>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

MARICOPA COUNTY ATTORNEY RACHEL EXPLAINS HER CONCERN TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER ON PROSECUTING ABORTION CASES.

ALSO TONIGHT THE IMPACT OF AI ON LOCAL, NATIONAL AND GLOBAL ECONOMY.

AND AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT CHILDREN WHOSEPARENTS ARE DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZONS.

>>> MORE THAN 54 MILLION AMERICANS ARE EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE DANGEROUS LEVELS OF HEAT TODAY INCLUDING ARIZONA WHERE EXTREME TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST FOR MUCH OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST AREAS OF THE STATE AND INDEED EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNINGS ISSUED IN THE METRO AREA THROUGH JULY 16th AND EXPECTED TO EXTEND EVEN LONGER.

IN THE NORTHEASTERN U.S.

THEY'RE DEALING WITH INTENSE RAIN AND FLASH FLOODING.

THIS WAS THE SCENE IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT WAS HIT WITH 3 AND A 1/3 INCHES OF RAIN YESTERDAY ALONE AND IN NEW YORK MORE THAN 7.5 INCHES OF RAIN FELL IN SIX HOURS YESTERDAY.

THERE'S BEEN ONE FATALITY ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF HOME RESCUES, OVER 9 MILLION PEOPLE ARE UNDER A FLOOD ALERT ACROSS THE REGION.

>>> KAMALA HARRIS' VISIT TO ARIZONA LAST WEEK INCLUDED A STOP AT GILA RIVER COMMUNITY.

THE VICE-PRESIDENT ALSO SPOKE WITH THE ARIZONA PBS PROGRAM REQUESTED INDIAN COUNTRY TODAY" TO AND ABOUT INCLUDING THE TRIBES THE DECISION -- IN DECISIONS THAT AFFECT ALL AMERICANS.

>> WE SHOULD NOT BE BURDENED BY THINGS THE WAY THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO WHAT SHOULD BE.

THE FACT THAT SECRETARY HOLLAND IS THE FIRST IS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THAT REPRESENTATION SHOULD OCCUR.

IT SHOULD HAPPEN.

AND SO THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH INDIAN COUNTRY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT HANDOUTS BUT ABOUT PARTNERSHIP.

LET'S ASK TRIBAL LEADERS TO BE PART OF THE LEADERSHIP OF AN INITIATIVE AND AN INNOVATIVE INITIATIVE.

>> THE VICE-PRESIDENT WAS ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE CRISIS OF MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN.

>> SECRETARY HOLLAND HAS CREATED A WHOLE DIVISION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR THAT DID NOT INCLUDE SUPPORT TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

SO WE'LL CONTINUALLY WORK ON IT, BUT FOR THE FAMILY AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING AND OF COURSE OUR PRAYERS WITH WITH -- ARE WITH THE FAMILIES BUT ALSO PUTTING IN THE RESOURCES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

>>> A NEW 10-YEAR STUDY SHOWS JUST A BIT OF EXERCISE CAN COUNTER CHRONIC DEPRESSION IN ADULTS.

A STUDY FOLLOWED 4,000 ADULTS WHO WERE ASKED EVERY TWO YEARS ABOUT THEIR PHYSICAL GIFT AND DEPRESSIVE SYMPTOMS AND FOUND THE MORE PEOPLE DID EXERCISING THE BETTER THEY FELT, THOSE THAT WORKED OUT 20 MINUTES A DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK HAD A 16% LOWER RATE FOR DEPRESSION AND 23% OF THOSE WHO EXERCISED TWO HOURS A DAY.

>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THIS IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER GIVEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL POWER OVER WHAT YOU THINK AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS YOUR THORT.

YOUR RESPONSE.

>> YES, WHEN SHE ISSUEDED EXECUTIVE ORDER WHAT IT BASICALLY SAID IS THAT ANY SUCH CASES WOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND PUT EXCLUSIVELY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

THAT'S SIMPLY SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE MUCH THE GOVERNOR'S AUTHORITY TO DO.

>> OKAY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT STATE LAW HERE.

HOW DOES STATE LAW KEEP THE GOVERNOR FROM DOING THIS?

>> WELL, THE STATUTE THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS TALKING ABOUT GIVES CERTAIN CASES TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

BUT IT SAYS UNLESS THE LAW STATES OTHERWISE.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOT THE PRIMARY PROSECUTOR IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

PRIMARY PROSECUTORS ARE THE VARIOUS 15 COUNTIERS TO.

AND SO THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE GREATER JURISDICTION.

AND SO THE GOVERNOR CANNOT JUST TAKE JURISDICTION AWAY FROM COUNTY ATTORNEYS WHO ARE ELECTED IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.

>> AND YET THE LAW DOES SAY THAT AN ATTORNEY GENERAL CAN EXERCISE SUPERVISOR OTHER POWERS OVER COUNTY ATTORNEYS.

>> AND AN EXAMPLE THAT HAVE IN OUR PAST.

WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE DON VOLLS CASE WHERE THERE WAS A PROSECUTION OF JOHN HARVEY ADAMSON BY THE MARICOPA COUNTY'S OFFICE IN 1976, AND YOU HAD A COUNTY ATTORNEY AT THAT TIME WHO WAS MAKING STATEMENTS THAT ACTUALLY RESULTED IN A MISTRIAL.

SO YOU HAD A SITUATION WHERE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS ENGAGING IN MISCONDUCT THAT JEOPARDIZED A CONVICTION IN THE CASE.

THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN TAKING AN ENTIRE GROUP CASE WHERE IS THERE HAS BEEN NO MISCONDUCT, IN FACT, THERE ARE NO CASES SO THAT THE CASES ARE NOT PROSECUTED UNDER THE LAW.

>> THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

>> AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHALL AT DISCRETION OF THE GOVERNOR PROSECUTE AND DEFEND ANY PROCEEDING IN A STATE COURT OTHER THAN A SUPREME COURT.

AGAIN, YOUR RESPONSE.

>> THE TOP OF THE LAW TALKS ABOUT "UNLESS THE LAW SAYS OTHERWISE" AND IF YOU LOOK AT JURISDICTION OF THE VARIOUS COUNTY ATTORNEYS IT IS A MORE GENERAL JURISDICTION.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, FOR EXAMPLE, SHE CAN'T EVEN GO INTO A COUNTY GRAND JURY WITHOUT EITHER MY PERMISSION OR THE PERMISSION OF A JUDGE.

NOT A GOVERNOR.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE SHE CAN JUST ASSUME SOMEONE ELSE'S JURISDICTION.

>> THE GOVERNOR IT'S A OFFICE CALLS THIS A FIGHT FOR REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM AND A PROTECTION AGAINST EXTREMISTS.

IS THERE A POINT IN THERE WHERE YOUR POSITION -- MAY NOT BE TALKING ABOUT YOU, BUT SHE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT COULD BE A LITTLE MORE ZEALOUS ALONG THESE LINES.

>> WELL, WE KNOW THAT THE DOBB'S DECISION CAME OUT OVER A YEAR FROM NOW AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE PROSECUTION BROUGHT IN ANY OF THE 15 COUNTIES.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE OVERZEALOUS, BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS SOMEBODY WHO IS AN EXTREMIST IN ANOTHER WAY.

AND THAT IS IF WE SET THIS AS A PRECEDENT WHERE A GOVERNOR THINKS THAT THEY CAN STRIP ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL'S POWERS, IT MAY NOT BE A BAD THING TODAY TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT IN FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE.

>> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THOUGH, TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS IS A 50-YEAR LAW ENSHRINED OVER IN THE PAST 50 YEARS AND SUDDENLY HAS BEEN OVERTURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT.

SHE CALLS IT AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION WHICH CALLS FOR THIS EXTRAORDINARY RESPONSE.

SHE DOES SHE A POINT?

>> WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY AN EMOTIONAL TOPIC AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A LOT 6 EMOTIONS ON BOTH SIDES BUT THE BOTTOMLINE IS THIS IS A GOVERNMENT OF LAW, NOT OF MEN.

AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR ENACTING LAWS IN THE STATE, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT.

IT INVOLVES THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR OR A REFERRAL TO THE PEOPLE.

AND IT CANNOT BE GOVERNED BY JUST ONE PERSON'S DECISION.

THAT IS A GOVERNMENT OF MEN.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE OR CONSISTENT WITH THE AMERICAN WAY OF DOING BUSINESS.

>> HYPOTHETICAL HERE.

SHOULD A RAPE VICTIM BE FORCED TO CARRY THE PREGNANCY -- THAT PREGNANCY TO TERM?

>> YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT THIS EXTENSIVELY.

OBVIOUSLY THE DOBBS CASE CAME DOWN WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING LAST YEAR AND I HAVE MADE IN VERY CLEAR THAT I WOULD NOT REVICTIMIZE VICTIMS OF RAPE AND INCEST.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO-LIFE OUT THERE WHO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THEM IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPENT 25 OF MY 30 YEARS AS A PROSECUTOR INVOLVING CASE WHERE IS THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IMPREGNATED THROUGH RAPE AND INCEST AND MOLESTATION.

IT'S THE JUST SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN, AND I HAVE SAID I WILL NOT REVICTIMIZE THEM.

>> THAT'S YOU.

BUT SHOULD THESE RAPE VICTIMS BE PROTECTED FROM OVERZEALOUS PROSECUTORS WHO DON'T HAPPEN TO BE YOU?

>> AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO CONSIDER THAT OR THE PEOPLE NEED CONSIDER IT IN AN INITIATIVE OR REFERENDUM TO SEE IF THERE SHOULD BE AN EXCEPTION IN THERE.

NOW, RIGHT NOW THE LAW IS -- THERE IS A BAN AFTER 15 WEEKS.

SO ABORTIONS ARE STILL LEGAL UP TO 15 WEEKS, AND THEN THERE IS THE EXCEPTION FOR THE MOTHER'S LIFE.

IF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THAT'S APPROPRIATE, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE SAID THAT I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS A RAPE/INCEST EXCEPTION THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, THEN IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN INTO THE LAW.

BUT WHAT IT CANNOT BE IS ONE PERSON'S DECISION.

>> OKAY.

BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, THEN, IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN INTO THE LAW AND IT'S ONE PERSON'S DECISION IN COUNTY XYZ, TO GO AHEAD AND PROSECUTE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULDN'T TOUCH AT ALL, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, BOTH OFFICE HOLDERS SAY THIS IS OUR WAY OF PROTECTING AGAINST, 57, EXTREME PROSECUTION, PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION ON THE PART OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

DO THEY HAVE A POINT?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IN TALKING TO THE OTHER 15 -- 14 COUNTY ATTORNEYS, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT KIND OF EXTREMISM AT ALL, AND IT'S REALLY OUR WISH THAT THIS IS NEVER PROSECUTED IN THE SENSE THAT PEOPLE FOLLOW THE LAW.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DID, THEY DID NOT REACT TO A SPECIFIC CASE WHERE EXTREMISM WAS OCCURRING.

THEY TRIED TO TAKE ALL OF THE POWER AWAY FROM ELECTED COUNTY ATTORNEYS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.

INCLUDING CASES THAT DON'T INVOLVE THAT.

AND THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

AND IT'S A VERY, VERY FRIGHTENING PRESS DEBT TO START.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, YOU'VE EXPRESSED YOUR CONCERN, YOUR OPPOSITION, YOU'VE WRITTEN A LETTER, THE GOVERNOR'S RESPONDED SAYING THAT'S JUST NOT GOING GOING TO RESCIND.

WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE?

OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HANDLED IF IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY, THROUGH A DISCUSSION.

I WAS HOPING THAT THE GOVERNOR THROUGH TALKING TO OTHERS AS WELL AS THE LETTER WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THIS, THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT.

SHE CHOSE NOT TO, AND THAT'S WITHIN HER PURVIEW.

BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE HER THE AUTHORITY.

AND SO WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE IS WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS WE HAVE FOR THE PAST YEAR.

IF A CASE IS SUBMITTED, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO CASES SUBMITTED TO ME.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME PROCEDURE THAT WE FOLLOW FOR EVERY OTHER CASE, THE CHARGE STANDARD I'M GOING TO LOOK AT.

SAME ONE I USE FOR EVERY OTHER CASE, A REASONABLE LIKELIHOOD OF CONVICTION.

OF COURSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT COMMUNITY ATTITUDES IN THAT CONSIDERATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED BUSINESS AS USUAL.

>> IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GOING TO IGNORE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER?

>> IN OTHER WORDS, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

>> WHICH MEANS IGNORING THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.

>> THE EXECUTIVE ORDER HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF OVERCOMING THE LAW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IS THIS A WAY THEN FOR THIS TO MOVE ON TO THE COURTS?

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WOUND IN WAY ANYWAY, BUT YOU GOTTA GET A CASE AND HAVE -- >> I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT DOESN'T GO THAT WAY.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT TRY TO PURR SHOE THAT IN THIS WAY, BUT -- PURSUE THAT IN THIS WAY BUT WE'RE PREPARED IF THAT HAPPENS.

>> FOR THOSE WHO SAY THE GOVERNOR IS WRONG BECAUSE HE'S NOT FOLLOWINGED LAW -- ZEST NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW BUT OTHERS WOULD SAY SHE'S NOT FOLLOWING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND.

>> IN THE CONSTITUTION, THE LAW TRUMPS EXECUTIVE ORDER.

I'VE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME PAST WEEKEND AND THE PAST TWO WEEKS AND I'M CONFIDENT OF MY POSITION.

>> RACHEL MITCHELL, MARICOPA COUNTY ATTORNEY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS FOR US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> AND UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

>> ARTIFICIAL SPEAK WITH JONES OR AI IS HAVING AN INCREASING IMPACT ON SOCIETY AND THAT IN TURN IS MAKING FOR AN INCREASING IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY.

TO COME OUT AND DISCUSS THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT WE WELCOME VICTOR BENJAMIN AND GREGORY DAWSON FROM THE SCHOOL OF ACCOUNTSY.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> THE IMPACT OF AI JUST ON THE ECONOMY IN GENERAL.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE?

>> YEAH.

AI WILL BE A MAJOR DISRUPTER.

IT'S GETTING MOMTIZED, MORE BUSINESSES ARE INCORPORATING IT INTO THE WORKLOADS AND COMING UP WITH NEW VALUE PROPOSITIONS FOR IT.

I THINK LIKE ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL SHIFT WE WILL SEE SOME JOBS OR CAREER PATHS BECOME OBSOLETE BUT OTHER ALSO EXPAND.

SO IT'S NOT ALL DOOM AND GLOOM.

>> IMPACT ON GPT AND PRODUCTIVITY, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?

>> IT'S AMAZING.

WE'VE GOT THE BIRTH OF A NEW MILLENNIUM IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING WORK.

JOBS THAT WERE ONCE SAFE AND SECURE ARE CHANGING DRAMATICALLY AND IT'S GOING TO CAUSE UPHEAVAL LIKE WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

>> HAVING SEEN A MEMBER AUTOMATION, IT DID REPLACE MANY JOBS, IT'S AI OUGHT AUTOMATION ON STEROIDS?

>> I WAS GOING TO USE THAT EXACT PHRASE, YEAH.

BUT REMEMBER IT'S KIND OF LIKE NUCLEAR POWER WHEN NUCLEAR POWER FIRST CAME OUT, PEOPLE WERE AFRAID OF IT.

IT'S NOW GONE INTO MAIN NANCY JUST LIKE AI WILL AND AI HAS GOT A GOOD SIDE AND A BAD SIDE JUST LIKE NUCLEAR POWER.

WE GOTTA PAY ATTENTION TO BOTH.

>> THE EFFECT OF AI ON ARIZONA'S ECONOMY AS OPPOSED TO NATIONAL AND GLOBAL.

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE WORKFORCE, FOR HUMANS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIES THAT ARE TECH HEAVY HERE IN THE VALLEY, TECH FOCUSED SO THERE'S A PERFECT COUPLING OF AI TECHNOLOGY STARTING TO GROW IN THE VALLEY AND 2/3rds OF OCCUPATIONS COULD BE PARTIALLY AUTOMATED BY AI.

WILL THAT BE OFF-SET IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BY NEW JOBS?

>> YES, I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THERE WILL BE NEW AVENUES TO USE AI TO CREATE NEW VALUE COMPOSITION.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT POSSIBLILY NEW INDUSTRIES, NEW SERVICES OFFERED FOR CUSTOMER'S.

SO THERE IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE NEW AVENUES TO EXPLORE AND PURSUE.

BUT IT'LL COME JUST LIKE ANY TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE.

>> WITH WHAT KIND OF INCOME ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE?

>> THAT'S THE THING.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY WELL-PAYING JOBS, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKE AWAY -- THE JOBS THAT WE'RE LOSING TEND TO BE THE LOWER-PAYING JOBS.

THE ONES THAT ARE EASILY AUTOMATED.

IT'S BEING REPLACED BY MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGED WORKERS AND KNOWLEDGED WORKERS ON STEROIDS.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE HIRING A BUNCH MORE THINKERS AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY DOERS.

>> WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE DOERS?

>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK THE EASY ANSWER IS THEY'VE GOTTA BE TRAINED TO BE PART OF THE NEW ECONOMY.

THE WORLD IS SHIFTING.

WE HAVE TO ENABLE THESE PEOPLE TO TAKE PART IN IT.

IT IS GOING TO OFFER UP A BUNCH OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT -- WHERE THEY CAN GROW AND EVOLVE THEIR SKILL SET TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

>> IN AN INDUSTRY LIKE BANKING, AI USED -- I GUESS TO FOLLOW TRANSACTIONS, DO ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO NOW, WE GONNA BE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT A COMPUTER WATCHING A COMPUTER WATCHING A COMPUTER DO BANKING TRANSACTION AS SOON AS.

>> I THINK ULTIMATELY THE TREND IS SHIFTING TIENDERS CREASED PERSONALIZATION.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TECH CAN -- TECHNOLOGICAL SHIFTS, STARTED WITH COMPUTERS, WE HAVE THIS INCREASE IN PUSH FOR PERSONALIZATION.

I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO BANKING, WE WILL HAVE INCREASED PERSONALIZATION AND EVALUATION OF EVERYONE'S CASE.

AND HOPEFULLY WHAT THAT LEADS TO IN THE END IS INCREASED CUSTOMER SERVICE, BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE CUSTOMER.

I THINK WE CAN TRUST THE ALGORITHM, THEY'RE ROOTED IN MATHEMATICS.

IT'S NOT SOME MYSTICAL THING WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

>> BETTER SECURITY AGAINST BOGUS TRANSACTIONS.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OUTCOME.

RIGHT NOW MAYBE THERE ARE RULE-BASED METHODS WHERE THERE'S A STRANGE TRANSACTION LIKE YOUR CREDIT CARD WAS USED IN A COUNTRY YOU DON'T FREQUENT, A HUMAN MIGHT LOOK AT THAT CASE AND MORE AND MORE WE CAN RELY ON AI TO AUTOMATE THOSE CASES.

AI CAN LEARN ESSENTIALLY WHAT HUMANS HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, SO THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS COMING UP TODAY, THEY'VE EFFECTIVELY JUST INTERNALIZEED WHAT HUMANS HAVE ALREADY DONE.

SO IF YOU HAVE HUMANS EVALUATE FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS THAT AI CAN LEARN FROM THAT AND REP DATE THAT PROCESS.

>> WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW FORECASTING TO A GREAT DEGREE, ECONOMIC FORECAST IS BIG BUSINESS.

>> YEP.

>> HOW DOES AI AFFECT THAT?

I WOULD IMAGINE I COULD BE INTERVIEWING A COUPLE OF BOXES HERE JUST SPITTING OUT LANGUAGE.

I MEAN, HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT GDP AND PRODUCTIVITY IF AI IS IN THE MIX?

>> WELL, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AI, WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A MODEL AND YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN PLAY HERE.

YOU'VE GOT SIGNAL, WHICH IS STUFF THAT POSITIVELY ADDS TO IT, AND YOU'VE GOT NOISE, STUFF THAT DISTRACTS FROM IT.

OKAY.

WHAT WE'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON IS HOW TO BUILD A MODEL WITH MAXIMUM SIGNAL AND MINIMUM NOISE.

BUT WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING IS , AS MY COLLEAGUE POINT OUT HERE, IT'S EASY TO -- FOR BAD ACTORS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FIELD, IF YOU WILL, WITH BAD DATA TO CREATE A BAD OUTCOME.

>> AND THE IDEA OF AI UNDERSTANDING HUMAN NATURE.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

>> SO I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IT'S GETTING IN BUT THE LONGER ANSWER THERE IS WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

BUT THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL ECONOMY CHANGE.

YOU'VE GOTTA PAY ATTENTION.

>> AND THE LAST QUESTION, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE DISMAL SCIENCE IF YOU WILL?

>> ECONOMICS, I'M SORRY.

>> FAIR ENOUGH.

REGARDING ECONOMICS, I THINK OVERALL WE'LL SEE THIS IS JUST GONNA BE ANOTHER TOOL THAT LETS US DO MORE THINGS.

I THINK WITH AI ONE WE NEED -- ONE UNIQUE ASPECT OF IT IS EVERY TIME WE ACHIEVE SOME NEW LEVEL OF AI WE NO LONGER TEND TO CONSIDER IT AS AI.

WHEN WE THINK JUST OF A SPEECH TO TEXT TRANSCRIPTION.

THAT USED TO BE CONSIDERED SOME SOPHISTICATED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, EVEN JUST 10 YEARS, BUT NOW IT'S A GIVE-IN AND BUILT INTO SO MANY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES OUT THERE.

I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT TREND CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

WE'LL ACHIEVE NEW LEVELS OF AI AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, LET'S STEP THAT ASIDE, WHAT'S THE NEW THING TO GO FOR.

>> LAST QUESTION, I WANT A YEA OR NAY.

ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC?

>> YES, YEA.

>> VERY MUCH SO.

>> GOOD ENOUGH, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HI, I'M AJ O'NEILL AND YOU'RE WATCHING PLAY LIST 48 ON ARIZONA PBS.

IT WASN'T UNTIL MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT I THINK I STARTED WRITING SONGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROCESSING WHAT I WAS FEELING.

AND NOW THAT I'M OLDER THAT'S LIKE REALLY, REALLY WHAT SONG WRITING HAS BECOME FOR ME.

>>> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, HEAT WAVE FOR MUCH OF THE U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>>> THE CHILDREN'S TREEHOUSE FOUNDATION IS A LOCAL GROUP THAT PROVIDES HELP AND SUPPORT FOR CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.

OUR NEXT GUEST IS A TREEHOUSE FOUNDATION EXECUTIVE WELCOME.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS CANCER AFFECTS THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

WE OFTENTIMES HEAR FROM PATIENTS THEMSELVES SAYING THE WORST PART OF MY CANCER JOURNEY WASN'T CHEMO OR EXHAUSTION, IT WAS THE FEAR, THE STRESS OF TALKING TO MY KIDS ABOUT IT.

>> PSYCHO-SOCIAL INTERVENTION PROGRAM.

>> YEAH, WHAT CLIMB IS, CHILDREN'S LIVES INCLUDE BRAVERY -- WHAT IT IS A SIX-WEEK PROGRAM THAT HELPS KIDS IDENTIFY CHALLENGING EMOTIONS AND EQUIPS THEM WITH POSITIVE COPING STRATEGIES FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS.

>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES?

>> THERE'S A LOT.

THINGS LIKE BEING ABLE TO TAKE BREAKS FROM YOUR FEELINGS.

BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT ARE YOU IN CONTROL OF YOUR FEELINGS AND THAT PEOPLE -- EVERYONE ELSE IS IN CONTROL OF THEIR FEELINGS TOO, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THEM, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE WHEN THEY COME AND MAYBE JUST PREPARE FOR THE MORE CHALLENGING TIMES IN ADVANTAGES.

>> AND HELPING TO NORMALIZE THINGS LIKE ANGER AND SADNESS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE -- EVERYONE WILL GO THROUGH THAT.

THESE CHILDREN FEEL ALONE.

THEY HAVE FEARS LIKE, DID I CAUSE THIS, AM I GONNA CATCH THIS, IS MY MOM GONNA DIE?

THESE ARE COMMON FEELINGS AND SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE.

THERE'S OTHER KIDS JUST LIKE THEM.

>> AMY, AMY'S STORY.

WE HAVE ARTWORK HERE FROM AMY'S STORY, THE CHILD SITTING ON THE LETTER-A.

>> VERY SPECIAL TO US.

THAT STORY -- ONE OF OUR FACILITATORS HAD GONE INTO THIS HOSPITAL ROOM.

IT WAS A THURSDAY.

A LITTLE GIRL WAS SITTING IN THE CORNER OF HER MOTHER'S HOSPITAL ROOM.

HER MOTHER HAD LATE STAGE BREAST CANCER AND THIS WAS A THURSDAY, THIS CHILD SHOULD BE IN SCHOOL, BUT THEY AREN'T.

THE MOM WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER WHEN SHE WAS 2 YEARS OLD AND NOW 9-YEAR-OLDS, SEVEN YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN HER WHOLE LIFE.

LUCKILY THAT HOSPITAL HAD A CLIMB PROGRAM STARTING THAT FOLLOWING WEEK, THE LITTLE GIRL WAS ABLE TO BE ENROLLED AND ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIVITIES THAT SHE DID IS WHAT WE CALL A SCRIBBLE-IN, GIVE THE KIDS A PIECE OF PAPER, OFTENTIMES DRAW BIG CAPITAL LETTER ON IT JUST SO IT'S NOT BLANK AND ASK THEM A QUESTION, USE US TO DRAW A PICTURE HOW HAVE YOU BEEN FEELING LATELY.

AND THIS PICTURE WAS WHAT SHE SHOWED.

>> IF WE COULD SHOW THAT AGAIN, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING BECAUSE THE A IS TIPPED OVER SHE'S AT THE VERY TIP OF THE A AND KIND OF THERE BY HERSELF AND HANGING ON.

>> ALL ALONE OVER THIS.

AND THAT'S NOT -- THAT IS EXTREMELY COMMON.

THAT FEELING OF I HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO TALK TO, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PROCESS THIS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT LITTLE GIRL'S MOTHER PASSED AWAY THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND.

SO WE MISSED OUR CHANCE WITH HER, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE EARLIER.

>> MY FAMILY HAS A CONNECTION TO THIS, MY MOTHER LOST HER FATHER TO CANCER.

SO WORKING A NONPROFIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND CANCER SUPPORT, I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE, 2 MILLION NEW PATIENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, A LOT ARE PARENTS.

>> WORKING WITH KIDS CAN BE TRICKY THOUGH, ESPECIALLY IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

>> YEAH, SURE.

BUT IT'S REWARDING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS HARD AS IT IS, IT'S THAT IMPORTANT AS WELL.

>> AND RESPONSE SO FAR, HAVE YOU HAD KIDS COME BACK AS EITHER YOUNG ADULTS OR OLDER AND SAY THIS WAS A BIG DEAL TO ME?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, I HAD A MEETING WITH A WOMAN THE OTHER DAY WHO CAME TO CLIMB WHEN SHE WAS 12 YEARS OLD.

SHE WAS PRETTY MUCH A TEENAGER.

HAD TO BE DRAGGED IN TO CLIMB AND DIDN'T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, OVER THAT SIX WEEKS, COMPLETE TURNAROUND.

IT CLICKED AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS, SHE CAME BACK AS A VOLUNTEER TO WELCOME OTHER TEENAGERS INTO THE PROGRAM, AND NOW SHE'S WORKING AS A NURSE AT THAT SAME HOSPITAL WHERE SHE ATTENDED A CLIMB GROUP AS A CHILD.

AND SHE CREDITS CLIMB WITH BEING -- GIVING HER A LOT OF EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE -- THAT CARRIED HER EVEN TO ADULTHOOD.

>> WOW, VERY REWARDING.

GREGOR DEBRUHL, GREAT WORK AND CONTINUED SUCCESS.

>> YEAH, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY.

WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS HERE.

>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.