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♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >>> IT'S TIME TO VOTE AGAIN.

THE PRIME IS JUST DAYS AWAY WITH BATTLES AND DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE MOSTLY ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND YET ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING IN THE NATION HAPPENED THIS WEEK.

WILL THAT FINALLY GET LAWMAKERS TO MOVE CONTROL BILLS IN NEW JERSEY?

HI, AND WELCOME TO "REPORTER'S ROUNDTABLE."

I'M COLLEEN O'DAY IN FOR DAVID CRUZ.

DANA DI FILIPPO WITH THE NEW JERSEY MONITOR.

GREG JOHNSON, POLITICS REPORTER AT NEW JERSEY ADVANCED MEDIA AND FRED SNOW I FLACK, COLUMNIST WITH INSIDER NEW JERSEY.

BEFORE WE GET TO THEM LET'S TALK POLITICS WITH DR. BEN DV ON, RKIN.

BEN, WELCOME TO REPORTER'S ROUNDTABLE.

GOOD MORNING.

>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

>> THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CANDIDATES, IT SEEM, BUT IS THERE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT OUT THERE OVER THE RACES?

>> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IN NEW JERSEY A STATEWIDE PRIMARY ELECTION FOR A STATEWIDE OFFICE AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF EXCITEMENT THAT, SAY, WE SAW IN PENNSYLVANIA IN RECENT WEEKS AND STILL CONTINUING AS THEY HAVE A NAILBITER OF A RACE OVER THERE.

NOTHING IS REALLY GALVANIZED EVERYBODY FROM CAPE MAY TO MAWAK.

WE DO HAVE THESE PRIMARIES AND THEY'RE ALL IN LOCALIZED DISTRICTS AND THE EXCITEMENT LEVEL IS A BIT DIFFERENT THAN, SAY IN OTHER STATES.

IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE CONTESTS ARE ON THE REPUBLICAN SATURDAY AND MOST OF THE CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO OUTCONSERVATIVE THE OTHER GUY.

ARE YOU SEEING ANY COMMON THEMES AMONG THE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGNS?

>> WELL, I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE PERSONALITIES.

PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES AND DIFFERENT TEMPERAMENTS AND SO THAT PROVIDES A CONTRAST WHEN YOU HAVE THESE PRIMARIES AND MORE FUNDAMENTALLY, I THINK, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IS GRADATIONS OF TRUST.

THAT IS WHAT IS DIVIDING THESE KANDZ ATS.

HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST GOVERNMENT?

HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST DONALD TRUMP?

HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST BIG BUSINESS, BIG MEDIA, ANY OF THIS?

HOW MUCH DO YOU TRUST THE SYSTEM?

AND THOSE WHO ARE MORE TRUSTING ARE ON ONE SIDE AND TEND TO BE MORE ESTABLISHMENT TYPE OF REPUBLICANS AND THOSE WHO ARE LESS TRUSTING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NETS AND THAT'S WHERE A DISTINCTION IS LINKED UNIVERSALLY IS COMING ACROSS HERE WITH ALL THESE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES.

>> YOU MENTIONED THE NAME TRUMP, AND HE WAS A BIG FACTOR IN 2018 IN THE GENERAL ELECTION WHEN DEMOCRATS TOOK FIVE SEATS.

OF COURSE, ONE OF THEM SWIFRPED BACK TO REPUBLICAN.

WHAT ROLE IS TRUMP PLAYING THIS YEAR, IF ANY, IN THE PRIMARIES?

>> HERE IN NEW JERSEY -- HERE IN NEW JERSEY HE'S NOT PLAYING MUCH OF A ROLE AT ALL.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD EXPECT HIM TO.

DONALD TRUMP IS NOT PARTICULARLY POPULAR IN NEW JERSEY, AND SO HE CAN HAVE A BIG INFLUENCE IN A NUMBER OF OTHER STATES WHERE HIS POPULARITY IS DIFFERENT, BUT HERE IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE.

HE'S MADE SOME NOISE ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN DISTRICT 4, BUT HASN'T GOTTEN INVOLVED IN ANY REAL WAY.

>> BEN, IS THERE ANY REASON FOR DEMOCRATS TO GO OUT AND VOTE IN THE CONGRESSIONAL PRIMARIES THIS YEAR?

WELL, SURE.

THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON TO VOTE ASIDE FROM IT JUST BEING YOUR CIVIC DUTY, BUT IF YOU'RE A PARTISAN DEMOCRAT, IT MATTERS WHO YOUR NOMINEE IS IN ANY OF THESE RACES BECAUSE THE NOMINEES FOR THESE PARTIES REFLECT THE PARTY.

THEY ARE PART OF THE PARTY'S BRAND, AND WHAT BOTH SIDES ARE GOING TO DO AS THEY HEAD TOWARD THE FALL IS TRY TO PAINT THE OTHER SIDE AS BEING EXTREMIST.

THIS IS YET ISSUES YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR OPENING, GUN, WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF ABORTION AND THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY TOPICAL ISSUES IN THESE PRIMARIES RIGHT NOW, BUT AS WE HEAD TOWARDS THE FALL TO THE DEGREE ONE SIDE IS ABLE TO PAINT THE OTHER AS BEING EXTREMIST ON GUNS ON YOUR VIEW OF JANUARY 6th, ON ABORTION, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR ALL CANDIDATES, AND SO DEMOCRATS ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GO OUT TO GET THE BEST CANDIDATE THEY HAVE OUT THERE REPRESENTING THE PARTY BECAUSE THE PARTY BRAND IS WHAT IS AT STAKE.

>> AND YOU TALK ABOUT NOVEMBER WHICH IS COMING, OF COURSE.

WHAT ROLE DO YOU THINK THE NEW CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO PLAY?

WE HAD REDISTRICTING LAST YEAR, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT COMPOSITIONS OF VOTERS.

HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WILL PLAY OUT?

>> IT'S REALLY VERY INTERESTING, COLLEEN, BECAUSE WE HAVE 12 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN NEW JERSEY AND THE RACES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IN NOVEMBER ARE VERY DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW THAN THEY WERE A YEAR AGO BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT OR AT LEAST MANY OF THEM ARE VERY DIFFERENT.

>> THE CURRENT DELEGATIONS TENDED TO IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOCRATS AND THERE ARE TEN DEMOCRATS AND ONLY TWO REPUBLICANS.

BASICALLY, NINE OF THOSE TEN DEMOCRATS HAVE NEW DISTRICTS THAT EITHER SIGNIFICANTLY HELPED THEM, THAT IS FOUND MORE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND THEY SHED REPUBLICAN VOTERS OR BASICALLY STAYED THE SAME.

THE TWO REPUBLICANS -- THEY GOT MORE DISTRICT SEVENTH DISTRICT CURRENTLY KELLED BY TOM MALINOWSSKI, IT GOT A LITTLE MORE REPUBLICAN.

THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RACE IN NOVEMBER.

WE'LL SEE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT THERE AND THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS BECAUSE NATIONALLY, THE DEMOCRATS ONLY HAVE A FIVE-SEAT MARGIN TO CONTROL THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND EVERY FLIP, POTENTIALLY JUST ONE SEAT IN NEW JERSEY CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

>> BEN, YOU'RE DOWN IN SOUTH JERSEY.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE THIRD DISTRICT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE BOB HEALY IS ALREADY RUNNING AGAINST ANDY KIM.

THERE IS A PRIMARY.

HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT DOWN THERE.

ARE YOU SEEING IT AGAIN AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT WHICH BASICALLY HAD BURLINGTON COUNTY AND OCEAN COUNTY TOGETHER, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT RACE IF WE WERE STILL IN THE MIDST OF COVID RESTRICTIONS THE WAY WE WERE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, AND EVEN JUST A YEAR AGO.

THE FACT IS THAT BOB HEALY, IAN SMITH WHO IS CHALLENGING HIM, MR. SMITH REALLY MADE A NAME FOR HIMSELF HIMSELF AND BECAUSE OF HIS OPPOSITION RELET'SED TO THE OPINION DEMMIC.

THE PANDEMIC IS NOT FRONT AND CENTER REIT NOW.

REPUBLICANS IN HAD THIS DISTRICT MIGHT WANT BE AS IN TUNE TUNE AS MR. SMITH, WITH THE WAY IT WAS COMPOSED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

I THINK IT WILL BE A COMPETITIVE RACE, BUT MOST INDICATORS WOULD TELL US THAT MR. HEALY IS HEADED TOWARD A VICTORY.

THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING.

>> GOTCHA.

BEN, I'M GOING TO THROW IT TO BRENT JOHNSON.

HE'S GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BRENT?

>> HI, BEN.

GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING.

SO -- >> WE KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT NEW GUN RESTRICTIONS, BILLS AND THE NEW LEGISLATURE THAT THE GOVERNMENTS LEGISLATION TO PASS.

DO YOU SEE ANY OF THOSE PASSING IN THE COMING WEEKS OR MONTHS?

>> I'M NOT SURE THE GOVERNOR WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE MOMENTUM.

WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE GUN ISSUE IS THE WAY IT IS PLAYED OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE LAST FEW DECADES.

THERE ARE THESE TERRIBLE TRAGEDIES LIKE WE SAW IN BUFFALO AND TEXAS AND PEOPLE ARE AGITATED AND CONCERNED AND THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN IT DISSIPATES AND THEN THE ENERGY IS NOT THERE IN THE SAME WAY, AND SO THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING TO AVOID ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS AND BASICALLY TRY AND WAIT IT OUT AND THEN THE ISSUE IS NO LONGER ON THE FRONT PAGE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS TRYING TO DO THAT HE IS SHOWING THAT THEY DO WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING AND NEW JERSEY HAS STRICT GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION AND RULES AND LAWS IN THE BOOKS INCLUDE AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THERE WILL BE DRIVES TO DO NEW THINGS AND THERE CAN BE WAYS AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE NECESSARILY GOING TO GET IT DONE REALLY NOW.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHETHER THIS ISSUE REMAINS FRONT AND CENTER IN THE FALL.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE HAVE FOR YOU, BEN.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTS.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS, DANA DIFILIPPO, AND FRED SNOWFLACK.

WE'LL GET BACK TO THE GUN DISCUSSION IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT I WANT TO TALK POLITICS FIRST.

FRED, LET ME START WITH YOU.

THE 11th DISTRICT WHICH IS MIKEY CHERREL'S UP IN NORTH JERSEY, HAS GOT A PRETTY HOT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING THERE AND WHO DO YOU THINK WILL, AND A AMONG THE AND THE THE CANDIDATE, AND THE DISTRICT, BY THE WAY COVERS PASSIC COUNTY.

HE HAS TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING HARD AGAINST HIM AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT HE'S NOT CONSIDERATE ENOUGH.

HE'S A NEVER TRUMPER AND OF COURSE, THE DREADED TONE, AND I TP IT AND HOW MUCH IS THE TRUMP VET GOING TO BE?

>> I THINKY NAOMI, AND I CAN SEE THIS BY NOW AND SEVEN WHERE TOM JUNIOR IS THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE REPUBLICANS ALL WHO ARE SEEKING THAT VERY TRUMP VOTE.

WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

>> YEAH.

I WANTED TO ASK BRENT ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THIS FACTOR IN CD-7.

YOU HAVE TOM KAINE WHO WOULD SEEM TO BE RIGHT ON TRACK TO WIN THE PRIMARY, BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT ERIC PETERSON, PHIL RIZZO.

ARE WE STILL SEEING THE SAME DYNAMIC THAT FRED'S TALKING ABOUT IN THE 7th DISTRICT RACE AND WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE OUTCOME THERE?

>> YOU ARE DEFINITELY SEEING THE OTHER CANDIDATES BEING CONSERVATIVE AND PUSHING FOR THAT CONSERVATIVE LINE, BUT KAINE IS MORE MODERATE AND HE STRADDLES BOTH SIDES OF THE BODY AND HE'LL SEE KAINE AND MOL YOU IN SKI HAVE ONE OF THE MOST RACES IN NOVEMBER.

>> THE ONE TO WATCH, DANA, YOU PROELT BROET THE BIG DESHS AND HOW TOUGH A TIME MIGHT THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER WITH THE VOTING MACHINE.

>> THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES AND IT'S NICK DI GREGORIO.

HE RIGHT NOW IS A FRONT-RUNNER IN THE RACE.

HE'S A MARINE, SO HE HAS A LOT OF APPEAL TO PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE MILITARY.

HE'S THE YOUNGEST CANDIDATE IN THE RACE.

YOU HAVE HIM GOING UP AGAINST FRANK PALOTTA.

HE'S A BUSINESSMAN AND HE HELPS STRUGGLING HOMEOWNERS AND AND THE FIRST CANDIDATE AND HE'S A LONG-SHOT CANDIDATE AND HE'S COMPETING AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND VACCINE CAN DATES, AND NICK DI FWEGORIO THOSE GOT THE MOST CASH AND COUP THE REPUBLICAN PARENT AND FRANK DID PULL OUT A WIN IN 2020 AND HE DID LOSE TO SCOTT HEIMER, BUT HE WASN'T THAT FAR BEHIND AND LOST BY SEVEN PERCENTAGE RACE AND ED CERTAINLY SHOWED THE STATE THAT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.

SO, YOU KNOW,BY SEVEN PERCENTAGE RACE AND ED CERTAINLY SHOWED THE STATE THAT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE REPUBLICANS WHOEVER WINS WILL HAVE A HARD TIME IN THE FALL MORE DEMOCRATIC OVER THE YEARS ESPECIALLY LATELY WITH REDISTRICTING, BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.

>> YEAH.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTING RACES IN THE FALL.

FIRST, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GET THROUGH THE PRIMARIES.

BRENT, LET'S MOVE TO THE FOURTH DISTRICT.

COULD THE LONGEST SERVING HOUSE MEMBER IN THE NATION REALLY BE IN TROUBLE IN HIS PRIMARY?

>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE'S SPOKEN ABOUT AND HE'S A CONGRESSMAN IN THE 1980s AND SO THIS IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT FOR HIM AND I STILL DON'T SEE HIM LOSING THE PRIMARY AND I STILL SEE HIM KEEPING HIS SEAT IN NOVEMBER AND I DON'T KNOW IF NEW JERSEY WOULD DO IF HE'S NOT IN CONGRESS.

IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S ALWAYS THERE.

>> I DO THINK THIS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT RACE FOR HIM.

>> AND FRED, HUDSON KNOWS THE TOWN VERY WELL AND I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IN THE 8th DISTRICT.

IS THIS ANYTHING MORE THAN THE CORONATION FOR THE SON OF A SENATOR?

>> I GUESS IT WOULD BE A CORONATION, AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF PUTTING IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A MONARCHY WHERE HE WOULD FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HIS FATHER.

THE INTERESTING THING IS THE DEMOCRATS HAVE AND HOW MANY OF THEM WILL GO TO THE POLLS AND THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF NEPOTISM.

IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE A LOT BECAUSE HE LIKES THE MACHINE AND ANY DEGREE OF OBJECTIVITY, IT SORT OF LOOKS BACK.

I SAID I THINK THEY DO THE SAME THICK, AND YOU HAVE MANY OTHER XAFRMELS, BUT THAT'S A KEY THING.

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WILL I, WALKING IN WITH BOB MENENDEZ.

WE WANT SEE HOW MANY VOTE WE'LL GET.

PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT ARE THE BALLOT LINE AND THE POSITION.

THERE WAS THIS WEEK.

BRIAN, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LINE IS AND WHAT HAPPENED IN COURT THIS WEEK THAT COULD AFFECT THE LOOK OF FUTURE BALLOTS?

>> THE LINE IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT AND INTERESTING THINGS TO EXPLAIN WITH NEW JERSEY POLITICS.

IN OTHER STATES WHEN YOU RUN FOR YOUR PARTY'S NOMINATION, YOU SIMPLY RUN AND HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT AND YOU FIND THE PROCESS.

>> IT MEANS THAT THOSE WHO GET THE BACKING OF THE LOCAL PARTY RUN IN A BRACKET WITH OTHER ENDORSED CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY.

SO YOU KNOW BASICALLY WHO THE PARTY IS ENDORSING WITH THE PARTY BUSSES AND IT'S NOT FAIR WITH THE CANDIDATES AND SO THERIA A LAWSUIT GOING ON, AND THE COUNTY CLERKS WHO WOULD PUSH TO HAVE IT DISMISSED, THE IF THEED IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LAWSUIT, BUT IT SHOWS THAT THIS WAS OF THIS IS GOES.

THIS COULD END ONE OF NEW JERSEY'S UNIQUE AND LONGSTANDING TRADITION AND IT COULD BE SEISMIC AND SOMETHING DEFINITELY TO LOOK OUT FOR.

>> YEAH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE BY THE TIME IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURT, BUT LET'S MOVE ON TO THAT OTHER TOPIC THAT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS GUNS.

YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY MASS SHOOTINGS IN RECENT WEEKS.

THIS WEEK WE HAD A GUNMAN KILL FOUR BEFORE SHOOTING HIMSELF IN A HOSPITAL IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA AND THAT'S ON TOP OF THE 21 KILLED AND 19 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLCHILDREN LAST WEEK IN TEXAS.

TEN IN BUFFALO THE WEEK BEFORE.

ACCORDING TO THE GUN VIOLENCE ARCHIVE THERE HAVE BEEN 231 MASS SHOOTINGS SO FAR THIS YEAR.

THAT'S MORE THAN ONE PER DAY.

NEW JERSEY DOES HAVE AMONG THE TOUGHEST GUN LAWS IN THE NATION AS BEN POINTED OUT, GOVERNOR PHIL MURPHY HAS BEEN CALLING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR TO GET THE LEGISLATURE PASS ADDITIONAL MEASURES AND DANA, CAN YOU TELL WHAT MURPHY IS LOOKING FOR AND WHAT'S HOLDING UP THE PACKAGE.

THERE ARE A WHOLE RANGE OF BILLS AND THEY ADVANCED THE ASSEMBLY AND THEY DID NOT LOSE IN THE SENATE.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF MEASURES THAT TAP INTO THE RECENT SHOOTINGS THAT JUST HAPPENED AND ONE OF THEM IS -- HE WANTS TO RAISE THE AGE FROM 18 TO 21 OF WHEN YOU CAN GET AN FID CARD, A FIREARM PURCHASER CARD AND THE SHOOTERS IN THE TWO MOST RECENT CASES IN THE SUPERMARKET AND UP IN BUFFALO WERE BOTH 18 AND THEY'RE GETTING GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF YOUNGER ADULTS AND ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE A SAFE STORAGE LAW THAT IS LONG BEFORE FEDERALLY AND IT WOULD REQUIRE GUN OWNERS TO STORE THEIR GUNS UNLOADED AND LOCK SAFE AND GUN SAVES SEPARATELY FROM THEIR AMMO AND CRITICS DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IN DEFENSE, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE GUN QUICKLY.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ABOUT AMMUNITION AND TRACKING AMMUNITION AND SALES WOULD REQUIRE THE STATE OR GUN SHOPS, REALLY, TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL AMMUNITION SALES SO THAT IF THEY ARE USED IN CRIMES POLICE WOULD BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE EASIER.

THE STATE GUNS THEY'RE TRYING TO CLAMP DOWN.

STATE GUNS WHICH ARE THE PRIMARY GUNS USED IN GUN CRIMES IN NEW JERSEY, THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF MEASURES AND HE'S HAD TROUBLE PASSING THEM IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF OPPOSITION FROM THE NRA, RESISTANCE FROM THE LEGISLATURE'S REPUBLICAN MEMBERS AND I THINK HE'S HOPING THAT THIS KIND OF INCREASED STATE OF MASS SHOOTINGS WILL HELP SWAY THE PEOPLE -- THE HOLDOUTS ON THIS, AND REALLY SEE SOME ACTION ON THAT THIS SESSION.

>> YOU KNOW, BUT FRED, WE'VE GOT DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, THE ASSEMBLY AND THE SENATE AND THE GOVERNOR, OBVIOUSLY.

WHY ISN'T THIS PASSING?

I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROSPECTS ARE FOR PASSAGE OF ANY OR ALL OF THE BILLS?

>> I GUESS WHAT YOU SAID, OBVIOUSLY IS TRUE AND ANYONE, THE DEMOCRAT AND POLITICALS AND LIBERAL DEMOCRATS AND THAT'S PART OF RECOVERY.

WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT WHATEVER NEW JERSEY DOES REALLY DOESN'T MEAN THAT MUCH AND YOU REALLY NEED AND EVERYBODY KNOWS AND THEY HAVE GUNS THAT ARE USED IN CRIMES HERE AND IN NEW YORK THEY COME FROM OTHER STATES AND THAT'S WHY LEGISLATION IS NEEDED.

THERE WAS A GUN CONTROL RALLY YESTERDAY THAT I WENT TO IN WEST NEW YORK SPEAKING OF HUDSON COUNTY AND BASICALLY MADE THAT POINT AND HE'S HOPEFUL.

NOW WE KNOW THAT JOEY IS AN UPBEAT AND OPTIMISTIC TYPE OF GUY AND HOPEFUL THAT SOMETHING WILL BE DONE IN WASHINGTON, BUT I THINK AFTER ALL THE PEOPLE FOLLOWED IT FOR THE LAST TEN, 15 YEARS AND A LOT OF HAPPENING AND HAPPENING HAPPENS.

I WOULDN'T BLAME ANYONE IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EITHER.

WE'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE.

>> I HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

I DO WANT TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO A FREQUENT PANELIST, KATHERINE LANEGAN WHO IS MOVING ON AS POLITICO'S BUREAU CHIEF.

KATHY IS MOVING TO GEORGIA WHERE WE KNOW ELECTIONS ARE NEVER CONTROVERSIAL.

ALL THE BEST, KATHERINE.

WE WILL MISS YOU.

THIS WEEK I WANT TO THANK ALL OUR GUESTS, DANA, BRENT, FRED, THANK YOU.

IT WAS GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL AND THANKS ALSO TO BEN D,VORKIN.

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>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR DAVID CRUZ IS PROVIDED BY NEW JERSEY REALTORS, THE VOICE FOR REAL ESTATE IN NEW JERSEY.

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