.
My grandfather was a master sergeant, retired army 29 years.
And in '72, he went to Saudi Arabia to help them train in the military aspect.
And while there he made friends with the prince.
And one of the things, the stories was they would ride around in a big pink Cadillac with the Saudi flags out on the end of it.
Yeah.
So, uh, it's riding in style, right?
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, he gave these things to my grandfather.
When my grandmother passed, my mom found a letter in Arabic and we had it translated and, uh, it was in the prince's hand, and when he wrote it, he, he stated that if any of us ever came to Saudi Arabia, descendants of my grandfather, that we would be hosted by the royal family.
You'd be welcome.
Yeah.
Probably you need to put on that ring to help you go To Right.
Probably recognize it.
Yep.
This traditional actual dagger is what we call a khanjar.
It means curved dagger in an Arabic, and as we can tell from this, uh, dagger, it's often highly decorative.
This, of course, is tin metal and brass.
Um, and it's really a beautiful example you can distinctively note in these, along with other religious symbols or the symbols of the crown, uh, or specific family insignia is you often have, uh, nice stones.
And here you can see that there's clearly a nice red stone here.
So that was often an embellishments they use to at least reflect a grandiose, uh, khanjar.
I actually examined the blade out of, um, its original case and sheath.
This blade, I would, I would suspect is probably in the depression era.
So in the twenties, possibly even the early to, uh, mid thirties.
So he had it in his possession for some time.
He was only born in obviously in two, right, in 21.
The ring itself is probably right around that same time, but what really affects it and makes it significant is obviously the provenance with it given to your family, but also the actual historical comparing of the two without Royal family signatures.
Right.
Without formal certifications, I know you do have the letter, we probably estimate the dagger and the ring probably in the range of $2,500 to $5,000.
Okay.
So I know that's a wide range, but it really is dependent on fair market value on a particular collector.
Sure.
And an auction.
It's a special item.
We, we really appreciate you bringing in today.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
We are here with one of my heroes and a sports legend.
Mr.
Jake Gibbs the only or the first athlete from Mississippi to be an All American in football and an All American in baseball.
Is that correct?
Mm-hmm.
What an accomplishment.
Welcome, Jake.
Thank you Bill.
Thank you.
Glad to be here.
Be to see you.
I was telling Coach Gibbs earlier that when I was a student at Ole Miss, I used to love to come and watch his teams play baseball.
You were the coach here how many years?
19 years.
But the 72 team won the SEC championship and went to Omaha that year.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Remember it.
Well, I remember watching him over at the baseball field and that's changed a lot, hadn't it?
Oh, Swazy compared to what we got now, quite a bit.
Yeah.
Quite a bit.
Mm-hmm.
Tell us about this Jersey coach.
Well, that's a game, that's a game jersey at Ole Miss, you know, we have beautiful colors start with.
Absolutely.
And this is, uh, one of the favorites is a navy blue.
Then we have a Red Jersey, then we have a White Jersey that we use mostly on road trips.
So the blue jersey and the Red Jersey is mainly when we play at home.
You know, we played a lot of games in Memphis in those years.
Yeah.
And they was kind of home games.
So this is a blue jersey and, uh, it's a, these jerseys are, they don't make 'em like that anymore.
You can see the material in 'em, but they was beautiful jersey and we had that gray silver patch, you know, Remember it was, and Doc Knight was our trainer and he was kind of responsible for who, what jersey we gonna wear.
And as long as we won, we were wearing the same jersey on us.
We was playing on the road trip.
So this was an actual jersey you wore In a game?
This, I, I wore some title quarterback.
I can't tell you what, what game it was.
This is a game jersey.
The big thing back when I played, when the game was over, all the youngsters would come outta the sands and once the chin strap and Coach Bolt didn't, nub was our equipment manager and he was trying to run kids down with the, and coach ball said, let 'em have their chance to run.
It don't cost much.
That's great.
Gimme a Sugar Bowl memory.
Let's see what Yeah.
You know, I know which one you're talking about.
Yeah, the rematch.
Yeah, the rematch.
It was, uh, three to nothing.
We had a couple other chances to kick field goals and we didn't.
So we, we went into the fourth quarter leading three to nothing with 10 minutes left in the game.
It was third and 12.
And coach thought, believed in punting on third down, and we was like third and 12.
He said, pun it.
So I kicked it.
That ball hit and went straight up in the air, about 10 feet high.
Billy saw the ball here, he caught it, and by the time he caught it, we had two Rebels to hit him.
He shook 'em off.
He took another step.
We had two more guys hit.
We shook him off and he kept shaking people off until I was a safety man.
And I was backtracking trying to run him by the bounds.
And I hit him up in here, shook me off like I was a little pucky and kept running for 89 yards.
They beat us seven to three, that game.
Seven to three.
You never seen grown men cry in a dressing room until you've seen that night.
The next week, LSU goes to Tennessee and gets upset 14, 13.
So both of us are nine one now, and they make us the host team pressure put on 'em.
And they had the players 30 seconds before halftime.
I hit Cowboy Woodworth.
It was 35 O, which is a four man pattern.
I ally get hit, but I saw Cowboy Open and all the center field was open and I hit him.
I hit him.
He had to jump for, he went 43 yards from a touchdown for 21 to nothing in that Sugar Bowl.
Well, good, good.
Yeah.
Thank you Coach.
Thank you.
I'm here with Anna Lauren Lauderdale from Shannon, Mississippi.
I had to come and stop by because Anna, I've got on a lot of print and this is a lot of print and I thought it was so beautiful and I wanted to stand beside it.
I know you've talked about it with the appraiser.
Tell us a little bit about this kimono.
Well, this kimono came from Japan from World War II.
My grandfather brought it back to my grandmother.
She was a seamstress herself.
So anything this is high quality material, she would've been a amazing Yes.
Talk about the appraiser today.
What did you learn?
I learned that it is valuable and it is from Japan because in my grandfather's information, it did say that he did go to Japan in the war.
Okay.
Not just South Pacific.
Okay.
Yeah.
As in the appraisal amount.
What did you, what did you get off of that, the value?
Um, It was valued at, um, $800 to $1,000.
Wow.
And that's what you have the value to me is the actual having it Yes.
Not the monetary value.
So we are not gonna sell.
No, this would be a family heirloom.
I would love it.
Well, I had to stand beside it.
I think it's a lovely work of art and I mean, we know it's clothing, but I just think it's so pretty and Thank you for bringing it.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Glad to be here.
Next up, we're stopping by Dwight Stevens shop in Aberdeen to talk with him about the appraisal business.
I love this town.
I love the people.
I think when I ran for mayor, they realized that, that I do love the town and I think Aberdeen has a great future.
We're trying to do some things now that's really going to make a change to Aberdeen and, and, um, in a good way.
I was asked once in federal court and uh, they asked me to come and be a professional witness.
And, uh, the federal judge just asked me, what makes you think that you are an expert witness?
And I say, well, I go out every two weeks and I sell very similar items.
I sell it and I do it year and year out.
I, I'm aware of what these things bring.
And so when I went in to appraise these things, uh, it's just because I've sold it before and at the, uh, at the showcase, you know, it's, it's because I've seen these things and I've sold these things.
And the other appraisers too, they're actually appraising from experience and, and seeing these things.
And the federal judge granted me as being an expert witness, which that goes with you the rest of your life.
And so I'm asked to do insurance appraisals.
I'm asked to do all kinds of appraisals other than the showcase.
And then also I, I do professional appraisals, people to settle estates and, and everything.
Just go in and put a appraised value on all the things in a house safe, just trying to get it appraised.
I do a lot of that.
It's just things you learn after years and years.
And a lot of it you have to research, a lot of reading and all.
Um, and then I still go back, I still have certain books.
I like to go back and look and just to be sure when I'm looking at something and I'm describing it, I wanna make sure that what I'm telling them is, is gonna be accurate.
I'll go back and look and find something just like it, you know, back through lots of really good old books.
Things that are, are no longer, uh, published.
And, but I have a, a library of those type books that I still use.
Well, I see you brought us a Salvador dolly today.
Yes, sir.
Can you tell us where you bought it?
Well, actually, my husband, he um, got it at a yard sale.
At a yard sale?
Yes.
How much, how much did he have to pay for it?
It was about $30.
$30.
$30.
Actually, you know, Salvador Dolly, they sold so many on cruise ships mm-hmm.
Which are fake.
Mm-hmm.
And they just keep printing 'em.
And, uh, they sell 'em for lots of money.
But what you have is a real one.
Ooh.
Yep.
This one is a real one.
And this one is, uh, Persistence of Memory.
It's signed, it's numbered over there and pencil.
Mm-hmm.
And it's signed here and, but I have researched this thing and it, and it, uh, this is a real one.
I'm telling you.
What would you think if I told you it was worth between $8,000 and 10,000?
I would love it.
I would love it.
I believe it is.
What, and yeah.
Oh my goodness.
$10,000.
Oh my goodness.
Now they'll be seeing you at yard sales everywhere from Now.
They will.
$30.
Really?
Yeah.
It, It's a good one.
Who was the person having the yard sale?
Well, it's, you know, one of those years when we have like a city to city yard sale along the highways and you can just, it's like a flea market thing, but it's probably like 25 miles long and you can just stop and Yeah, it's like once a year or so.
And it, I can, I don't know.
The person that I bought it from, I have been to, uh, art shows, uh, in Madrid.
Mm-hmm.
And, and I've seen a lot of, a lot of his work and a lot of his early work.
And then he, it was like some of the other artists in the latter part of their life, they, they even had other people do the painting and then they come down and they signed it.
But, uh, but this is at an earlier period of time in, in 1974, and he was doing a lot of this.
He did the signatures and, uh, I think you got a good buy.
I, I Thank you.
What do you think you did?
I think I did too.
What are you Going to do with it?
Sell it.
No doubt about that.
Hello.
Hi.
Thank y'all so much for being here today.
Robert and Rosie Cooper.
I'm Ron and this is Mark.
Hi Kennedy.
Yes.
Ron Locke and Mark Kennedy.
Mm-hmm.
Um, we have a beautiful piece right here.
I'd like to ask you, first of all, tell us how you acquired the piece.
Well, this belonged to my husband's mother.
She had this in her cabinet.
And one time I asked her about it and I said, that's, how did you happen to choose that?
And she said, I just thought it was pretty.
Wow.
Well, she made an incredibly great choice.
First of all, it is from New Orleans and it was in, um, Sophie Newcomb Memorial School, which was an adjunct to Tulane.
Um, I have, um, been doing estate sales for 50 years and, um, I've probably only had about five pieces of Sophie Newcomb pottery.
Now, one of the major re ways that you know it is that it has an N and it has a big C. Mm-hmm.
That's not a circle, it's a C and that is Sophie Newcomb College.
Most of them are in matte colors, which this is of course.
Um, and this was done during the arts and crafts movement.
So you're talking about the, uh, late 1890s, early 1900's.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Most new compati pieces are probably best known for the fact that they tell you a story on the bottom that tells you when it tells you who, it tells you that a mold is made.
And it also tells you, you know, some other things about the matting and all that type thing.
Mm-hmm.
You have a lovely, lovely piece and you know, your mom did well.
Oh, good.
Okay.
Um, and thank you.
I would, I would value this piece today at $3,000.
$3,000.
Yes.
I mean, it's, it's incredibly wonderful.
And, um, there's so few pieces of it around these days, you know?
Okay.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, you're most Welcome.
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing it, because it just made my day.
'cause I don't see it very often.
Yeah.
We're gonna set this piece down here and the little pieces I'm going to do.
Um, and what do you, you have more pieces set?
I have a set of six.
Mm-hmm.
Set of six.
And it just come from your mother as well.
I'm not really sure where they Came from.
They're in a box.
They're in a box.
That's as good as any, you have 'em.
Yeah.
Yes.
Um, you know, this is a piece of McCarty pottery and, uh, if you live in Mississippi and you collect pottery, you know about McCarty pottery.
There's a lot of it around and a lot of people that collect, collected, but there's not a lot of it around, or that I've seen is signed like this piece.
Mm-hmm.
This piece is signed McCarty Marigold, Mississippi.
I think your little set of six, which you don't see that often.
Have you seen many of these Ron?
No.
And I'm telling you another thing.
I haven't seen many with the glaze like that.
You know, usually they're matte finished.
And for this piece might have been, you know, they made a mold from it.
Mm-hmm.
This was all just freehand on wheel.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, I think this little set, since you have the five others to go with it, in today's market, especially being made in Marigold and signed that way, would probably bring at least a thousand dollars.
Oh my goodness.
And possibly much higher.
And what are you seeing as far as things being more valuable now, or to collectibles?
To me, you know, 2007 was a horrible time for antiques.
They, they went, I, I won't even say where they went, but they went way down, you know, and for me, I am really seeing in most everything that things are really, um, they're really coming back slowly but surely.
How do y'all feel about that?
Absolutely.
You feel that same way?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I think that, um, boy, there was, after 2007 that was, that was something we don't want to go through again.
I don't think Far really.
It's 2007 to 2010.
10, yeah.
Yeah.
They've hit rock bottom and the only way they could go then was up.
So certain markets dipped, um, and will never come back, you know.
Hummel Figurines, China, like you mentioned.
But what we've seen is there've been a couple of dips.
The first one was in basically the late nineties with the internet, when people realize that the stuff that they had in their house was everywhere.
Yes.
Instead of just in their house and, you know, with eBay and all that.
And then we, uh, saw another one in, um, eight to 10, somewhere in there with the housing recession.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and then, you know, it's, it is very cyclical, but it's, you know, it kind of mirrors the markets in some respects.
But, you know, the internet actually hurt antiques.
It did.
Yeah, it did.
It, it, it took the price right out of 'em because they would come to auctions, they'd see things and they wanted it, and the person sitting next to 'em wanted it.
None of 'em knew what it was worth.
They just wanted it.
And they'd get in these big bid wars.
But now they go and they research it and they know what it brings everywhere else and they're not going to pay any more than that part.
It changed the commerce.
But let's talk about the good side of that because, you know, we're running through third party bidding websites and so we're getting bidders from all over the world that would've never found us in New Orleans prior, you know, Well, y'all, Excuse me.
No, that, that's right.
It is sort of made up in one way, but I still love the old days.
But the, uh, because we had some, we had some tremendous auction and do now, and we have those people, but we have to put up with those sites that handle this for us.
Now, yes, we will have five to 700 people online, but we used to have 500 people sitting out in the yard of those big houses where we were selling things and the sky was a limit and, and nothing to hold it back.
I would say from our perspective, more is like millennials.
I think.
While if you're selling and not getting the return you used to it, it's good to open up the market.
'cause we want younger people to get interested in antiques.
It's one of the reasons like why we, when we did this show, we want our generation to get involved because that's the only way prices are gonna continue to improve.
So That's right.
It's not always bad for there to be lower prices to get people involved and interested.
And then if we keep building on that, maybe we'll see higher prices in the future.
Now we're with Katherine Roadman From Jackson.
who has just a beautiful piece here.
Tell me first how you acquired it and what it is and then what you learned.
I've grown up looking at it.
It was hanging encased in glass in my grandmother's home.
I found out today that this is a pipe bag and it appears that it was made by Native American community, but it couldn't be identified to which, which one Right.
Which tribe these designs on the front.
Um, the appraiser said, it looks like maybe it's a flag.
And then on the other side we were looking at it and this is the side that was not displayed uhhuh in the home And we both guessed strawberries.
Right, Right.
That's right.
So there at least three people who have seen this and said, that looks like strawberries.
Did he give you an idea of, uh, time period when it might have been made?
So inside the bag it's hand stitched and there is a lining kind of below the seam that looks to be of an old dress.
He guessed that it probably wasn't any newer than a thirties era piece.
Nice.
What about value?
Did he give you an appraisal loan?
The appraisal value he gave was between, I think three and $5,000.
But it's got sentimental value to me.
And so I'm not really sure if I would let it go for that.
A lot of times it's sentimental value is priceless season.
Mr.
Franklin, we're glad to see you today.
Glad you came out to Mississippi Antique Showcase.
I see you brought some Mississippi sports history with you today.
I did this, this these, uh, some of the memorabilia of my uncle Clay Hopper, who was a ball player and manager in the big leagues.
I believe you told me that when you were a little boy, he came to your little league Game.
He did come to one of my little league games and I hit a home run.
And after the game he said, son, let me see your hands.
And I showed him my hands and he said, I'm sorry, you're never gonna make it.
They gotta be a lot larger than that to play major league baseball.
So you brought this bat.
I guess we could start with it.
Well, this is a memorial bat that that was presented to him, uh, with his name engraved on it.
I believe it's, uh, uh, Hillerich and Bradfield.
Is that what it is?
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Got the seal right on it.
And then you have this watch that belonged to your uncle.
That watch was presented to him as manager of the year of the Montreal baseball team.
Can you have this picture of him and a lady?
Tell us about that.
Well, that's when Clay was the manager of Hollywood Stars.
Uh, and the lady is Hedda Hopper.
Hedda Hopper was a gossip colonist who was famous for her hats that she wore.
They met as a promotion for the baseball team.
He wore her hat.
She wore his hat.
And then you have like a, a scrapbook here with stories about him.
And I see him and Jackie right there in a, with like a real photo It that is, uh, a photograph of Clay with Jackie Robinson when he managed them, uh, for the Brooklyn Dodgers.
Well, there's some great items.
The bat, you know, usually when you're talking about big league bats, you're talking about a game used bat.
Right?
But in this case, it's the kind of bat you'd only get once in a lifetime.
I think this bat in today's market is probably somewhere between $700 and $1,000.
Goodness.
The watch, which I think may be 14 karat gold, it's made by the Longines Company.
The watch is probably somewhere in the thousand, uh, dollar range.
Um, good.
The real photos, uh, you know, this photo is probably something that would bring $150, something like that.
And in your scrapbook, that's probably another $200, $250.
You know, if while he had this picture and Jackie was around, he could got him to sign it, then that would've took it on up into, um, a different um, level.
But the whole group, when you put it all together, um, and if you sold it as a group, you'd probably be looking at maybe around $2,000.
I'm glad you brought it out to, uh, share it with us.
And, uh, I know the folks in Mississippi will enjoy seeing it on the show.
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