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Proposed Ordinance Could Restrict Dollar Stores in Chicago
Clip: 1/24/2024 | 8m 21sVideo has Closed Captions
Proponents said the large number of stores has created a nuisance in many neighborhoods.
Dollar Stores have been at the center of complaints over unsafe working conditions, overflowing trash bins and crumbling buildings. A proposed ordinance looks to restrict the locations of these stores in an effort to crack down on the situation.
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Proposed Ordinance Could Restrict Dollar Stores in Chicago
Clip: 1/24/2024 | 8m 21sVideo has Closed Captions
Dollar Stores have been at the center of complaints over unsafe working conditions, overflowing trash bins and crumbling buildings. A proposed ordinance looks to restrict the locations of these stores in an effort to crack down on the situation.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> AT >> YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, DOLLAR GENERAL FAMILY DOLLAR STORE SHOPPERS CAN FIND EVERYTHING FROM HOLIDAY DECORATIONS TO CANNED FOODS OFTEN FOR 5 BUCKS OR LESS.
YEAH.
THE SO-CALLED SMALL BOX RETAILERS HAVE BEEN AT THE CENTER OF COMPLAINTS OVER UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS, OVERFLOWING TRASH BINS ON THEIR PROPERTY IN CRUMBLING BUILDINGS.
A PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN CITY COUNCIL LOOKS TO RESTRICT THE LOCATIONS OF THE STORES IN AN EFFORT TO CRACK DOWN ON THE SITUATION.
JOINING US NOW IS LETTING US WHO IS SERVING AS LEGAL COUNSEL FOR DOLLAR TREE.
WE SHOULD MENTION WE ALSO INVITED 19TH WARD ALDERMAN MATT O'SHEA, BUT HE DECLINED OUR INVITATION LYNNEA SORROW.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING I'M SO AS I MENTIONED, 19TH WARD ALDERMAN MATT O'SHEA.
HE INTRODUCED THIS HERE'S A BIT OF WHAT HE TOLD COLLEAGUES AT A MONDAY COMMITTEE MEETING.
>> I HAVE EMAILED AND TELEPHONED.
DOLLAR STORE OPERATORS AT THE CORPORATE LEVEL.
ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EXISTING STORES.
NO RESPONSE.
>> BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL ATOP FILTHY.
THEY DON'T KEEP THE TRASH UP IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITIES AND MY COMMUNITY.
THERE'S ONE A BLOCK UP FROM MY HOUSE AND EVERY WEEK I'M CALLING ABOUT A GATE.
THIS DOW WHICH CAUSES PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT.
THAT PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THEY HIRE IS RIDICULOUS.
LITERALLY MY DAUGHTER WAS BY HER MANAGER.
SO BRING HER CARRYING CAN SEE BECAUSE HE DID NOT SAFE.
HAIL ALONG WITH 6 OTHER EMPLOYEES WALKED OUT AND HE LEFT HIS KEYS.
WELL, AS THE DALLAS TOWARD >> WHEN HE HAD AS DOLLAR GENERAL, HOW HE WILL RESPOND, SOME OF THESE ACCUSATIONS OVER COMPLAINTS GO UNHEARD CRUMBLING BUILDINGS, OVERFLOWING TRASH.
>> AS LEGAL COUNSEL FOR A FOR FAMILY DOLLAR AND DOLLAR TREE WE'VE AND WE'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE OTHERS.
WE ACTUALLY I MET PERSONALLY, OUR WHOLE TEAM ACTUALLY MET WITH THE COMPANY WITH ALDERMAN O'SHEA BACK IN OCTOBER, WE MET WITH HIM IN HIS OFFICE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND HE EXPRESSED TO SIMILAR COMMENTS THAT HE MADE RIGHT AFTER THAT WE THEN STARTED TO REACH WE MEETING THE COMPANY IS WELL, AS ON OF FOLKS ON THE GROUND HERE IN CHICAGO TO REACH OUT TO ENGAGE WITH ALDERS ON THE 228 STORES IN 121 OF THE STORES ARE IN WORDS THAT LED BY BLACK AUTHORS.
AND WE MADE CONCERTED EFFORT TO TRY TO ENGAGE AND WE DID ENGAGE WITH AS MANY AS WE COULD BETWEEN THE PERIOD OF NOVEMBER UNTIL DECEMBER.
AND SO WE WANTED TO TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE WHAT THE OTHER WOMAN HAD INDICATED EXPRESSION THE COMPLAINT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WE HEAR THEM AND WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACTUALLY DO A BETTER JOB AND ADDRESS THOSE CONDITIONS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION DOLLAR TREE DOLLAR GENERAL.
I MISSPOKE EARLIER.
WHAT IS DOLLAR TREE'S CONCERN WITH THIS ORDINANCE THAT ALDERMAN HAS PRESENTED?
>> WITH THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN IS DIFFERENT THAN ORDINANCE ACTUALLY WAS SUBSTITUTED LATE LAST WEEK AND IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS MADE LAST WEEK IS THE ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED ON IN THAT CLIP.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE ORDINANCE IS THAT IT'S A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
IT IS A ONE-MILE RESTRICTION WITH NO EXCEPTIONS AND IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ULTIMATE ISSUES WHICH IS TO ADDRESSED OR CONDITIONS AND TO TO ACTUALLY DELIVER AND PRODUCE RESULT.
THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO APPROACH THIS WHAT HAS BEEN OFFERED AS AN ALTERNATE ORDINANCE ALTERNATE ORDINANCE WOULD ACTUALLY EMPOWER THE ALDERS.
HOW WOULD EMPOWER THE ALDERS ONE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE?
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS IN ONE IS A SPAT REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO TO OPEN UP A NEW STORE.
AND THE SECOND IS TO A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE DOLLARS.
WHAT DOES THAT DO?
IT ALLOWS THE ALDERS TOOK PER HAVE INPUT, ACCOUNTABILITY AND BE RESPONSIVE TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
>> DO YOU THINK THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS IN SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THAT FOLKS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT.
>> ORDINANCE IS REALLY NOT DESIGNED TO ADDRESS CONDITIONS AS MUCH AS AS WITH THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE STATED PURPOSE WAS, WHICH WAS TO ADDRESS FOOD DESERT.
AND THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE IN A LARGER ISSUE.
THERE'S AN ARTICLE BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, BUT NOW WE MOURN THE SOMETIMES AND IT TALKS ABOUT REALLY WHAT THE BIG ISSUES ARE WITH REGARD TO FOOD DESERTS.
LOT OF THE BIG BOX RETAILERS HAVE LEFT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN FAMILY DOLLAR DOLLAR TREE OR DOLLAR STORES QUITE FRANKLY, SMALL RETAILERS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE IN TO SERVE AND ALL THE OTHERS HAVE INDICATED THE ONES THAT WE'VE MET WITH AND EVEN AT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY SERVE A PURPOSE.
THEY ACTUALLY DO DELIVER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE CUSTOMER'S IS JUST RESPONDING SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT WERE THAT NATALIE MOORE ALSO HAD THAT SAME COLUMN SHE POINTS TO ABOUT 5.
>> OF THESE STORIES THAT ARE DOLLAR TREE FAMILY DOLLAR ON BEING BUILT ALONG THE BUSY STONY AVENUE THOROUGHFARE IN AROUND HER NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE SOUTH SIDE.
>> THAT'S A LOT OF STORIES THAT COME IN WHEN ONE THOROUGHFARE.
AND AS YOU SAID, THEY THEY NEED NEED THAT SOME OF THE OTHER STORES AREN'T NECESSARILY MEETING.
BUT ARE THEY?
ARE THEY PROVIDING THAT MUCH FRESH IN THE IN THE ABSENCE OF A GROCERY STORE?
>> BUSINESS MODEL, ACTUALLY, THEY DON'T PROVIDE FRESH FRUIT.
AND REPORTED DOLLARS WAS NEVER PURPORTED TO ACTUALLY TO DO THAT.
SITE.
SELECTION IS MORE OF A CORPORATE FUNCTION AS TO WHERE SITES CAN BE LOCATED.
GIVEN THE SIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE, ACCESS AVAILABILITY, IT'S REALLY DESIGNED TO A CONVENIENT CUSTOMERS TO GET TO.
AND SO THAT SORT OF WHY THEY'RE LOCATED, WHETHER LOCATED.
>> THAT I BELIEVE EARLIER, YOU MENTIONED OF THE 128 THAT ARE IN THE CHICAGO AREA ABOUT 121 OF THEM.
IS THAT RIGHT ARE IN AWARD-WORTHY.
ALDERMAN THE PERSON IS BLACK, WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT THERE'S A MAJORITY BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK RESIDENTS IN THOSE WORDS, BUT NOT ALWAYS IS IS THE CASE THAT WHAT FACTORS DO THE STORES CONSIDER WHEN DECIDING WHERE TO PLACE A NEW STORE WILL BUILD ONE.
>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW CORPORATE DOES THEIR SITE SELECTION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY ROLE IS AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
BUT THEY DO HAVE A SITE SELECTION PROCESS.
LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER CORPORATION OR STORE BIG BOX ON RESTAURANTS, FAST FOOD.
BUT WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO IS LOCATED WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SERVE THEIR CUSTOMERS IN THE MOST CONVENIENT WAY THAT THEY CAN'T.
>> WE SAW THIS CLIP OF THAT COMMITTEE MEETING MANY COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
OBVIOUSLY, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SHARING THEIR CONCERNS, BUT WANT TO PLAY ANOTHER ONE FROM ALDERWOMAN, JEANETTE TAYLOR.
>> WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I GUESS TO THE CHAIR, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS YOU ALL HAVE IN THE LAST 4 YEARS AGAINST FAMILY DOLLAR FAMILY, GENERAL DOLLAR GENERAL, WHATEVER THEY ARE CALL BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THE WORST.
NOW CAMP, THEY GOT LAW.
YOU SEE WHERE ARE THEY?
THEY ARE NOT HERE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WHICH IS SPOT, WHICH IS A DISRESPECT BUT THEY WANT TO MOVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I WOULD LOVE PUT UP A A MAP TO SHOW WHERE THEY'RE CONCENTRATED AND I GUARANTEE JOIN KNOW EXACTLY CONCENTRATED AT.
>> WHEN ARE YOU SAY YOU WERE THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> I YOU'RE RIGHT.
I DID.
AND I WAS A LIMITED IN TIME.
I WOULD LIKED TO AT LEAST ADDRESS MORE THINGS WE WE WERE NOT INVITED ATTEND THE MEETING.
THERE ARE OTHER 3RD PARTIES THAT WERE INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING AND THEY WERE GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD HAVE.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A CONSTRUCTIVE WHO IS A STAKEHOLDER, NOT JUST A DOLLAR STORES, BUT OTHERS AS WELL WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TO SPEAK AND TO AND TO LISTEN TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND TO DISCUSS HIS CONSTRUCTIVELY SECONDS LEFT.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT IS NEXT FOR THIS ORDINANCE?
>> WHAT WOULD WE WOULD LIKE IS WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE OTHERS TO CONSIDER THIS ALTERNATIVE ORDINANCE, WHICH AGAIN EMPOWERS ALDERS THERE THE GEEK.
THEY SHOULD BE.
THE GATEKEEPERS GIVES HIM THE POWER TO MANAGE THEIR WORDS, TO WORK WITH THEIR CONSTITUENT.
IN THIS ALTERNATE ORDINANCE DOES EXACTLY THAT SPECIAL USE APPROVAL.
AND IT REQUIRES A LETTER OF SUPPORT BEFORE ANY NEW STORE PUT INTO A NEW WORD.
AND THERE WOULD BE STILL A DISTANCE RESTRICTION ONE MILES, A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE RESTRICTION.
CANNABIS AND OTHER USES.
THERE'S NO ONE MILE DISTANCE RESTRICTION.
I HAVE A LIST, BUT THERE'S LIKE 500 FEET UP INTO 1000 FEET FOR OTHER USES.
THIS IS ONE MILE.
OKAY.
I'M SURE THERE'S MORE TO TALK ABOUT PROBABLY SOMETHING WE'LL BE COVERING AGAIN.
LINEAS ARE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU VERY
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