SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK ON IVORY TOWER.

DONALD TRUMP, THE CONVENTION, THE CHOICE FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

AND BACK HERE IN NEW YORK-- CELLPHONES IN SCHOOLS.

STAY TUNED!

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M BARBARA FOUGHT, FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.

JOINING ME ON THE PANEL THIS WEEK ARE -- NINA MOORE, FROM COLGATE, UNIVERSITY.

TY SEIDULE FROM HAMILTON COLLEGE ANIRBAN ACHARYA, FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE, AND LUKE PERRY FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

REPUBLICANS RAISED THE ROOF IN MILWAUKEE THIS WEEK AT THEIR CONVENTION.

MUCH TALK ABOUT UNITY.

MUCH GRATEFULNESS THAT DONALD TRUMP SURVIVED AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT.

AMIDST THE HOOPLA AND THE SPEECHES, DID THEY SHOWCASE A KINDER AND GENTLER REPUBLICAN PARTY?

>> WELL, IT DID STRIKE ME AS A PARTY THAT WAS MUCH LESS DIVISIVE IN TERMS OF THE SPEECHES THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SOME PAST.

I WAS STRUCK BY THE CELEBRATORY NEWS, FACT THAT WERE SO MANY PEOPLE DANCING OR AT LEAST TRYING TO DANCE.

AND THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A POSITIVE-- I HATE TO SAY THIS-- BUT I THINK THEY ALL MENTIONED IT-- A POSITIVE IMPACT OF THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT THAT MADE PEOPLE THINK BEYOND THE PAROCHIAL THINKING THAT HAS DOMINATED IN THE PAST AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THOUGHT WAS NEW HERE AND PERHAPS REFLECTING A KINDER, GENTLER REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE EMPHASIS ON MANUFACTURING JOBS AND HAVING TO SORT OF BOOST AMERICA'S MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY.

I LOOK BACK AT THE 2016 PLATFORM AND DIDN'T SEE THAT IT WAS PROMINENT.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE TALKING A KINDER, GENTLER REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT THEY'RE WALKING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PARTY THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST.

AND SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLATFORM IN REGARD TO MIGRANTS, IT IS VERY, VERY STRONGLY ANTI-MIGRANTS.

IT'S VERY ANTI-TRANSGENDER AND WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS IF WE LIKE AND ALSO ANTI-DEI.

KINDER AND GENTLER TALK BUT WALKING THE SAME WALK AS IN THE PAST.

>> IT IS INTEREST CAN, AS A HISTORIAN, WE HAVE A CHANGE IN ONE OF OUR MAJOR PARTIES AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF REAGAN, BUSH, ROME ROMNEY IS DEAD.

I MEAN THERE IS NOT EVEN A SIGN OF A CORPS ANYMORE.

YOU ARE EITHER ON THE TRUMP SIDE OR YOU ARE NOT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT IS I SAW MOST OF ALL.

CARL MARX WOULD SAY THAT PARTY IS ON THE ASH HEAP OF INDUSTRY.

TO SEE WE HAVE A TRUMPIAN PARTY AND IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE BOARD, YOU ARE NOT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> CAN I PUT AN EXCLAMATION MARK AT THE END OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I SEE THIS AS A PARTY OF ONE.

AND AS YOU SAID, NOT THE POLITICAL PARTY OF THE PAST.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE SPECIFICS THAT I WAS VERY, VERY MUCH SORT OF STRUCK BY LAST NIGHT THAT HULK HOGAN TALKED ABOUT TRUMPITE AND TRUMP MANIA TO REVEREND GRAHAM WHO I DON'T QUITE ADMIRE AS MUCH AS HIS FATHER, BILLY GRAHAM, HE EXPLICITLY PRAYED FOR DONALD TRUMP THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE TRUMP AND PRAYING FOR THE WORLD WAS ANCILLARY TO THAT AND ERIC TRUMP SAID SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS WOW.

HE SAID HIS FATHER WAS THE SINGLE GREATEST HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD.

>> YEAH, I MEAN I WAS LOOKING AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION.

I ACTUALLY UNFORTUNATELY OR FORTUNATELY WATCHED THE WHOLE THING.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE I FEEL LIKE.

THERE WERE CASES WHERE THERE WERE SPEECHES WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T MENTION TAX CUTS.

THEY DIDN'T MENTION REDUCING GOVERNMENT SPENDING, ESPECIALLY I REMEMBER VANCE'S SPEECH.

SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS-- YOU KNOW, ABORTION-- THEY WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE TOPICS.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT IS THE CRUCIBLE OF THE KING CORONATION, THE CORONATION OF TRUMP THE KING, THE PARTY HAS SURROUNDED AROUND HIM.

HE IS CHOSEN BY GOD BECAUSE HE SURVIVED AN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE WERE LIES AFTER LIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IMMIGRANTS BRINGING IN FENTANYL AND KILLING OUR COMMUNITIES.

UNTRUE.

90% OF ALL FENTANYL COMES BY U.S. CITIZENS FROM THE PORTS OF ENTRY.

THERE WERE TONS AND TONS OF ANTI-IMMIGRANT LIES AND THE SAME OLD, YOU KNOW, SIEGE MENTALITY OF A SEA OF WHITE PEOPLE WITH A SMATTERING OF BLACK AND BROWN HERE AND THERE BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO-- YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER, THEY WANT TO AS IF THEY ARE SAYING THEY'RE PROLABOR PARTY WHICH IS KIND OF DISTOAPIC BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT OF A SCREEN SAVER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

I SAW THIS INTERESTING THING HAPPENING IN THE CONVENTION.

>> LUKE, YOU HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL CONVENTIONS.

I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR TAKE HOW YOU SAW THIS WAS DIFFERENT.

>> THE NATURE OF THE CONVENTION.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT COVID AND THE 2020 CONVENTIONS MIGHT CHANGE HOW EACH PARTY APPROACHES THE CONVENTION, LAST TIME IT WAS MUCH MORE VIRTUAL AND MULTIMEDIA AND MORE SPACING.

THIS IS KIND OF A THROW BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE.

SO A LITTLE BIT MORE USE OF MULTIMEDIA AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF, BUT I THOUGHT IT LOOKED MORE LIKE 2016 THAN 2020.

IN TERMS OF THE POLITICAL DYNAMICS, ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME IS DONALD TRUMP IS THE FRONTRUN AND WE CAN CRITICIZE THE PLATFORM BUT HE DESERVES CREDIT FOR BEING IN THIS POSITION.

I WOULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED THIS MONTHS AGO.

THE MESSAGING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, CAST A WIDER NET.

WHY?

BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO CRUISE TO VICTORY.

AS WE ANTICIPATE THINGS MIGHT CHANGE DRASTICALLY IF BIDEN STEPS ASIDE.

>> THAT'S THE OTHER THING, TO LOOK HOW UNIFIED THE REPUBLICANS ARE, HOW ALL TOGETHER IN ONE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN DISARRAY AND IF YOU HAD TOLD ME THAT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WOULD NOT HAVE BELIEVED AFTER JANUARY 6, THAT THE REPUBLICANS WOULD BE ON THE TRUMP TRAIN ALL HAPPY.

AND IT WAS A HAPPY CONVENTION.

IT REALLY WAS.

AND COMPARE THAT TO THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE, RIGHT NOW, IN DISARRAY.

>> COULD I ALSO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT LUKE JUST SAID AND DRILL DOWN ON IT.

I THINK SOME OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH THE POLICIES POSITIONS IS CASTING A WIDER NET AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREAS WHERE BIDEN HAS BEEN STRONG.

I SORT OF THOUGHT, OKAY, WE'VE GOT KID ROCK, WE'VE GOT THE GUY WHO DID WRESTLING AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT SPEAKERS IN TERMS OF LINEUP BUT BIDEN HAS SEEN INCREASES IN SUPPORT OF THE YOUTH SO I FIGURE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT ALSO THE ABORTION SOCHING ON THE-- SOFTENING ON THE PART OF TRUMP.

THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY WON THE BATTLE BECAUSE NOW ROE HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN, BUT I SAW SOME OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

>> LET ME MOVE US TO OUR NEXT TOPIC WHICH FLOWS RIGHT OUT OF THIS.

AND THAT IS THE NEW VICE PRESIDENT USUALLY CHOICE.

DONALD TRUMP MILKED THE DRAMA OF NAMING HIS CHOICE FOR VICE-PRESIDENT, WAITING UNTIL THE FIRST DAY OF THE CONVENTION.

MOST OF US DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT JD VANCE.

HE, WHO GREW UP IN POVERTY IN OHIO, SERVED IN THE MARINES, GRADUATED FROM YALE LAW, BECAME A VENTURE CAPITALIST.

HE'S SERVED IN THE U.S. SENATE FEWER THAN TWO YEARS.

I'M WONDERING, ANIRBAN, WHAT DOES HE ADD TO THE TICKET, ESPECIALLY FOR CENTRAL NEW YORKERS?

>> I THINK HE IS A VERY INTERESTING CHOICE, RIGHT?

RUPERT MURDOCH WALL STREET JOURNAL AND ALL THESE SITES DIDN'T WANT VANCE TO BE PICK AND TOLD TRUMP ACCORDINGLY BUT TRUMP IS SEEING AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS SEEING THAT THEY NEED TO COURT THE WORKING CLASS FOLKS.

SO WHAT VANCE ALLOWS IS TO KIND OF PRETEND, ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO KIND OF PRETEND ON THE FACE OF IT, THAT THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THE WORKING CLASS.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY START CARING ABOUT THE WORKING CLASS WHILE BEING 70 YEARS OF ACTUALLY ANTIUNION PARTY.

AND THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.

AND J.D.

VANCE, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE SHIFTED FROM, YOU KNOW, CALLING TRUMP A HITLER TO HIS, YOU KNOW, IN LOVE WITH TRUMP ALL OF A SUDDEN.

I DON'T KNOW HIS HEAD OR HIS HEAD FAKES, BUT WHAT WE CAN SEE IS THAT VANCE JOINED WITH JOSH IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE UAW STRIKE.

THEY ALSO WENT AND SUPPORTED THE COALITION TO DRAW IN RAILROAD REDUCE DROP COSTS.

THERE ARE OTHER PROGRESSIVE ISSUES IN WHICH VANCE HAS PROVIDED THE VOTE SO I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CALL POLITICAL REALIGNMENT IN THE U.S. WE DON'T KNOW.

IT'S STRANGE AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

DEMOCRATS LOST THE CHANCE.

NOW THEY STAND AS THE PARTY OF ELITE.

THEY WERE THE PARTY OF LABOR.

THEY FORGOT TO COURT LABOR, GOT CAUGHT UP WITH THE COLOR OF BAND-AID ON THEIR SKIN AND SEEING THE WORK WORKING CLASS VOTE IS BEING TAKEN BY REPUBLICANS.

ARE THEY SURE ABOUT THAT OR CORRECT ABOUT THAT?

I DON'T THINK SO BUT WITH THE TEAMSTERS UNION COMING IN AND TALKING, I SEE ORGANIZED LABOR IS WILLING TO QUOTE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SAYING WE WILL COURT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND I HOPE THERE IS A DOOR THAT OPENS WITH VANCE AND OTHERS THAT ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN KIND OF PROLABOR POLICIES TO COME IN BUT I'VE YET TO SEE THAT.

>> ANOTHER SHORT-TERM CONSIDERATION IS AGE.

OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO INJECT SOME YOUTH INTO THE RACE BUT LONG-TERM I THINK IT'S ABOUT LEGACY.

TRUMP GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD.

HE IS THINKING ABOUT HIS LIFE IN FINITE TERM AND IMMEDIATE REALITY.

WHEN YOU LISTEN TO HIM SPEAK AT THE CONVENTION, HE TALKED ABOUT VANCE AS SOMEONE TO CARRY THE MAGA MOVEMENT FORWARD FOR YEARS TO COME AND I THINK PICKING SOMEBODY WITH LIMITED POLITICAL BACKGROUND THAT HAS TO BE INHERENTLY GRATEFUL TO TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY BECAUSE ANOTHER THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AT THE CONVENTION IS HIS SONS ARE GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE AT SOME POINT.

I THINK VANCE CEMENTS IN TRUMP'S HEAD HIS LEGACY MOVING FORWARD.

HE HAS THE YOUTH AND ABILITY TO DO THAT AND HE WILL WORK TO HELP TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY FOR YEARS TO COME.

>> I THINK TWO THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS.

FIRST REMEMBER IT'S THE VICE PRESIDENT AND AS ROOSEVELT EATS VICE PRESIDENT, JOHN GARNER, I THINK HIS NAME WAS SAID THE VICE PRESIDENCY ISN'T WORTH A BUCKET OF WARM SPIT.

AND I THINK IT WAS EARTHIER THAN THAT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING TO REMEMBER.

IT'S NOT AN IMPORTANT JOB.

THE SECOND THING IS WHAT IT STANDS, THE LEGACY OF TRUMP, WHAT IT STANDS FOR AND IT'S THE ISMS.

NATIVISM, ISOLATIONISM AND PROTECTIONISM.

THOSE THREE THINGS ARE NOW THE CORE IDEOLOGY OF TRUMP AND HE IS SAYING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEGACY.

IT'S GOING TO MOVE ON AND IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND THOSE THREE THINGS WHICH NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO ARTICULATE THEM QUITE AS WELL AS J.D.

VANCE AND THAT IS GOING BACK TO THE PERIOD IN THE 1920s WHEN THOSE WERE THE THREE THINGS THAT WE PASSED LOTS OF LEGISLATION AROUND THOSE THREE THINGS, SMOOT HAWLEY, IMMIGRATION BILLS.

IT WAS A VERY-- IT WAS ISOLATIONIST PERIOD AS WELL.

IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THAT.

>> I COME AT THIS IN A VERY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND THAT I FIND SORT OF EYEBROW RAISING.

AND THE FIRST IS THAT THE VERY HAP HAZARD WAY IN WHICH HE WAS CHOSEN TO BE VICE PRESIDENT.

SOME ACCOUNTS SAY HE DIDN'T LEARN UNTIL AFTER HE SAW IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR NEWS REPORTS AND OTHERS SAY THAT TRUMP CALLED HIM 15 MINUTES BEFORE.

AND SO HAVE YOU TO WONDER ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY MATTERED FOR THIS ELECTION.

I SEE THIS AS HAS BEEN SORT OF HINTED AT, IN YOUR COMMENTS, I SEE THIS AS ABOUT IDENTITY POLITICS.

THIS IS A REPUBLICAN BRAND OF IDENTITY POLITICS BY APPEALING TO THE WHITE WORKING CLASS BECAUSE WE CANNOT POINT TO HIS EXPERIENCE.

HE HAS ONLY SERVED TWO YEARS IN THE SENATE.

AND HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT LEADERSHIP.

AND YET HE WILL NOW BE THE SECOND PERSON IN LINE SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THE PRESIDENT.

HE WILL BECOME PRESIDENT BASED ON THAT.

HERE IS ONE OF MY THOUGHTS ABOUT HIM.

I WON'T SO MUCH SAY IT'S A CONCERN JUST BECAUSE MY VIEWS ON ABORTION ARE COMPLICATED.

BUT UNLIKE SOME REPUBLICANS, AND PERHAPS EVEN TRUMP HIMSELF, VANCE STRIKES ME AS A TRUE BELIEVER WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF HIS POLICY STANCES; THAT HE IS NOT JUST TOUTING THE PARTY LINE; FOR EXAMPLE WITH RESPECT TO ABORTION, HE BASICALLY EXPRESSED SOMETHING OPENLY THAT HAVE I SPOKEN ABOUT HERE ON THIS SHOW BEFORE, AND THAT IS HIS CONCERN FOR SUPPORTING ABORTION IN ALL INSTANCES IS DRIVEN PARTLY BY THE FACT THAT HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOW BIRTH RATE IN AMERICA AND WHAT HE REALLY MEANS IS THE LOW BIRTH RATE OF WHITE WOMEN BECAUSE THAT'S FALLING BEHIND.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE OTHER POLICY POSITIONS.

HE IS TALKING ONE THING OUT OF THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS MOUTH AND OUT OF THE RIGHT SIDE, HE IS VERY EXTREME POLICY.

>> TY, DOES HE HELP IN CENTRAL NEW YORK THE TICKET OR DOES HE HELP THE LOCAL CONGRESSIONAL RACES DO YOU THINK?

>> I DON'T THINK IT HELPS OR HURTS.

IT MIGHT BE IN A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE PLACES THAT OHIO, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP.

I THINK TRUMP DOESN'T NEEDED HELP.

I THINK AT THIS POINT HE HAS GOT WHAT HE'S GOT AND DOUBLING DOWN ON MAGA REALLY SHOWS HE THINKS HE DOESN'T NEED IT ANYMORE.

HE HAS GOT IT IN THE BAG.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW AND LOOK AT THE POLLING GOING ON.

RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, HE IS NOT WRONG.

>> LET'S TURN FROM NATIONAL POLITICS TO AN ISSUE HERE IN NEW YORK THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN ON A LISTENING TOUR THIS WEEK TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS.

SEVERAL CENTRAL NEW YORK DISTRICTS INCLUDING WEST GENESEE, LIVERPOOL AND SYRACUSE SCHOOLS HAVE RULES KEEPING PHONES OUT OF CLASSES.

WHO SHOULD BE DECIDING SETTING THE RULES ABOUT PHONES--- TEACHERS, SCHOOL BOARDS OR THE STATE LEGISLATURE?

>> I THINK IT DEPENDS HOW SERIOUSLY YOU VIEW THIS AS A PROBLEM AND HOW QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY YOU WANT TO DEBT SOMETHING DONE.

OBVIOUSLY LOCALITIES WANT TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER THESE TYPES OF ISSUES, BUT THE REALITY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD POLICIES ARE THAT THEY'RE GUIDELINES.

THEY'RE NOT LOCAL LAWS WHERE THERE ARE PUNITIVE MEASURES IF YOU VIOLATE THEM.

EVEN THOUGH SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE LAWS PROHIBITING CELL PHONES IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND I KNOW THIS FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THEY'RE NOT UNIFORMLY ENFORCED.

IF YOU LOOK AT CELL PHONES DISRUPTIVE IN THE CLASSROOM, NOT A VALUABLE LEARNING TOOL, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IN AN EFFECTIVE FASHION, THEN STATE GOVERNMENT IS THE WAY TO GO.

WHY?

BECAUSE ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO STATE GUIDELINES BECAUSE THEY COULD LOSE FUNDING, GET SUED.

AND THAT IS A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO GET THINGS DONE.

I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS CLEAR SHE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

I THINK THE LISTENING TOUR IS JUST SORT OF A PRETEXT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS HEARD AND SO SHE IS NOT, WHEN SHE ACTS, SHE IS NOT SURPRISING NEW YORKERS WITH WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO.

>> ANIRBAN, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?

>> LOOKING AT THE FACT THOUGH, RIGHT?

72% OF TEACHERS IN U.S. AND TALKING ABOUT THIS POLL, THEY BELIEVE THAT CELL PHONES HAVE A TERRIBLY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON CHILDREN'S LEARNING, CONCENTRATION, ATTENTION SPAN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND THERE ARE SCHOOLS THAT ARE TEST CASES WHERE THEY HAVE STRICTLY BANNED AND HAVE FOUND EXCELLENT RESULTS WITH MORE TALKING TO EACH OTHER, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SIDE WOULD CAN THAT HOW DO I GET IN TOUCH WITH MY DAUGHTER OR SON WHO IS IN SCHOOL?

AND IT'S MY CHILD.

I NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM.

HOW DO I DO THAT?

THE ANSWER IS HOW DID PEOPLE DO THAT FOR THE LAST 300 YEARS?

I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT?

SO MAYBE ONE SOLUTION WOULD BE LIKE YOU ONLY HAVE PHONES THAT CAN SEND A TEXT AND CALL AND YOU DON'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU DON'T HAVE INTERNET, YOU DON'T HAVE-- >> ISN'T TEXT STILL GOING TO BE A PROBLEM?

KIDS CAN BULLY OR TEXT EACH OTHER.

>> I SUPPOSE THEY COULD, BUT I THINK IT WAS A LESS THAN SOCIAL MEDIA.

BULLYING OVER TEXT TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

BULLYING OVER SOCIAL MEDIA IS VERY EASY, I SUPPOSE, RIGHT?

THAT COULD BE ONE SOLUTION.

IF THE P.T.A., THE PATIENCE COME AGAINST IT-- IF THE PARENTS COME AGAINST IT.

I AGREE IN MY CLASS I DON'T ALLOW ELECTRONICS WHICH IS UNGUIDED.

ELECTRONICS ARE GREAT, YOU CAN USE THEM AS TEACHING TOOLS BUT UNGUIDED USE USAGE IS DETRIMENTAL TO LEARNING BY MOST SCHOLARS.

>> TY, WHO SHOULD MAKE THE DECISION?

>> I REALLY DON'T KNOW, FRANKLY, BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DONE TEERMT PEERMTATION.

LOOKED AT SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT IT WORKED ANT THOSE THAT IT DOESN'T.

MY EXPERIENCE IS HIGHER ED AND I USE COMPUTERS AND DEMAND THAT THEY BE IN MY CLASS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW EVERYBODY, THAT'S HOW I LEARN AND IT'S CHANGED THE WAY I TEACH.

IT'S CHANGED THE WAY I LEARN.

YOU DON'T NEED THE SAME KNOWLEDGE IF YOU HAVE WIKIPEDIA THERE.

SO I USE THE COMPUTER ABSOLUTELY AND IF YOU ARE IN A LECTURE CLASSROOM, THEN IF YOU ARE NOT BEING VERY INTERESTING, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THERE DOING IT ON THE COMPUTER AS WELL SO I THINK IT ALSO SHOWS US THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF TEACHING AT THE TO ENGAGE.

AT WEST POINT IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE WE ARE AN OBEDIENCE BASED SITUATION.

>> HAMILTON IS DIFFERENT.

>> IF SOMEBODY IS USING THAT, WOULD I GO UP TO THEM AND SAY I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MAKING THIS CLASS MORE INTERESTING AND I'LL ENDEAVOR TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I DO THINK IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT SHOULD BE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BUT ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, MAYBE IT DOES GO TO THE STATE.

>> NINA, I DON'T ARE THOUGHT-- YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS.

>> I'M REELING FROM TY LETTING ME KNOW NOW THAT THE REASON WHY MY STUDENTS SURF THE WEB IS BECAUSE I'M NOT A GREAT TEACHER.

>> ONLY IN THE LECTURE.

>> IT'S USEFUL WHEN THEY SAY THAT, OH MY GOODNESS.

>> I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD OTHER THAN WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN OFFERED; THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE POSITIVE IMPACTS OF THIS IN PLACES, ESPECIALLY IN CONNECTICUT, AS WHERE IT HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE AND OTHER RESEARCH SHOWS THAT TOO MUCH EXPOSURE TO THE PHONE IS NOT A GOOD THING.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT YOU SHOULD, PARENTS SHOULD HAVE INPUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THEIR CHILD DURING AN EMERGENCY AND CONCERNS ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING LARGER DEBATE.

10 YEARS AGO WE WOULDN'T BE DEBATING WHETHER PARENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTACT THEIR KIDS WITH CELL PHONES IN A SCHOOL CLASSROOM.

I THINK THAT IS AN INTERESTING POINT THAT WE CAN ENGAGE MORE DEEPLY.

TO THAT ISSUE, SOME SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THEIR STUDENTS TO HAVE THEIR CELL PHONES IN THEIR LOCKERS.

SO THERE IS SOME SORT OF MIDDLE GROUND SO TO SPEAK WHERE PEOPLE CAN COMMUNICATE BUT NOT IN THE LEARNING SPACE PER SE.

>> IT WOULD BE NICE FOR A TEACHER TO HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE.

THAT'S THE ONE THING I THINK THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENFORCEABLE RULES, AND IT'S HAR FOR HARD FOR TEACHERS SO MAKING IT EASIER FOR TEACHERS FROM THE STATE LEVEL.

>> WE'LL SEE WHAT HOCHUL FINDS OUT ON HER TOUR AND IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE RESPONDS TO WHETHER SHE THINKS IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

IT IS TIME TO OPEN UP THE GRADEBOOK.

NINA YOUR F. >> A BLACK MAN FILED A CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUIT AGAINST A DETROIT HOTEL IN WHICH HE ALLEGES THE HOTEL OFFERED HIM A JOB ONLY AFTER HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO A TRADITIONALLY SOUNDING CAUCASIAN NAME.

ACCORDING TO A STUDY BY THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH, THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED EXPERIENCE.

NAME BIASA AS IT IS CALLED IS A PREVALENT ISSUE IN THE HIRING PROCESS.

WHAT HAPPENED TO DWIGHT JACKSON ALSO KNOWN AS JOHN JABROWSKI IS A REMINDER TO ALL OF US THAT RACIAL BIAS COMES IN ALL SHAPES, COLORS AND NAPES TOO,.

>> TY, YOUR F. >> TO EILEEN CANNON, THE JUDGE IN SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WHO THREW OUT TRUMP'S CASE THIS WEEK BECAUSE SHE SAID THE APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL COUNSEL IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

AND IT IS A LARGER POINT WHICH IS THAT JUDGES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY CONTINUE TO OVERTURN PRECEDENT AT AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE AND WE ARE NOT USING-- THE JUDGES ARE NOT USING PRECEDENT AS THE FOUNDATION AND LEAVING IT TO HIGHER COURTS TO CHOOSE WHAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

I THINK WHAT SHE DID WILL BE OVERTURNED ON APPEAL BUT IS IT IN TRUMP'S FAVOR NOW.

>> THAT WAS QUITE A SURPRISE.

>> ANIRBAN, WHAT IS YOUR F. >> MY F GOES TO THE HINDU RIGHT WING FORCES IN INDIA FOR PERSECUTING THE AWARD WINNING NOVELIST AND ACTIVIST FOR FACTUAL COMMENTS SHE MADE ABOUT INDIA'S GOVERNMENT AND VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE IN KASHMIR.

THIS DEMONSTRATES THAT CALLING A STATE OF UNFREE SPEECH IN INDIA BLATANTLY SHOWS HOW THE RULING PARTY AFTER SUFFERING SEVERE LOSSES IN THE LAST ELECTION IS GOING TO GO AFTER JOURNALISTS AND WRITERS.

>> THAT DOESN'T SOUND VERY GOOD.

BUT LUKE, TELL US.

>> MY F GOES TO THE SEVERE WEATHER WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING HERE AND THE RECORD NUMBER OF TORNADOES THIS MONTH IN NEW YORK STATE INCLUDING ONE THAT TOUCHED DOWN UP THE ROAD FROM ME IN ROME NEW YORK CREATING A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN ONEIDA COUNTY.

>> I THINK WHAT IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT IS THE RESPONSE THAT HAS BEEN AND A LOT MORE WORK TO DO IN ROME.

LET'S FIND SOMEBODY WHO DID SOMETHING WELL, NINA.

>> EVERY YEAR IN MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE SHADOWS OF THE CHICAGO HOUSING PROJECTS, WE TOOK FIELD TRIPS TO EXPERIENCE A CHICAGO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA PERFORMANCE AT ORCHESTRA HALL DOWNTOWN.

IT HELPED US TO APPRECIATE NOT NECESSARILY LOVE, CLASSICAL MUSIC AND OTHER GENRES OF MUSIC.

BUT ROME'S OPERA HOUSE HAS TOPPED THAT.

130 CHILDREN TOOK PART IN A SLEEPOVER AT AN OPERA HOUSE AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO HELP MAKE THEATER AND THE ARTS MORE ACCESSIBLE.

>> TY.

>> MY A GOES TO NATO.

WHICH JUST CELEBRATED ITS 75th YEAR ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED AFTER WORLD WAR II TO KEEP THE RUSSIANS OUT, THE AMERICANS IN AND THE GERMANS DOWN.

IT HAS SUCCEEDED BEYOND THE WILDEST DREEMSZ OF ITS CREATORS AND I HOPE THAT THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT NATO HAS KEPT THE PEACE IN EUROPE AND THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IN 204-9100th ANNIVERSARY.

>> GO AHEAD ANIRBAN.

>> MY A GOES TO THE SPANISH IRISH AND NORWEGIAN GOVERNMENTS FOR OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZING A PALESTINIAN STATE SAYING THERE WOULD BE NO PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITHOUT IT.

THE LEADERS OF THE FREE COUNTRIES SAID THEY HOPE IT WILL PRESS ISRAEL, THE PALESTINIANS AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY FOR A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE.

>> AND PEACE.

>> FOR ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE BROIRM BOILERMAKER INCLUDING OUR PRODUCER DOUG.

THIS IS A GREAT ANNUAL EVENT OF THE CITY THAT UNITES FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND EXERCISE AND CELEBRATORY EVENT.

FORTUNATELY THE WEATHER WAS FAIRLY GOOD.

IT WAS A LITTLE HOT.

KUDOS DOUG, GREAT WORK.

>> WE ALL CHEER ON DOUG.

WE TALKED A LOT OF POLITICS TODAY AND JUST THIS DAY IN HISTORY, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IN 1848, ON THIS VERY DAY, A BURCH OF WOMEN AND A FEW MEN GOT TOGETHER DOWN THE ROAD IN SENECA FALLS FOR THE SENECA FALLS CONVENTION, THE LAUNCHING OF THE WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE MOVEMENT.

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