>> Ted: CHIEF JUSTICE RUTH MCGREGOR TO DISCUSS THE MARICOPA COUNTY'S PRINTER ISSUES.

A REPUBLICAN STATE LAWMAKER IS EXPELLED FROM THE LEGISLATURE AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND HOW SOCIAL SECURITY ACTUALLY WORKS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THE STATE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TODAY EXPELLED CHANDLER REPUBLICAN LIZ HARRIS.

IT WAS 46-13, MORE THAN THE TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY AND TODAY'S MOVE IN RESPONSE TO HARRIS INVITING A SPEAKER BEFORE A JOINT HEARING ON ELECTION INTEGRITY AND ACCUSED PUBLIC OFFICIALS OF BEING INVOLVED IN A MONEY LAUNDERING AND DRUG TRAFFICKING OPERATION OVERSEEN BY THE LDS CHURCH.

THEY FOUND HARRIS KNEW WHAT THE SPEAKER WOULD SAY AND DID NOTHING TO KEEP THE CLAIMS FROM BEING PRESENTED.

INDEED, TRYING TO HIDE THE DETAILS FROM THE LEGISLATURE.

THE HOUSE FOUND THAT HARRIS ENGAGED IN DISORDERLY BEHAVIOR AND BROUGHT DISREPUTE AND EMBARRASSMENT TO THE CHAMBER.

HARRIS BECOMES THE FIFTH STATE LAWMAKER TO BE EXPELLED IN ARIZONA.

HER DISTRICT 13th SEAT IS VACANT AND REPUBLICANS WILL NOMINATE THREE REPLACEMENTS WITH THE SUPERVISORS WHO TAKES OVER THE SEAT.

WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE ON THE EXPULSION OF A STATE LAWMAKER LATER IN THE SHOW.

>>> FORMER ARIZONA SUPREME JUSTICE RUTH MCGREGOR RELEASING HER INVESTIGATION OF BALLOT PRINTER ISSUES DURING THE 2022 GENERAL ELECTION.

NEARLY 30% OF CENTERS HAD PROBLEMS PRINTING ON ELECTION DAY AND JOINING US TO DISCUSS THIS AND WHAT NEED TO CHANGE, WE WELCOME JUSTICE RUTH MCGREGOR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WHAT EXACTLY DID YOUR INVESTIGATION LOOK AT?

>> WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WHY THERE WERE PRINTER PROBLEMS ON THE GENERAL ELECTION DAY IN MARICOPA COUNTY, WHAT WERE THE POTENTIAL CAUSES, WHY THEY HAPPENED ON GENERAL ELECTION DAY AND DID NOT HAPPEN DURING THE PRIMARY AND WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

>> Ted: HOW DID YOU CONDUCT THE REVIEW?

>> WE WORKED WITH THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT AND THEY PROVIDED MACHINES AND WE TOOK 12 OF THE PRINTERS THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN BOTH THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTION AND TEN OF THEM WERE THE OKEE PRINTERS AND FIVE CAME FROM VOTE CENTERS THAT DID NOT HAVE BALLOT ISSUES ON ELECTION DAY.

FIVE CAME FROM VOTE CENTERS THAT DID HAVE PROBLEMS.

WE MOVED THEM ALL UNDER SECURITY INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM AND HIRED AN EXPERT IN PRINTERS TO HELP OVERSEE THEM AND RAN THROUGH 9,100 BALLOTS WHICH WE TABULA TUSHTEDWHERE AND WHY THEY OCCURRED?

>> Ted: WAS IT THE WEIGHT AND LENGTH OF THE PAPER?

>> THERE WERE TWO FACTORS.

WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED THE PROBLEMS.

THERE WERE TWO AND ONE WAS THE WEIGHT OF THE PAPER.

IN THE 2020 ELECTION, THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, MARICOPA COUNTY USE USED 80-POUND PAPER, AND THAT WAS WHEN SHARPIE GATE OCCURRED.

THE BALLOT CIRCLES ARE OFFSET AND IT DIDN'T AFFECT IT AND CAUSED CONSTERNATION AMONG THE VOTERS AND THE COUNTY DECIDED TO GO TO A 100-POUND PAPER.

THAT WAS ONE MAJOR CHANGE.

THE OTHER CHANGE BETWEEN THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTION WAS THAT THE COUNTY HAD TO GO FROM A 19-INCH BALLOT TO A 20-INCH BALLOT BECAUSE OF THE CONTESTS AND PROPOSITIONS AND THE NEED FOR SPANISH TRANSITIONS AND IT COULDN'T FIT AND COMPLY WITH STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AS TO SIZE AND FONT AND SO FORTH BY USING A 19-INCH PLOT AND THEY HAD TO GO TO 20-INCH.

>> Ted: BECAUSE OF THAT IN YOUR REPORT, THE PRINTER, THE OKEE PRINTERS AND PERFORMED PAST CAPACITY.

>> IT PUSHED THEM TO THE EDGE OF THEIR CAPACITY.

THERE WERE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE LEXMARK EITHER DURING THE ELECTION OR DURING OUR TESTING.

THEY'RE MORE POWERFUL PRINTERS.

I POINT OUT THERE AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IT WASN'T ALL OF THE OKEE PRINTERS OR MOST THAT HAD PROBLEMS AND OF THE BALLOTS PRINTED, ONLY 6% WERE MISPRINTED.

SO THE PROBLEM WAS WIDESPREAD, BUT NOT PERVASIVE.

>> Ted: AN INCH DEEP AND A MILE WIDE.

>> IT OCCURRED BROADLY, OVER ABOUT A THIRD OF THE VOTE CENTERS HAD PROBLEMS.

>> Ted: DID IT OCCUR INFREQUENTLY ENOUGH IN YOUR INVESTIGATION TO MAKE SENSE THAT PREVIOUS TESTING DIDN'T SEEM TO SHOW THIS PROBLEM?

>> WHAT WE FIND, AND I THOUGHT ONE OF THE STRIKING FINDINGS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM ONE PRINTER TO ANOTHER.

NOW ALL OF THE SAME KIND AND BASICALLY PURCHASED AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PRINTING AND ONE OF THE PRINTERS PRINTED THE 850 BALLOTS THROUGH THE PRINTERS WITH ONLY ONE MISPRINTED AND THE SAME HAD 97 OR 92 MISPRINTED PLOTS.

THE PROBLEM WITH PRETESTING IS, YOU KNOW, RANDOM TESTING ASSUMES YOU'RE TAKING FROM WITHIN A PRETTY CONSISTENT GROUP.

>> Ted: RIGHT.

>> INSTEAD WE FOUND THE PRINTERS HAD BIG DIFFERENCES, ONE FROM ANOTHER AND THE FUSER WHICH HEATS AND FUSES ONTO THE PAPER.

>> Ted: YOUR INVESTIGATION SUGGESTED THE TESTING WASN'T ROBUST ENOUGH, I THINK WAS THE WORD.

>> WE SUGGEST IT IN TWO WAYS, THAT THE TESTING TRADITIONALLY IN MARICOPA COUNTY AND ELSEWHERE HAS BEEN DONE WITH SEQUENTIAL PRINTING WHERE YOU RUN THROUGH 50 OR 100 OR 300 BALLOTS ONE AFTER ANOTHER.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE VOTE CENTERS.

AT THE VOTE CENTERS, THEY GO TO THE SITES AND PUT IN THEIR INFORMATION AND SHOW THEIR IDENTIFICATION AND THE BALLOTS FOR THEIR PRECINCT GOES INTO A PRINTER CUBE.

SO ONE OF THE PRINTERS PRINTS OUT AND THERE MIGHT BE 10 OR 30 SECOND DELAYS AND WE CALL THAT INTERVAL TESTING AND THERE WERE MANY MORE ERRORS.

>> Ted: THERE WERE MORE ERRORS AS OPPOSED TO PRETESTING.

>> CORRECT.

>> Ted: YOUR SUGGESTING ARE THAT THE COUNTY DOES A MORE ROBUST JOB AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

GET RID OF THE OKEE PRINTERS, HUH?

>> WE SUGGESTED THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.

IF YOU TESTED A GREATER NUMBER, YOU COULD UNCOVER WITH PROBLEMS AND THE DIFFERENCES FROM ONE PRINTER TO ANOTHER WOULD REQUIRE THAT A VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER BE TESTED, I THINK.

AND MOST OF THE PRINTERS PERFORMED OK. >> Ted: AND THERE WERE 17,000 BALLOTS AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CRITICS AND YOU'RE SEEING EQUIPMENT FAILURE AND NOT SEEING SOME SORT OF FUNNY BUSINESS GOING ON HERE, TRUE?

>> TRUE.

WE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT SUGGESTED -- IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO SOMEHOW -- I ACTUALLY CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW THEY COULD HAVE CHANGED THE PRINTERS TO FORCE THEM TO MISPRINT EVERY FIFTH OR EVERY 20th OR 25th BALLOT.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO IMAGINE.

>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, DID ANYONE HAVE A BALLOT THAT WAS NOT TABULATED ON ELECTION DAY BECAUSE OF ISSUE PRINTERS?

>> NOT AS I UNDERSTAND.

THE PRINTER ISSUES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, THE ONES WHERE THE PRINTERS DIDN'T COMPLETELY FUSE THE TONER TO THE PAPER SO THERE WAS FLAKING AND SPECKLING AND THEY COULDN'T BE READ BY THE ONSET TABULATERS, THOSE COULD BE READ AND THEY COULD SHRINK TO FIT DOWN AND THOSE HAD TO BE TAKEN BY BIPARTISAN TEAMS AND THE RESULTS TRANSFERRED, DUPLICATED ON ANOTHER BALLOT WHICH WAS THEN TABULATED.

>> Ted: EQUIPMENT FAILURES TO BLAME AND NO SENSE OF ANY KIND OF FRAUD OF ANY KIND AND YET CRITICS ARE OUT THERE AND THEY SAY, I THINK, THE KARI LAKE ERA SAYING 17,000 BALLOTS, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

IT WAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION BALLOTS THAT WERE SOMEHOW NOT TABULATED AND IS THAT FALSE?

>> OF THE BALLOTS MISPRINTED, THERE WERE ABOUT 16,000 BALLOTS AND THAT'S WHAT OUR INVESTIGATION LOOKED AT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CAUSE OF THE MISPRINTED BALLOTS BY THE BALLOT ON-DEMAND PRINTERS AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY NARROW FAX-SPECIFIC INVESTIGATION.

WE WEREN'T LOOKING INTO OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD.

>> Ted: ANY LIMITS FROM THE COUNTY?

BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND DID THE COUNTY PUT LIMITS ON YOUR INVESTIGATION?

>> NONE, NONE.

THEY TOLD ME TO DESIGN THE INVESTIGATION, TO HIRE ANY EXPERTS WE NEEDED, TO TAKE THE TIME THAT WE NEEDED AND WE WERE GIVEN COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE AS TO THE INVESTIGATION WE CONDUCTED.

NO ONE MADE ANY ATTEMPT.

>> Ted: I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHY DID YOU AGREE TO DO THIS?

YOU KNOW, FOR 20 YEARS, I WAS A JUDGE AND THAT'S A PUBLIC SERVICE POSITION.

SINCE I RETIRED 13 YEARS AGO, I HAVE TAKEN ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ELECTION AND HOW TO PREVENT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE IS IMPORTANT TO OUR DEMOCRACY AND SO, IT WAS A PROJECT THAT I THOUGHT WAS NUMBER ONE, WOULD BE INTERESTING.

SECONDLY, I KNEW I WOULD LEARN A LOT, AND I DID.

AND IT WAS IMPORTANT, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION HERE, YOU'RE A MARICOPA COUNTY RESIDENT, ARE YOU CONFIDENT YOUR VOTE, IS, WAS AND WILL BE COUNTED?

I AM, YES.

>> Ted: THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> NICE TO BE HERE.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, AN ARIZONA LAWMAKER IS EXPELLED FROM THE LEGISLATURE.

REPUBLICAN STATE LIZ HARRIS WAS EXPELLED FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR HER PART IN ALLOWING A SPEAKER TO MAKE BASE BASELESS CLAIMS OF PUBLIC COMMISSIONERS AND AN LDS CHURCH.

FOR MORE ON WHAT HAPPENED WE'RE JOINED BY JOHN CAVANAGH KAVANAUGH AND WHY WAS SHE EXPELLED?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOME OF THE DEMOCRATS TRY TO CENTER HER.

I OVERRODE THAT MOTION AND THIS IS WHY WE SAID, LOOK, IF THERE'S A VENTURE, EVERYBODY DESERVES TO EXPLAIN THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY AND WE HAD THE ETHIC'S COMPLAINTS AND THE ETHIC'S COMMITTEE INTERVIEWED HER.

THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, NOT ME PERSONALLY, BUT THE ETHIC'S ECONOMY KNEW WHAT WAS COORDINATED AND WE HAVE AN INSTITUTION AND IT'S A SACRED CASE.

THE HOUSE AND SENATE, YOU CONDUCT BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT A PLACE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND JUST SAY THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT DAY.

SO, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

PUT >> Ted: COULD HAVE CENSURED AND DIDN'T, WHY NOT?

>> A MEDICATION THAT WAS DECIDED.

THE CENSURE IS ONE THING AND EXPULSION IS ANOTHER.

THE BODY FELT IT WAS SERIOUS ENOUGH TO WARRANT AN EXSULLION.

EXPULSION.

>> Ted: SHE ARGUES NO DIRECT CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS AND ALLOWS CONSTITUENTS TO MAKE STATEMENTS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMITTEE THOUGHT, WHAT, YEAH, YOU DO AND NO, YOU DON'T.

>> YOU COME TO THE SENATE CHAMBERS OR THE HOUSE AND YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND IN MY OPINION, IF THERE'S ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BECAUSE THESE ARE PRETTY SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS.

YOU'RE ACCUSING THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND OTHER MEMBERS, EVEN THE GOVERNOR OF BEING A PART OF A CARTEL OR CRIMINAL ACCUSATION AND GO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT?

IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY, YOU DON'T COME TO THE CHAMBER AND PRESENT THAT IN A COMMITTEE TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL PROOF OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

>> Ted: THE FACT THAT SHE STILL DOESN'T THINK SHE DID ANYTHING WRONG AND ACCORDING TO THE BILL HERE, THE RESOLUTION, SHE LIED, TRIED TO HIDE THE FACT AND DID ALL OF THAT FACTOR INTO THE EXPULSION?

>> THAT I DON'T KNOW.

THE MAIN POINT IS, IF SHE BELIEVES WHAT SHE SAID WAS CORRECT, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT AND THAT'S HER BELIEF.

I WON'T TELL HER SHE'S WRONG.

BUT WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ETHIC'S COMMITTEE AND WITH HER TESTIMONY, IT WAS STILL FELT, NO, WE DIDN'T THINK WHAT WAS STATED WAS ACCURATE.

>> Ted: SHE SAID THE ETHIC'S COMMITTEE REPORT IS A LIE AND GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

>> I WON'T GO AGAINST WHAT SHE THINKS AND BELIEVES.

SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO FEEL HOW SHE FEELS AND I THINK THE DECISION WAS MADE AND THE CORRECT ONE.

>> Ted: DID YOU AGREE WITH THE DECISION?

>> I VOTED YES.

>> Ted: LAST POINT ON THIS AND I WANT TO GET TO THE BUDGET IN A SECOND.

THE CRITICS SAY WILL MAKE HER A MARTYR.

>> WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD AS A LEGISLATURE AND KNEW WE NEEDED TO GET THE WORK DONE, THE PEOPLE'S WORK DONE AND THIS IS WHY IT HAPPENED AND A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS FELT THE SAME AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD.

>> Ted: ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT A PRECEDENT?

>> THIS SHOWS, LOOK, LIKE I SAID, AN INSTITUTION THAT IF YOU COME WITH ACCUSATIONS, THEY HAVE TO BE ACCURATE AND IF THEY'RE CRIMINAL, THEY SHOULD GO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS IS NOT A PLACE THAT YOU BRING THIS KIND OF ACCUSATIONS.

YOU DON'T BRING THIS TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

THIS SETS AN EXAMPLE IF YOU HAVE THIS IN THE FUTURE, GO THROUGH THE RIGHT CHANNELS BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING AS MAJOR WHAT'S AS THIS.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?

>> I'VE WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND TWO EXPULSIONS AND THANKFULLY, I WAS IN THE OPPOSITE CHAMBER AND THIS IS EXTREMELY A SERIOUS STEP AND YOU'RE REMOVING SOMEBODY ELECTED AND SOMETIMES IT'S NECESSARY.

I KNOW THE ISSUE IS LOOKED INTO DEEPLY BY THE COMMITTEE.

A REPORT WAS ISSUED AND MEMBERS WERE TALKING ABOUT HER FOR A LONG TIME AND VOTED AS THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO.

IT WAS A DIVIDED VOTE.

>> Ted: 46-13 IS OVERWHELMING AND WE DO THIS EVERY WEDNESDAY AND THIS HAPPENED TODAY.

WE WANTED YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS AND I WANT YOUR REEXPERIENCE TO RESPONSE TO THE BUDGET.

IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S OPTIMISTIC AND ARE YOU?

>> I AM, I AM.

THE BUDGET GOT OFF TO A ROCKY START AND REPUBLICANS WERE CONCERNED THAT WE GET TO GRIDLOCK AND WE TRY TO TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY NECESSARY TO CONTINUE BUDGET -- THE GOVERNMENT, IF WE COULDN'T GET A SETTLEMENT PASSED AND THEN DEAL WITH THE EXTRA MONEY DURING THE SESSION AND THE GOVERNOR STRATEGICALLY SAID NO WAY AND I DON'T BLAME HER, FRANKLY.

THAT WOULD HAVE.

BEEN GOOD GOOD FOR US.

WE GAVE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS A LOT OF LATITUDE AND WOUND UP GETTING THIS AMAZING CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE 16 REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND 31 REPS AND GOT AN AGREEMENT ON A GOOD BUDGET SETTING ASIDE SIGNIFICANT MONEY FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

AND NOW, WE BASICALLY ARE SAYING WE'RE HAPPY WITH OUR SHARE OF THE PIE.

AS LONG YOUR SHARE ISN'T TOXIC, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

>> Ted: ARE YOU WORK WIG WORKING WITH DEMOCRATS IN THE LEGISLATURE AND THEY SAY NO?

>> I SPOKE TO THE DEMOCRAT SLURS LEGISLATORS.

THE HOUSE DID THE SAME THING AND THEY WOULD NOT GIVE THAT TO US AND LEADERSHIP, THE SPEAKER DID THE SAME THING AND THEY'RE DEALING.

>> Ted: THEY'RE DEALING AND YOUR OPTIMISTIC, TOO.

WE HAVE ALL OF THE BASES COVERED AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

>> Ted: MORE THAN 50 MILLION AMERICANS RECEIVE SOCIAL SUPREME COURT BENEFITS EACH MONTH AND MANY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS OR WHAT THE SYSTEM ENTAILS.

JOHN BURNS, GOD GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

DEFINE SOCIAL SECURITY AND HOW IT WORKS.

>> SOCIAL SECURITY IS AN INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR WORKERS.

IN THE COUNTRY, THE MAJORITY OF WORKERS THAT CONTRIBUTE THROUGH THE FICA WITH WITHHOLDING WITH HAVE SURVIVING AND RETIREMENT.

IT'S FOR WORKERS AND WE CAN SAY THAT IF A NUTSHELL.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU SIGN UP TO RECEIVE IT?

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO BEFORE AND AFTER YOU WHERE THAT CERTAIN AGE?

>> SEVERE, LONG-TERM DISABILITY COULD BE ELIGIBLE AND THAT'S NOT AGE RELATED AND RETIREMENT, THE EARLIEST AGE IS 62 WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT EVERYONE HAVE AN ONLINE ACCOUNT TO BE MONITORING THEIR EARNINGS' HISTORY AND THE ACCURACY WILL DETERMINE AN ACCURATE BENEFIT.

>> Ted: THE ONLINE ACCOUNT AND THE ONLINE TOOLS, TALK MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

>> I WORK HERE IN ARIZONA AND WE HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT WE DO MONTHLY THREW THE PHOENIX THROUGH THE PHOENIX LIBRARIES AND THE ONLINE SERVICES WILL BE SOCIALSECURITY.GOV AND LOOK FOR THE MY SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT.

IF YOU REGISTER, YOU'LL HAVE BENEFIT ESTIMATES AND ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN GENERATE ESTIMATES TO PLAN FOR RETIREMENT.

>> Ted: THIS IS NOT THERE WAITING FOR YOU YOU YOU.

>> AGING CAN HELP YOU.

>> Ted: IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT IN YOUR WORKSHOPS?

>> ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME WITH SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONLINE ACCOUNT.

>> Ted: THE BENEFIT ESTIMATES, ARE THOSE IN THE ONLINE?

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 95 MONTHS THAT YOU CAN SELECT FROM BETWEEN THE AGE OF 62 AND 70 TO START YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND START COLLECTING.

THE MONTH YOU SELECT WILL BE IN SOME WAYS IN HOW MUCH YOU RECEIVE.

>> THE LATER YOU START, THE MORE YOU RECEIVE.

>> Ted: LET'S SAY YOU'RE EMPLOYED AND HAPPY, GO LUCKY, SKIPPING THROUGH LIFE, CAN YOU STILL GET SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS?

>> FULL RETIREMENT WHICH IS CLOSE TO 67, 66 AND SOME MONTHS AND YOU CAN COLLECT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FULL-TIME WORK.

PRIOR TO THAT FULL RETIREMENT, THERE ARE LIMITS TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN RECEIVE BEFORE THEY WOULD NEED TO REDUCE BENEFITS.

CHECK DIDN'T ON THAT INFORMATION IN ON THAT INFORMATION.

>> Ted: LET'S SAY YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF AND YEAH, YOU FIND AN ERROR, WHAT DO YOU DO.

>> THAT'S DO?

>> WE'RE A WORK ADMINISTERS AND PEOPLE ARE ON CALL TO CORRECT THE EARNING'S RECORD BECAUSE WE'LL BE MEETING OUR GOALS TO PAY THE RIGHT AMOUNT AND THERE'S A DISCREPANCY, WE'LL WALK THEM THROUGH IT.

>> Ted: YOU TALKED ABOUT THE WORKSHOP AND ANYTHING ELSE OUR VIEWERS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY?

>> I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE TALKING TO YOUR HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT, YOUR EMPLOYER AT WORK, TALK TO PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEY NEED US TO TALK TO YOUR COWORKERS ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY.

WE DO THAT WITH LARGE EMPLOYERS.

>> Ted: I SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVEN THOSE WHO GET IT DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.

DO YOU FIND THAT THE CASE?

>> I DO.

YOU MENTIONED IF YOU WAIT UNTIL LATER AGE, YOU GET A HIGHER MONTHLY AMOUNT AND PEOPLE HAVE THEIR BEARINGS WITH AND A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS PEOPLE FACE.

>> Ted: IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY IN GENERAL, WHERE DO YOU GO?

>> THE WORKSHOPS ARE THROUGH THE PHOENIX LIBRARY, PHOENIXLIBRARY.ORG AND IN TERMS OF THE REQUESTING SOMEONE TO DO A ZOOM MEETING OR HAVE US TALK TO YOUR OFFICE ON SOCIAL SECURITY, THROUGH THE WEBSITE UNDER THE COMMUNICATION'S LINK, SSA.GOV AND YOU CAN REQUEST A SPEAKER.

>> Ted: JOHN BURNS, GREAT INFORMATION AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS, TED.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!