>>> COMING UP, A REPORT FROM >>> COMING UP, A REPORT FROM INDIA, IT'S OFFICIALLY ILLEGAL, >>> COMING UP, A REPORT FROM INDIA, IT'S OFFICIALLY ILLEGAL, BUT MANY INDIAN FAMILIES STILL INDIA, IT'S OFFICIALLY ILLEGAL, BUT MANY INDIAN FAMILIES STILL MANAGE TO SEE TO IT, THAT THEY BUT MANY INDIAN FAMILIES STILL MANAGE TO SEE TO IT, THAT THEY HAVE MORE BOYS THAN GIRLS.

MANAGE TO SEE TO IT, THAT THEY HAVE MORE BOYS THAN GIRLS.

>>> ALSO, ACTIVIST JIM WALLACE HAVE MORE BOYS THAN GIRLS.

>>> ALSO, ACTIVIST JIM WALLACE ON OVERCOMING THE COUNTRY'S >>> ALSO, ACTIVIST JIM WALLACE ON OVERCOMING THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY SERVING THE COMMON ON OVERCOMING THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY SERVING THE COMMON GOOD.

PROBLEMS BY SERVING THE COMMON GOOD.

>>> AND FOR THIS FAMILY, NO GOOD.

>>> AND FOR THIS FAMILY, NO COMPUTERS, NO CELL PHONES, NO >>> AND FOR THIS FAMILY, NO COMPUTERS, NO CELL PHONES, NO ERRANDS, NO WORK -- JUDY COMPUTERS, NO CELL PHONES, NO ERRANDS, NO WORK -- JUDY VALLENTI ON KEEPING THE SABBATH.

ERRANDS, NO WORK -- JUDY VALLENTI ON KEEPING THE SABBATH.

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>>> WELCOME, I'M BOB ABERNATHY, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

>>> WELCOME, I'M BOB ABERNATHY, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HOSTED THE IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HOSTED THE ANNUAL EASTER PRAYER BREAKFAST PRESIDENT OBAMA HOSTED THE ANNUAL EASTER PRAYER BREAKFAST AT THE WHITE HOUSE FRIDAY, ANNUAL EASTER PRAYER BREAKFAST AT THE WHITE HOUSE FRIDAY, NEARLY A WEEK AFTER WESTERN AT THE WHITE HOUSE FRIDAY, NEARLY A WEEK AFTER WESTERN CHRISTIANS CELEBRATED THE NEARLY A WEEK AFTER WESTERN CHRISTIANS CELEBRATED THE HOLIDAY.

CHRISTIANS CELEBRATED THE HOLIDAY.

LEADERS FROM MANY CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY.

LEADERS FROM MANY CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS ATTENDED.

LEADERS FROM MANY CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS ATTENDED.

THE PRESIDENT CALLED EASTER A TRADITIONS ATTENDED.

THE PRESIDENT CALLED EASTER A TIME TO REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE THE PRESIDENT CALLED EASTER A TIME TO REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS AND RECOMMIT TO TIME TO REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS AND RECOMMIT TO FOLLOWING HIS EXAMPLE.

OF JESUS AND RECOMMIT TO FOLLOWING HIS EXAMPLE.

HE REFLECTED IN PARTICULAR ON FOLLOWING HIS EXAMPLE.

HE REFLECTED IN PARTICULAR ON CARING FOR THE NEEDY.

HE REFLECTED IN PARTICULAR ON CARING FOR THE NEEDY.

>> WHEN WE TEND TO THE SICK, CARING FOR THE NEEDY.

>> WHEN WE TEND TO THE SICK, WHEN WE CONSOLE THOSE IN PAIN, >> WHEN WE TEND TO THE SICK, WHEN WE CONSOLE THOSE IN PAIN, WHEN WE SACRIFICE FOR THOSE IN WHEN WE CONSOLE THOSE IN PAIN, WHEN WE SACRIFICE FOR THOSE IN NEED, WHEREVER AND WHENEVER WE WHEN WE SACRIFICE FOR THOSE IN NEED, WHEREVER AND WHENEVER WE ARE THERE TO GIVE COMFORT, AND NEED, WHEREVER AND WHENEVER WE ARE THERE TO GIVE COMFORT, AND TO GUIDE AND TO LOVE, THEN ARE THERE TO GIVE COMFORT, AND TO GUIDE AND TO LOVE, THEN CHRIST IS WITH US.

TO GUIDE AND TO LOVE, THEN CHRIST IS WITH US.

>> THE FORMER ANGLICAN CHRIST IS WITH US.

>> THE FORMER ANGLICAN ARCHBISHOP OF CAPETOWN, SOUTH >> THE FORMER ANGLICAN ARCHBISHOP OF CAPETOWN, SOUTH AFRICA, DESMOND TUTU IS THIS ARCHBISHOP OF CAPETOWN, SOUTH AFRICA, DESMOND TUTU IS THIS YEAR'S RECIPIENT OF THE AFRICA, DESMOND TUTU IS THIS YEAR'S RECIPIENT OF THE TEMPLETON PRIZE, GIVEN TO THOSE YEAR'S RECIPIENT OF THE TEMPLETON PRIZE, GIVEN TO THOSE WHO AFFIRM LIFE'S SPIRITUAL TEMPLETON PRIZE, GIVEN TO THOSE WHO AFFIRM LIFE'S SPIRITUAL DIMENSION IT COMES WITH THE WHO AFFIRM LIFE'S SPIRITUAL DIMENSION IT COMES WITH THE WORLD'S LARGEST ANNUAL AWARD, DIMENSION IT COMES WITH THE WORLD'S LARGEST ANNUAL AWARD, $1.7 MILLION.

WORLD'S LARGEST ANNUAL AWARD, $1.7 MILLION.

TUTU WAS CHOSEN FOR HIS WORK $1.7 MILLION.

TUTU WAS CHOSEN FOR HIS WORK QUOTE ADVANCING SPIRITUAL TUTU WAS CHOSEN FOR HIS WORK QUOTE ADVANCING SPIRITUAL PRACTICES SUCH AS LOVE AND QUOTE ADVANCING SPIRITUAL PRACTICES SUCH AS LOVE AND FORGIVENESS.

PRACTICES SUCH AS LOVE AND FORGIVENESS.

TUTU WAS AN OUTSPOKEN CRITIC OF FORGIVENESS.

TUTU WAS AN OUTSPOKEN CRITIC OF RACIAL APARTHEID AND LATER TUTU WAS AN OUTSPOKEN CRITIC OF RACIAL APARTHEID AND LATER CHAIRED SOUTH AFRICA'S TRUTH AND RACIAL APARTHEID AND LATER CHAIRED SOUTH AFRICA'S TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.

CHAIRED SOUTH AFRICA'S TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.

IN A 2010 INTERVIEW ON THIS RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.

IN A 2010 INTERVIEW ON THIS PROGRAM, TUTU SAID HE HAS NEVER IN A 2010 INTERVIEW ON THIS PROGRAM, TUTU SAID HE HAS NEVER CALLED HIMSELF AN OPTIMIST.

PROGRAM, TUTU SAID HE HAS NEVER CALLED HIMSELF AN OPTIMIST.

>> I AM A PRISONER OF HOPE, CALLED HIMSELF AN OPTIMIST.

>> I AM A PRISONER OF HOPE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT KETTLE OF >> I AM A PRISONER OF HOPE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH.

WHICH IS A DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH.

OPTIMISM IS TOO LIGHT.

FISH.

OPTIMISM IS TOO LIGHT.

>> AT THE VATICAN, POPE FRANCIS OPTIMISM IS TOO LIGHT.

>> AT THE VATICAN, POPE FRANCIS THIS WEEK PAID HOMAGE TO SEVERAL >> AT THE VATICAN, POPE FRANCIS THIS WEEK PAID HOMAGE TO SEVERAL OF HIS PAPAL PREDECESSORS, ON THIS WEEK PAID HOMAGE TO SEVERAL OF HIS PAPAL PREDECESSORS, ON TUESDAY THE POPE PRAYED BEFORE OF HIS PAPAL PREDECESSORS, ON TUESDAY THE POPE PRAYED BEFORE THE TOMB OF JOHN PAUL II, ON THE TUESDAY THE POPE PRAYED BEFORE THE TOMB OF JOHN PAUL II, ON THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.

THE TOMB OF JOHN PAUL II, ON THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.

THE DAY BEFORE HE BECAME THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.

THE DAY BEFORE HE BECAME THE FIRST POPE TO VISIT EXCAVATIONS THE DAY BEFORE HE BECAME THE FIRST POPE TO VISIT EXCAVATIONS OF THE TOMB OF SAINT PETER, FIRST POPE TO VISIT EXCAVATIONS OF THE TOMB OF SAINT PETER, UNDER THE BASILICA NAMED FOR OF THE TOMB OF SAINT PETER, UNDER THE BASILICA NAMED FOR HIM.

UNDER THE BASILICA NAMED FOR HIM.

>>> ALSO THIS WEEK, THE VATICAN HIM.

>>> ALSO THIS WEEK, THE VATICAN RESPONDED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY >>> ALSO THIS WEEK, THE VATICAN RESPONDED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY POPE FRANCIS USUALLY SPEAKS RESPONDED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY POPE FRANCIS USUALLY SPEAKS PRAYERS RATHER THAN SINGING OR POPE FRANCIS USUALLY SPEAKS PRAYERS RATHER THAN SINGING OR CHANTING THEM.

PRAYERS RATHER THAN SINGING OR CHANTING THEM.

THE SPOKESMAN SAID HE BELIEVED CHANTING THEM.

THE SPOKESMAN SAID HE BELIEVED IT WAS DUE TO A HOARSENESS IN THE SPOKESMAN SAID HE BELIEVED IT WAS DUE TO A HOARSENESS IN THE POPE'S VOICE, IN AN EARLIER IT WAS DUE TO A HOARSENESS IN THE POPE'S VOICE, IN AN EARLIER INTERVIEW FRANCIS CALLED HIMSELF THE POPE'S VOICE, IN AN EARLIER INTERVIEW FRANCIS CALLED HIMSELF TONE DEAF.

INTERVIEW FRANCIS CALLED HIMSELF TONE DEAF.

WE HAVE A STORY TODAY ABOUT TONE DEAF.

WE HAVE A STORY TODAY ABOUT SELECTING BABIES BY SEX IN WE HAVE A STORY TODAY ABOUT SELECTING BABIES BY SEX IN INDIA.

SELECTING BABIES BY SEX IN INDIA.

THE PRACTICE MAY BE ILLEGAL, BUT INDIA.

THE PRACTICE MAY BE ILLEGAL, BUT MANY INDIAN FAMILIES THE PRACTICE MAY BE ILLEGAL, BUT MANY INDIAN FAMILIES CONSISTENTLY MANAGE TO HAVE MANY INDIAN FAMILIES CONSISTENTLY MANAGE TO HAVE FEWER GIRL BABIES THAN BOYS.

CONSISTENTLY MANAGE TO HAVE FEWER GIRL BABIES THAN BOYS.

>>> FOR SOME MONTHS PUJA, A FEWER GIRL BABIES THAN BOYS.

>>> FOR SOME MONTHS PUJA, A 22-YEAR-OLD MOTHER OF THREE HAS >>> FOR SOME MONTHS PUJA, A 22-YEAR-OLD MOTHER OF THREE HAS BEEN COMING TO THIS CRISIS 22-YEAR-OLD MOTHER OF THREE HAS BEEN COMING TO THIS CRISIS COUNSELING CENTER IN A LOWER BEEN COMING TO THIS CRISIS COUNSELING CENTER IN A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD OF COUNSELING CENTER IN A LOWER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD OF DELHI.

MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD OF DELHI.

PUJA IS TRYING TO KEEP HER DELHI.

PUJA IS TRYING TO KEEP HER FAMILY TOGETHER, HER HUSBAND AND PUJA IS TRYING TO KEEP HER FAMILY TOGETHER, HER HUSBAND AND IN-LAWS WITH WHOM SHE LIVED IN FAMILY TOGETHER, HER HUSBAND AND IN-LAWS WITH WHOM SHE LIVED IN THE COMMON TRADITION HERE, THREW IN-LAWS WITH WHOM SHE LIVED IN THE COMMON TRADITION HERE, THREW HER OUT OF THE HOUSE, THE THE COMMON TRADITION HERE, THREW HER OUT OF THE HOUSE, THE PROBLEM?

HER OUT OF THE HOUSE, THE PROBLEM?

ALL THREE OF HER CHILDREN ARE PROBLEM?

ALL THREE OF HER CHILDREN ARE GIRLS.

ALL THREE OF HER CHILDREN ARE GIRLS.

>> Translator: THE FAMILY SAYS GIRLS.

>> Translator: THE FAMILY SAYS THEY NEED SONS TO CARRY ON THEIR >> Translator: THE FAMILY SAYS THEY NEED SONS TO CARRY ON THEIR NAME.

THEY NEED SONS TO CARRY ON THEIR NAME.

AND SINCE I HAVE ONLY THREE NAME.

AND SINCE I HAVE ONLY THREE DAUGHTERS, THEY TRIED TO TRICK AND SINCE I HAVE ONLY THREE DAUGHTERS, THEY TRIED TO TRICK ME INTO SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS DAUGHTERS, THEY TRIED TO TRICK ME INTO SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS SO THAT THEIR SON COULD MARRY ME INTO SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS SO THAT THEIR SON COULD MARRY AGAIN.

SO THAT THEIR SON COULD MARRY AGAIN.

THAT LED TO SOME VIOLENCE WHEN I AGAIN.

THAT LED TO SOME VIOLENCE WHEN I REFUSED.

THAT LED TO SOME VIOLENCE WHEN I REFUSED.

AND I HAD TO RUN AWAY TO MY REFUSED.

AND I HAD TO RUN AWAY TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE FOR SAFETY.

AND I HAD TO RUN AWAY TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE FOR SAFETY.

>> THE PREFERENCE FOR BOY MOTHER'S HOUSE FOR SAFETY.

>> THE PREFERENCE FOR BOY CHILDREN DATES BACK CENTURIES, >> THE PREFERENCE FOR BOY CHILDREN DATES BACK CENTURIES, DRIVEN BY RELIGIOUS CUSTOM.

CHILDREN DATES BACK CENTURIES, DRIVEN BY RELIGIOUS CUSTOM.

>> ONLY BOYS CAN LOOK AFTER THE DRIVEN BY RELIGIOUS CUSTOM.

>> ONLY BOYS CAN LOOK AFTER THE PARENTS.

>> ONLY BOYS CAN LOOK AFTER THE PARENTS.

THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN PARENTS.

THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN PERFORM THE LAST RITES.

THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN PERFORM THE LAST RITES.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL PERFORM THE LAST RITES.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL CONTINUE THE FAMILY LINEAGE.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL CONTINUE THE FAMILY LINEAGE.

IF ALL THAT IS THERE, THEN WHY CONTINUE THE FAMILY LINEAGE.

IF ALL THAT IS THERE, THEN WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A IF ALL THAT IS THERE, THEN WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A GIRL CHILD?

WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A GIRL CHILD?

AND ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, YOU GIRL CHILD?

AND ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE TO PAY A DOWRY.

AND ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE TO PAY A DOWRY.

>> THIS WOMAN HAS STUDIED THE HAVE TO PAY A DOWRY.

>> THIS WOMAN HAS STUDIED THE DOWRY SYSTEM, WHICH SHE SAID IS >> THIS WOMAN HAS STUDIED THE DOWRY SYSTEM, WHICH SHE SAID IS MISTAKENLY BELIEVED TO HAVE DOWRY SYSTEM, WHICH SHE SAID IS MISTAKENLY BELIEVED TO HAVE ROOTS IN HINDU SCRIPTURE.

MISTAKENLY BELIEVED TO HAVE ROOTS IN HINDU SCRIPTURE.

>> THIS IS NEVER A PRACTICE ROOTS IN HINDU SCRIPTURE.

>> THIS IS NEVER A PRACTICE ANYWHERE PRESCRIBED.

>> THIS IS NEVER A PRACTICE ANYWHERE PRESCRIBED.

IT SAID WHERE THE PRINCESS GOES ANYWHERE PRESCRIBED.

IT SAID WHERE THE PRINCESS GOES SHE MUST CARRY A NUMBER OF IT SAID WHERE THE PRINCESS GOES SHE MUST CARRY A NUMBER OF HORSES BECAUSE SHE'S USED TO SHE MUST CARRY A NUMBER OF HORSES BECAUSE SHE'S USED TO CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORT.

HORSES BECAUSE SHE'S USED TO CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORT.

AND SO IT IS, IT IS THE DUTY OF CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORT.

AND SO IT IS, IT IS THE DUTY OF THE KING, TO SHOW THE DAUGHTER AND SO IT IS, IT IS THE DUTY OF THE KING, TO SHOW THE DAUGHTER YOU KNOW, GIVEN.

THE KING, TO SHOW THE DAUGHTER YOU KNOW, GIVEN.

AND THAT GETS DISTORTED NOW EVEN YOU KNOW, GIVEN.

AND THAT GETS DISTORTED NOW EVEN THE POOREST OF THE POOR, WHO AND THAT GETS DISTORTED NOW EVEN THE POOREST OF THE POOR, WHO CAN'T AFFORD A SQUARE MEAL ADAY, THE POOREST OF THE POOR, WHO CAN'T AFFORD A SQUARE MEAL ADAY, WILL HAVE TO BUY THINGS FOR THE CAN'T AFFORD A SQUARE MEAL ADAY, WILL HAVE TO BUY THINGS FOR THE WEDDING OF THE DAUGHTER.

WILL HAVE TO BUY THINGS FOR THE WEDDING OF THE DAUGHTER.

>> DOWRIES WERE OUTLAWED HALF A WEDDING OF THE DAUGHTER.

>> DOWRIES WERE OUTLAWED HALF A CENTURY AGO, BUT THE SYSTEM >> DOWRIES WERE OUTLAWED HALF A CENTURY AGO, BUT THE SYSTEM REMAINS PERVASIVE AND ADDS A CENTURY AGO, BUT THE SYSTEM REMAINS PERVASIVE AND ADDS A HUGE COMMERCIAL DIMENSION TO REMAINS PERVASIVE AND ADDS A HUGE COMMERCIAL DIMENSION TO MARRIAGE IN INDIA.

HUGE COMMERCIAL DIMENSION TO MARRIAGE IN INDIA.

WITH RISING ASPIRATIONS IN A MARRIAGE IN INDIA.

WITH RISING ASPIRATIONS IN A RAPIDLY-GROWING ECONOMY, WITH RISING ASPIRATIONS IN A RAPIDLY-GROWING ECONOMY, SOCIALOLOGISTS SAYS IT'S BECOME RAPIDLY-GROWING ECONOMY, SOCIALOLOGISTS SAYS IT'S BECOME A POLITICAL LIABILITY.

SOCIALOLOGISTS SAYS IT'S BECOME A POLITICAL LIABILITY.

>> THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A POLITICAL LIABILITY.

>> THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY DOWRIES, THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE >> THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY DOWRIES, THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE DOWRIES, THEY WANT TO GIVE MORE DOWRIES, THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE DOWRIES, THEY WANT TO GIVE MORE EDUCATION TO THE BOYS.

DOWRIES, THEY WANT TO GIVE MORE EDUCATION TO THE BOYS.

>> INDIA'S CENSUS BEARS THAT EDUCATION TO THE BOYS.

>> INDIA'S CENSUS BEARS THAT OUT.

>> INDIA'S CENSUS BEARS THAT OUT.

FOR EVERY 1,000 MALE BABIES OUT.

FOR EVERY 1,000 MALE BABIES BORN, THERE ARE JUST 914 FOR EVERY 1,000 MALE BABIES BORN, THERE ARE JUST 914 FEMALES.

BORN, THERE ARE JUST 914 FEMALES.

FAR FEWER IN SOME REGIONS.

FEMALES.

FAR FEWER IN SOME REGIONS.

IN NATURE, THE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT FAR FEWER IN SOME REGIONS.

IN NATURE, THE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT EQUAL.

IN NATURE, THE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT EQUAL.

THE GAP BEGAN TO WIDEN IN THE EQUAL.

THE GAP BEGAN TO WIDEN IN THE 1990s, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE GAP BEGAN TO WIDEN IN THE 1990s, WITH THE ADVENT OF ULTRASOUND.

1990s, WITH THE ADVENT OF ULTRASOUND.

ALLOWING EARLY DETECTION OF A ULTRASOUND.

ALLOWING EARLY DETECTION OF A FETUS'S SEX.

ALLOWING EARLY DETECTION OF A FETUS'S SEX.

THAT'S BEEN BLAMED FOR THE FETUS'S SEX.

THAT'S BEEN BLAMED FOR THE WIDESPREAD ABORTION OF FEMALE THAT'S BEEN BLAMED FOR THE WIDESPREAD ABORTION OF FEMALE FETUSES.

WIDESPREAD ABORTION OF FEMALE FETUSES.

ABORTION IS LEGAL IN INDIA, BUT FETUSES.

ABORTION IS LEGAL IN INDIA, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL WHEN DONE FOR SEX ABORTION IS LEGAL IN INDIA, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL WHEN DONE FOR SEX SELECTION.

IT'S ILLEGAL WHEN DONE FOR SEX SELECTION.

HOWEVER, CRACKING THE INTENT IS SELECTION.

HOWEVER, CRACKING THE INTENT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

HOWEVER, CRACKING THE INTENT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

AS GYNECOLOGISTS ADMITTED WITH ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

AS GYNECOLOGISTS ADMITTED WITH STARTLING CANDOR IN A STORY I AS GYNECOLOGISTS ADMITTED WITH STARTLING CANDOR IN A STORY I REPORTED IN 2001, HE DOES THEM STARTLING CANDOR IN A STORY I REPORTED IN 2001, HE DOES THEM ROUTINELY.

REPORTED IN 2001, HE DOES THEM ROUTINELY.

>> YOU FREELY ADMIT THAT YOU DO ROUTINELY.

>> YOU FREELY ADMIT THAT YOU DO BASICALLY CONTRAVENEED LAW?

>> YOU FREELY ADMIT THAT YOU DO BASICALLY CONTRAVENEED LAW?

>> YES, MOST OF US DO.

BASICALLY CONTRAVENEED LAW?

>> YES, MOST OF US DO.

>> DO YOU FACE ANY LEGAL -- >> YES, MOST OF US DO.

>> DO YOU FACE ANY LEGAL -- >> THERE'S NO LEGAL SANCTION, >> DO YOU FACE ANY LEGAL -- >> THERE'S NO LEGAL SANCTION, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ON >> THERE'S NO LEGAL SANCTION, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ON PAPER.

BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ON PAPER.

WHO CAN ASK YOU?

PAPER.

WHO CAN ASK YOU?

>> THE LOPSIDED SEX RADIO HAS WHO CAN ASK YOU?

>> THE LOPSIDED SEX RADIO HAS SPREAD IN RECENT YEARS, TWO >> THE LOPSIDED SEX RADIO HAS SPREAD IN RECENT YEARS, TWO DECADES AGO IT WAS MAINLY IN THE SPREAD IN RECENT YEARS, TWO DECADES AGO IT WAS MAINLY IN THE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE MANY DECADES AGO IT WAS MAINLY IN THE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE MANY FAMILIES WERE ENTERING THE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE MANY FAMILIES WERE ENTERING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THANKS TO INDIA'S FAMILIES WERE ENTERING THE MIDDLE CLASS, THANKS TO INDIA'S GREEN REVOLUTION.

MIDDLE CLASS, THANKS TO INDIA'S GREEN REVOLUTION.

NOW CALLER SAYS IT'S IN AREAS GREEN REVOLUTION.

NOW CALLER SAYS IT'S IN AREAS WHERE A NEW MIDDLE CLASS IS NOW CALLER SAYS IT'S IN AREAS WHERE A NEW MIDDLE CLASS IS EMERGING.

WHERE A NEW MIDDLE CLASS IS EMERGING.

>> PLACES LIKE BEHAR, ARE EMERGING.

>> PLACES LIKE BEHAR, ARE BECOMING MORE PROSPEROUS THERE >> PLACES LIKE BEHAR, ARE BECOMING MORE PROSPEROUS THERE WILL BE A GREATER AVAILABILITY BECOMING MORE PROSPEROUS THERE WILL BE A GREATER AVAILABILITY OF TECHNOLOGY AND MORE INCOMES WILL BE A GREATER AVAILABILITY OF TECHNOLOGY AND MORE INCOMES IN THE HANDS OF FAMILIES.

OF TECHNOLOGY AND MORE INCOMES IN THE HANDS OF FAMILIES.

THEY WILL TEND TO SHAPE THE IN THE HANDS OF FAMILIES.

THEY WILL TEND TO SHAPE THE FAMILY AND SEX-SELECT.

THEY WILL TEND TO SHAPE THE FAMILY AND SEX-SELECT.

>> AS THESE AREAS BECOME MORE FAMILY AND SEX-SELECT.

>> AS THESE AREAS BECOME MORE AFFLUENT, FERTILITY RATES, THE >> AS THESE AREAS BECOME MORE AFFLUENT, FERTILITY RATES, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN BORN PER AFFLUENT, FERTILITY RATES, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN BORN PER WOMAN ARE DECLINING.

NUMBER OF CHILDREN BORN PER WOMAN ARE DECLINING.

THAT'S WELCOMED BY PEOPLE WOMAN ARE DECLINING.

THAT'S WELCOMED BY PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT POPULATION THAT'S WELCOMED BY PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT POPULATION GROWTH.

CONCERNED ABOUT POPULATION GROWTH.

THESE ARE SOME OF INDIA'S MOST GROWTH.

THESE ARE SOME OF INDIA'S MOST DENSELY POPULATED REGIONS.

THESE ARE SOME OF INDIA'S MOST DENSELY POPULATED REGIONS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GENDER DENSELY POPULATED REGIONS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GENDER BALANCE, IT'S NOT GOOD NEWS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GENDER BALANCE, IT'S NOT GOOD NEWS.

>> WHEN YOU WANT A SMALLER BALANCE, IT'S NOT GOOD NEWS.

>> WHEN YOU WANT A SMALLER FAMILY, THE SQUEEZE IS ON THE >> WHEN YOU WANT A SMALLER FAMILY, THE SQUEEZE IS ON THE GIRLS, BECAUSE SUPPOSE YOU ARE FAMILY, THE SQUEEZE IS ON THE GIRLS, BECAUSE SUPPOSE YOU ARE MOVING FROM A FERTILITY OF FOUR GIRLS, BECAUSE SUPPOSE YOU ARE MOVING FROM A FERTILITY OF FOUR TO THREE.

MOVING FROM A FERTILITY OF FOUR TO THREE.

THEN YOU WANT TWO BOYS AND ONE TO THREE.

THEN YOU WANT TWO BOYS AND ONE GIRL.

THEN YOU WANT TWO BOYS AND ONE GIRL.

SO IF A LOT OF FAMILIES IN GIRL.

SO IF A LOT OF FAMILIES IN POPULAR STATES WANT TWO BOYS AND SO IF A LOT OF FAMILIES IN POPULAR STATES WANT TWO BOYS AND ONE GIRL, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S POPULAR STATES WANT TWO BOYS AND ONE GIRL, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EXCESS OF ONE GIRL, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT EXCESS OF BOYS.

GOING TO BE A GREAT EXCESS OF BOYS.

>> SHE SAYS THE SOCIAL BOYS.

>> SHE SAYS THE SOCIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC >> SHE SAYS THE SOCIAL CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT ARE ALREADY VISIBLE IN CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFT ARE ALREADY VISIBLE IN THOSE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE SHIFT ARE ALREADY VISIBLE IN THOSE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE THERE'S A GROWING SHORTAGE OF THOSE NORTHERN FARM STATES WHERE THERE'S A GROWING SHORTAGE OF BRIDES.

THERE'S A GROWING SHORTAGE OF BRIDES.

>> AS A RESULT, MEN IN THESE BRIDES.

>> AS A RESULT, MEN IN THESE STATES HAVE BEEN IMPORTING >> AS A RESULT, MEN IN THESE STATES HAVE BEEN IMPORTING BRIDES FROM LET'S SAY THE EAST STATES HAVE BEEN IMPORTING BRIDES FROM LET'S SAY THE EAST OF INDIA, THE SOUTH OF INDIA.

BRIDES FROM LET'S SAY THE EAST OF INDIA, THE SOUTH OF INDIA.

SORT OF GOING SHOPPING FOR OF INDIA, THE SOUTH OF INDIA.

SORT OF GOING SHOPPING FOR BRIDES WHEREVER THEY CAN.

SORT OF GOING SHOPPING FOR BRIDES WHEREVER THEY CAN.

AND MANY PEOPLE CALL IT BRIDE BRIDES WHEREVER THEY CAN.

AND MANY PEOPLE CALL IT BRIDE TRAFFICKING.

AND MANY PEOPLE CALL IT BRIDE TRAFFICKING.

>> THESE MARRIAGES ACROSS TRAFFICKING.

>> THESE MARRIAGES ACROSS INDIA'S DIVERSE CULTURAL >> THESE MARRIAGES ACROSS INDIA'S DIVERSE CULTURAL LANDSCAPES CAN BE FRAUGHT WITH INDIA'S DIVERSE CULTURAL LANDSCAPES CAN BE FRAUGHT WITH SOCIAL COMPLICATIONS.

LANDSCAPES CAN BE FRAUGHT WITH SOCIAL COMPLICATIONS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE SEES AN SOCIAL COMPLICATIONS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE SEES AN EVER SO SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE SEES AN EVER SO SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN THE GENDER RATIO IN THOSE STATES EVER SO SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN THE GENDER RATIO IN THOSE STATES THAT SAW EARLY PROSPERITY.

THE GENDER RATIO IN THOSE STATES THAT SAW EARLY PROSPERITY.

>> ONCE PEOPLE REACH THE HIGHER THAT SAW EARLY PROSPERITY.

>> ONCE PEOPLE REACH THE HIGHER RUNGS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH >> ONCE PEOPLE REACH THE HIGHER RUNGS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH I CALL THE STABLE MIDDLE CLASS, RUNGS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH I CALL THE STABLE MIDDLE CLASS, THEY DON'T SEX-SELECT.

I CALL THE STABLE MIDDLE CLASS, THEY DON'T SEX-SELECT.

THEN THEY TEND TO VIEW GIRLS AND THEY DON'T SEX-SELECT.

THEN THEY TEND TO VIEW GIRLS AND BOYS AS BEING OF EQUAL VALUE.

THEN THEY TEND TO VIEW GIRLS AND BOYS AS BEING OF EQUAL VALUE.

SO THEY DON'T REALLY CARE BOYS AS BEING OF EQUAL VALUE.

SO THEY DON'T REALLY CARE WHETHER THEY HAVE TWO GIRLS OR SO THEY DON'T REALLY CARE WHETHER THEY HAVE TWO GIRLS OR WHETHER THEY HAVE ONE GIRL, ONE WHETHER THEY HAVE TWO GIRLS OR WHETHER THEY HAVE ONE GIRL, ONE BOY, ET CETERA.

WHETHER THEY HAVE ONE GIRL, ONE BOY, ET CETERA.

>> BUT FOR MANY YEARS, INDIA BOY, ET CETERA.

>> BUT FOR MANY YEARS, INDIA WILL PRESENT A PATCHWORK OF >> BUT FOR MANY YEARS, INDIA WILL PRESENT A PATCHWORK OF PROGRESS, A WORSENING GENDER WILL PRESENT A PATCHWORK OF PROGRESS, A WORSENING GENDER BALANCE IN MANY PLACES, SLIGHT PROGRESS, A WORSENING GENDER BALANCE IN MANY PLACES, SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN SOME.

BALANCE IN MANY PLACES, SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT IN SOME.

THE CENTER FOR SOCIAL RESEARCH'S IMPROVEMENT IN SOME.

THE CENTER FOR SOCIAL RESEARCH'S KUMARI SEES ONE MORE POSITIVE THE CENTER FOR SOCIAL RESEARCH'S KUMARI SEES ONE MORE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A KUMARI SEES ONE MORE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF INDIA'S GROWING DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF INDIA'S GROWING AND URBANIZING MIDDLE CLASS.

CONSEQUENCE OF INDIA'S GROWING AND URBANIZING MIDDLE CLASS.

MORE GIRLS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.

AND URBANIZING MIDDLE CLASS.

MORE GIRLS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.

>> AS I SAID, INDIA IS FULL OF MORE GIRLS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.

>> AS I SAID, INDIA IS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, ON THE ONE SIDE >> AS I SAID, INDIA IS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, ON THE ONE SIDE YOU SEE WOMEN IN THE VILLAGES, CONTRADICTIONS, ON THE ONE SIDE YOU SEE WOMEN IN THE VILLAGES, STILL VERY DISEMPOWERED.

YOU SEE WOMEN IN THE VILLAGES, STILL VERY DISEMPOWERED.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S A STILL VERY DISEMPOWERED.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S A BRIGHTER PICTURE, WHERE WE HAVE BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S A BRIGHTER PICTURE, WHERE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMB OF DOCTORS, BRIGHTER PICTURE, WHERE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMB OF DOCTORS, LAWYERS, PROFESSIONALS, THE A LARGE NUMB OF DOCTORS, LAWYERS, PROFESSIONALS, THE EDUCATION LEVEL IS GOING UP FOR LAWYERS, PROFESSIONALS, THE EDUCATION LEVEL IS GOING UP FOR GIRLS.

EDUCATION LEVEL IS GOING UP FOR GIRLS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW GIRLS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW ECONOMY, GIRLS HAVE GOT A LOT OF WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEW ECONOMY, GIRLS HAVE GOT A LOT OF NEW OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW.

ECONOMY, GIRLS HAVE GOT A LOT OF NEW OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW.

MEDIA, I.T.

INDUSTRY.

NEW OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW.

MEDIA, I.T.

INDUSTRY.

BANKING AND ENTERTAINMENT.

MEDIA, I.T.

INDUSTRY.

BANKING AND ENTERTAINMENT.

WHICHEVER SECTOR YOU SEE, WOMEN BANKING AND ENTERTAINMENT.

WHICHEVER SECTOR YOU SEE, WOMEN ARE FILLING THE RANKS IN A VERY WHICHEVER SECTOR YOU SEE, WOMEN ARE FILLING THE RANKS IN A VERY MAJOR WAY.

ARE FILLING THE RANKS IN A VERY MAJOR WAY.

>> COUNSELING CENTER CLIENT PUJA MAJOR WAY.

>> COUNSELING CENTER CLIENT PUJA NEVER SET FOOT IN A SCHOOL BUT >> COUNSELING CENTER CLIENT PUJA NEVER SET FOOT IN A SCHOOL BUT SHE WANTS AN EDUCATION FOR HER NEVER SET FOOT IN A SCHOOL BUT SHE WANTS AN EDUCATION FOR HER DAUGHTERS AND THAT'S WHY SHE SHE WANTS AN EDUCATION FOR HER DAUGHTERS AND THAT'S WHY SHE SAYS SHE NEEDS HER HUSBAND'S DAUGHTERS AND THAT'S WHY SHE SAYS SHE NEEDS HER HUSBAND'S HELP TO PROVIDE IT.

SAYS SHE NEEDS HER HUSBAND'S HELP TO PROVIDE IT.

>> Translator: WOMEN ARE HELP TO PROVIDE IT.

>> Translator: WOMEN ARE PROGRESSING MORE IN SOCIETY AND >> Translator: WOMEN ARE PROGRESSING MORE IN SOCIETY AND I NEED THE SUPPORT OF THEIR PROGRESSING MORE IN SOCIETY AND I NEED THE SUPPORT OF THEIR FATHER SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP I NEED THE SUPPORT OF THEIR FATHER SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP IN A PROPER FAMILY.

FATHER SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP IN A PROPER FAMILY.

SO THAT THEY CAN GET A GOOD IN A PROPER FAMILY.

SO THAT THEY CAN GET A GOOD EDUCATION, SO THAT THEY CAN GROW SO THAT THEY CAN GET A GOOD EDUCATION, SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP AND HAVE GOOD MARRIAGES.

EDUCATION, SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP AND HAVE GOOD MARRIAGES.

>> SHE'LL HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE, UP AND HAVE GOOD MARRIAGES.

>> SHE'LL HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE, SOCIALLY IF NOT LEGALLY TO >> SHE'LL HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE, SOCIALLY IF NOT LEGALLY TO PROVIDE HER DAUGHTERS WITH THE SOCIALLY IF NOT LEGALLY TO PROVIDE HER DAUGHTERS WITH THE FAMILY STRUCTURE SHE CALLS PROVIDE HER DAUGHTERS WITH THE FAMILY STRUCTURE SHE CALLS IDEAL.

FAMILY STRUCTURE SHE CALLS IDEAL.

BUT SHE SAYS, THE BEST DOWRY HER IDEAL.

BUT SHE SAYS, THE BEST DOWRY HER DAUGHTERS COULD HAVE, IS AN BUT SHE SAYS, THE BEST DOWRY HER DAUGHTERS COULD HAVE, IS AN EDUCATION.

DAUGHTERS COULD HAVE, IS AN EDUCATION.

FOR RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS EDUCATION.

FOR RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS WEEKLY, THIS IS FRED FOR RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS WEEKLY, THIS IS FRED DESAM LASARO, IN NEW DELHI.

WEEKLY, THIS IS FRED DESAM LASARO, IN NEW DELHI.

>>> NOW, A CONVERSATION WITH JIM DESAM LASARO, IN NEW DELHI.

>>> NOW, A CONVERSATION WITH JIM WALLACE, ABOUT HIS NEW BOOK, >>> NOW, A CONVERSATION WITH JIM WALLACE, ABOUT HIS NEW BOOK, IT'S CALLED "ON GOD'S SIDE."

WALLACE, ABOUT HIS NEW BOOK, IT'S CALLED "ON GOD'S SIDE."

AND IT'S AN APPEAL TO OVERCOME IT'S CALLED "ON GOD'S SIDE."

AND IT'S AN APPEAL TO OVERCOME THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY AND IT'S AN APPEAL TO OVERCOME THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY SERVING THE COMMON GOOD.

THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS BY SERVING THE COMMON GOOD.

WALLACE IS A RELIGIOUS ACTIVIST, SERVING THE COMMON GOOD.

WALLACE IS A RELIGIOUS ACTIVIST, PREACHER AND EDITOR OF WALLACE IS A RELIGIOUS ACTIVIST, PREACHER AND EDITOR OF "SOJOURNER'S MAGAZINE."

PREACHER AND EDITOR OF "SOJOURNER'S MAGAZINE."

HE JOINS US FROM NEW YORK AND "SOJOURNER'S MAGAZINE."

HE JOINS US FROM NEW YORK AND OUR MANAGING EDITOR, KIM LAWTON HE JOINS US FROM NEW YORK AND OUR MANAGING EDITOR, KIM LAWTON IS WITH ME IN THE STUDIO.

OUR MANAGING EDITOR, KIM LAWTON IS WITH ME IN THE STUDIO.

JIM, WELCOME.

IS WITH ME IN THE STUDIO.

JIM, WELCOME.

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF THE JIM, WELCOME.

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF THE COMMON GOOD?

WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF THE COMMON GOOD?

>> YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME COMMON GOOD?

>> YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME WHAT THE COMMON GOOD IS AND WHAT >> YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME WHAT THE COMMON GOOD IS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ON GOD'S SIDE.

WHAT THE COMMON GOOD IS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ON GOD'S SIDE.

AND NEITHER HAS CERTAIN ANSWERS, IT MEANS TO BE ON GOD'S SIDE.

AND NEITHER HAS CERTAIN ANSWERS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE THE RIGHT AND NEITHER HAS CERTAIN ANSWERS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

LET ME GIVE YOU MY FAVORITE FROM QUESTIONS.

LET ME GIVE YOU MY FAVORITE FROM THE BOOK, THIS IS FROM CATHOLIC LET ME GIVE YOU MY FAVORITE FROM THE BOOK, THIS IS FROM CATHOLIC SOCIAL TEACHING.

THE BOOK, THIS IS FROM CATHOLIC SOCIAL TEACHING.

I'LL READ IT RIGHT FROM THEM.

SOCIAL TEACHING.

I'LL READ IT RIGHT FROM THEM.

THE COMMON GOOD IS THE WHOLE I'LL READ IT RIGHT FROM THEM.

THE COMMON GOOD IS THE WHOLE NETWORK OF SOCIAL CONDITIONS, THE COMMON GOOD IS THE WHOLE NETWORK OF SOCIAL CONDITIONS, WHICH ENABLE HUMANS AND GROUPS NETWORK OF SOCIAL CONDITIONS, WHICH ENABLE HUMANS AND GROUPS TO FLOURISH.

WHICH ENABLE HUMANS AND GROUPS TO FLOURISH.

ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL.

TO FLOURISH.

ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL.

SO TAKING A SABBATICAL TO WRITE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL.

SO TAKING A SABBATICAL TO WRITE THIS BOOK AND WATCHING THE NEWS SO TAKING A SABBATICAL TO WRITE THIS BOOK AND WATCHING THE NEWS AT NIGHT.

THIS BOOK AND WATCHING THE NEWS AT NIGHT.

AND SAW WE HAD FORGOTTEN THIS AT NIGHT.

AND SAW WE HAD FORGOTTEN THIS IDEA OF THE COMMON GOOD.

AND SAW WE HAD FORGOTTEN THIS IDEA OF THE COMMON GOOD.

>> JIM, WHO SAYS WHAT THE COMMON IDEA OF THE COMMON GOOD.

>> JIM, WHO SAYS WHAT THE COMMON GOOD IS?

>> JIM, WHO SAYS WHAT THE COMMON GOOD IS?

>> THE COMMON GOOD IS FOUND IN GOOD IS?

>> THE COMMON GOOD IS FOUND IN ALL OF OUR FAITH TRADITIONS, >> THE COMMON GOOD IS FOUND IN ALL OF OUR FAITH TRADITIONS, LIKE THE CATHOLICS, THE BLACK ALL OF OUR FAITH TRADITIONS, LIKE THE CATHOLICS, THE BLACK CHURCHES, I FOUND IT BACK TO LIKE THE CATHOLICS, THE BLACK CHURCHES, I FOUND IT BACK TO JOHN IN THE FOURTH CENTURY.

CHURCHES, I FOUND IT BACK TO JOHN IN THE FOURTH CENTURY.

IT'S DEEPLY IN ALL OUR JOHN IN THE FOURTH CENTURY.

IT'S DEEPLY IN ALL OUR TRADITIONS AND THE MORAL IT'S DEEPLY IN ALL OUR TRADITIONS AND THE MORAL FOUNDATION OF IT IS TO LOVE YOUR TRADITIONS AND THE MORAL FOUNDATION OF IT IS TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

FOUNDATION OF IT IS TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

IN SECULAR DEMOCRATIC TRADITIONS NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

IN SECULAR DEMOCRATIC TRADITIONS IT'S ALSO THERE IN THE GOLDEN IN SECULAR DEMOCRATIC TRADITIONS IT'S ALSO THERE IN THE GOLDEN RULE.

IT'S ALSO THERE IN THE GOLDEN RULE.

TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO RULE.

TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.

TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.

IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF BE TREATED.

IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF HOW YOU TREAT YOUR NEIGHBOR AND IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF HOW YOU TREAT YOUR NEIGHBOR AND WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.

HOW YOU TREAT YOUR NEIGHBOR AND WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.

>> JIM, ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS.

>> JIM, ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, IS THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL >> JIM, ONE THING I'VE NOTICED, IS THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF IS THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF REACHING THE COMMON GOOD.

SAY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF REACHING THE COMMON GOOD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN SOME OF THE REACHING THE COMMON GOOD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN SOME OF THE BUDGET DEBATES THAT I KNOW YOU SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN SOME OF THE BUDGET DEBATES THAT I KNOW YOU WERE INVOLVED IN, YOU HAVE SOME BUDGET DEBATES THAT I KNOW YOU WERE INVOLVED IN, YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE SAYING THE COMMON GOOD IS WERE INVOLVED IN, YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE SAYING THE COMMON GOOD IS SERVED THIS WAY AND OTHER PEOPLE PEOPLE SAYING THE COMMON GOOD IS SERVED THIS WAY AND OTHER PEOPLE STILL USING THAT LANGUAGE, BUT SERVED THIS WAY AND OTHER PEOPLE STILL USING THAT LANGUAGE, BUT COMING UP WITH A VERY DIFFERENT STILL USING THAT LANGUAGE, BUT COMING UP WITH A VERY DIFFERENT POLICY POSITION.

COMING UP WITH A VERY DIFFERENT POLICY POSITION.

HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT?

POLICY POSITION.

HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT?

>> MIKE PERSON, A "WASHINGTON HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT?

>> MIKE PERSON, A "WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST, WHO WAS A >> MIKE PERSON, A "WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST, WHO WAS A GEORGE BUSH SPEECHWRITER HAS A POST" COLUMNIST, WHO WAS A GEORGE BUSH SPEECHWRITER HAS A COMMENT ON THE BOOK HE SAYS, JIM GEORGE BUSH SPEECHWRITER HAS A COMMENT ON THE BOOK HE SAYS, JIM AND I MIGHT DISAGREE ON SOME COMMENT ON THE BOOK HE SAYS, JIM AND I MIGHT DISAGREE ON SOME POLICY DECISIONS, BUT HIS CALL AND I MIGHT DISAGREE ON SOME POLICY DECISIONS, BUT HIS CALL FOR AN ACTIVE CONSIDERATION OF POLICY DECISIONS, BUT HIS CALL FOR AN ACTIVE CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMON GOOD IS MORE TIMELY FOR AN ACTIVE CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMON GOOD IS MORE TIMELY AND URGENT THAN EVER.

THE COMMON GOOD IS MORE TIMELY AND URGENT THAN EVER.

I'M SAYING LET'S HAVE THAT AND URGENT THAN EVER.

I'M SAYING LET'S HAVE THAT DEBATE.

I'M SAYING LET'S HAVE THAT DEBATE.

ON THE PRINCIPLE, THE BUDGET DEBATE.

ON THE PRINCIPLE, THE BUDGET THAT YOU RAISE, THE PRINCIPLE ON THE PRINCIPLE, THE BUDGET THAT YOU RAISE, THE PRINCIPLE FROM ALL OUR TRADITIONS IS YOU THAT YOU RAISE, THE PRINCIPLE FROM ALL OUR TRADITIONS IS YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE POOR AND FROM ALL OUR TRADITIONS IS YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE POOR AND VULNERABLE.

HAVE TO PROTECT THE POOR AND VULNERABLE.

YOU CAN'T REDUCE A DEFICIT BY VULNERABLE.

YOU CAN'T REDUCE A DEFICIT BY INCREASING POVERTY.

YOU CAN'T REDUCE A DEFICIT BY INCREASING POVERTY.

PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES COULD MAKE INCREASING POVERTY.

PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES COULD MAKE THAT PLEDGE.

PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES COULD MAKE THAT PLEDGE.

AND THEN WE COULD FIND A WAY TO THAT PLEDGE.

AND THEN WE COULD FIND A WAY TO REFORM THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND AND THEN WE COULD FIND A WAY TO REFORM THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECRETARIOR IN WAYS THAT REFORM THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECRETARIOR IN WAYS THAT PROTECT THE POOR AND VULNERABLE.

PRIVATE SECRETARIOR IN WAYS THAT PROTECT THE POOR AND VULNERABLE.

>> JIM, WITHIN MANY OF THE PROTECT THE POOR AND VULNERABLE.

>> JIM, WITHIN MANY OF THE CHURCHES, THERE HAS BEEN A KIND >> JIM, WITHIN MANY OF THE CHURCHES, THERE HAS BEEN A KIND OF A SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE WHO CHURCHES, THERE HAS BEEN A KIND OF A SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE WHO EMPHASIZE SALVATION, AND ON THE OF A SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE WHO EMPHASIZE SALVATION, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THOSE WHO EMPHASIZE EMPHASIZE SALVATION, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THOSE WHO EMPHASIZE TRYING TO BUILD THE KINGDOM ON OTHER HAND, THOSE WHO EMPHASIZE TRYING TO BUILD THE KINGDOM ON EARTH NOW.

TRYING TO BUILD THE KINGDOM ON EARTH NOW.

WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS?

EARTH NOW.

WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS?

ON BOTH SIDES?

WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS?

ON BOTH SIDES?

>> I'M AN EVANGELICAL.

ON BOTH SIDES?

>> I'M AN EVANGELICAL.

IT MEANS I WANT TO TAKE WHAT THE >> I'M AN EVANGELICAL.

IT MEANS I WANT TO TAKE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS SERIOUSLY.

IT MEANS I WANT TO TAKE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS SERIOUSLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY BIBLE SAYS SERIOUSLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY CHAPTERS OF MATTHEW.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EARLY CHAPTERS OF MATTHEW.

YOU SEE A KINGDOM BREAKING IN CHAPTERS OF MATTHEW.

YOU SEE A KINGDOM BREAKING IN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE YOU SEE A KINGDOM BREAKING IN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE WORLD AND US WITH IT.

THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE WORLD AND US WITH IT.

IN THE BOOK I'VE GOT A LONG WORLD AND US WITH IT.

IN THE BOOK I'VE GOT A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR IN THE BOOK I'VE GOT A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR QUESTION.

CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR QUESTION.

IT'S THE KIND OF JESUS WE QUESTION.

IT'S THE KIND OF JESUS WE BELIEVE IN.

IT'S THE KIND OF JESUS WE BELIEVE IN.

WILL DETERMINE THE KIND OF BELIEVE IN.

WILL DETERMINE THE KIND OF CHRISTIANS WE'RE GOING TO BE.

WILL DETERMINE THE KIND OF CHRISTIANS WE'RE GOING TO BE.

SO I'M CRITICAL OF WHAT I CALL CHRISTIANS WE'RE GOING TO BE.

SO I'M CRITICAL OF WHAT I CALL THE ATONEMENT ONLY GOSPEL.

SO I'M CRITICAL OF WHAT I CALL THE ATONEMENT ONLY GOSPEL.

WHERE THERE'S NO KINGDOM.

THE ATONEMENT ONLY GOSPEL.

WHERE THERE'S NO KINGDOM.

THERE'S NO TEACHING, THERE'S NO WHERE THERE'S NO KINGDOM.

THERE'S NO TEACHING, THERE'S NO CHANGE OF ANYTHING BUT THERE'S NO TEACHING, THERE'S NO CHANGE OF ANYTHING BUT OURSELVES, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CHANGE OF ANYTHING BUT OURSELVES, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TEACH.

OURSELVES, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TEACH.

BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY IN THE SCRIPTURES TEACH.

BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY IN THE CHURCH I GREW UP IN.

BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY IN THE CHURCH I GREW UP IN.

SO A BALANCE THAT CHANGES CHURCH I GREW UP IN.

SO A BALANCE THAT CHANGES INDIVIDUALS, I WANT TO BE SO A BALANCE THAT CHANGES INDIVIDUALS, I WANT TO BE CHANGED IN MY LIFE.

INDIVIDUALS, I WANT TO BE CHANGED IN MY LIFE.

BUT ALSO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CHANGED IN MY LIFE.

BUT ALSO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE WORLD.

BUT ALSO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE THE WORLD.

JESUS CAME AND CHANGED THE WORLD CHANGE THE WORLD.

JESUS CAME AND CHANGED THE WORLD AND US WITH IT.

JESUS CAME AND CHANGED THE WORLD AND US WITH IT.

>> JIM, ALONG THOSE LINES, IN AND US WITH IT.

>> JIM, ALONG THOSE LINES, IN YOUR BOOK YOU DO TALK A LOT >> JIM, ALONG THOSE LINES, IN YOUR BOOK YOU DO TALK A LOT ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD IS SERVED, YOUR BOOK YOU DO TALK A LOT ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD IS SERVED, NOT JUST THROUGH POLICIES AND ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD IS SERVED, NOT JUST THROUGH POLICIES AND POLITICS, BUT ALSO AN INDIVIDUAL NOT JUST THROUGH POLICIES AND POLITICS, BUT ALSO AN INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS PEOPLE MAKE IN THEIR POLITICS, BUT ALSO AN INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS PEOPLE MAKE IN THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR LIVES, HOW DOES DECISIONS PEOPLE MAKE IN THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR LIVES, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES HOW I LIVE MY FAMILIES, THEIR LIVES, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES HOW I LIVE MY LIFE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE AFFECT THAT, HOW DOES HOW I LIVE MY LIFE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE AFFECT THE COMMON GOOD?

LIFE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE AFFECT THE COMMON GOOD?

>> I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT THE COMMON GOOD?

>> I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.

>> I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I QUESTION.

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I CAN'T CHANGE WASHINGTON OR WALL BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I CAN'T CHANGE WASHINGTON OR WALL STREET.

CAN'T CHANGE WASHINGTON OR WALL STREET.

I'M SAYING THE CHOICES WE MAKE STREET.

I'M SAYING THE CHOICES WE MAKE ABOUT LOU WE TREAT OUR I'M SAYING THE CHOICES WE MAKE ABOUT LOU WE TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS, THOSE AROUND US, ARE ABOUT LOU WE TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS, THOSE AROUND US, ARE POOR NEIGHBORS, THOSE WE MAY NEIGHBORS, THOSE AROUND US, ARE POOR NEIGHBORS, THOSE WE MAY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO, OUR POOR NEIGHBORS, THOSE WE MAY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO, OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, OUR MUSLIM HAVE TO REACH OUT TO, OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, OUR MUSLIM NEIGHBORS, OUR GAY NEIGHBOR, IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, OUR MUSLIM NEIGHBORS, OUR GAY NEIGHBOR, THOSE CHOICES WILL CHANGE THE NEIGHBORS, OUR GAY NEIGHBOR, THOSE CHOICES WILL CHANGE THE CULTURE.

THOSE CHOICES WILL CHANGE THE CULTURE.

WE'RE SEEING THE ONE PLACE CULTURE.

WE'RE SEEING THE ONE PLACE WASHINGTON IS GETTING IT RIGHT WE'RE SEEING THE ONE PLACE WASHINGTON IS GETTING IT RIGHT IS AROUND IMMIGRATION REFORM.

WASHINGTON IS GETTING IT RIGHT IS AROUND IMMIGRATION REFORM.

AND WHY?

IS AROUND IMMIGRATION REFORM.

AND WHY?

BECAUSE FROM THE OUTSIDE YOU'RE AND WHY?

BECAUSE FROM THE OUTSIDE YOU'RE HEARING FAITH COMMUNITIES SAY BECAUSE FROM THE OUTSIDE YOU'RE HEARING FAITH COMMUNITIES SAY THIS FOR US IS A MORAL ISSUE.

HEARING FAITH COMMUNITIES SAY THIS FOR US IS A MORAL ISSUE.

IT'S A GOSPEL ISSUE.

THIS FOR US IS A MORAL ISSUE.

IT'S A GOSPEL ISSUE.

IT'S CHANGING OUR POLITICS, IT'S A GOSPEL ISSUE.

IT'S CHANGING OUR POLITICS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT ALL IT'S CHANGING OUR POLITICS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT ALL WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR I WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT ALL WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR I THINK IS THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR I THINK IS THAT.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THINK IS THAT.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE COMMON GOOD BEING PRACTICED IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE COMMON GOOD BEING PRACTICED OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON.

THE COMMON GOOD BEING PRACTICED OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON.

IT COMES LAST TO WASHINGTON.

OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON.

IT COMES LAST TO WASHINGTON.

>> BUT IS IT A MOVEMENT, JIM, IT COMES LAST TO WASHINGTON.

>> BUT IS IT A MOVEMENT, JIM, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT >> BUT IS IT A MOVEMENT, JIM, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER?

THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER?

A MOVEMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A TOGETHER?

A MOVEMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A NATIONAL LOBBY?

A MOVEMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A NATIONAL LOBBY?

OR IS IT AS KIM WAS TALKING NATIONAL LOBBY?

OR IS IT AS KIM WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT PEOPLE DO IN OUR OWN OR IS IT AS KIM WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT PEOPLE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES?

ABOUT, WHAT PEOPLE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES?

>> NO, IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO IN LIVES?

>> NO, IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES, LIKE WILLIAM >> NO, IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES, LIKE WILLIAM WILBURFORCE, LED THE OUR OWN LIVES, LIKE WILLIAM WILBURFORCE, LED THE ABOLITIONISTS, BUT IT WASN'T THE WILBURFORCE, LED THE ABOLITIONISTS, BUT IT WASN'T THE PARLIAMENTARIANS, IT WAS THE ABOLITIONISTS, BUT IT WASN'T THE PARLIAMENTARIANS, IT WAS THE MOVEMENT THAT SWEPT THE COUNTRY.

PARLIAMENTARIANS, IT WAS THE MOVEMENT THAT SWEPT THE COUNTRY.

I'VE GOT DADS, MOMS, PARENTS, MOVEMENT THAT SWEPT THE COUNTRY.

I'VE GOT DADS, MOMS, PARENTS, AND I'M A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL I'VE GOT DADS, MOMS, PARENTS, AND I'M A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL COACH.

AND I'M A LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL COACH.

THOSE KIND OF LIFE CHOICES ARE COACH.

THOSE KIND OF LIFE CHOICES ARE WHAT BUILD SOCIAL MOVEMENTS AND THOSE KIND OF LIFE CHOICES ARE WHAT BUILD SOCIAL MOVEMENTS AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT EVER WHAT BUILD SOCIAL MOVEMENTS AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT EVER CHANGES POLITICS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT EVER CHANGES POLITICS.

WHAT WE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES IS CHANGES POLITICS.

WHAT WE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES IS WHAT THE BOOK IS ABOUT AND HOW WHAT WE DO IN OUR OWN LIVES IS WHAT THE BOOK IS ABOUT AND HOW THAT CAN CHANGE POLITICS AND WHAT THE BOOK IS ABOUT AND HOW THAT CAN CHANGE POLITICS AND CULTURE AND JUST THE, THE FIRST THAT CAN CHANGE POLITICS AND CULTURE AND JUST THE, THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE BOOK SAYS, OUR CULTURE AND JUST THE, THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE BOOK SAYS, OUR LIFE TOGETHER CAN BE BETTER.

SENTENCE OF THE BOOK SAYS, OUR LIFE TOGETHER CAN BE BETTER.

AND THAT'S THE HUNGER I THINK LIFE TOGETHER CAN BE BETTER.

AND THAT'S THE HUNGER I THINK PEOPLE ARE FEELING NOW.

AND THAT'S THE HUNGER I THINK PEOPLE ARE FEELING NOW.

>> JIM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

PEOPLE ARE FEELING NOW.

>> JIM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME >> JIM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS FOR A LONG TIME.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING OF THESE IDEAS FOR A LONG TIME.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THINGS ARE ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW, THAT THERE'S A MAKES YOU THINK THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW, THAT THERE'S A NEW RECEPTIVITY NOW?

DIFFERENT NOW, THAT THERE'S A NEW RECEPTIVITY NOW?

>> WELL FIRST OF ALL, WATCHING NEW RECEPTIVITY NOW?

>> WELL FIRST OF ALL, WATCHING THE POLITICAL NARRATIVE AT NIGHT >> WELL FIRST OF ALL, WATCHING THE POLITICAL NARRATIVE AT NIGHT AFTER BEING ALL DAY ON THE POLITICAL NARRATIVE AT NIGHT AFTER BEING ALL DAY ON SABBATICAL I TOOK QUIET AND AFTER BEING ALL DAY ON SABBATICAL I TOOK QUIET AND REFLECTION AND STUDY AND SABBATICAL I TOOK QUIET AND REFLECTION AND STUDY AND WRITING, THE MORE I WATCHED IT REFLECTION AND STUDY AND WRITING, THE MORE I WATCHED IT AT NIGHT, I WASN'T ENGAGING IN WRITING, THE MORE I WATCHED IT AT NIGHT, I WASN'T ENGAGING IN IT, THE MORE DEPRESSING IT WAS, AT NIGHT, I WASN'T ENGAGING IN IT, THE MORE DEPRESSING IT WAS, POLARIZED, PARALYZED, HATE, IT, THE MORE DEPRESSING IT WAS, POLARIZED, PARALYZED, HATE, FEAR, ANGER.

POLARIZED, PARALYZED, HATE, FEAR, ANGER.

WE'VE LOST SOMETHING VERY FEAR, ANGER.

WE'VE LOST SOMETHING VERY FUNDAMENTAL.

WE'VE LOST SOMETHING VERY FUNDAMENTAL.

I THINK THIS CAN TAKE US BACK TO FUNDAMENTAL.

I THINK THIS CAN TAKE US BACK TO THIS ANCIENT IDEA THAT CAN BRING I THINK THIS CAN TAKE US BACK TO THIS ANCIENT IDEA THAT CAN BRING US TOGETHER AND FIND COMMON THIS ANCIENT IDEA THAT CAN BRING US TOGETHER AND FIND COMMON GROUND FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

US TOGETHER AND FIND COMMON GROUND FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

AND ESPECIALLY A NEW GENERATION, GROUND FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

AND ESPECIALLY A NEW GENERATION, WANTS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR AND ESPECIALLY A NEW GENERATION, WANTS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

WANTS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

OUR AUDIENCES ARE HALF UNDER 30.

THE COMMON GOOD.

OUR AUDIENCES ARE HALF UNDER 30.

EVERYWHERE I GO.

OUR AUDIENCES ARE HALF UNDER 30.

EVERYWHERE I GO.

AND THEY WANT TO GIVE THEIR EVERYWHERE I GO.

AND THEY WANT TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS AND THAT'S WHAT I AND THEY WANT TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO MAKE A LIVES FOR THIS AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE LONG TERM.

THINK IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE LONG TERM.

>> JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DIFFERENCE LONG TERM.

>> JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE BOOK IS "ON GOD'S SIDE."

>> JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE BOOK IS "ON GOD'S SIDE."

♪ THE BOOK IS "ON GOD'S SIDE."

♪ >> IN OTHER NEWS ON OUR CALENDAR ♪ >> IN OTHER NEWS ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEKEND, APRIL 7th IS >> IN OTHER NEWS ON OUR CALENDAR THIS WEEKEND, APRIL 7th IS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, IT'S THIS WEEKEND, APRIL 7th IS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, IT'S A SOLEMN TRIBUTE TO THE SIX HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, IT'S A SOLEMN TRIBUTE TO THE SIX MILLION JEWS PUT TO DEATH BY THE A SOLEMN TRIBUTE TO THE SIX MILLION JEWS PUT TO DEATH BY THE NAZIS DURING WORLD WAR II.

MILLION JEWS PUT TO DEATH BY THE NAZIS DURING WORLD WAR II.

>> IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO NAZIS DURING WORLD WAR II.

>> IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ABANDONING OUR CELL >> IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ABANDONING OUR CELL PHONES AND COMPUTERS ONE DAY A IMAGINE ABANDONING OUR CELL PHONES AND COMPUTERS ONE DAY A WEEK, OR DECIDING NOT TO RUN PHONES AND COMPUTERS ONE DAY A WEEK, OR DECIDING NOT TO RUN ERRANDS OR DO ANYTHING THAT WEEK, OR DECIDING NOT TO RUN ERRANDS OR DO ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES WORK, BUT FOR A FAMILY ERRANDS OR DO ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES WORK, BUT FOR A FAMILY IN A SUBURB OF WASHINGTON, RESEMBLES WORK, BUT FOR A FAMILY IN A SUBURB OF WASHINGTON, THAT'S HOW THEY'VE CHOSEN TO IN A SUBURB OF WASHINGTON, THAT'S HOW THEY'VE CHOSEN TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

THAT'S HOW THEY'VE CHOSEN TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SACRED, KEEP THE SABBATH.

TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SACRED, TO BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SACRED, TO BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND JUST TO BE.

TO BE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, AND JUST TO BE.

JUDY VALLENTI REPORTS.

JUST TO BE.

JUDY VALLENTI REPORTS.

>> THERE WAS A TIME IN AMERICA JUDY VALLENTI REPORTS.

>> THERE WAS A TIME IN AMERICA WHEN SUNDAYS MEANT A DAY FOR >> THERE WAS A TIME IN AMERICA WHEN SUNDAYS MEANT A DAY FOR WORSHIP.

WHEN SUNDAYS MEANT A DAY FOR WORSHIP.

FOR LEISURE, FOR SPENDING TIME WORSHIP.

FOR LEISURE, FOR SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

FOR LEISURE, FOR SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE ADVENT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE ADVENT OF ROUND-THE-CLOCK SHOPPING, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THE ADVENT OF ROUND-THE-CLOCK SHOPPING, CELL PHONES AND EMAIL THAT OF ROUND-THE-CLOCK SHOPPING, CELL PHONES AND EMAIL THAT PLACED US ON CALL 24 HOURS A CELL PHONES AND EMAIL THAT PLACED US ON CALL 24 HOURS A DAY.

PLACED US ON CALL 24 HOURS A DAY.

>> PEOPLE ARE FEELING THE BURDEN DAY.

>> PEOPLE ARE FEELING THE BURDEN AND THE PRESSURE OF A FAST-PACED >> PEOPLE ARE FEELING THE BURDEN AND THE PRESSURE OF A FAST-PACED WORLD AND WANTING TO FIND SOME AND THE PRESSURE OF A FAST-PACED WORLD AND WANTING TO FIND SOME ALTERNATIVES.

WORLD AND WANTING TO FIND SOME ALTERNATIVES.

NEW RHYTHM OF BEING AND HOW ALTERNATIVES.

NEW RHYTHM OF BEING AND HOW SABBATH IS A PART OF THAT NEW RHYTHM OF BEING AND HOW SABBATH IS A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

SABBATH IS A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

>> IT'S AN IDEA AS OLD AS THE CONVERSATION.

>> IT'S AN IDEA AS OLD AS THE BIBLE.

>> IT'S AN IDEA AS OLD AS THE BIBLE.

RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF EXODUS.

BIBLE.

RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF EXODUS.

ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, IN RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF EXODUS.

ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, IN WHICH GOD IS SAID TO HAVE TOLD ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, IN WHICH GOD IS SAID TO HAVE TOLD MOSES, REMEMBER THE SABBATH, TO WHICH GOD IS SAID TO HAVE TOLD MOSES, REMEMBER THE SABBATH, TO KEEP IT HOLY.

MOSES, REMEMBER THE SABBATH, TO KEEP IT HOLY.

IN IT THOU SHALL NOT DO ANY KEEP IT HOLY.

IN IT THOU SHALL NOT DO ANY WORK.

IN IT THOU SHALL NOT DO ANY WORK.

>> WE'LL JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES WORK.

>> WE'LL JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE, TELL THE PEOPLE AT >> WE'LL JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE, TELL THE PEOPLE AT YOUR TABLE ABOUT THAT AND WHY IS TO SHARE, TELL THE PEOPLE AT YOUR TABLE ABOUT THAT AND WHY IS IT, WHY IT CREATES SABBATH FOR YOUR TABLE ABOUT THAT AND WHY IS IT, WHY IT CREATES SABBATH FOR YOU, WHY IT HELPS MAKE SABBATH IT, WHY IT CREATES SABBATH FOR YOU, WHY IT HELPS MAKE SABBATH HAPPEN FOR YOU.

YOU, WHY IT HELPS MAKE SABBATH HAPPEN FOR YOU.

>> NOW, A GROWING NUMBER OF HAPPEN FOR YOU.

>> NOW, A GROWING NUMBER OF PASTORS ARE TRYING TO HELP >> NOW, A GROWING NUMBER OF PASTORS ARE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE RECLAIM AT LEAST ONE DAY PASTORS ARE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE RECLAIM AT LEAST ONE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR SABBATH.

PEOPLE RECLAIM AT LEAST ONE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR SABBATH.

TIME SET ASIDE FOR SPIRITUAL, OF THE WEEK FOR SABBATH.

TIME SET ASIDE FOR SPIRITUAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL RENEWAL.

TIME SET ASIDE FOR SPIRITUAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL RENEWAL.

WHETHERIS SUNDAY OR EVEN ANOTHER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL RENEWAL.

WHETHERIS SUNDAY OR EVEN ANOTHER DAY.

WHETHERIS SUNDAY OR EVEN ANOTHER DAY.

IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE MOST DAY.

IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE MOST PRECIOUS PRESENT MANKIND HAS IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE MOST PRECIOUS PRESENT MANKIND HAS RECEIVED FROM THE TREASURE HOUSE PRECIOUS PRESENT MANKIND HAS RECEIVED FROM THE TREASURE HOUSE OF GOD.

RECEIVED FROM THE TREASURE HOUSE OF GOD.

>> THESE CLERGY MEMBERS ARE HERE OF GOD.

>> THESE CLERGY MEMBERS ARE HERE TO EXPLORE REALISTIC WAYS THAT >> THESE CLERGY MEMBERS ARE HERE TO EXPLORE REALISTIC WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THE SABBATH.

TO EXPLORE REALISTIC WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THE SABBATH.

DESPITE ALL OF THE DISTRACTIONS PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE THE SABBATH.

DESPITE ALL OF THE DISTRACTIONS AND INTERRUPTIONS FAMILIES FACE DESPITE ALL OF THE DISTRACTIONS AND INTERRUPTIONS FAMILIES FACE ON A DAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND INTERRUPTIONS FAMILIES FACE ON A DAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HOLY TIME.

ON A DAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HOLY TIME.

>> SABBATH IS THE GREAT LEVELER.

HOLY TIME.

>> SABBATH IS THE GREAT LEVELER.

I MEAN IF WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY >> SABBATH IS THE GREAT LEVELER.

I MEAN IF WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY AS A CULTURE, IT MEANS THAT NO I MEAN IF WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY AS A CULTURE, IT MEANS THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR LIFE SITUATION, AS A CULTURE, IT MEANS THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR LIFE SITUATION, WHETHER YOU ARE BILL GATES, OR MATTER WHAT YOUR LIFE SITUATION, WHETHER YOU ARE BILL GATES, OR THE PERSON WHO CLEANS BILL WHETHER YOU ARE BILL GATES, OR THE PERSON WHO CLEANS BILL GATES' OFFICE, YOU HAVE AN THE PERSON WHO CLEANS BILL GATES' OFFICE, YOU HAVE AN INHERIT DIGNITY AND FOR A TIME GATES' OFFICE, YOU HAVE AN INHERIT DIGNITY AND FOR A TIME EACH WEEK YOU DO NOT NEED TO INHERIT DIGNITY AND FOR A TIME EACH WEEK YOU DO NOT NEED TO DEFEND YOUR EXISTENCE.

EACH WEEK YOU DO NOT NEED TO DEFEND YOUR EXISTENCE.

TO PROVE YOUR WORTH IN THE DEFEND YOUR EXISTENCE.

TO PROVE YOUR WORTH IN THE CULTURE AND IN THE MARKETPLACE.

TO PROVE YOUR WORTH IN THE CULTURE AND IN THE MARKETPLACE.

>> THERE IS A SENSE OF BOY I'M CULTURE AND IN THE MARKETPLACE.

>> THERE IS A SENSE OF BOY I'M IMPORTANT, I'VE GOT 35 EMAILS >> THERE IS A SENSE OF BOY I'M IMPORTANT, I'VE GOT 35 EMAILS AND I GOT TEN TEXT MESSAGES IMPORTANT, I'VE GOT 35 EMAILS AND I GOT TEN TEXT MESSAGES TODAY.

AND I GOT TEN TEXT MESSAGES TODAY.

>> GOD DIDN'T SAY, GEE YOU TODAY.

>> GOD DIDN'T SAY, GEE YOU SHOULD TAKE A DAY OFF.

>> GOD DIDN'T SAY, GEE YOU SHOULD TAKE A DAY OFF.

GOD SAID -- REMEMBER THE SABBATH SHOULD TAKE A DAY OFF.

GOD SAID -- REMEMBER THE SABBATH AND KEEP IT HOLY.

GOD SAID -- REMEMBER THE SABBATH AND KEEP IT HOLY.

TAKE A DAY, SURE, TAKE A DAY.

AND KEEP IT HOLY.

TAKE A DAY, SURE, TAKE A DAY.

NO, IT WAS DO THIS.

TAKE A DAY, SURE, TAKE A DAY.

NO, IT WAS DO THIS.

THIS IS MY COMMANDMENT.

NO, IT WAS DO THIS.

THIS IS MY COMMANDMENT.

>> WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT IN A THIS IS MY COMMANDMENT.

>> WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT IN A VERY FIXED WAY.

>> WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT IN A VERY FIXED WAY.

ONE DAY WHERE WE DON'T DO ANY VERY FIXED WAY.

ONE DAY WHERE WE DON'T DO ANY WORK.

ONE DAY WHERE WE DON'T DO ANY WORK.

BUT WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT WORK.

BUT WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT SABBATH IN I THINK A LOT OF BUT WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT SABBATH IN I THINK A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND I THINK WE SABBATH IN I THINK A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND I THINK WE CAN HELP OUR PARISHIONERS THINK DIFFERENT WAYS AND I THINK WE CAN HELP OUR PARISHIONERS THINK ABOUT SABBATH IN A DIFFERENT CAN HELP OUR PARISHIONERS THINK ABOUT SABBATH IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

ABOUT SABBATH IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

>> MARY ANNE McKIBEN DANA, A WAY.

>> MARY ANNE McKIBEN DANA, A PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER FROM >> MARY ANNE McKIBEN DANA, A PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER FROM VIRGINIA, CHRONICLED HER OWN PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER FROM VIRGINIA, CHRONICLED HER OWN FAMILY STRUGGLES TO SET ASIDE VIRGINIA, CHRONICLED HER OWN FAMILY STRUGGLES TO SET ASIDE ONE DAY A WEEK, IN A BOOK CALLED FAMILY STRUGGLES TO SET ASIDE ONE DAY A WEEK, IN A BOOK CALLED "SABBATH IN THE SUBURBS."

ONE DAY A WEEK, IN A BOOK CALLED "SABBATH IN THE SUBURBS."

NOW SHE LEADS WORKSHOPS ACROSS "SABBATH IN THE SUBURBS."

NOW SHE LEADS WORKSHOPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, TRYING TO FIND NOW SHE LEADS WORKSHOPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, TRYING TO FIND OTHERS FIND SOME SABBATH TIME THE COUNTRY, TRYING TO FIND OTHERS FIND SOME SABBATH TIME DURING EACH WEEK.

OTHERS FIND SOME SABBATH TIME DURING EACH WEEK.

>> WE ALL LEFT THINGS UNDONE TO DURING EACH WEEK.

>> WE ALL LEFT THINGS UNDONE TO BE HERE, LET IT BE.

>> WE ALL LEFT THINGS UNDONE TO BE HERE, LET IT BE.

AND I ALSO FIND THIS A HELPFUL BE HERE, LET IT BE.

AND I ALSO FIND THIS A HELPFUL WAY TO START MY SABBATH IS TO AND I ALSO FIND THIS A HELPFUL WAY TO START MY SABBATH IS TO SAY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HAS BEEN WAY TO START MY SABBATH IS TO SAY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HAS BEEN DONE, WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE HAS SAY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HAS BEEN DONE, WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

DONE, WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

LET IT BE.

NOT BEEN DONE.

LET IT BE.

>> McKIBEN DANA HAS WORKING FULL LET IT BE.

>> McKIBEN DANA HAS WORKING FULL TIME AS A PASTOR AND PREGNANT >> McKIBEN DANA HAS WORKING FULL TIME AS A PASTOR AND PREGNANT WITH HER THIRD CHILD WHEN SHE TIME AS A PASTOR AND PREGNANT WITH HER THIRD CHILD WHEN SHE DECIDED SOMETHING IN HER HECTIC WITH HER THIRD CHILD WHEN SHE DECIDED SOMETHING IN HER HECTIC LIFE HAD TO CHANGE.

DECIDED SOMETHING IN HER HECTIC LIFE HAD TO CHANGE.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND VOWED TO SET LIFE HAD TO CHANGE.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND VOWED TO SET ASIDE ONE DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE SHE AND HER HUSBAND VOWED TO SET ASIDE ONE DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE THEY DIDN'T WORK, RUN ERRANDS, ASIDE ONE DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE THEY DIDN'T WORK, RUN ERRANDS, SHOP, OR RETURN EMAILS.

THEY DIDN'T WORK, RUN ERRANDS, SHOP, OR RETURN EMAILS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKED ME, HOW SHOP, OR RETURN EMAILS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKED ME, HOW DID YOU DO THIS?

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKED ME, HOW DID YOU DO THIS?

PEOPLE DO THIS.

DID YOU DO THIS?

PEOPLE DO THIS.

THE JEWISH TRADITION STILL HAVE PEOPLE DO THIS.

THE JEWISH TRADITION STILL HAVE A VERY STRONG COMPONENT OF THE JEWISH TRADITION STILL HAVE A VERY STRONG COMPONENT OF SABBATH-KEEPING TO IT.

A VERY STRONG COMPONENT OF SABBATH-KEEPING TO IT.

>> IT WASN'T EASY, BECAUSE SHE SABBATH-KEEPING TO IT.

>> IT WASN'T EASY, BECAUSE SHE IS A PASTOR AND HAD DUTIES ON >> IT WASN'T EASY, BECAUSE SHE IS A PASTOR AND HAD DUTIES ON SUNDAY, SHE AND HER FAMILY IS A PASTOR AND HAD DUTIES ON SUNDAY, SHE AND HER FAMILY DECIDED TO OBSERVE THEIR SABBATH SUNDAY, SHE AND HER FAMILY DECIDED TO OBSERVE THEIR SABBATH ON SATURDAYS.

DECIDED TO OBSERVE THEIR SABBATH ON SATURDAYS.

>> I'LL KNOCK IT DOWN.

ON SATURDAYS.

>> I'LL KNOCK IT DOWN.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU PLAY >> I'LL KNOCK IT DOWN.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME.

>> NO, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME.

>> WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR OWN THE GAME.

>> WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR OWN FAITH, WE REALLY HAVE A RESOURCE >> WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR OWN FAITH, WE REALLY HAVE A RESOURCE IN THE SABBATH AS AN INVITATION FAITH, WE REALLY HAVE A RESOURCE IN THE SABBATH AS AN INVITATION FROM GOD, A COMMAND FROM GOD, TO IN THE SABBATH AS AN INVITATION FROM GOD, A COMMAND FROM GOD, TO SAY ONE TIME A WEEK, YOU SET ALL FROM GOD, A COMMAND FROM GOD, TO SAY ONE TIME A WEEK, YOU SET ALL THAT ASIDE AND YOU JUST ENJOY SAY ONE TIME A WEEK, YOU SET ALL THAT ASIDE AND YOU JUST ENJOY ONE ANOTHER AND YOU ENJOY GOD.

THAT ASIDE AND YOU JUST ENJOY ONE ANOTHER AND YOU ENJOY GOD.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ANYWHERE.

ONE ANOTHER AND YOU ENJOY GOD.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ANYWHERE.

AND, THEY LOVE TO HEAR THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ANYWHERE.

AND, THEY LOVE TO HEAR THAT.

THEY CALL IT THE SABBATH, BUT AND, THEY LOVE TO HEAR THAT.

THEY CALL IT THE SABBATH, BUT THEY ALSO CALL IT THE STAY AT THEY CALL IT THE SABBATH, BUT THEY ALSO CALL IT THE STAY AT HOME DAY.

THEY ALSO CALL IT THE STAY AT HOME DAY.

WE'LL LIGHT A CANDLE TO SORT OF HOME DAY.

WE'LL LIGHT A CANDLE TO SORT OF REMIND OURSELVES THAT THIS IS A WE'LL LIGHT A CANDLE TO SORT OF REMIND OURSELVES THAT THIS IS A TIME SET APART.

REMIND OURSELVES THAT THIS IS A TIME SET APART.

AND WE DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT TIME SET APART.

AND WE DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THAT.

AND WE DON'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THAT.

WE JUST HAVE IT THERE.

OF THAT.

WE JUST HAVE IT THERE.

WE ALSO MAY HAVE MUSIC PLAYING WE JUST HAVE IT THERE.

WE ALSO MAY HAVE MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND, WHICH PUTS US WE ALSO MAY HAVE MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND, WHICH PUTS US IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF FRAME OF IN THE BACKGROUND, WHICH PUTS US IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF FRAME OF MIND.

IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF FRAME OF MIND.

>> THE GIANT TV SCREEN IN THE MIND.

>> THE GIANT TV SCREEN IN THE BASEMENT REMAINS MUTE.

>> THE GIANT TV SCREEN IN THE BASEMENT REMAINS MUTE.

THE COMPUTER IS TURNED OFF.

BASEMENT REMAINS MUTE.

THE COMPUTER IS TURNED OFF.

THE FAMILY DOESN'T USE THE PHONE THE COMPUTER IS TURNED OFF.

THE FAMILY DOESN'T USE THE PHONE TO MAKE CALLS, BUT IT WILL THE FAMILY DOESN'T USE THE PHONE TO MAKE CALLS, BUT IT WILL ACCEPT CALLS FROM FRIENDS.

TO MAKE CALLS, BUT IT WILL ACCEPT CALLS FROM FRIENDS.

>> THE CHURCH REALLY HAS CALLED ACCEPT CALLS FROM FRIENDS.

>> THE CHURCH REALLY HAS CALLED I THINK TO BE A COUNTERCULTURAL >> THE CHURCH REALLY HAS CALLED I THINK TO BE A COUNTERCULTURAL VOICE, TO SAY -- YOU ARE ENOUGH, I THINK TO BE A COUNTERCULTURAL VOICE, TO SAY -- YOU ARE ENOUGH, YOU DO ENOUGH, THERE IS A TIME VOICE, TO SAY -- YOU ARE ENOUGH, YOU DO ENOUGH, THERE IS A TIME EACH WEEK WHERE YOU CAN JUST YOU DO ENOUGH, THERE IS A TIME EACH WEEK WHERE YOU CAN JUST STOP.

EACH WEEK WHERE YOU CAN JUST STOP.

>> I WONDER IF MARGARET AND STOP.

>> I WONDER IF MARGARET AND CAROLYN CAN GET OUT THE >> I WONDER IF MARGARET AND CAROLYN CAN GET OUT THE INGREDIENTS THAT ARE LISTED CAROLYN CAN GET OUT THE INGREDIENTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, OKAY?

INGREDIENTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, OKAY?

>> McKIBEN DANA STRESSES THAT THERE, OKAY?

>> McKIBEN DANA STRESSES THAT OBSERVING SABBATH DOESN'T MEAN >> McKIBEN DANA STRESSES THAT OBSERVING SABBATH DOESN'T MEAN DOING ONLY THINGS THAT ARE OBSERVING SABBATH DOESN'T MEAN DOING ONLY THINGS THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY RELIGIOUS OR HOLY.

DOING ONLY THINGS THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY RELIGIOUS OR HOLY.

BUT MAKING HOLY THE ACTS OF TRADITIONALLY RELIGIOUS OR HOLY.

BUT MAKING HOLY THE ACTS OF ORDINARY LUNCH.

BUT MAKING HOLY THE ACTS OF ORDINARY LUNCH.

♪ FOR HEALTH AND STRENGTH AND ORDINARY LUNCH.

♪ FOR HEALTH AND STRENGTH AND DAILY FOOD♪ ♪ FOR HEALTH AND STRENGTH AND DAILY FOOD♪ ♪ WE GIVE YOU THANKS OH LORD♪ DAILY FOOD♪ ♪ WE GIVE YOU THANKS OH LORD♪ >> FOR SOME PEOPLE THE IDEA OF ♪ WE GIVE YOU THANKS OH LORD♪ >> FOR SOME PEOPLE THE IDEA OF TAKING OFF AN ENTIRE DAY EITHER >> FOR SOME PEOPLE THE IDEA OF TAKING OFF AN ENTIRE DAY EITHER FEELS OVERWHELMING OR IT REALLY TAKING OFF AN ENTIRE DAY EITHER FEELS OVERWHELMING OR IT REALLY IS LOGISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

FEELS OVERWHELMING OR IT REALLY IS LOGISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

I TELL PEOPLE TO START WHERE YOU IS LOGISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

I TELL PEOPLE TO START WHERE YOU ARE.

I TELL PEOPLE TO START WHERE YOU ARE.

A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE AN ENTIRE ARE.

A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE AN ENTIRE DAY AT OUR DISPOSAL, BUT WE A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE AN ENTIRE DAY AT OUR DISPOSAL, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORNING ON THE DAY AT OUR DISPOSAL, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORNING ON THE WEEKEND.

MIGHT HAVE ONE MORNING ON THE WEEKEND.

>> I SEE DUCKS IN THE WATER.

WEEKEND.

>> I SEE DUCKS IN THE WATER.

>> WE LOVE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AS >> I SEE DUCKS IN THE WATER.

>> WE LOVE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AS PART OF OUR SABBATH.

>> WE LOVE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AS PART OF OUR SABBATH.

WE LOVE GOING TO THE STATE PARK PART OF OUR SABBATH.

WE LOVE GOING TO THE STATE PARK NEAR OUR HOUSE.

WE LOVE GOING TO THE STATE PARK NEAR OUR HOUSE.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE NEAR OUR HOUSE.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE CHANGING OF THE SEASONS.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE CHANGING OF THE SEASONS.

AND HAVING THE TIME ON SABBATH CHANGING OF THE SEASONS.

AND HAVING THE TIME ON SABBATH TO DO THAT, HAS REALLY BEEN VERY AND HAVING THE TIME ON SABBATH TO DO THAT, HAS REALLY BEEN VERY SPECIAL FOR OUR FAMILY.

TO DO THAT, HAS REALLY BEEN VERY SPECIAL FOR OUR FAMILY.

>> PSALM 90 IS ONE OF THOSE SPECIAL FOR OUR FAMILY.

>> PSALM 90 IS ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL PSALMS ABOUT TIME AND >> PSALM 90 IS ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL PSALMS ABOUT TIME AND THE PACKAGE OF TIME IT SAYS BEAUTIFUL PSALMS ABOUT TIME AND THE PACKAGE OF TIME IT SAYS TEACH US TO COUNT OUR DAYS THAT THE PACKAGE OF TIME IT SAYS TEACH US TO COUNT OUR DAYS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A WISE HEART.

TEACH US TO COUNT OUR DAYS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A WISE HEART.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT HAVE A WISE HEART.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SABBATH HELPS US TO DO.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SABBATH HELPS US TO DO.

TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THE PASSAGE THAT THE SABBATH HELPS US TO DO.

TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THE PASSAGE OF TIME.

TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THE PASSAGE OF TIME.

SABBATH HELPS US COUNT OUR DAYS, OF TIME.

SABBATH HELPS US COUNT OUR DAYS, AND MAKES THEM COUNT.

SABBATH HELPS US COUNT OUR DAYS, AND MAKES THEM COUNT.

AND NOT JUST BE ABOUT DOING AND AND MAKES THEM COUNT.

AND NOT JUST BE ABOUT DOING AND PRODUCING AND MORE MORE MORE.

AND NOT JUST BE ABOUT DOING AND PRODUCING AND MORE MORE MORE.

BUT TO BE CONTENT AND TO PRODUCING AND MORE MORE MORE.

BUT TO BE CONTENT AND TO APPRECIATE THE GIFT AND THE BUT TO BE CONTENT AND TO APPRECIATE THE GIFT AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS DAY THAT WE HAVE.

APPRECIATE THE GIFT AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS DAY THAT WE HAVE.

>> AND PERHAPS RECLAIM SOMETHING BEAUTY OF THIS DAY THAT WE HAVE.

>> AND PERHAPS RECLAIM SOMETHING FROM SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS ON THE >> AND PERHAPS RECLAIM SOMETHING FROM SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS ON THE SEVENTH DAY, EVEN GOD RESTED.

FROM SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS ON THE SEVENTH DAY, EVEN GOD RESTED.

FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS SEVENTH DAY, EVEN GOD RESTED.

FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS WEEKLY" THIS IS JUDY VALLENTI FOR "RELIGION AND ETHICS NEWS WEEKLY" THIS IS JUDY VALLENTI REPORTING.

WEEKLY" THIS IS JUDY VALLENTI REPORTING.

>>> IN A STUDY OF 189 U.S.

REPORTING.

>>> IN A STUDY OF 189 U.S. METROPOLITAN AREAS, THE GALLUP >>> IN A STUDY OF 189 U.S. METROPOLITAN AREAS, THE GALLUP POLL HAS IDENTIFIED THE MOST AND METROPOLITAN AREAS, THE GALLUP POLL HAS IDENTIFIED THE MOST AND THE LEAST RELIGIOUS PLACES IN POLL HAS IDENTIFIED THE MOST AND THE LEAST RELIGIOUS PLACES IN THE COUNTRY.

THE LEAST RELIGIOUS PLACES IN THE COUNTRY.

THE PROVO-ORREN AREA IN UTAH HAD THE COUNTRY.

THE PROVO-ORREN AREA IN UTAH HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO THE PROVO-ORREN AREA IN UTAH HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY'RE VERY RELIGIOUS, THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY'RE VERY RELIGIOUS, 77%.

SAID THEY'RE VERY RELIGIOUS, 77%.

THE LOWEST NUMBER WAS IN 77%.

THE LOWEST NUMBER WAS IN BURLINGTON AND SOUTH BURLINGTON, THE LOWEST NUMBER WAS IN BURLINGTON AND SOUTH BURLINGTON, VERMONT, WITH JUST 17%.

BURLINGTON AND SOUTH BURLINGTON, VERMONT, WITH JUST 17%.

NATIONWIDE, 40% OF AMERICANS VERMONT, WITH JUST 17%.

NATIONWIDE, 40% OF AMERICANS SAID THEY ARE VERY RELIGIOUS.

NATIONWIDE, 40% OF AMERICANS SAID THEY ARE VERY RELIGIOUS.

THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR NOW, I'M SAID THEY ARE VERY RELIGIOUS.

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