>> Ted: DONALD TRUMP CLAIMING HE'S IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION WHILE AS PRESIDENT.

TONIGHT WITH THE BLACK AND HISPANIC CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE WANT TO SEE FROM STATE LAWMAKERS THIS SESSION AND HOW BEST TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN ARIZONA TEACHERS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ARE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.

THANK YOU.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

PHOENIX OFFICIALS ARE ASKING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW THE CITY TO REFORM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITHOUT CONTENT DECREE.

THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC REPORTS A CITY SENT A LETTER ASKING THE DOJ NOT TO REQUIRE FEDERAL OVERSIGHT FROM A JUDGE OR INDEPENDENT MODERN FOR.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS INVESTIGATING THE PHOENIX PD OVER CLAIMS OF EXCESSIVE CLAIMS OF FORCE AND THAT INVESTIGATION HAS GONE ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS.

THEY SAID THE CITY HAS SHOWN, QUOTE, A COMMITMENT TO REFORM THAT WARRANTS A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN THE DOJ AND THAT THE ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL APPROACH TO POLICE REFORM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR FEEDBACK.

>>> TOMORROW IS SHERIFF PAUL PENZONE LAST DAY IN OFFICE.

COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ACCEPTS HIS LETTER OF RESIGNATION YESTERDAY AND AT THE SAME TIME BEGAN TAKING APPLICATIONS TO FINISH HIS TERM.

PENZONE IS A DEMOCRAT AND THE BOARD IS REQUIRED TO REPLACE HIM WITH A DEMOCRAT.

>>> THE METRO PHOENIX AREA FINISHED WITH AN INFLATION RATE OF 2.7%, AMONG THE LOWEST RATES FOR MAJOR URBAN AREAS IN THE COUNTRY.

THE NUMBER COMES FROM THE LABOR STATISTICS.

LAST YEAR'S RATE DROPPED FROM A 9.5% RATE THE PREVIOUS YEAR WHICH PEAKED AT 13%.

NATIONALLY, INFLATION INCREASED 3.4% IN 2023, HIGHER THAN THE GOAL BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE 6.5% RATE IN 2022.

THEY MAY HOLD OFF ON CUTTING INTEREST RATES THIS COMING MONTHS.

>>> THE FAA GROUNDED ALL BOEING MAX JETS THAT HAVE THE DOOR PLUGS THAT BLEW A HOLE IN AN ALASKAJET.

THIS AFFECTS ALASKA AND UNITED.

UNITED AIRLINED AIRLINES TOLD SOME WOULD CONTINUE BY SWITCHING TO OTHER PLANES.

>>> THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA RELEASED AN UPDATE OF THE FINANCES AFTER THE SCHOOL REPORTED A $240 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL DUE IN LARGE PART TO OVERSPENDING ON ATHLETICS.

TODAY'S UPDATE SAYS THE U OF A HAS NO IMMEDIATE PLAN OF ELIMINATING SPORTS.

A HIRING FREEZE WILL CONTINUE AND THEY'RE SPENDING SCORE SPORT'S-RELATED PROJECTS.

IT INCLUDED A VARIETY OF REVENUE-GENERATING IDEAS.

>>> THE FEDERAL APPEAL'S COURT CONSIDERING DONALD TRUMP'S CLAIM THAT HE IS IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION FROM ANY AND ALL ACTS HE TOOK AS PRESIDENT.

JOHNING US NOW TO ASSESS THIS LEGAL STRATEGY IS PAUL CHARLTON A PARTNER IN DENTON'S LAW FIRM AND FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY.

PAUL, IT'S A PLEASURE OF HAVING YOU HERE AND THIS ONE WITHIN I'M OTHER LITTLE FLABBERGASTED ABOUT THIS ONE.

LET'S GET INTO DETAILS HERE.

WHAT ARE THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S ARGUMENTS REGARDING IMMUNITY BECAUSE HE WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT?

>> SO THAT SAME FLABBERGASTED THAT YOU FEEL IS THE SAME ONE THAT YOU HEARD EXPRESSED BY ALL THREE MEMBERS OF THIS COURT OF APPEALS.

WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS ARGUING IS THAT EVERYTHING I DID AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I'M IMMUNE.

I CANNOT BE PROSECUTED.

I HAVE A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD AND THE ONLY EXCEPTION SO THAT IS IF I AM IMPEACHED BY THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND CONVICTED BY THE SENATE.

IF THAT OCCURS, THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT I COULD BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME AND THE HYPOTHETICAL THAT COMES FROM THAT, THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS WERE THE DIFFICULT TIME, I THINK, WITH ANSWERS BY TRUMP'S LAWYERS.

>> Ted: I WANT TO GET TO THE HYPOTHETICALS BECAUSE HEARING YOU SAY THAT, LET'S SAY THAT THERE ARE A ENOUGH REPUBLICANS WHO ARE AFRAID OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE TRUMP BASE THEY HOLD THAT THEY WOULD NOT VOTE IN THE SENATE TO CONVICT.

THAT MEANS HE COULD DO ANYTHING ANYTHING LIKE WHAT, UP TO AND MURDER BECAUSE HE WASN'T IMPEACHED AND CONVICTED?

>> PRECISELY THE HYPOTHETICAL.

ISN'T IT TRUE THAT TRUMP COULD ORDER AN ASSASSINATION OF ONE OF HIS RIVALS, GO OUT AND KILL A POLITICAL RIVAL, IT COULD OCCUR AND THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION.

THEY PUT TRUMP'S LAW ENFORCEMENT INTRUMP'S LAWYER IN ACORNER AND SAID, YES, IF HE WASN'T CONVICTED, THEN, YES, HE WOULD BE IMMUNE FOR THE ASSASSINATION FROM A POLITICAL OPPONENT.

>> Ted: LET GO WILD THERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY THERE.

JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID TRUMP IS TOO MUCH OF A THREAT IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT AND TOO MUCH OF A THREAT AND I WANT HIM TAKEN OUT AND THEN I'M RESIGN THE NEXT DAY.

NO PROBLEM.

HE GOES TO THE BEACH THE NEBS DAYNEXTDAY AND EVERYTHING IS FINE IN.

>> UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S THEORY, ME WOULD BE HE WOULD BE IMMUNE AND NEVER BE PROSECUTED FOR THAT CRIME.

>> Ted: WHERE DUDS DOES IT COME FROM?

>> NIXON VERSUS FITZGERALD AND THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HELD THE CASE LATER AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE BUT THE ALLEGATION WAS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND ANY PRESIDENT, AND THE ARGUMENT WAS, OUGHT TO BE IMMUNE FROM CIVIL CASES AND OUGHT NOT TO BE SUBJECT TO SIFT LAWSUITS.

CIVIL LAWSUITS.

LIKE JUDGES DOING THEIR DUTY OUGHT NOT TO BE SUED FOR MAKING RULINGS AND A PRESIDENT SHOULD BE AFFORDED THAT SAME KIND OF CIVIL IMMUNITY.

SO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYERS HAVE TAKEN THAT CIVIL IMMUNITY CASE AND SAID IN A BROADER CONTEXT, IT APPLIES TO CRIMINAL ACTIONS, AS WELL, WITH THE ONLY ACCEPTSACTAN ACCEPTION OF IMPEACHMENT.

>> Ted: AND IT ALSO DEALS WITH CRIMINAL?

>> FOR MANY DECADES AND SINCE FORMER PRESIDENT NIXON WAS IN OFFICE, OTHERS HAVE CONSIDERED BRINGING CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST PRESIDENTS AND THAT ITSELF IS PROOF THAT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN IN THEIRERY OF IN IN IN THEIRERY.

THERE WAS A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROSECUTORS LOOKING AT THE WATERGATE CRIME MIGHT PROSECUTE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THE IRAN CONTRA-CASE WITH FORMER PRESIDENT REAGAN, ALL PROSECUTORS LOOKED AT ALL OF HEAD TO CASES AND ALL OF THEM HAD A PROSECUTION OF A FORMER PRESIDENT FOR A CRIMINAL WRONG.

SO THE PROSECUTORS IN FRONT OF THIS D.C. COURT OF APPEALS SAID THAT MEANS THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AS PART OF OUR HISTORY, AS PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION, AS PART OF THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NO MORE IMPORTANT AND NO GREATER THAN EVERY OTHER CITIZEN IN THE COUNTRY.

>> Ted: AND ONE THE JUDGES BASICALLY SAID THAT, SO YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT TO ENSURE THAT LAWS BE FAITHFULLY EXECUTED AND THAT CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY ALLOWS HIM TO VIOLATE CRIMINAL LAWS.

WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?

>> THAT WAS JUDGE HENDERSON THAT SAID IT WAS A PARADOX AND HOW IS IT THAT ON ONE HAND REQUIRE A PRESIDENT TO FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND ON THE OTHER HAND, SAY I CAN VIOLATE THE LAW AND IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION?

WE OFTEN ASK, WHAT IS THE LITTLE AFFILIATION OF A JUDGE WHO HEARING A CASE AND NOWADAYS THE ANSWER SEEMS TO BE MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.

THE JUDGE WHO POINTED OUT THE PARADOX AND INCONSISTENCY IS A REPUBLICAN HERSELF AND THAT'S INTERESTING PAW ALL THREE JUDGES SEEM TO BE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE ARGUMENT THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYERS WERE MAKING.

>> Ted: SO WHERE DO WE TO FROM HERE IN THERE'S?

THERE'S A LINE OF REASONING THAT SAYS TRUMP WINS AND HE'LL FIND BAYS TO STRETCH THIS THING OUT FARCE POSSIBLE, WHICH IS WHAT HIS PLAN IS IN THE FIRST CASE.

>> THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT AGAINSTS AREDEFENSES ARE DELAY, DELAY AND DELAY.

HIS HOPE IS LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T DELAY THIS TRIAL AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A RESULT THAT CAN HOW PROTECT HIMSELF.

BUT WHAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS BECAUSE THIS COURT OF APPEALS SEEM MOTE MOTIVATED TO HEAR THE CASE, THEY'LL BE MOTE RATED TO RATE MOTE RATED MOTIVATED TO HAVE A DECISION.

POOPSTHE U.S. SUPREME COURT OUGHTTO TAKE THIS RELATIVELY AND WHETHER THAT MEANS A TRIAL FROM THE ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER, WE CAN'T A.

SAY.

>> Ted: ARE YOU PRIZE SURPRISED THIS LINE OF REASONING HAS OCCURRED OCCURRED?

ALL OF THE >> IT'S HARD TO SAY I'M SUPPLIESED BY ANYTHING.

>> Ted: THANK YOU FOR THE SIGN THE INSIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, WHAT BLACK AND HISPANIC LEGISLATORS WANT TO SEE.

>> UNLIKELY ALLIANCES ARE FORMED.

>> IT'S PEOPLE WHO DID THE RIGHT THING FOR THE WRONG REASONS.

>> IS IT TOO LATE?

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>> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, THE HEAD OF A FEDERAL RESERVE BANK SAYS INFLATION IS COOLING BUT DOESN'T EXPECT IT TO RETURN TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

>> Ted: WE'VE HEARD FROM A VARIETY OF ADVOCATES FOR A VARIETY OF ISSUES ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM STATE LAWMAKERS AND TONIGHT, WE HEAR FROM THE BLACK AND HISPANIC BUSINESS COMMUNITIES.

WE WELCOME ROBIN REED, PRESIDENT AND CEO FROM THE BLACK CHAMBER OF CONFERENCE AND BOARD MEMBER OF THE ARIZONA CHAMBER.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE FROM LAWMAKERS THIS SESSION?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT WE AT THE ARIZONA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LEGISLATION THAT HELPS OUR COMMUNITY WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL MAKE ARIZONA ARIZONA A STRONGER PLAYER.

WE SERVE LATINO BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THOSE SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED.

WE'RE FOCUSED ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS THAT.

>> Ted: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIGGIE.

AND ALSO AS FAR AS THE BLACK CHAMBER, AS WELL.

>> WE CALL IT CAPITOL READINESS.

THIS IS A TWO-EDGED SWORD.

WEWE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE BUSINESSES WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO QUALIFY FOR THAT CAPITOL.

>> Ted: WHAT CAN STATE LAWMAKERRED DO TO HELPLAWMAKERS TO DO HELP THAT.

>> TOO MUCH DATA SUPPORTS THE FACT THAT MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES ARE OFFERED LOWER LOAN AMOUNTS AT HIGHER INTEREST RATES MAKING IT HARDER TO SUSTAIN THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

SO FINDING BETTER REGULATIONS.

>> Ted: SO SPECIFIC, IN AND OUTLINING THE THREE THINGS AND ANYTHING SPECIFIC HANDING TO A LAWMAKER SAYING THIS HELPS OUR BUSINESS LEADERS?

>> ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IDENTIFIED IS EDUCATION.

FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, WE'VE BEEN HOPING THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL HELP US WITH THE REPEAL OF PROPOSITION 203, WHICH IS THE ENGLISH-ONLY PROPOSITION IN ARIZONA AND WE AT THE ARIZONA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BELIEVE THAT BILIBERALLISMBILINGUALISM IS A STRENGTH.

WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THIS WILL HAPPEN.

IT HASN'T YET AND SO WE HOPE OUR STATE LEGISLATURES ARE LISTENING.

>> Ted: WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM MEMBERS?

WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST CONCERNS?

>> YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO CONTRACTS, ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND ANDING EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES.

TO LORENA'S POINT, ARIZONA IS THE ONLY STATE WITH AN ENGLISH-OWN STATUTE.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS GONE ON A DOZEN TRADE MISSIONS TO SPANISH-SPEAKING COUNTRIES, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE ALREADY A GLOBAL ECONOMY.

IF WE DO NOT REPEAL, WE RUN THE RISK OF FALLING BEHIND AS OTHER STATES AND COUNTRIES AS GLOBAL ECONOMIC FORCES.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE, IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN AS WELL OR LOWER ON THE LIST?

>> SOMETHING OUR MOMENTUMS ARE MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN.

IT'S NOT ONE OF THE THREE ISSUES WE IDENTIFIED, BUT OUR MEMBERS, IT'S A CONCERN FOR THEM.

>> Ted: IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ALL BUSINESS -- TALK ABOUT RIDING TIDE, ALL BUSINESSES WOULD BENEFIT IF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ARD ARIZONA WERE TOIVE AND TO IMPROVE.

>> I WAS GOING TO CHAIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WE SOUGHT TO GET THE $500 MILLION BOND APPROVED.

AND SO A LOT OF THAT FUNDING IS GOING SUPPORT BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX.

BUT YES, RISING TIDE IN THIS CASE, WE DO NEED THOSE VERY MUCH.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS YOUR MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST CONCERNS?

YOU TOUCH ON, I IMAGINE, EDUCATION AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

FROM THE BIDS BUSINESS OWNER DOWN THE STREET, WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU?

>> A LOT OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE SELF-FUNDED AND ALSO FIND CHALLENGES IN GETTING CAPITAL AND SO THE EDUCATION SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE THEM IS TO HELP THEM FIND HOW THEY CAN GO ABOUT SEEKING CAPITAL AND, YOU KNOW, HELPING THEM SO THAT BURDEN IS NOT ON THEM PERSONALLY.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION, ARE LAWMAKERS LISTENING TO HISPANIC BUSINESS OWNERS?

>> WE HOPE THEY ARE.

WE ARE A BY PART OF BIG PART OF THE STATE AND OPTIMISTIC HERE LISTENING AND THIS IS A YEAR, IF THEY WEREN'T LISTENING BEFORE, THEY WILL NOW.

>> Ted: IS THE WORD GETTING OUT?

>> THE WORD IS OUT AND IT'S BEEN OUT.

I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO LISTEN AS WE KNOW FROM THE EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, TO WORK THE WORKFORCE OF THE FUTURE, MORE THAN HALF OF K12 STUDENTS, MAJORITY ARE HISPANIC.

THE LAWMAKERS WILL HAVE TO LISTEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUTURE OF ARIZONA.

>> Ted: THEY'LL HAVE TO LISTEN.

ARE YOU CONFIDENT THEY ARE LISTENING?

>> I'M OPTIMISTIC.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: OK. WHAT ABOUT YOU?

>> I SHARE HIS OPTIMISM.

>> Ted: THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US AND BEST OF LUCK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: YOU BET.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> Ted: THE ARIZONA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IS OUT WITH A REPORT THAT ADDRESSES TEACHER VACANCIES IN THE STATE.

IT LOOKS TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO ARIZONA'S PERSISTENT TEACHER SHORTAGE.

THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND JOINS US NOW AND THIS IS ANNA MARIA CHAVEZ.

SUPPORTING AND STRENGTHENING TEACHING IN ARIZONA.

GIVE US A REPORT HERE.

>> THIS REPORT STATED THAT WE'LL NEED TO INVEST IN TEACHER WORKFORCE HERE IN ARIZONA.

WE KNOW THAT THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR OF STUDENT SUCCESS IS THE QUALITY OF THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM.

SO BACK IN 2018, WE FUNDED OUR FIRST RESEARCH STUDY ON TEACHERS IN ARIZONA AND IT WAS MORE AROUND COMPARING THEIR SALARIES TO THE OTHER TEACHERS IN OTHER STATES.

WHAT WE FOUND WAS CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH SALARY GIVEN TO OUR WONDERFUL TEACHERS IN ARIZONA.

CHANGES HATCHED AND HAPPENED AND WE NEEDED TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY AFTER COVID.

WHAT WE FOUND IN THIS REPORT LAST YEAR WAS THAT, AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE SEEING A VERY HIGH VACANCY RATE IN ARIZONA.

>> Ted: WHY ARE WE SEEING THIS?

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS MAN MANY YEARS AND SEEMS THIS IS CONSISTENT.

>> WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE TWICE AS MANY TEACHERS OUT OF SCHOOL CLASSROOMS MEANING, AGAIN, IF WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN OTHER STATES, TWICE AS MANY VACANCIES THAN OTHER STATES.

SO THAT'S ONE AND TWO, WHAT WE'RE FINDING COMING OUT OF COVID, CLASSROOM NUMBERS WENT UP AND MORE KIDS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS AND IN ADDITION, IT WAS THE TEACHERS THAT WERE STARTING THEIR CAREERS THAT WERE HAVING THE HARDEST TIME BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE CLASSROOM.

WE'RE SEEING THEM LEAVE EARLY IN THEIR CAREER.

>> Ted: ARE THERE BEST PRACTICES THE STATE CAN LOOK AT?

IS SOMEONE DOING THIS REALLY WELL?

>> WE'RE LUCKY THAT IN ARIZONA, THE POLICY CONTEXT FOR EDUCATION IS GOOD AND ACTUALLY, IT ALLOWS SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DO INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING TO HELP TEACHERS THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT CLASS PLANNING AND HOW TO SHARE CLASSROOMS WITH OTHER TEACHERS.

WHAT WE'RE HOPING, AGAIN, WITH THE RESEARCH REPORT, TO BRING THE ISSUES TO THE ATTENTION OF DECISION MAKERS ACROSS THE STATE.

>> Ted: THE REPORT, THE GOAL, I THINK, FROM WHAT I READ WAS TO REDESIGN THE TEACHING PROFESSION.

EXPLAIN, PLEASE.

>> AGAIN, IN THIS REPORT, WE FOUND THIS WERE BRIGHT SPOTS.

THERE ARE OTHER STATES DOING VERY INNOVATIVE THINGS.

WE GIVE THEM A TOOLKIT FOR CLASSROOMS AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE INDIVIDUALS TO IMPLEMENT THE INNOVATIVE DESIGNS.

>> Ted: THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLKIT, CAN THEY BE USED IN ARIZONA CONSIDERING THE POLITICAL CLIMATE AND THE POPULATION.

IS IT APPLES TO ORANGES OR LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT APPLES HERE?

>> THIS RESEARCH STUDY WAS ON ARIZONA SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, AT THE ARIZONA COMMITTEE, WE HOSTED A FORUM THAT BROUGHT TOGETHER INDIVIDUALS FROM STATE AGENCIES, FROM SCHOOL DISTRICTS, FROM TEACHERS AND WHAT WE HEARD WAS, YES, ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD LOVE TO IMPLEMENT THESE INFO INNOVATIVE GIANTS BUT WE NEED THE SPACE.

IT'S LISTENING TO THE TEACHERS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THOSE TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM TO DESIGN THE DAY THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM AND THE STUDENTS.

>> Ted: INNOVATIVE DESIGNS AND TALKING OF DOING THIS AND THAT, ARE THERE SPECIFIC THINGS TO POINT AT AND SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO NOW?

>> YES.

YOU KNOW, LET ME BRING THIS BACK AS A HUMAN POINT.

I GREW UP IN ARD AND ARIZONA AND A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN ARIZONA.

WHAT I KNOW IS THAT WHEN I WAS IN THE CLASSROOM AND I HAD A TEACHER, LET SAY, 20 KID TO FOCUSKIDS TOFOCUS ON, WE GO SO MUCH OUT OF THE DAY.

WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR RESEARCH REPORT AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS, WHEN YOU INCREASE CLASS SIZES AND YOU DON'T FOCUS ON THE INNOVATIVE WAYS, THEY WILL BURN OUT AND LEAVE THE PROFESSION.

BY WORKING IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE DOING THINGS AND WORKING AND BRINGING IDEAS TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THAT'S HOW WE SUCCEED FOR THE KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM.

>> Ted: FROM A DISTANCE, IF YOU HAD 30 KID, TOO MANY, TWO CLASSROOMS OF IS A 15 EACH, YOU NEED AN EXTRA CLASSROOM.

>> PERHAPS YOU HAVE TWO TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM AND WHILE ONE IS PREPARING THEIR LESSON PLAN, THE OTHER IS TEACHING A PARTICULAR COURSE.

TOGETHER, THEY CAN MANAGE THEIR CLASSROOM OF 29 INDIVIDUALS.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TEACHERS WITH THAT KIND OF COURSELOAD WITH NOT ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE FOR THE DAY.

>> Ted: IF YOU DO THAT AND GO THAT LEVEL, YOU'LL NEED TWO AND WE HAVE A TEACHER SHORTAGE AND HOW DO YOU WORK THAT NOW?

>> EXACTLY.

SO WHERE DO WE START?

WE START BY IDENTIFYING THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE DOING THIS WELL AND WE SHARE THAT SPOTLIGHT ON HOW DO IT EFFECTIVELY.

TWO, WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE TEACHERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THOSE CLASSROOMS, RIGHT.

WE SUPPORT NEW TEACHERS.

PERHAPS YOU GIVE THAT NEW TEACHER A LESS NUMBER OF KIDS IN THEIR CLASSROOM.

YOU LISTEN THE IMPACT OF THEIR DAY TO GIVE THEM THAT SPACE TO LEARN.

WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE NEW TEACHERS LEAVING THE PROFESSION IN A QUICK PACE, IT GOT TOO OVERWHELM.

AS WE SAW DURING COVID, FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAD TO TEACH KIDS, IT'S HARD BEING A TEACHER.

OUR EMPATHY GOES OUT BUT THIS REPORT PROVIDES THOSE SOLUTIONS.

>> Ted: ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC IN.

>> VERY OPTIMISTIC.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT GREAT.

WEE NEED TO FOCUS ON TEACHERS GIVING YOU SKILLS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST AND THAT TEACH KIDS AND THEIR PASSION.

>> Ted: ANNA MARIA CHAVEZ, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

ENCOURAGINGWORDS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!