♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON", REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS REACT TO THE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS AND THE START OF THE LUNG LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

ALSO TONIGHT, ARIZONA SECRETARY OF STATE ADRIEN FONTES RESPONDS TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S LAWSUIT OVER THE STATE'S REFUSAL FOR RELEASE VOTER INFORMATION.

AND WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A NEW BOOK WITH THE ENCOURAGING TITLE "LONGEVITY MADE SIMPLE."

THAT'S ON THE NEXT "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF ARIZONA PBS.

MEMBERS OF YOUR PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I AM TESTIMONY SAME YOUR HONOR.

2026 STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION KICKED OFF MONDAY AS GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS DELIVERED HER STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS, WE GOT REACTION TO THE SPEECH AND THE START OF THE SESSION FROM DEMOCRATIC LEADERS LAST NIGHT, TONIGHT WE HEAR FROM REMEMBER DAN LEADERSHIP.

JOINING US NOW IS SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM T.J.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN.

>> THANKS TO HAVING KNEE.

>> THANKS FOR THINK DOING.

>> ABSOLUTELY WE GET TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

>> ALL OVER AGAIN, YEAH.

JUST GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE GOVERNOR'S ADDRESS.

>> IT WAS A TALE OF TWO ADDRESSES, IF YOU WILL.

WE HAD SOME COMMONALITY I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THINGS LIKE THE COM RIVER, WHERE OBVIOUSLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON.

ARIZONA IS THE ONLY STATE OF THE SEVEN BASIN STATES OF THE COLORADO RIVER THAT REQUIRED A LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL TO ANYTHING THAT THE GOVERNOR ENTERS INTO.

SO THAT GIVES US AN OUTSIZED INFLUENCE AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER STATES.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE JUST GOING TO BE NONSTARTERS ON.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE AMOUNT OF FEES THAT WE HEARD.

WHETHER IT WAS ON SHORT-TERM RENTLESS AND DATA CENTERS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE PAREN WHERE TOPICS ESAs AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE KNOW WHERE THE GROUND RULES ARE, WE ARE FOUR YEARS INTEREST -- THIS IS OUR FOURTH YEAR IN A DIVIDED GOVERNMENT.

BOTH SIDES ARE ENTRENCH ODD WHAT WE WANT TO GET ACCOMPLISHED AND WE KNOW WHAT ARE NONSTARTERS.

>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NONSTART NEVER A SECOND HERE.

AFFORDABILITY SAN EMPHASIS HERE.

SHE TALKED BAY MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT A PARTIAL CONFORMITY TO WHAT THE TRUMP TAX BILL IS A ALL ABOUT.

YOUR THOUGHT ON PARTIAL CONFORMITY.

I KNOW REPUBLICANS ARE ALL FOR FULL CONFIRMATIVE S THERE MOVEMENT THERE?

>> WHAT YOU SAW INTRODUCED THIS WEEK BY THE HOUSE AND SENATE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IS A TYPE OF PARTIAL HYBRID CONFIRM AT THIS.

UNLIKE THE GOVERNOR, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GIVING TAX CUTS TO MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES WITH HER CONTINUOUS OF THE SALT DEDUCTION, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR PLAN THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY VOTING ON.

AND WE'LL HAVE A NOTE ON TOMORROW.

IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE FLOOR.

THERE ARE DIFFERENCES THERE WE BELIEVE THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE WILL HAVE THE MOST POSITIVE CHANGE ON THE TACK PAYER.

THERE WERE FORMS MAILED OUT TO THE VOTERS BY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE IT'S HARD TO MAIL OUT A FORM WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A BILL YET.

SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION THAT THE EXECUTIVE HAS GONE OUT AND SHOWN AND IF I WERE A TAXPAYER FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE I AM NOT FILING MY STATE TAXES UNTIL WE HAVE A CONCLUSION.

>> NO KIDDING.

CLEAR IT UP FOR ME.

SHE SAID SHE WANTED NO MORE TAX CUTS AND TAX BREAKS FOR CORPORATIONS AND HIGH WAGE EARNERS, YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT THAT EITHER?

>> WELL, THE PROOF IS IN THE PLAN.

RIGHT NOW IN OUR PLAN WE DO NOT INCLUDE A -- THE SALT DEDUCTION TAX, WHICH IS THE STATE AND LOCAL DEDUCTION.

WHAT THAT DOES IS FOR HIGH STATE TAX STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, AND NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, YOU ARE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND WRITE OFF YOUR STATE INCOME TAX -- OR STATE TAXES ON YOUR FEDERAL INCOME TAX.

WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S -- IT GOES TO THE HIGHEST WAGE EARNERS, WE WANT A MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT THAT WILL AFFECT THE MOST ARIZONANS THAT WE CAN IN A POSITIVE WAY.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO FULL CON IF YOU REMEMBER AT THIS, THOUGH, IS IT ALL OR NOTHING?

IS THAT A NONSTARTER THAT YOU REFERRED TO?

>> I BELIEVE WE ARE PUTTING ON THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAN THAT WE CAN GET 31-16O I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE EVEN MORE THAN THAT COME TOMORROW.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE GOVERNOR WOULD GO AHEAD AND SIGN THE BILL.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S HER PREROGATIVE TO DO SO OR NOT.

BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT KICK START TO THE CONVERSATION THAT I THINK THE WHOLE STATE OF THE STATE STARTED ON WHICH WAS TRYING TO DO THINGS TOGETHER.

WE'LL SEE TOMORROW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.

>> AND REAL QUICKLY, THE IMPACT OF CONFORMITY ON FY25, ON THIS FISCAL YEAR.

ON FISCAL YEAR 26 AND EVEN FISCAL YEAR 27.

WE TALK ABOUT NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH TAXES YOU WILL PAY.

DO WE KNOW HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THE BUDGET.

A LOT OF FOLKS ARE SAYING THAT'S A BIG HIT ON REVENUE.

>> IT'S GOING TO GO A HIT ON REVENUE.

HOWEVER, WE DO THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

THERE'S PROP 123 THAT WAS LEFT UNSOLVED FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK ON.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE THE VOTERS HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT THAT DOLLARS THAT COME BACK INTO THAT BUDGET PICTURE.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S LEFT.

ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE TAX CUTS THAT WERE PASSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL ARE CONTINUED ON AT THE STATE LEVEL.

SO THAT WAY THE MOST ARIZONANS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AND HAVE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.

>> YOU MENTIONED PROP 123, DOWNTOWN THAT TIED, DOWNTOWN THAT TIED TO ES As ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SUPPORT IS THERE TO DO SO.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE WHAT WE WANT IS SOMETHING CONTINUED OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

WE HEARD SO MANY DOOM AND GLOOM STORIES EVEN ON THIS PROGRAM, FORMER PRESSURES AND OTHERS THAT CAME ON AND TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WOULD RAID THE LAND TRUST AND THERE WOULD NO MONEY LEFT OF THE REALITY IS THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE WE HAVE PAID TEACHERS MORE, PUT MORE MONEY INTO K-12 EDUCATION AND MORE MONEY IN THE LAST TRUST THAN WE DID AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE AND WE CAN CONTINUE THE PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.

>> WE HAVE HEARD THE PHRASE WORD CAR PUT QUITE A BIT ON THIS PROGRAM WHEN IT COMES TO STATE LAND TRUST.

>> I AM CATHOLIC I ONLY HEARD THAT IN ONE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS.

>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT SHOW.

>> FOR SURE.

>> BACK TO PROP 123 IS IT A STICKING POINT, NONSTARTER IF THOSE FUNDS DON'T GO COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY TO TEACHERS?

BECAUSE DEMOCRATS WANT TO SEE IT GOING TO PERSONNEL IN GENERAL, REPUBLICANS SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS STILL WANT TO FOCUS TEACHERS.

>> THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS.

WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I HAVE BEEN AROUND THE PLACE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN WE HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON.

THAT'S WHY WE GOT A POSITIVE VOTE 10 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT TO THE BALLOT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE PUTTING THOSE DOLLARS TO THAT.

I WAS ON A SCHOOL BOARD FOR 12 YEARS.

IT IS A DIFFICULT POSITION, BUT WHEREVER YOU DECIDE AS A BOARD THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE TEACHERS THE PRIORITY YOU CAN DO IT.

>> MAKE THEM A PRIORITY, BUT DOES THAT MEAN EVERY LAST CENTS OR PRIORITY.

>> THAT MEANS I THINK THE ULTIMATE THING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT AS MUCH AS WHAT WE PASSED 10 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THAT'S A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

CONTINUES ON.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE GOAL OF WHAT WE HAVE SET FORTH FOR.

>> YOU REFERRED TO FEES EARLIER ON AND DATA CENTER FEES IN PARTICULAR HERE.

THE GOVERNOR MENTIONED.

SHE SAYS SHE WANTS THEM TO PAY, I THINK WAS IT LIKE $6.5 MILLION ANNUALLY.

SOMETHING A THOSE LONG THOSE LINES AND GET RID OF THE TAX EXCEPTION.

THE IDEA REGARDING DATA CENTERS AND WATER THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THE WATER THEY USE.

THAT WAS A QUOTE.

DOES SHE HAVE A POINT THERE?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THAT THE MECHANISM OF WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS PAYING FOR THEIR FAIR SHARE, BE REALITY IS, MANY PEOPLE WHEN IDENTITY BUCK ABOUT DATA SEND CENTER BEING TALKING ABOUT OLD TECHNOLOGY, THIS IS NOT 15, 10 YEARS AGO, FOR THE MOST PART THEY DON'T USE MUCH WATER THEY USE ELECTRICITY, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE.

BUT IT SEEM AS THOUGH THE GOVERNOR IS STUCK IN A TIME WARP OF THE OLD SCHOOL TYPES OF CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS ELECTRICITY OUTPUT.

>> INDEED.

KILLING THE EXISTING TAX EXCEPTIONS FOR CENTERS WAS 38.5 LAST GO.

THAT'S AMONG THE NONSTARTERS?

>> THAT IS AMONG THE NONSTARTERS WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY, IN FACT, WE BELIEVE THAT ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF OUR RURAL COUNTIES PARTICULARLY THE COUNT THAT I I REPRESENT PINAL, YOU HAVE MUNICIPALITIES ACTIVELY OUT COURTING THESE ENTITIES AND THOSE TAX EN SAFETIES ARE A BIG PART OF THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> ANY TOUCHING, ANY GUARDRAIL, ANYTHING TO LOOK AGAIN AT ESAs.

ARE WE TALKING NONSTARTER HERE?

>> THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

>> NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?

>> WE HAVE LITIGATED THIS.

NOT JUST WITH THE BILLS THAT WE DEBATED, BUT ALSO WE HAVE HAD THREE ELECTION, FOUR ELECTION CYCLES SINCE THAT PROGRAM WAS STARTED.

AND WE HAVE BEEN REWARDED WITH A LARGER MAJORITY AFTER THESE, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL IDEA OF SENDING YOUR CHILD TO THE SCHOOL THAT THEY ARE CHOOSING IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD INGRAINED IN ARIZONA SINCE THE MID 1990s.

>> PEOPLE ALSO UNDERSTAND A FUNDS THINK THE PROBLEM WITH HOW THESE ARE BEING USED BY SOME PARENTS AND PHONES OUT THERE.

THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO CRACK DOWN ON THAT.

>> THE REASON THAT WE KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS IS BECAUSE THE LAW IS ACTUALLY BEING USED IN A WAY THAT WE CAN EXPOSE THESE THINGS, THOSE FUNDS GET PULLED BACK.

THE IT'S WORKING THE WAY THAT IT IS.

DOES ANYBODY LIKE THE HEADLINE OF SEEING SOMEBODY GOING OUT AND BUYING A BOAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

PROBABLY NOT, RIGHT?

I KNOW I DON'T.

WE FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN AND ALLOWS FOR THAT PROSECUTION.

>> LAST QUESTION, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I DON'T MEAN TO RUSH YOU, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T WANT TO SAY THE SAME OLD PARTISAN GAMES.

THE SAME PARTISAN GAMES WILL NOT WORK THIS AREA.

RESPOND, PLEASE.

>> THE MY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE THEN WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT 10 OR OF THE SPEECH AND A DIFFERENT -- SOME DIFFERENT GOALS OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO LAYOUT.

THE REALITY IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HARMING ARIZONA FAMILIES WITH THINGS LIKE EXORBITANT FEES ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHEREVER A FAMILY MAY WANT TO TAKE -- THEY ARE NOT SAYING AT THE HILTON THEY ARE NOT STAYING AT THE MARRIOTT THEY ARE STAYING AT A HOME WHERE KIDS CAN BE OUT IN THE YARD WHILE THEY ARE IN COTTONWOOD OR SHOW LOW SOME PLACE WHEN IT'S 110 DEGREES.

NOT ADD ADDITIONAL FEES THAT GO TO PAY PEOPLE'S ELECTRIC BILLS WHO MAKE UP WARDS OF $110,000 A YEAR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SENATOR T.J., SENATE PRESIDENT PRO.

ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE.

>> YOU ABSOLUTELY.

LOOK FORWARD TO EN MORE TIMES THIS YEAR.

>> WE'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>> U.S.

JUT DEPARTMENT RECENTLY FILED SUIT AGAINST ARIZONA SECRETARY SECRETARY OF STATE ADRIEN FONTES AS HE REFUSED TO RELEASE STATE VOTER ROLLS.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE JOINS US NOW TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING KNEE.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE PAST HERE, LET'S REDO IT.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAYS GIVE ME INFORMATION, GIVE ME THE VOTER ROLLS.

YOU SAY NO, WHY?

>> THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THEM, FIRST OF ALL.

IT VIOLATES STATE LAW.

IT'S A CLASS,-6 FELONY TO HAND OVER SOME OF THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR.

IT VIOLATES THE PRIVACY ACT OF 1974.

NO ADMINISTRATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE REPUBLIC HAS EVER MADE THIS KIND OF REQUEST.

SO IT'S HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

IN FACT, IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

AND I AM CHARGED WITH KEEPING YOUR INFORMATION SAFE, THIS INCLUDES THE STUFF THEY ARE ASKING FOR, INCLUDING MONTH AND DAY OF BIRTH.

ANY OR PART OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS.

TRIBAL I.D.

NUMBERS, MOTHER'S MADE EN NAME.

FATHERS NAME.

ALL THE BIT AND PIECES ON THE INDIVIDUAL VOTER THEY ARE JUST NOT ENTITLED TO IT SO I AM NOT GIVING IT UP.

>> THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SEN SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE VOWING ARE TRULY REGISTERED TO VOTE AND SHOULD BE VOTER.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THEIR JUSTIFICATIONS.

THEY SAY THEY ARE DOING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.

HELP VOTER ACT.

VOTER REGISTRATION ACT.

THEIR JUSTIFICATIONS HAVE SHIFTED AND MOVED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THEM.

WE DON'T KNOW THEIR REAL MOTIVE.

THIS DON'T HAVE THE UNDERSTAND OR EXPERTISE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.

THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS.

WHAT THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO AND WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING IS THIS.

THE FEDERAL STATUTES THAT THEY ARE CLAIMING IT THEY HAVE AUTHORITY UNDER REGULATE PROCESSES NOT INDIVIDUAL VOTER RECORDS, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS PART OF THE LAW.

INDIVIDUAL VOTER RECORDS ARE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE STATES.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PRIVACY ACT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE STATE STATUTES AGAINST GIVING THIS STUFF UP.

WHAT WE ARE DOING IS INVADING INTO STATE TERRITORY, IF YOU WILL.

STATE LEGAL TERRITORY, STATE LEX ADMINISTRATION TERRITORY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS IN, WE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GIVE THE INFORMATION UP.

>> I IMAGINE THEY ARE SAYING TO YOU IN THIS DISCUSSIONS THE PROCESS IS WHAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON, BUT THEY CAN'T COMPLETE OF PROCESSOR ENSURE THAT THE PROCESS IS AUTHENTIC WITHOUT GETTING THAT INFORMATION.

>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE TRUE IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORKED.

BUT WE KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK.

IMAGINE THESE VOTER ROLLS, OKAY?

YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF FOUR NUMBER 1/2, 4.7 MILLION VOTERS ON THERE, SOME ACTIVE, SOME INACTIVE.

THESE ARE DYNAMIC LISTS THEY CHANGE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WE'VE GOT ONLINE VOTER REGISTRATION, REGISTRATION OWE MOTOR VEHICLE DEPARTMENT.

SHIFT FIGURE HANGING IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF HOW WE DO THINGS, THAT'S WHY THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

NOT TO MENTION ILLEGAL.

IF THEY WANTED TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY WANTED TO DO AND THEY KNEW HOW THESE MECHANISMS WORKED, AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT PROCESS.

NOT INDIVIDUAL VOTER RECORDS.

AND BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST THEM, AND I HAVE GOOD REASON NOT TO TRUST THEM, I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE UP ARIZONANS' PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION PARTICULARLY TO A GROUP OF FOLKS WHO WE KNOW DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP DATA SECURE.

THEY PUT 300 MILLION SOCIAL SECURITY RECORDS ON AN UNSECURED SERVER THAT ANYBODY COULD BUST IN TO.

I MEAN, COME ON.

THIS IS AMATEUR HOUR AND I AM NOT PUTTING OUR VOTER RECORDS OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY TO GET AHOLD OF.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> BACK TO THEIR ARGUMENT USING THE CYST RIGHTS ACT OF 1960.

THEY SAY THE ACT GRANTED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE POWER, SWING POWER I THINK WAS THE WORD, SWING POWER TO OBTAIN THESE RECORDS FOR INSPECTION, REPRODUCTION, AND COPYING.

>> THEY ARE WRONG AS TO THE PORTION THAT THEY DEMAND.

THEY MAY BE RIGHT AS TO THE PORTION THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN UNDER A REGULAR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

WHICH THEY HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR.

TO THIS DATE, TED, THEY HAVE NEVER BOTHERED TO SAY, OKAY, GIVE US THE STUFF THAT WARREN TITLED TO.

THEY HAVE NEVER ASKED.

AND THEY CAN GET YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION AND, IF THEY WANT TO RUN SOME CHECKS ON THAT, THEY ARE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO THAT.

THEY HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, DRIVER LICENSES NUMBERS, DATES AND MONTHS OF BIRTH.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED FOR US TO GIVE OVER.

I AM WONDER IF ALL OF THESE OTHER RECORDS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AND THEY COULD DO THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE WANT TO GO DO WITH THOSE RECORDS, WHY AREN'T THEY ASKING FOR THAT?

THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO INNOVATE YOUR PRIVACY.

AND THAT IS A REAL CONCERN OF MINE.

>> YOU SAID YOU HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM?

>> IN WRITING.

>> IN WRITING.

>> YEAH.

I DON'T CHAT WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

>> YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSES WITH THEM.

>> YES.

>> ARE YOU GETTING MUCH OF A RESPONSE?

IS THERE MUCH OF A CONVERSATION GOING?

IS IT JUST A COUPLE OF EMAILS OR MESSAGES PASS BACK AND WORTH?

>> THEY ARE WRITING US LETTERS SAYING THEY HAVE ALL OF THIS AUTHORITY THIS THEY DON'T HAVE AND WE ARE RESPONDING IN KIND SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SWING AUTHORITY.

THE OTHER THING, TOO, I AM AN ATTORNEY, WHEN I WRITE ADJECTIVES LIKE THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING.

THEY DON'T HAVE SWING AUTHORITY FOR ANYTHING.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE KIND OF OVERPLAYING THEIR HAND HEAR A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME OF THIS STUFF.

SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THE RECORDS, IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR IT'S VERY, VERY SIMPLE, IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR ME TO DO SO.

IT VIOLATES STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.

IT'S A HIGHLY UNUSUAL REQUEST.

I AM JOINED BY ALMOST TWO DOZEN OTHER SECRETARIES OF STATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SAYING, NO.

SO I AM NOT ALONE IN THIS FIGHT.

AND I DON'T TRUST THEM WITH YOUR DATA.

WITH YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBERS I AM NOT GIVING UP THE DATA.

>> LAST QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO HERE.

YOU SAY YOU ARE WILLING TO GO TO JAIL RATHER THAN TO COMPLY.

WOULD THAT MEAN THAT YOU GOING TO JAIL WOULD MEAN DEFYING A COURT ORDER?

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT?

>> IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE I THINK I WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT.

BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING, THEY ARE FLAT WRONG.

AND WE HAVE GOT SOME MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY NOW THAT ARE MAKING SOME REALLY WILD RULINGS.

IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO JAIL IF I GAVE IT UP.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN STATE COURT TO IMMUNIZE ME.

BECAUSE OF THE DUAL SOVEREIGNTY ISSUE.

THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO IMMUNIZE ME IN FEDERAL COURT, BUT I MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO JAIL ANYWAY.

SO I AM DAMNED IF I DO AND DAMNED IF I DON'T.

>> YOU GOT BARS ON EITHER SIDE OF YOU.

>> SO ALL I AM GOING TO DO IS SAY NO.

OF AND I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT ARIZONA'S PRIVACY INTERESTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO.

AND I AM GOING TO KEEP ON DOING IT.

>> ARIZONA 70 OF STATE ADRIEN FONTES, GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

>> I HYPE TO BE BACK.

>> YOU BET.

>> THANKS.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> A NEW BOOK SUGGESTS LIVING LONGER AND FEELING YOUNGER IS SIMPLER THAN YOU THINK IT'S TITLED "LONGEVITY MADE SIMPLE" AND PROMISES TO CHALLENGE EVERYTHING WE THINK WE KNOW ABOUT HEALTH, AGING AND THE FUTURE OF MEDICINE.

WRITTEN BY A BY A DOCTOR AND RICHARD CARMONA.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN, TED.

>> ALL RIGHT.

HOW SIMPLE CAN LONGEVITY BE MADE?

YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS SIMPLE.

JOHN GEVITY SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLICATED ISSUE?

>> IT SOUND MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT IS, THE REALITY IS YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A BILLIONAIRE BIO HACKER TO HAVE THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY AND PUT DOWN ALL THESE EXPENSES TO GET THE MOST BANG TO YOUR BUCK.

THIS IS A CULMINATION OF 20 YEARS OF MY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE AND TREATING PATIENTS AND TAKING A WHOLE PERSON APPROACH TO HEALTH WHERE WE LOOK AT THE SCIENCE OF END SO GENETICS MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH GENETICS BUT END SO GENETICS ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR GENES.

OUR ZIP CODE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GENETIC CODE.

>> HOW DOES IT AFFECT.

>> WHERE WE LIVE, HOW ACTIVE WE ARE, HOW SOCIALLY ISOLATED.

HOW CONNECT, WHAT WE EAST.

THE STRESSORS IN OUR LIFE, THE SOCIAL BEHAVIOR AND LIFESTYLE DETERMINATES ACTUALLY TURN OUR JEANS ON OR OFF FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.

YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THE GENES WE INHERIT LIKE HARDWARE AND THESE END SO GENETIC INPUTS AS UPGRADING OR DOWNGRADE ARE OUR SOFTWARE.

>> INTERESTING.

THE FIVE DAILY HABITS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK, THE ACRONYM IS DRESS, YOU CALL IT THE DRESS COAT.

D-R-E-S-S WHAT DO THEY STAND TO.

>> DIET, RELATIONSHIPS, EXERCISE, STRESS, AND SLEEP.

SO THESE ARE THE KEY END GENETIC INPUTS.

DIET IS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE RISK FACTOR FOR PREMATURE PREVENTABLE DISEASE.

THE STANDARD AMERICAN DIET IS PROCESSED FOOD.

WHAT I CALL FRANKEN FOODS, THAT'S A SOFTWARE DOWNGRADE IT TURNS ON GENES THAT CAUSE CANCER, DIABETES BEING ALZHEIMER'S IF WE SWITCH TO WHOLE FOOT DIET.

WHOLE PLANTS, WHOLE VEGETABLES, WHOLE FOODS AND HEALTHY FATS WE TURN ON THE GENES THAT PROTECT US AGAINST CANCER AND HEART DISEASE.

>> YOU ARE NOT JUST SAYING DON'T EAT THIS STUFF IT'S BAD FOR YOU.

YOU IRRELEVANT EAT THIS STUFF IT'S GOOD FOR YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY I AM TELLING YOU THE THINGS THAT YOU EAT AND SAYING THAT YOUR GREEN EXPRESSION CHANGES NOT IN A MATTER OF YEARS, NOT EVEN MONTHS, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE GENE EXPRESSION IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

IN THE SAME TIME THAT IT TAKES YOUR TASTE BUD TO TURNOVER IN FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE GENES AND TURN ON THE ONES THAT IMPROVE HEALTH AND LONGEVITY.

>> THE "R" IS RELATIONSHIPS.

>> YES.

SO CRITICAL.

SO UNDERESTIMATED BIG HARVARD STUDY LOOKING AT GRADUATES OVER 50 YEARS AND FOUND THAT THE SINGLE BEST PREDICTOR OF HEALTH AND HAPPINESS LATER IN LIFE WAS NOT YOUR CHOLESTEROL LEVEL.

BUT ACTUALLY WHETHER YOU HAD MEANINGFUL AUTHENTIC RELATIONSHIPS IN YOUR LIFE.

THIS COULD BE A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP OR JUST BE A CLOSE FRIENDSHIP.

A SPACE OF VULNERABILITY AND TRUST AND THAT ACTUALLY TURNS ON GENES THAT IMPROVE LONGEVITY.

>> EXERCISE, WE KNOW THAT.

EXERCISE IS ALMOST AN ILL I CANNER.

>> ANY MOVEMENT.

WE SEE IN THE BLUE ZONES WHERE PEOPLE LEVEL LONGER ANY MOVEMENT IS HELPFUL.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPENSIVE GYM MEMBERSHIP JUST WALKING FOR 35, 40 MINUTES A DAY, JUST BEING ACTIVE IS IT.

>> AND THE TWO ISs HE AT THE END STRESS AND SLEEP.

>> STRESS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.

SHORT-TERM STRESS LIKE A ZAUN ZAHN OR COLD PLUNGE CAN MAKE YOU MORE RESISTANT TO DISEASE AND HEALTHY.

BUT LONG-TERM CHRONIC STRESS CAN INCREASE CHRONIC INFLAMMATION, DOING PRACTICES LIKE YOGA, TAI-CHI, MEDITATION, MINDFULNESS STRESS-BASED REDUCTION, THESE CHANGE BRAIN STRUCTURES AND IN JUST EIGHT WEEKS AND HELP YOUR BODY COPE WITH STRESS OVER THE LONG-TERM.

>> AS FAR AS SLEEP IS CONCERNED.

>> IT'S ABOUT GETTING A CONSISTENT RHYTHM.

IT'S ABOUT GETTING ACCESS TO REAL SUNLIGHT EARLY IN THE MORNING TO RESET YOUR CIRCADIAN RHYTHM.

YOUR INTERNAL CLOCK AND HAVING GOOD SLEEP HYGIENE, SO THAT YOU ARE WAKING UP AND SLEEPING AT THE SAME TIME.

>> GOOD SLEEP HYGIENE, DOES THAT -- I AM ASKING FOR A FRIEND HERE.

DOES GOOD SLEEP HYGIENE MEAN WAKING UP WHEN ANIMALS WAKE YOU UP OR SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?

DOES THAT BOTHER YOUR SLEEP HYGIENE?

>> THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY.

IF YOU ARE GETTING REALLY GOOD RECOMMEND SLEEP THEN YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET WOKEN UP BY THAT.

>> BUT YOU ARE IF WOKE UP BY THAT YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

SO BASICALLY TYPE TWO DIABETES CAN BE REVERSED.

>> YES.

>> CORRECT.

>> YES.

>> YOU CAN LOSE POUNDS ARE NORMALIZE BLOOD PRESSURE ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU CAN DO.

>> YES.

>> FOR FREE.

>> THAT'S THE THING.

>> THIS IS FOR FREE.

>> THE THING IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OH, I HAVE DIABETES, HEART DISEASE, ALZHEIMER'S MY FAMILY THEREFORE I AM FATEED TO GET IT.

THE REALITY IS OUR GENES ARE NOT OUR DESTINY AND WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL OUR PATH.

AND SO IN THE BOOK, WE GIVE PRACTICAL AT THIS POINTS ON HOW TO DO THIS AND HOW TO ADD THAT INTO YOUR DAILY LIFE.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE MELTS THE ASPECT.

WHERE DOES WILLPOWER COME IN TO ALL OF THIS?

ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU NEED TO GET IT DONE.

AND YOU CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND EXPECT IT TO BE DONE TO YOU.

>> I THINK YOU NEED GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT.

WHICH IS WHERE THE FIELDS OF INTEGRATED MEDICINE, LIFESTYLE MEDICINE, WHAT WE ARE CALLING WHOLE HEALTH NOW, THIS APPROACH WHERE WE ARE NOT JUST GIVING YOU A MEDICATION OR SURGERY, BUT WE ARE PRESCRIBING FOOD AS MEDICINE.

PRESCRIBING EXERCISE AS MEDICINE.

AND THEN AS YOU ARE MAKING THOSE CHANGES, AND WE ARE HELPING YOU ALONG THAT PATH, YOU ARE ACTUALLY DEPREDESCRIBING IS MEDITATION BEING I AM TAKING PEOPLE OFF BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION THAT ARE AIR BLOOD PRESSURE COMES DOWN AND, TAKING THEM OFF DIABETES MEDICATION AS THEIR BLOOD SUGAR COMES DOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH THE DATA.

USING TECHNOLOGY LIKE CONTINUOUS GLUCOSE MONITORS TO SEE OUT YOUR ACTIVITY LEVEL.

THE FOODS YOU EAT AFFECT YOUR BLOOD SUGAR NUMBERS, REAL TIME YOU CAN MAKE THE CHANGES AND GET REINFORCEMENTS ON THIS.

>> AGAIN LONGEVITY MADE SIMPLE.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK.

BEST OF SUCCESS TO YOU.

AND THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING STUFF.

GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.

GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

THE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TED.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I AM TED SAME INS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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