(upbeat music) - [Wendy] In this quiet cemetery in Lititz, Lancaster County is the grave of one of America's pioneers.

You've heard his name in history class.

He founded a town that is now a state capital.

Do you know which capital?

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Test Your knowledge of the Commonwealth's people, places, and products.

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(upbeat music) (bell chimes) (upbeat music continues) (upbeat music) Now let's get the game started.

Here's the host of "The Pennsylvania Game", Lynn Hinds.

(crowd applauds) - Thank you very much!

(crowd cheers) Thank you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!

(crowd applauds) Thank you!

Thanks to our Girl Scouts, troop 1195 from Boalsburg.

Thanks, Wendy Williams, our announcer.

Glad you're all here.

We got some tough questions for a tough and colorful panel.

Wearing a dark blue coat, here's Bernie Asbell!

(crowd cheers) She's an attorney who practices in Bellefonte, Pennsylvania.

She's Maureen Gallagher.

(crowd cheers) He is a radio announcer who talks to his cat a lot.

Kevin Nelson!

- Thank you.

(crowd cheers) Boy, I don't know.

With that dark blue and that red and that yellow sport coat, (whistles) boy!

What capital did this Pennsylvania guy found, is the question.

See if you can figure it out.

- [Wendy] Here in this cemetery in Lititz, Lancaster County is the final resting place of a man whose name you've heard in history class.

(gentle music) If you know why John Sutter is famous, you can guess what state capitally founded.

Was it a Topeka, Kansas, B, Santa Fe, New Mexico, C, Cheyenne, Wyoming, or D, Sacramento, California?

- Well, it was one of them there state capitals that John Sutter founded.

And which one is the question?

Bernard Asbell, you're first.

- If we knew what he did, we'd know which capital, wouldn't we?

- [Lynn] That's what it says here.

- Well, I think I know why, but I'm not gonna say why.

I'm just gonna say it was Sacramento.

- [Lynn] Okay.

That is the capital of California.

- That is the capital of California.

- Maureen, it's your turn to pick a letter.

- Well, not because Bernie did, but because I think it had something to do with the Gold Rush, I'm gonna go with D, Sacramento also.

- You're sitting with a gold coat on, are you gonna fall for that stuff, Kevin?

- Well, when you show a graveyard like that.

See, Sacramento, anybody could say Sacramento.

- Sure.

- 'Cause the guy was involved in the Gold Rush.

So naturally you'd think Sacramento, but you'd take all that money- - [Lynn] Mm-hmm.

- And you wouldn't go to Kansas, would you?

(crowd laughs) Unless he lost a bet.

How about Santa Fe, New Mexico?

- Okay, we have a D, a D, and a B. John Sutter.

Do you remember his name from history class?

Do you remember his name, girls, from History class, do you?

What's the answer?

- [Wendy] The answer is?

D, Sacramento, California.

John Sutter was having a mill built on his estate when they discovered gold.

The 80,000 49ers who rushed to California bankrupted Sutter.

He gave up and moved to Lititz, where he spent the rest of his life trying to recoup his losses.

(gentle music) John Sutter, the rugged pioneer whose name was synonymous with the Gold Rush of 1849 is buried here in Lititz, Pennsylvania.

- You find out the darnedest things about Pennsylvania.

I mean, here's the guy, Sutter's Mill, everybody's read about in history class, he actually came back and retired to Pennsylvania when they took over his land.

Let's go to this next one because this is about a guy named Chuck.

Charles Brockden Brown, really.

- [Wendy] Charles Brockden Brown was born in Philadelphia in 1771.

(gentle music) In the 39 years of his life, he managed to become the first American to accomplish something.

What did he do?

Was it to A, earn a living as a writer, B, assassinate a public official, C, obtain a US patent, or D, be ordained a Catholic priest?

(gentle music) - Those are four of the most bodacious choices, Maureen, I've ever heard.

(crowd laughs) He lived to be 39 years old.

Born in 1771, Philadelphia.

Charles Brockden Brown What was he the first American to do?

- I hate to be the one to say it.

I'll go with B just because I really have no clue.

- [Lynn] Okay, assassinate a public official.

Do you have any public official in mind?

Oh, nevermind.

Kevin, go ahead.

- Now, I'll ask a question, make it look like I know what I'm talking.

What year was this again?

- [Lynn] This was 1771, Philadelphia.

- Oh, okay.

- It's when he was- - [Lynn] Brown was the name.

- Bernie, you still can't earn a living as a writer, can you?

- [Bernie] No.

That's right.

(people laugh) - How about obtain a US patent?

- Okay.

- How about that?

- He said Inventively.

- Okay.

Yeah!

(laughs) Okay, Tom Swift.

Go ahead, Bernie.

It's your turn again.

- 1771.

- [Lynn] 71.

He only lived to be 39 years old, but he did manage to eek out or to do whatever it was in those 39 years, to assassinate an official, earn a living as a writer, obtain a patent, or be ordained.

- Can't believe that nobody ever assassinated one of the king's people before the revolution.

But however, I think he hung on the gallows when he was 39 years old.

- Okay, there is a certain amount of difference among those four choices.

What did you pick at home?

Let's see what's right.

- [Wendy] The answer is a earn a living as a writer.

From his first novel in 1798, readers were fascinated with the gothic prose of Charles Brockden Brown.

That novel, "Wieland" was the story of a man who goes mad and murders his family.

Brown influenced such later writers as Cooper, Hawthorne, and Poe.

(gentle music) - This guy wrote real gothic tales about murder and mayhem in the woods and influenced Poe and Hawthorne and all those guys.

But he was the first guy to earn, 'cause he only lived to 39, 'cause you can't earn enough groceries to live very long.

But he did earn his living strictly as a writer.

Charles Brockden Brown.

- You told me tonight there are some questions aimed right at me that you- - Sure.

And one was about a writer.

- Oh my!

(Bernie laughs) - Let's do another one about a writer.

We'll see if we can get Bernie twice in a row.

Who's this writer?

- [Wendy] Philip Klass is a professor of writing at Penn State who practices what he teaches.

Using the pen name William Tenn, he writes popular science fiction novels.

Hid stories explore the human situation with a rare sense of humor.

Philip Klass tells his students to get their readers out of their humdrum lives for a couple of hours to live an exciting experience they can't have any other way.

(gentle music) So one of his students, David Morrell, wrote a book that created a character.

Did he write A, Kermit the Frog, B, Spencer the Detective, C, Marcus Welby the doctor, or D, Rambo the Vietnam vet?

(gentle music) - David Morrell, who was a student of Philip Klass, wrote a novel and created a character.

Let's go down to our favorite character, Kevin Nelson.

- Oh, thank heavens I don't have to go first.

Oh!

Hi-ho!

- Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Four interesting characters.

Kermit the Frog, Spencer the detective, Marcus Welby the doc, or Rambo the Vietnam vet.

Which did he, David Morrell, create?

- I'm gonna go, just because I admire Sly Stallone's method acting.

To be or what?

- Yeah.

- Rambo.

(people laugh) No idea.

- Bernard of Asbell, what's your selection here?

- Huh!

- [Lynn] "Huh!"

he says.

- You know what?

I'm gonna be very embarrassed.

You know, I'm a colleague of Philip Klass.

He teaches in the same program that I do.

- [Lynn] Yeah.

- I don't know this one.

- [Lynn] Uh huh.

David Morrell.

- Well, I think David Morrell would've did Marcus Welby.

- Marcus Welby!

We have a Rambo and a Marcus Welby and a Maureen Gallagher.

What do you say?

- This is a tough one!

- [Lynn] They're all tough tonight!

(people laugh) - Just because I think he might have to be a little too old to have created Marcus Welby, I'm gonna go with Rambo the Vietnam vet also.

- Well, who created Kermit the Frog if it wasn't David Morrell.

What did you pick at home?

Which character did David Morrell make?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, Rambo the Vietnam vet.

(crowd applauds) David Morrell brought the ex-Green Beret fighter to life in his first novel, "First Blood."

In 1982, the novel was made into a movie, and Sly Stallone brought Rambo to life on the screen.

David Morrell said thanks to Philip Klass, his former mentor, by dedicating the novel to him.

- So Rambo was dedicated.

Hey, is that insight?

Maureen just went ahead with a two.

Maureen, you're doing okay!

Yeah.

How long?

(crowd applauds) Let's hear it for her.

She's doing all right.

The other two guys are close behind with one, but Maureen has two.

How long have you lived in Pennsylvania?

- Well, actually, I was born outside of Philadelphia, but moved to Florida when I was just one.

So I've come back to Pennsylvania since May.

- It's that first year of life in Philadelphia that gave you that innate sense of what Pennsylvania is.

- That's so true!

Just those historical roots.

- And Kevin, how long have you had that yellow sport coat?

- What time is it?

(people laugh) - [Lynn] Did you buy that just for us?

- Just for you.

- Wow!

- Just for you.

- That's impressive!

Mystery Clue Pennsylvania time, folks!

We got three clues through the course of the show and if you can figure out who the Mystery Pennsylvanian is, write it on the first line, if it's clue one or whatever.

This Mystery Pennsylvanian was born in Western Pennsylvania in 1876.

She was a doctor's wife who loved a mystery.

Born in Western Pennsylvania, 1876.

She was a doctor's wife who loved a mystery.

If you know, write it down.

If you don't, there will be other clues.

This is about a tree!

Yes, it is, indeed!

I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree.

Let's listen.

- [Wendy] This tree called the Tiadaghton Elm stood at the confluence of Pine Creek and the west branch of the Susquehanna in Clinton County.

Under this elm, pioneer settlers met on July 4th, 1776 and drew up a resolution.

What did they resolve?

A, independence from England, B, peace with the Seneca Indians, C, to move back to Connecticut, or D, loyalty to King George III?

(sprightly music) - Test your knowledge of Pennsylvania history, because it was on July 4th, 1776, a day that we will live forever, that the citizens of Clinton County, the settlers on the west branch of the Susquehanna, met under this big Tiadaghton Elm, they called it, and drew up a resolution.

But on what did they resolve on that July 4th, 1776, Bernie Asbell?

Independence from England, peace with the Seneca Indians, to resolve to move back to Connecticut, or loyalty to King George the I-I-I, sometimes call the third.

Bernie, what do you think?

- I've stopped thinking.

- [Lynn] I see!

You're gonna do intuit the answer here.

- On July 4th, '76?

- [Lynn] 1776.

That's right.

You don't write this down, you just pick a letter.

- No, that's right.

- That's right, we've got you totally confused.

- You see how nervous I am?

- Yes.

(crowd laughs) - Yeah.

- [Lynn] Mm-hmm.

- I think they declared their loyalty to King George I-I-I.

- [Lynn] I see.

Okay.

That'd be a little different from what they were doing elsewhere in the country- - That's right!

- About that date.

- And these were rebels.

(indistinct) rebels.

- Maureen Gallagher.

Clinton County up in the sort of, what, northeastern part of the state a little bit, I guess.

- Mm-hmm.

- A little north of central, anyway.

What'd they do?

- I think I've read about this tree in one of those Pennsylvania guide books that I studied when I moved here from Florida, I think I'm gonna go with B, peace with the Indians.

- [Lynn] Seneca Indians.

She's been reading guide books, Kevin.

Has she sucked you in on that story or (laughs) - Well, you mentioned these are gonna be hard questions and then back on that Sutter question, I didn't pick California 'cause I knew him from California.

- Yeah.

- Now you got me because the thing you would never do on July 4th would be loyalty to King George.

So obviously, that would have to be the answer.

- Not necessarily.

(people laugh) - And Independence from England is too easy.

I'd like to move back to Connecticut though, myself.

- [Lynn] Okay.

- In fact, I think I will.

- There were of course settlers from Connecticut that moved down here a lot.

But what did they do in Clinton County on July 4th in '76?

- [Wendy] The answer is A, independence from England.

Of course, the declaration down in Philadelphia got all the headlines, but quite independently, the folks in Clinton County declared their own independence, July 4th, 1776.

(sprightly music) - That's, of course, the intriguing thing.

They had no idea that they were doing the same thing down in Philadelphia.

They just got together and said, "By cracky!

We're gonna be independent from England!"

And then they read later about the one that they did down in Philly.

They got all the headlines, of course, but- - [Bernie] But it's under that tree that started the revolution.

- Well, it started in Clinton County.

- Yeah.

- All right.

If I were to ask you, Kevin Nelson, having been on the show before, but never with your yellow coat on, to name a popular name that's an answer to a lot of questions, what would you name?

- Benjamin Franklin.

- Benjamin Franklin!

- You betcha!

- This is a question about a guy named Ben Franklin.

The Ben Franklin.

- [Wendy] In 1737, Benjamin Franklin published a list of 228 synonyms for a human activity.

"The Dictionary of American Slang" lists 353 entries, the most for any term.

Is the activity A, overeating, B, getting drunk, C, making love, or D, earning money?

(gentle music) - Well popular activities, all, but "The Dictionary of American Slang" today lists 353 entries.

But Ben Franklin put together his own little dictionary and he had 228 synonyms for the same thing.

So the question is, which one is it?

Is it overeating, is it getting drunk, is it making love, or is it earning money?

Maureen Gallagher, it is your privilege to go first on this one.

- My privilege.

- Yes.

- I just can't resist.

I think old Ben Franklin had it in him, so I'm gonna say C. - He did have a gleam in his eye for his good wife Debbie.

Yes, Kevin, what are you going for here?

- Used to go out with somebody that could do all four of those in an evening.

- Yeah.

Yeah.

(people laugh) Yeah.

Please, don't elaborate on that.

(Lynn laughs) - You know, from some of the things I've read about Ben Franklin though, I think you're absolutely right.

That was one of his favorite things to do and he probably came up with a lot of words to talk about it.

- He did hold hands once in a while, yes.

Bernie?

- Kevin, did you see "Broadcast News?"

- [Kevin] No, I did not.

- Oh, yep.

I've learned to pull down my coat and sit on it now.

- Sit on it.

- That's right.

- That's the big thing for anchors was to sit on your (indistinct) - I know 478 ways of saying getting drunk and I'm sure Ben Franklin had half of that.

- [Lynn] 228.

- Yeah.

- You think it was getting drunk with the synonyms.

- Getting drunk.

- Yeah.

- Well, what did ol' Ben write about?

Let's see.

- [Wendy] The answer is B, getting drunk.

Franklin's list in 1737 included these synonyms for drunk, cock-eyed, pigeon-eyed, fuzzled, lappy, oiled, stewed, soaked, buzzed, and Cherry Mary.

(pleasant music) - Those were, I thought, some of the more charming answers from Ben Franklin's 228.

Cherry Mary.

- [Kevin] That's who I was talking about earlier.

- I see!

(people laugh) I see.

Well, let's see what the score is doing.

It's a close score.

Kevin has one, but Bernie and Maureen are slightly ahead with two each.

Let's hear it for Bernie and Maureen.

(crowd cheers) Just a little small applause for Kevin.

He likes to be encouraged.

Just a little tiny one.

There you go.

That's for you, Kevin.

Mystery clue number two, friends, for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Her stories and novels combine detection with humor.

Some call her the founder of the "Had I but known" school of crime novels.

Her stories and novels combined detection with humor.

Some call her the founder of the "Had I but known" school of crime novels.

Clue one was she was born in Western Pennsylvania in 1876 and she was a doctor's wife who loved a mystery.

If you know the answer, write it down on line two.

If you don't, just sit there and look puzzled 'cause I don't care.

If you wanna write to us, I do care, and I care to give you our address.

If you write to "The Pennsylvania Game", we will get it.

If you address it in care of the Wagner Annex University Park, PA 16802.

We're talking about a she who was a writer, obviously, and crime novels or mysteries were the genre, as they say.

When is the last time you were in Washington, DC?

You were there lately, weren't you?

- [Maureen] Just last weekend.

- Well, let's see what you observed about a certain monument in Washington.

- [Wendy] Before Charles Hall poured the first commercial aluminum in Pittsburgh on Thanksgiving Day, 1888, aluminum was too expensive for common use.

But in 1884, a special piece of aluminum, nine inches long, was cast in Philadelphia for use in Washington, DC.

Was it for A, Thomas Jefferson's nose, B, Abe Lincoln's beard, C, The White House weather vane, or D, Washington Monument's peak?

- Well, they did cast the aluminum, Charles Hall on Thanksgiving Day in 1888 in Pittsburgh, but they got a special piece of aluminum for a monument in DC.

And was it for Tommy Jefferson's nose, Abe Lincoln's beard, the White House weather vane, or Washington Monument's peak?

Kevin Nelson, you get to go first.

- Well, I'm leaning toward Abraham.

I remember when I visited Washington, DC, I had no idea the man was that big.

- [Lynn] I see.

But he is sizable, right?

- You could probably take that thing, put a nice point on it, and put it on top of the Washington Monument.

- You think so?

- I would think.

Sure.

- [Lynn] Nine inches.

Okay.

Bernard?

What do you say, Bernie?

- Well, I thought that Abe Lincoln's beard might need a lightning rod 'cause it was so tall.

- [Lynn] Mm-hmm.

- But that made me think of Washington Monument.

You guys are both going with a nine inch tip of Washington's Monument.

- Yeah, sure.

- Maureen, having been there lately.

- Well, the only monuments I inspected last weekend were the shopping mall ones.

(people laugh) So I'm gonna go with B, Abe Lincoln's beard.

- I think if I were going, I'd probably go with Tom Jefferson's nose 'cause it's probably about nine inches long if you figure.

But that could be.

I don't know.

What is the right answer?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, the peak of the Washington Monument.

(crowd cheers) After the cornerstone was laid on July 4th, 1848, work stopped at 150 feet.

But in 1876, patriotism flourished and the Washington Monument was dedicated at 1885.

The top nine inches is made of Pennsylvania aluminum.

(gentle music) - That's the amazing thing to me.

They started that thing and it work just stopped for years and years and years until 1876 when everybody was, "Well, it's 100 years, so let's, you know?"

And they started building it again and then capped it off with Pennsylvania aluminum.

So next time you're standing there at the base of that Washington Monument (laughs) you can feel just a little touch of pride because Pennsylvania aluminium is right on up there.

I still like Thomas Jefferson's nose.

(people laugh) That would've been a better answer!

This next one is one that you may get if you know words.

And I worry whether you know the right words or not, but it's an interesting question.

Take a look.

- Pittsburgh had 17 in operation in the interval between the Civil War and the late 1890s.

All were funicular.

The question is 17 what?

Were they A, locks and dams, B, toll bridges, C, steel mills, or D, inclined planes?

(gentle music) - Pittsburgh had 17 in operation in the interval between the Civil War and the late 1890s.

That would've been a period of about what, 25 years.

All were funicular.

The question is 17 what were in operation?

Locks and dams, toll bridges, steel mills, or inclined planes?

Maureen, I believe.

No, it's Bernie again.

Bernie, it's your turn to go first.

- Is it?

Ah!

- Yeah, it is.

It is indeed.

I got a feeling we're gonna hear a made up answer here, folks.

Yes, go ahead, Bernie.

- Inclined planes are the ones that take off from the airport and sort of tip?

- No, no, no, no, no.

I don't think that's what they mean by inclined planes, no.

- Guess it's not.

Well, there's an Italian song, but funicular funicula.

- [Lynn] What does that have to do with inclined planes?

- Well, I'm gonna choose D. - [Lynn] Because you like Italian songs?

Maureen?

- Yeah.

(people laugh) - The logic on this program, you know, isn't always...

Yes.

What do you say?

- Well, along those same lines, I'm gonna go with A, locks and dams 'cause I really don't have a clue what funicular is.

- Because what do lock masters sing but "Funiculi funicular."

(people laugh) Kevin?

- Oh, it's easy.

- Yes?

- What would you say, you're driving down the road and there's no change in your pocket and you come across a toll bridge?

You go, "Funicular!"

- Yeah!

(people laugh) Right!

Absolutely!

(people laugh) 17 in operation between the Civil War and the 1890s.

17 what?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, inclined planes.

(crowd cheers) Three inclined planes still operate in Pennsylvania.

This is the Duquesne Incline built in Pittsburgh in 1877.

Nearby, also scaling Mount Washington, the Monongahela Incline is seven years older.

The third is in Johnstown, built in 1891.

All are funicular, that is with a cable using the weight of the down car to help raise the up car.

Each is a great tourist attraction, but is also used by residents as a means of commuting.

The Mon was built by the father-daughter team of John and Caroline Endres.

The other two were built by Caroline's husband, Samuel Diescher.

Pennsylvania's inclines provide a great ride and a spectacular view.

(gentle music) - Great.

That's a great view!

- Yeah.

In Europe, you find those.

There's a wonderful one outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico.

But they're just such fun and they seem to be disappearing.

- Well, two of in Pittsburgh, one's still in Johnstown, and they are indeed.

- Yeah.

- Well, "Are you all well-insured?"

is the next question.

And with what company?

That's the other question.

Let's see if you know this one.

- [Wendy] In 1879, a four year old insurance company that John Dryden founded in neighboring New Jersey opened its first Pennsylvania office on Walnut Street in Philadelphia.

(upbeat music) In 1896, the company destined to become the world's largest insurance company adopted a symbol.

Was that symbol A, an umbrella, B, a rock, (upbeat music continues) C, a pair of hands, or D, a firefighter's hat?

(upbeat music continues) - Okay, it was found in New Jersey in 1879, but Philadelphia played a large role in its growth and it became the largest insurance company.

But what was its symbol?

Maureen, that's the only thing you have to know.

- I think I'm gonna go with the rock.

- [Lynn] The rock.

Okay.

She's going with a rock.

Kevin?

- Um.

- [Lynn] "Um," he says.

- I just, I don't believe that.

I'm gonna say a pair of hands.

- [Lynn] A pair of hands.

Okay.

- I believe that Philadelphia was a great center of creating fire insurance.

- [Lynn] Yeah.

It also rains in Philadelphia and they use umbrellas, but what's the answer?

- Yes, it does.

- [Lynn] I don't know.

- [Wendy] The answer is B, a rock.

The logo, based on the Rock of Gibraltar, has grown along with Prudential and Pennsylvania played a major role.

Founded with the idea of enabling working families to be able to afford insurance, Prudential wrote its first $1 million policy for a Philadelphia family.

(upbeat music) - For the score, in descending order, Bernie has four, Maureen has three, Kevin has two.

They're all doing a good job.

Let's hear for our panel.

Give them a little encouragement.

(crowd cheers) Not too much encouragement!

That's enough!

Clue number three to our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

From the day she climbed a circular staircase, her enormous success was assured.

From the day she climbed a circular staircase, her enormous success was assured.

And she was enormously successful.

Kevin Nelson, do you have any idea in the whole world who this mystery writer was, born in western Pennsylvania?

- Did she injure her funicular when she climbed?

- [Lynn] No, she didn't.

- Nancy Drew was all I can think of.

- [Lynn] Nancy Drew!

- And I'm not sure what she drew.

- Maureen, any ideas on this one?

- That just made something click.

Carolyn Keene.

- [Lynn] Carolyn Keene!

Bernie?

- Who wrote "Nancy Drew."

- Another writer, Bernie.

Pennsylvania writer, Bernie!

- Oh, Betsy Ross.

I don't know.

- "Betsy Ross," he said!

Betsy Ross!

Well, who was this famous...

The school of "Had I but known" crime novels.

Sounds like Agatha Christie to me, but she's not from western Pennsylvania.

Who's our mystery Pennsylvanian?

- [Wendy] Mary Roberts Rinehart was born in 1876 in the city of Allegheny before it became part of Pittsburgh.

Trained as a nurse, Mary Roberts was just 19 when she married Dr. Stanley Rinehart.

She was ahead of her time in combining family and career, for Mary Roberts Rinehart was a prolific writer.

With the success of her first novel, "The Circular Staircase" in 1908, she went from being a housewife who scribbled stories to being a professional writer.

Detective stories, novels, screenplays, and Broadway plays flowed from her pen.

She was on the best seller list longer and more often than any American author up until her death in 1958 at age 82.

Mary Roberts Rinehart, a famous Pennsylvanian.

(gentle music) - Yeah, she was quite a mystery writer!

She does remind you of Agatha Christie and the school of "Had I but known" mystery.

Agatha Christie always says, "What you really didn't know was, you see, when the inspector went to the son..." She does that a little bit too, and it gets a little aggravating.

I went back and read a couple of her novels in preparation for this show, including "The Circular Staircase," and I can see why it was popular at the time.

But you gotta force yourself a little bit 'cause there's an awful lot of detail and an awful lot of stuff.

But Mary Roberts Rinehart's a pretty famous writer.

I'm surprised... You started to write her name.

- On two, I wrote Mary and crossed it out.

I thought she came a little later, 20 years later than that.

- Well, she lived to be 80-some years old.

- Yeah, I remember, when I was already magazine writing, her name on the cover of current magazines.

"Good Housekeeping," I believe, used to serialize her.

- Yeah.

- How do you remember?

You don't remember that?

- I see them in antique stores.

(people laugh) - I hope you all had a good time.

Antique stores!

Thanks for joining us and playing "The Pennsylvania Game".

We hope you'll join us next time when we all gather right here again to play "The Pennsylvania Game".

See you then!

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