
Republican National Convention Update, Melanoma affecting older Arizonans, Michael Grant
Season 2024 Episode 143 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The RNC opens this week, Arizona has high rate of cancer, Remembering Michael Grant
The Republican National Convention opens this week in Milwaukee. Delegates, must approve a platform and formally designate the presidential ticket: Trump and Vance. Recent data from the National Cancer Institute shows Arizona has a higher rate of melanoma than the rest of the nation. We are remembering former Arizona Horizon Host, Michael Grant. Grant passed away on July 15, 2024.
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Republican National Convention Update, Melanoma affecting older Arizonans, Michael Grant
Season 2024 Episode 143 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The Republican National Convention opens this week in Milwaukee. Delegates, must approve a platform and formally designate the presidential ticket: Trump and Vance. Recent data from the National Cancer Institute shows Arizona has a higher rate of melanoma than the rest of the nation. We are remembering former Arizona Horizon Host, Michael Grant. Grant passed away on July 15, 2024.
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THE LATEST ON THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION IN MILWAUKEE.
ALSO TONIGHT, CONCERNS OVER INCREASING RATES OF MELONOMA IN ARIZONA, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 50... AND WE'LL REMEMBER HORIZON'S ORIGINAL HOST, MICHAEL GRANT, WHO DIED THIS WEEK.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, O ARIZONA HORIZON.
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>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CONTRIBUTION OF FRIENDS OF PBS.
MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION, THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
PRESIDENT BIDEN TODAY TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID.
THAT WAS FIRST REPORTED THIS AFTERNOON BIT HEAD OF A GROUP THAT WAS HOSTING THE PRESIDENT FOR A SPEECH TODAY IN LAS VEGAS.
THAT SPEECH HAS BEEN CANCELED.
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PRESIDENT'S POSITIVE TEST INDEED OCCURRED AND SAYS THAT'S EXPERIENCING, QUOTE, MILD SYMPTOMS.
CALIFORNIA CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF TODAY BECOME THE MOST PROMINENT ELECTED DEMOCRAT TO CALL ON PRESIDENT BIDEN TO END HIS RE-ELECTION BID.
SCHIFF TOLD THE L.A. TIMES THAT HE CONSIDERS BIDEN AS, QUOTE, "ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENTS IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY," BUT HE ADDED THAT HE HAS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT BIDEN'S CHANCES OF DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP, AND A SECOND TRUM PRESIDENCY WOULD QUOTE, "UNDERMINE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY."
THIS AS A NEW SURVEY FINDS THAT NEARLY 2/3 OF DEMOCRATS SAY THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD STE ASIDE TO ALLOW THE PARTY TO CHOOSE A NEW NOMINEE.
THE NATIONAL AP-POLL FOUND THAT NEARLY HALF OF DEMOCRATS SURVEYED WERE NOT CONFIDENT THA BIDEN HAD THE MENTAL CAPACITY T BE PRESIDENT AND THAT ONLY 37% OF DEMOCRATS THOUGHT THAT BIDEN COULD WIN IN NOVEMBER.
AND, NEW POST-DEBATE POLLING FINDS DONALD TRUMP LEADING PRESIDENT BIDEN IN FOUR OUT OF SEVEN KEY STATES INCLUDING ARIZONA.
THE SURVEY SPONSORED BY THE TIMES OF LONDON AND A GROUP OF RESEARCHERS FROM ARIZONA STATE, STANFORD AND YALE FOUND THAT TRUMP IS AHEAD IN ARIZONA, WISCONSIN, GEORGIA AND NORTH CAROLINA.
THE POLL FOUND NO CLEAR LEADER IN NEVADA, PENNSYLVANIA AND MICHIGAN.
OVERALL, THE SURVEY SHOWS TRUMP FARING BETTER THAN POLLING IN THE SPRING.
THIS POLL WAS CONDUCTED AFTER THE DEBATE BUT BEFORE SATURDAY'S ASSASSINATION ATTEMP ON TRUMP.
COUPLE OF HEALTH NOTES, A NEW STUDY SHOWS THAT WOMEN WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS FACE A FOUR TIMES HIGHER RISK OF DEVELOPING OVARIAN CANCER.
ENDOMETRIOSIS IS ALREADY LINKED TO OVARIAN CANCER, BUT THIS NEW RESEARCH FOUND EVEN HIGHER CANCER RISKS FOR SOME SUB-TYPES OF THE CONDITION.
RESEARCHERS SAY THAT WOMEN WITH ENDOMETRIOSIS SHOULDN'T PANIC OVER THE FINDINGS BECAUSE, THEY SAY THAT OVARIAN CANCER ITSELF IS STILL RARE.
AND THERE'S A NEW STUDY EXAMINING THE EFFECTS OF PSILOCYBIN ON THE BRAIN.
THE STUDY LOOKED AT MRI'S BEFORE, DURING AND THREE WEEKS AFTER EXPERIENCING THE PSYCHEDLIC DRUG.
THE SCANS SHOWED THAT WITH PSYLICIBIN, THE BRAI DISCONNECT FROM ITS TYPICAL PATHWAYS AND RE- CONNECTS TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BRAIN.
THOSE NEW PATHWAYS MAY HELP EXPLAIN THE SUCCESS OF SOME PSYCHEDLIC DRUGS IN TREATING DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY DISORDERS.
PSYLOCIBIN IS ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW, BUT THE FDA HAS ALLOWED IT TO BE FAST-TRACKED I THE DEVELOPMENT OF PROMISING NE MEDICATION.
AND ONE MORE HEADLINE, LONGTIME VALLEY JOURNALIST JANA BOMMERSBACH DIED TODAY.
BOMMERSBACH WAS 78.
JANA BOMMERSBACH WAS A REGULAR ON HORIZON AND OTHER ARIZONA PB SHOWS, INCLUDING "BOOKS AND COMPANY," WHICH SHE CO-HOSTED I THE 1990S.
BOMMERSBACH WORKED FOR THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND AT NEW TIMES, WHERE SHE MADE HER MARK INVESTIGATING LOCAL ISSUES SHE ALSO WAS THE AUTHOR OF SIX BOOKS, INCLUDING AN ACCLAIMED TRUE-CRIME BIOGRAPHY OF WINNIE RUTH JUDD, THE TRUNK MURDERERS.
JANA BOMMERSBACH, DEAD, AT 78.
REPUBLICAN VICE-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE J.D.
VANCE IS SCHEDULED TO BE THE FEATURED SPEAKER TONIGHT AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION IN MILWAUKEE, WHICH HAS THUS FAR BEEN DEVOID OF MAJOR CONTROVERSIES AND DISAGREEMENTS AS THE PARTY COALESCES AROUND DONALD TRUMP.
FOR MORE ON THE CONVENTION, WE WELCOME CHAD HEYWOOD, HE'S A CONSULTANT AND FORMER GOP STATE PARTY EXECUTIVE-DIRECTOR.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
>> YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF UNITY RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE PLOT LINE, A LOT OF THE MESSAGES.
OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT CONTEXT THAN 2016 WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT INTO THE CONVENTION AND THE PARTY WAS DEEPLY DIVIDE.
TYPICALLY THESE CONVENTIONS, WE DO HAVE DELEGATES FOR A PURPOSE, BUT WHEN THE NOMINEE IS ALREADY DECIDED AND STRONG GOING INTO THE CONVENTION, IT'S MUCH MORE OF A THEME OF UNITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A UNIFIED FRONT.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME SUB-PLOTS HERE WITH THIS APPOINTMENT.
THERE'S STILL THE U.S. SENATE RACE.
THERE'S A MAJORITY LEADER RACE GOING ON UNDERNEATH IT, SOME DISAGREEMENTS WITHIN THE PARTY ON FOREIGN POLICY AND A FEW OTHER ISSUES.
BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A VERY UNITED PARTY AROUND THE PRESIDENT.
NOW, THE IDEA OF UNITY WAS OBVIOUSLY A THEME BEFOREHAND AND REALLY IT WAS ACCENTUATED WITH THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT OVERNIGHT WEEKEND.
ARE WE TALKING PARTY UNITY OR ARE WE TALKING NATIONAL UNITY?
BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
>> YOU'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
I THINK WITH WHAT HAPPENED SATURDAY, JUST TO ADDRESS, THAT IT'S UNBELIEVABLE TO ME THAT THAT JUST HAPPENED ON SATURDAY.
WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND 24/7 VIEWS, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.
AND SO WE ALL TALKED ABOUT TAKING A PAUSE, WATCHING OUR WORDS.
AND THEY'VE LARGELY DONE THAT IN SOME WAYS, NOT NEARLY AS PARTISAN, MORE FOCUSED ON ISSUES, BUT THIS IS STILL A PARTY CONVENTION, AND IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR.
IT'S ALSO A VERY BIG COUNTRY AND A BIG PARTY WITH A BIG TENT.
AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THAT AROUND THE PRESIDENT AND THE PARTY CONVENTION.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE TONE AND THE SUBSTANCE OF JD VANCE'S SPEECH TONIGHT AND THE PRESIDENT TOMORROW.
>> AND NOT ALL REPUBLICANS ARE THERE.
DAVID SCHWEIKER ISN'T THERE, JUAN ISN'T THERE, DOUG DUCEY ISN'T THERE.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
>> I DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO THAT, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY, FOR ARIZONANS, WE HAVE THIS LATE SUMMER PRIMARY, AND IT'S EARLIER NOW THAN IT'S EVER BEEN, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR REPUBLICANS THAT ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION TO STAY HERE DURING THE SUMMER DURING THE PRIMARIES AND CAMPAIGN.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS A GREAT LOOK TO SPEND SORT OF 3 TO 5 DAYS IF YOU'RE NOT AN ACTUAL DELEGATE VOTING WITH A PROCEDURAL REASONING OR YOU'RE THERE TO SPEAK.
>> SO YOU DIDN'T SEE A POLITICAL REASON IN THE SENSE I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO ALIGNED WITH MAYBE SOME VOLATILE RHETORIC THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF HERE?
>> I DIDN'T BECAUSE MANY OF US WERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTIONS.
WHEN THESE CONVENTIONS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I WORKED FOR THE PARTY FOR FOUR YEARS, AND YOU WERE STILL SORT OF MANNING YOUR POST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ELECTION.
>> INTERESTING.
DID YOU SEE CAROL'S ADDRESS.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT IN TERMS OF BORDER SECURITY AND THE DRUG AND FENTENYL PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE SAID ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A GOOD SPEECH FOR THE CROWD, FOR THE AUDIENCE.
>> WAS IT A GOOD SPEECH FOR THOSE IN ARIZONA WHO MIGHT STILL BE WONDER WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
>> WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING ISSUE.
TYPICALLY IN A BASE TURN-OUT ELECTION, LIKE A MIDTERM, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A REALLY STRONG ISSUE IN ARIZONA.
YOU'RE GOING BACK DECADES, RIGHT.
YOU CAN LOOK AT 2010, IT FLARED UP AGAIN IN 2018 WHEN GOVERNOR DUCEY RAN.
WHAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW IS THAT IT REALLY CUTS ACROSS PARTY LINES.
IT'S BECOME REALLY A TOP ISSUE NATIONWIDE.
SO TYPICALLY I HEAR A SPEECH LIKE TO AND THINK, OH, THAT'S A REPUBLICAN AUDIENCE.
BUT I THINK IT ACTUALLY CUTS ACROSS WITH INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
>> WITH THAT IN MIND DID SHE HELP HERSELF OR HURT HERSELF?
>> I THINK SHE HELPED HERSELF.
>> THE FOCUS -- I'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAY THE FOCUS IS ON DEMOCRATS AND WHAT THEY HAVE -- I THINK THE LINE IS, THEY HAVE TAKEN VOTERS FOR GRANTED.
I'VE HEARD THAT MORE THAN ONCE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
>> IT DOES BASED ON JUST THE RESEARCH WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS HAVE ACTUALLY DONE BETTER WITH CATEGORIES OF VOTERS TRADITIONALLY THAT HAVE BEEN ALIGNED WITH DEMOCRATS.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT INFLATION IN ISSUE, AND AS IMMIGRATION BUBBLES UP AND PEOPLE TIE THAT INTO ECONOMIC ACTION, THE PARTY IN POWER AND THE PRESIDENT RIGHTFULLY OR WRONGFULLY, THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE HEAT ON INFLATION IN AND THE ECONOMY.
AND EARLY ON IN THE PRESIDENT'S TERM, REMEMBER THE LEADING ECONOMISTS SAID SOME OF THESE SPENDING PACKAGES HAVE CONTRIBUTED SOMEWHAT TO INFLATION IN.
SO THERE'S SOME DATA TO SORT OF BACK THAT UP.
SO I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT NON-TRADITIONAL COALITIONS REPUBLICANS, THIS IS THEIR CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THOSE ECONOMIC ISSUES.
>> IS JD VANCE A CHANCE TO REACH OUT AND MAKE WHAT YOU WOULD DESCRIBE A BIG TENT EVEN BIGGER?
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT SELECTION?
BECAUSE AGAIN I'VE HEARD THAT SOME OF THE MEGA G.O.P.s ARE NOT ENTIRELY PLEASED ABOUT IT.
>> YOU'RE GONNA GET A MIXED RESPONSE, BUT IF YOU LOOK TRADITIONALLY AT THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL ROLE, THIS ROLE PLAY IS SORT OF AN ATTACK ROLE.
IF YOU LOOK TRADITIONALLY THEY'LL TAKE SHOTS, THEY'RE PUNCHING UP AT THE OTHER PARTIES.
J.D.
VANCE IS SHARP-TONGUED, HE'S VERY BRIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST MINUTES AGO, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IS GOING TO BE.
SO THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF FUN WITH THE CHAOS ON THE OTHER SIDE GOING INTO THE CONVENTION.
I WILL JUST SAY, THOUGH, PRESIDENT TRUMP -- POLITICS IS ONE PART POLICY AND ONE PART THEATER CAPTURING ATTENTION.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AN ENTERTAINER.
HE DID CAMEOS IN MOVIES GOING BACK DECADES.
HE HAD A BEST-SELLING BOOK.
HE HAD A REALITY TV SHOW.
AND JD ZERO TOLERANCE A BOOK.
HE HAD A NETFLIX MOVIE MADE HIS BOOK WITH BIG-NAMED ACTORS.
THAT MATTERS TO SOMEONE WHO CHECKS THE NEW YORK MEDIA MARKET AND FOLLOWS RATE UNCTION AND -- >> SO QUICKLY, BOTTOMLINE, DOES J JD VANCE HELP OR HURT DONALD TRUMP?
>> I THINK HE HELPS.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT, IF HE WANTS TO ROUND UP AND UNIFY THE PARTY WILL PROBABLY FIND OTHER APPOINTMENTS, CABINET PICKS.
YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK IN '16, HE ANNOUNCED THE TYPES OF JUDGES WEE SELECT, WHICH HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, TO APPEASE AND COMFORT CONSERVATIVE VOTERS THAT WEREN'T COMFORTABLE HIM.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THAT POST CONVENTION AS THEY LOOK AT POLLS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHERE THEY'RE WEAK OR WHERE THEY NEED TO ROUND OUT SOME OF THE MESSES THEY'RE -- SOME OF THE MESSAGES THEY'RE SHARING.
>> SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE AT THE CONVENTION ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH DONALD TRUMP.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR I SIGHT.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> IT'S IN OUR VILLAGE.
>> WE'RE ON THE PRECEDENCE OF A GREAT DISCOVERY.
>> DAVID.
>> WHAT'S HE DOING HERE?
>> DO I FIGHT THIS OR DO I GO HOME?
DATA FROM THE NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE SHOWS THAT ARIZONA HA A HIGHER RATE OF MELANOMA THAN THE REST OF THE NATION.
AND THE NUMBERS ARE ESPECIALLY CONCERNING FOR THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 50.
TONIGHT, WE TALK ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS AS PART OF OUR MONTHLY AARP SPONSORED SEGMENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS ISSUES IMPORTAN TO OLDER ADULTS IN ARIZONA.
JOINING US NOW DR. JORDAN ABBOTT, A DERMATOLOGIST AT THE BANNER MD ANDERSON CANCER CENTER.
DOCTOR, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
WHAT IS MELANOMA?
>> MELANOMA IS A TYPE OF SKIN CANCER, THE THIRD MOST COMMON TYPE OF SKIN CANCER.
YOU MAY HAVE HER OF BASAL CELL CARCINOMA AND MELANOMA HAS MAYBE GOTTEN MORE PUBLICITY BECAUSE IT CAN BE THE ONE THAT SPREADS INTERNALLY AND TENDS TO BE MORE SERIOUS.
>> HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM THE OTHER SKIN CANCERS?
PEOPLE GET THEM BURNED OFF, TAKEN OFF, WHATEVER.
THIS IS DIFFERENT BUSINESS.
WHY IS IT DIFFERENT BUSINESS?
>> SO MOST OF THE TIME, BASAL CELL CARCINOMAS ARE DETECTED AT A REALLY EARLY AGE, AND WE CAN JUST CUT THEM OFF OR BURN THEM OFF LIKE YOU SAID.
HOWEVER, FOR MELANOMA, ABOUT HALF OF THEM ARE DETECTED WHERE THEY'VE ALREADY SPREAD THROUGH THE TOP LAYER OF THE SKIN.
SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT MEANS THERE'S POTENTIAL TO SPREAD TO THE LYMPH NODES OR OTHER AREAS OF THE BODY.
>> SO IS IT A FAST TRACK TO THE LYMPH NODES?
IF YOU HAVE HAD HERE DOES IT IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE LYMPH NODES?
>> YOU KNOW, EVERY TUMOR WILL BE DIFFERENT, BUT YES, IT IS A DISEASE THAT CAN SPREAD QUICKLY, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE REALLY AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING THATLE DIAGNOSIS EARLY.
>> IS MELANOMA USUALLY FOUND IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE SUN?
ACROSS THE BOARD NOT ALWAYS, BUT MOST OF THE TIME, YES.
SO IT IS A CONDITION THAT YOU SEE ON AREAS THAT HAVE CHRONIC OR INTERMITTENT EXPOSURE.
IN SENIORS THE MOST COMMON LOCATION IS THE LEGS.
>> HOW DOES THAT DIFFER FROM OTHER SKIN?
CAN YOU TELL IMMEDIATELY THAT'S A PROBLEM?
>> YEAH, MELANOMA IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY AND IT'S THE DIAGNOSIS THAT KEEP DERMATOLOGISTS UP AT NIGHTS.
THERE ARE THINGS TO LOOK FOR, A DARK SPOT CAN DEFINITELY BE PART OF MELANOMA AND SOME DEVELOP A PREEXISTING MOLE, SO A SPOT YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD YOUR WHOLE LIFE AND NOW IT'S CHANGING VERSUS ABOUT DEFENDANT% ARE A NEW LESION APPEARING ON THE SKIN.
>> AND RISK FACTORS, UV RAYS, I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT GENETICS?
>> GENETICS DOES PLAY A ROLE.
ABOUT 10% OF PEOPLE WHO DEVELOP MELANOMA HAVE A FAMILY HISTORY, OR A GENETIC COMPONENT IS THERE.
WE KNOW THERE'S GENETICS AS FAR AS FAIR SKIN, LIGHT EYES, LIGHT HAIR, THAT PUTS THEM AT INCREASED RISK OF DEVELOPING MELANOMA.
>> AND THE INCREASE IN FOLKS OVER THE AGE OF 50, THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING LONGER, IS IT BECAUSE SCREEN HAS INCREASED AND IMPROVED?
>> YEAH.
GREAT QUESTION.
SO WE DO KNOW THAT MELANOMA IS INCREASING IN DIAGNOSIS.
WHY IS THAT HAPPENING, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE.
THERE'S A COUPLE HYPOTHESES LIKE WE DO HAVE NOW A LARGER POPULATION OF OLDER INDIVIDUALS.
ALSO, ONE OF THE DOCTORS THAT OFTEN ISN'T -- EVERY TIME YOU DIAGNOSE MELANOMA, YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE CANCER REGISTRY.
AND IN RECENT YEARS, THERE ARE BETTER REPORTING GUIDELINES.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A FACTOR.
>> AND LAST QUESTION HERE, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT THIS IS A BIGGIE.
SUNSCREEN.
WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR, WHAT DO YOU TRY TO AVOID?
>> GREAT QUESTION.
SUNSCREEN IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE SUN AND THOSE UV RAYS THAT WE KNOW ARE LINKED WITH MELANOMA.
SO YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR AN SPF GREATER THAN 30, YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR A BROAD SPECTRUM UVA AND UVB RAYS, AND THE THIRD THING IS WATER RESISTANT.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SWEATING IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE SO YOU WANT ONE THAT WILL WORK EVEN IN THE WATER.
>> ARE PEOPLE GETTING THE MESSAGE ABOUT THIS?
DO YOU THINK THINGS FINALLY TURNED A LITTLE BIT.
>> THERE IS DEFINITELY AN INCREASED AWARENESS.
I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FILED SOMETHING AT HOME AND COME IN TO GET IT CHECKED OUT.
>> AS FAR AS SUNBURNS ARE CONCERNED, IS IT EXPOSURE TO THE SUN OR DAMAGED EXPOSURE TO THE SUN.
>> IT'S BOTH.
EVEN WITH LITTLE BITS OF SUN EXPOSURE, THIS CAN HAPPEN, BUT SUNBURNS REALLY INCREASE YOUR RISK.
SO PREVENTION FOR CHILDREN AND AT LESS ENTERS IS SO IMPORTANT.
>> YEAH.
WELL, DOCTOR, SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT HERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHT, WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
ARIZONA HORIZON'S ORIGINAL HOST MICHAEL GRANT, DIED EARLIER THI WEEK.
MICHAEL HOSTED HORIZON FOR 25-YEARS, COVERING EVERYTHING FROM SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR'S SENATE CONFIRMATION HEARINGS TO THE AZ SCAM SCANDAL AND ALL POINTS IN BETWEEN.
WE REMEMBER MICHAEL GRANT WITH THIS INTERVIEW FROM 2011, WHICH CELEBRATED HORIZON'S 30TH ANNIVERSARY.
AND HERE NOW TO TALK ABOUT THAT HISTORY IS MICHAEL GRANT, HORIZON'S HOST FROM 1981 TO 2006.
IT'S GOOD TO -- WHO'S COUNTING?
>> THAT'S A LONG TIME TO DO ANYTHING.
>> YEAH.
THE VIEWERS THOUGHT SO TOO.
>> IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
30 YEARS.
>> YEAH.
>> LET'S TALK, WHAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND MORE HORIZON?
>> THE BASIC IDEA, THE STATION HAD BEEN WITHOUT A DAILY NEWS SHOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
THERE WAS -- I WANT TO SAY THERE WAS A WEEKLY NEWS MAGAZINE THAT RAN ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
CHUCK ALLEN AND BOB ELLIS HAD AN ABSOLUTE BELIEF THAT IN PARTICULAR A PBS AFFILIATE COULDN'T ESTABLISH A LOCAL IDENTITY WITHOUT A LOCAL NEWS SHOW.
SO IT WAS NEEDED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND THE OTHER PURPOSE THAT WAS NEEDED, QUITE HONESTLY, WAS WE -- YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, LONG FORM INTERVIEWING, ACTUALLY SPENDING SOMETHING MORE THAN FOUR OR 15 SECOND SOUND BITES WAS STILL PRETTY UNUSUAL.
THERE WAS THE REPORT ONLY ABOUT HALF-HOUR.
NIGHTLINE HAD JUST KICKED ON.
BUT THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
>> AND THEN THE IDEA FOR HORIZON, IT GETS ITS SHAPE AND THEY SAY, THAT MICHAEL GRANT GUY.
LET'S SEE IF HE'S INTERESTED?
DID YOU AUDITION?
HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?
>> THEY CONTACTED ME IF I RECALL CORRECTLY IN THE SPRING OF 1981, AND I HAD DONE SOME TV WORK FOR CHANNEL 8 IN THE 1970s WHEN I WAS IN RADIO, AND THERE WAS VERY SHORT LIVE SHOW I THINK CALLED ARIZONA INTERACTION THAT I'D DONE.
SO THEY CALLED ME AND ASKED IF I'D BE INTERESTED, AND I SAID, YEAH, SOUNDS LIKE AN INTERESTING THING.
I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN PRACTICE LAW FULL TIME AND DO FIVE NIGHTS OF TELEVISION BUT LET ME THINK ABOUT IT.
WE WERE MULLING.
IT WASN'T SCHEDULED TO START UNTIL THE FALL.
AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID SURE.
LET ME -- LET'S TRY IT FOR SIX MONTHS OR SO, AND THEN IT TURNED OUT TO BE 25 YEARS LATER.
>> IN THE BEGINNING, NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE -- BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT AS THE IRAN HOSTAGE SCANDAL CRISIS WAS TONIGHT LINE, BASICALLY SPAWN THAT PROGRAM, THE O'CONNOR CONLE FIRMS HEARING IF I REMEMBER QUICKLY PRETTY MUCH GOT HORIZON IF NOT UP AND GOING, CERTAINLY A NICE LEAD-IN.
>> NO DOUBT IT WAS A POWERFUL KICK-OFF AND WHOLLY QUINCE DEMOCRATS.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE SHOW IN THE BRING LOOKING TO START IT IN THE FALL THAT SANDRA O'CONNOR WOULD BE NOMINATED TO U.S. SUPREME COURT IN JULY.
QUICKLY IT OCCURRED TO MOSTLY CHUCK ALLEN THAT THIS WOULD BE AN IDEA, VERY HIGH PROFILE, AN IDEAL OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO WE WENT BACK TO WASHINGTON AND BROADCAST.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, TED, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT SUPREME COURT'S CONFIRMATION HEARINGS HAD BEEN BROADCAST BEGINNING TO END.
THERE'S CERTAINLY TELEVISION COVERAGE OF THEM BEFORE BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY COVERED, IN THIS CASE, IT WAS THREE DAYS OF THE CONFIRMATION HEARINGS.
>> AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, A LITTLE BIT OF A FIGHT WITH PBS ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY PROSPECT SURE THAT ARIZONA SHOULD BE DOING ALL THIS AFTER ARIZONA WAS DOING ALL THIS.
>> AND AZ ARIZONA ALSO THEY -- AND -- THEY WONDERED WHO THE YOUNG KID WAS AND WHY SHOULD IT BE PUBLIC.
IT WORKED OUT WELL FOR YOU AND FOR THEM AND WORKS OUT WELL FOR HORIZON.
25 YEARS OF HORIZON, FONDEST MOMENT.
>> BOY, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.
>> CERTAINLY THE O'CONNOR CONFIRMATION HEARINGS.
IT'S NOT A FONDEST BUT ETCHED IN THE BRAIN.
>> ANY STORES YOU FELT PARTICULARLY UNCOMFORTABLE COVERING?
ED IN MANY RESPECTS THERE WERE TIMES THAT I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A STORY.
IT ALMOST BECAME -- WRONG TERM, BUT SORT OF OPPRESSIVE.
THERE WAS SO MUCH STUFF GOING WRONG, SO MANY EASY SHOTS TO TAKE, TRYING TO AVOID EASY SHOTS, AND INSTEAD GET TO THE THING, AND JUST SIMPLY, ITS DURATION.
IT TAKES OFF EFFECTIVELY SEPTEMBER OF 1986.
DOESN'T WRAP UP UNTIL THE SPRING OF, WHAT, '88.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE CERTAINLY WASN'T A WEEK AND OFTENTIMES THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY DAYS WHERE WHEN THERE WASN'T SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, GOING ON.
SO -- >> ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT.
PEOPLE SAY I'M NOT TIRED OF THE STORY, WHY ARE YOU?
WELL, WE'RE DOING IT EVERY NIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> FAVORITE GUEST.
>> EWE... A LOT OF FRIDAY EDITION PARTICIPATES FOR SURE.
JOHN COLBY, ONE OF MY FAVORITES OF ALL TIME.
JANET BOOMERSBACH.
WILLIE BEFORE SHE FLED TO DALLAS, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ONES THAT -- I CAN'T SKIP HOWIE FISCHER.
>> SURE YOU CAN.
>> I INHERITED HIM FROM YOU.
YEAH, HOWIE'S GREAT, AND OBVIOUSLY A LIGHTNING ROD FOR PEOPLE WHO LOVE HIM, SOME PEOPLE DON'T LOVE HIM QUITE AS MUCH, BUT HE BRINGS GOOD INFORMATION.
>> ONE HARD-WORKING REPORTER.
>> YES, HE IS.
LEAST FAVORITE.
AND BE AS CANDID AS YOU CAN HERE.
WE'VE ALL HAD INTERVIEWS -- FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS IN RADIO, CHARLTON HESTON GAVE ME THE MOST ROTTEN INTERVIEW I THINK I EVER DID IN MY LIFE.
IT WAS ROTTEN BEGINNING TO END.
>> PAT PAULSON.
YOU KNOW, PAULSON FOR PRESIDENT, THAT KIND OF THING.
FOR SOME REASON HE WAS IN TOWN AND WE BOOKED HIM AND I THOUGHT MAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF FUN.
WELL, I WALKED IN THE GROWN ROOM, AND THERE HE WAS AND I SHOOK HANDS, A MIKE GRANT, BIG FAN, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOUGHT WELL, THIS POLITICS SHOW, SO WE BRING PAULSON ON THIS THING.
IT WAS THE LONGEST INTERVIEW IN MY LIFE AND HE WAS GIVING MAYBE THREE-WORD ANSWERS.
>> SO BEING PAT PAULSON.
>> WELL, AND -- IT SUDDENLY OCCURRED TO ME, I HAD READ RECENTLY HE BOUGHT A VINEYARD IN NAPA.
WE'RE ONLY ABOUT THREE MINUTES INTO THIS THING AND SCHEDULED IT FOR 10 OR 12, AND I'M DYING HERE.
SO I SAID, HEY, DID YOU JUST PICK UP A VENUE IN NAPA.
WELL, THAT JUST UNLEASHED THE FOR REBEL.
>> THERE YOU GO.
AT LEAST HAD YOU A WAY OF GETTING OUT OF THERE.
>> GOTTA ASK YOU, WHY DID YOU LEAVE?
>> OH, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE I'D BEEN DRIVING BETWEEN AT THAT TIME PHOENIX AND TEMPE FOR 25 YEARS FIVE DAYS A WEEK YOU KNOW.
CERTAINLY THE SHOW IS GREAT.
I STILL ENJOY DOING IT, BUT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN TIME I'M GOING TO NEED TO EXIT, AND WHAT THE HECK, MIGHT AS WELL BE NOW.
IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF -- THERE WAS A LOT OF AGONIZING ON MY PART BECAUSE I ENJOYED DOING THE SHOW.
BUT I THOUGHT -- YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THE CURTAIN DOWN, SO I THINK IT WAS TWO OR THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT.
>> AND TO DO IT GRACEFULLY, AS WELL.
>> WELL, I HOPE IT WAS THAT.
>> DO YOU MISS IT?
>> I DO FROM TIME TO TIME.
I WATCH YOU.
I WATCH OTHER PEOPLE.
I LOOK AT IT AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE -- >> YEAH, YEAH.
>> THAT KIND THING.
>> THROW THE SHOE AT THE TV A COUPLE OF TIMES.
WELL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
IT'S -- >> YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, SIR.
FOLLOWING YOU A DIFFICULT TASK AND I'M DOING MY BEST.
BUT GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.
GOOD TO SEE YA.
>> TAKE CARE.
>> AS WE SAID LAST NIGHT, MICHAEL GRANT, JOURNALIST, ATTORNEY AND GOOD GUY.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW, I'M TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
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