ANNOUNCER: Do you know what the inspiration was for the Heinz 57 Varieties trademark?

And do you know what rule of the road was first established in Pennsylvania?

Well, let's all find out as we play The Pennsylvania Game.

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Now let's get the game started.

Here's the host of The Pennsylvania Game, the woman who coined the phrase everything in moderation, especially moderation, Lynn Cullen.

[applause] Thank you.

Yes, that was me.

I did say that, everything in moderation, especially a moderate-- especially moderation because I am at heart sort of an immoderate type of person.

I suppose that will become relatively obvious as the show goes on.

Speaking of the show, let's meet our three-- I was going to say suckers, excuse me.

I don't know where that came from, excuse me.

Our three panelists, that's a correct noun, isn't it?

Scott Bruce is a seasoned Comedian and Actor.

Seasoned with what?

We don't know but we'll find out.

He's a native of State College, now living in New Jersey.

Please give Scott Bruce a warm welcome.

[clapping] And Sue McElwee is Senior Staff Writer and church page Editor of the Huntington Daily News.

Welcome, Sue McElwee.

[clapping] Our next guest has a contagious enthusiasm for life.

He's an Artist, a Sculptor, a Biologist, an Ichthyologist, a real outdoorsman.

Please welcome Bob Butler.

[clapping] All right, one of the questions might be, what the heck is an ichthyologist?

We'll find out later.

We always get ourselves in a pickle, or at least I do, on this program.

And since I do, why don't we start with a question about HJ Heinz?

ANNOUNCER: One day as Henry J Heinz rose an elevated train car in New York City, he noticed an advertisement promoting 21 styles of a certain product.

That advertisement became the inspiration for the Heinz 57 varieties trademark.

What did Heinz see as he rode that elevated train?

21 styles of, A, hats, B, shoes, C, sandwiches, or, D, spectacles.

LYNN CULLEN: Yes, spectacles.

Before we make a spectacle of ourselves, you all voted already?

Are you that quick?

We waste no time.

LYNN CULLEN: We waste no time.

Lynn, we're here to play.

All right, all right.

So, Scott, what did you pick?

Well, being the seasoned person that I am-- and by the way I'm seasoned with salt and pepper, in case you were wondering.

LYNN CULLEN: That's true.

I happen to think that we were talking sandwiches here.

LYNN CULLEN: Sandwiches?

I believe there were 21 varieties of sandwiches.

I can think of 21 right now, including my own personal favorite which is cucumber, roast beef, and cream cheese.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh my, I feel like I have to move on.

He picked C. Sue, what about you?

I picked C also but not because of the cucumbers.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, did you pick C too?

No, he who hesitates is lost.

I picked A because Heinz must have been a short man in looking at tall women with hats.

LYNN CULLEN: I guess I-- I think that's an ichthyologist thing.

LYNN CULLEN: Yeah, I think it is an ichthyologist kind of a thing.

My lord, I don't know.

We've got a C, a C, and an A.

Let's see if any of them know what they're talking about.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B, the advertisement that HJ Heinz saw that day promoted 21 styles of shoes.

HJ Heinz didn't sell styles in products but he did sell varieties.

And although he had well over 57 products in his product line, he liked the sound of the number 57, especially the seven because of what he called its psychological influence.

Interesting.

I wonder what psychological influence that was.

Anyway, OK, you all struck out on that so you're going to be playing catch up.

[laughs] Excuse me, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Excuse me, I'll move right on.

Listen up, listen up.

Next question is going to take us on the road.

And I think it's going to be a very bumpy ride.

ANNOUNCER: America's great move westward was aided by yet another Pennsylvania invention, the famous Conestoga wagon.

Built in 1750 near Lancaster, these early freight carriers generated such heavy traffic that the nation's first rule of the road was created.

Did the Conestoga wagon establish the practice of, A, driving on the right.

B, hand signaling before turning or stopping.

C, giving pedestrians the right of way.

Or D, keeping both hands on the wheel.

LYNN CULLEN: Just looking at those there's really only one of those that Pennsylvania drivers do anymore, and that's A.

Nobody signals, no one gives pedestrians the right of way, and nobody keeps both hands on the wheel because they have a car phone or something like that.

Have you voted?

Yes.

LYNN CULLEN: Yes.

Sue, what did you choose?

I chose, A, driving on the right.

LYNN CULLEN: Not because I said anything-- Heavens, no.

LYNN CULLEN: --it's certainly hopeless.

No.

But for the same reason, that's the only thing Pennsylvanians do.

[laughter] OK, Bob.

Well, these weren't Britons.

LYNN CULLEN: No.

And they were against-- they were anglophones, weren't they?

Therefore they drove on the right side.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, just to get back at the British, they said they do it on the left, we're doing it on the right.

The heck with them.

Well, I happened to have voted the exact same way, A.

But I thought it was an anti-communist thing.

[laughter] Go to the right.

Keep away from that wild left.

LYNN CULLEN: What's weird we're talking about rules of the road, what do we end up with?

AAA.

We've got that AAA, I can't believe it.

Let's see if that's right.

It's got to be.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, driving on the right hand side of the road.

By 1760, the brightly colored Conestoga wagons had become so numerous on the road from Philadelphia to Lancaster that they required traffic rules, and introduced to America the custom of driving on the right hand side of the road.

LYNN CULLEN: Say, isn't that interesting?

I once rode with those very Conestoga wagons.

I have to tell you something-- BOB BUTLER: You're not that old.

Well, I mean-- [laughter] --that's close, but not-- it hurts.

It's a bumpy-- you do one mile and, I mean, you feel it for days.

I don't know how those people did that.

I don't know how you do what you do either.

You stand up in front of lots of people and your life is in their hands.

It's scary, isn't it?

Hopefully there will actually be no bloodshed.

But it takes a lot of guts to do what you do.

Yeah, well, either I look at it it's either guts or stupidity, one or the other.

I haven't figured it out yet.

There's actually something called the professional comedians association.

You were the president it?

I was the president.

I was one of the co-founders of the organization.

And-- Can you imagine what the meetings would be like of his organization?

Well, it's kind of hard to get any business done, I have to admit that.

Interesting.

Sue McElwee, I've got all this stuff about you.

You're an organist, you're a journalist, and you collect them-- actually more people collect this than anything else, right?

You're a stamp collector.

Yes.

LYNN CULLEN: What do you call a stamp collector?

A philatelist.

LYNN CULLEN: A philatelist.

Yes.

SCOTT BRUCE: It's like an ichthyologist only different.

LYNN CULLEN: Yeah, I know.

Only a little different, yes.

OK, OK. Why do you do that?

It's fun.

Stamps are very beautiful.

And they're artistically designed.

When we put them on our letters, we usually don't think much about it.

But if you stop and take a look at stamps, you can learn a lot about history, especially if you collect commemorative stamps.

Just very interesting.

LYNN CULLEN: Bob Butler, I was listening to you talking before.

This is a terribly interesting man.

I don't even know where to start.

Somebody said ask him what he does first thing in the morning.

How you get your day started.

I start practicing my classical guitar before breakfast.

LYNN CULLEN: Before breakfast.

Oh, yes.

LYNN CULLEN: I thought you also walk before breakfast.

Well, OK, so I'm in receipt of a bunch of phony information.

You do your guitar, I like that better.

The guitar, that comes first and walk comes in the afternoon.

LYNN CULLEN: You've been playing guitar for how long?

Well, I found a guitar in a junkyard about 30 years ago and started teaching myself.

That was a mistake.

[laughter] I've heard you play very well.

How about let's get on the road again, OK?

On the road again for our next question.

ANNOUNCER: What road in Pennsylvania was honored by Car and Driver Magazine as one of the top 10 scenic routes in the US, and by the Harley-Davidson company as Pennsylvania's best touring road?

Is it, A, Pennsylvania Turnpike's Northeast extension.

B, interstate 79 from Erie to Mercer.

C, US Route 219 from Bradford to Johnstown.

Or, D, US Route six across the top of the state.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, a lot of you, I suppose, have been on all these roads.

I haven't been on one of them that I can think of.

What's the right answer here, bob Oh, it has to be D. LYNN CULLEN: It has to be D?

Oh, sure but I don't know.

LYNN CULLEN: Why?

Because that's-- you've been on it.

It's pretty.

--It's magnificent.

And it isn't well traveled so, therefore, it's nice for motorcycles.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, he says it's D. Sounds like he knows what he's talking about, doesn't he?

Well, I have to agree with Bob.

Having spent my entire life on the roads of Pennsylvania crisscrossing this state, going back and forth, there is nothing more beautiful.

You want to make this trip down Route six.

It is absolutely gorgeous.

If it didn't win, they're wrong.

OK, Sue, I hope you said D. It sounds like these guys know what they're talking about.

I did say D because I also have been on Route six, and it is magnificent.

LYNN CULLEN: I guess I don't know.

It must be D, route six, but we're supposed to go over here and find out first.

Let's find out.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, US route six, which goes through Potter County or God's country.

The route has two names as well as a number.

Route six was first called the Theodore Roosevelt highway.

And since the late 1940s, it's been the Grand Army of the Republic Highway.

LYNN CULLEN: Wonderful.

I'm taking a look at the scoring, you guys are doing really well.

It's a tie game.

Each of them two correct answers.

At this point in the game, extraordinary, two, two, and two.

[clapping] Uh, it's our first clue for the Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Listen to me.

Though she was born in Philadelphia, she was a native of the world.

As comfortable on a tropical island as in a New York penthouse.

Born in Philadelphia, a native of the world.

Comfortable on a tropical island, but also in a New York penthouse.

It's not the little mermaid, I'll give you that clue.

It's not the little mermaid.

You think about that.

If you get it on the first one, you get three whole points.

And I'll give you two more clues as the program progresses.

And it's progressing right now.

This next question is all wet, so let's dive in.

ANNOUNCER: Five gallons, in 1900 that's how much water each of Pennsylvania's six million citizens use daily.

By 1990, there were 12 million citizens in Pennsylvania.

What was their average per capita use of water per day?

Was it, A, 20 gallons.

B, 60 gallons.

C, 80 gallons.

Or D, 120 gallons.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, in 1990, the average per capita use of water per day in Pennsylvania 20, 60, 80, or 120?

This is one of those things that makes you start thinking about how often you turn on a tap.

Scott.

Yes, I voted for B at 60 gallons.

And I'd like to give my reasons.

It's a blind guess.

[laughter] LYNN CULLEN: That's the reason, huh?

I know I didn't drink 60 gallons today but you know.

LYNN CULLEN: You might have used 60 gallons.

Think about it, it was a long shower you took this morning.

Sue.

I chose C, 80 gallons, because I think we are very wasteful of water.

But I don't think we go quite to 120 gallons.

But it's only a guess.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, I agree we're wasteful.

Bob, how wasteful are we?

I diddle that.

I diddle that.

LYNN CULLEN: Diddle that, OK.

He says 80.

We've got one 60, two 80s.

And we do, in fact, have a correct answer here.

Let's find out which one it is.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C. On average each Pennsylvania uses more than 80 gallons of water per day.

We take long showers, lounge in overfull baths, compulsively wash our clothes and cars, and over-water our lawns.

But flushing the toilet accounts for 41% of all home water use, more than any other single activity.

Bathing and hygiene is second, accounting for 37%.

Water, water everywhere.

Woo, woo, woo, that's really not good news to hear about.

The average family in Pennsylvania turns the tap on 70 to 100 times per day.

Try to get a handle on that, will you?

My heavens.

Columbia is a word that's the cornerstone of our next question.

It's a word that gets around.

It's in the ocean, Columbia the gem of the ocean, it's in South America, it's a country.

And as I said, it's right here.

Take a look.

ANNOUNCER: Art wasn't the only thing on display at the 26th Annual Central Pennsylvania Festival of the Arts.

The Columbia, which is the nation's first of its kind, was also showcased at the Center County Arts Festival.

What is the Columbia?

Is it, A, miniature space shuttle.

B, natural gas powered transit bus.

C, an interactive classroom textbook.

Or D, virtual reality driver's education car.

LYNN CULLEN: Virtual reality, I keep hearing that a lot.

I'm not even sure what that is, but that's one of the possibilities.

A virtual reality driver's education car or three other possibilities.

Boy, you guys are quick.

I'm impressed.

Sue, what'd you vote for?

I voted for the natural gas powered transit bus.

I believe that one of the first ones here is in State College.

And there's also a Columbia gas company.

And I put the two together.

I think you guys are too smart for us.

I'm going home.

Bob.

She and I run in the same rut.

LYNN CULLEN: I don't know what that means.

[laughter] Save it for later.

What did you pick?

The same one.

LYNN CULLEN: B, yeah, he did.

He did.

I don't know.

What about you?

SCOTT BRUCE: Any time I get a chance to vote for natural gas, I do.

B. LYNN CULLEN: B. OK. Gee, we had the AAA before, now we got the better bzbz bureau.

Let's find out if they know what they're talking about.

I think they do.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B.

In 1990, Columbia gas introduced the Columbia, the first transit bus designed and built to run exclusively on natural gas.

The bus was on loan to the Center Area Transit Authority, and showcased during the 1992 Arts Festival.

Thousands of visitors to the five day event enjoyed the so-called clean ride.

Natural gas powered vehicles produce only a fraction of the pollution of gasoline and diesel powered vehicles.

LYNN CULLEN: This could turn out being the highest scoring game ever in the history of The Pennsylvania Game.

We right now have Sue and Bob with four points, Scott with three.

And they are burning things up.

[clapping] OK, here is our second clue for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

The world was her laboratory, and the focus of her life's work was on matters of gender and women and children.

The world was her laboratory, and the focus of her life's work was on matters of gender and women and children.

Born in Philadelphia, native of the world.

Comfortable on a tropical island, comfortable in a New York penthouse.

I feel you.

Isn't it maddening when you know you know and you can't quite get your hands around the-- how are you doing at home?

You know it, you know it, you know it.

I know it but, of course, I'm sitting here staring right at it.

Let's get on with the game.

Oh, this one I love.

It's for the birds.

ANNOUNCER: An unusually high concentration of a particular species of bird can be found at Gettysburg National Military Park.

What kind of bird is it?

A, vultures, B, turkeys, C, woodpeckers, or, D, golden eagles.

LYNN CULLEN: What kind of bird is it, panel?

It's-- LYNN CULLEN: Wait a minute, wait a minute.

He hasn't voted yet here, it's, it's, it's.

OK, Bob, what is it?

It's the vulture which occurred during the Gettysburg battle.

And ever since that battle, they have returned in great numbers to the Gettysburg.

LYNN CULLEN: I guess it makes sense, doesn't it?

Scott.

It may sound very believable to me, and it makes me think that I'm now my own choice.

I chose turkeys.

[laughter] LYNN CULLEN: Sue.

I chose turkeys also.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, OK, OK, well, he's not alone.

He's not alone.

Let's take a look at the answer.

The answer is, A, vultures.

The South Mountain chapter of the Audubon Society counts on average 600 to 700 black and turkey vultures at their annual Christmas count.

The vultures can be found each winter roosting on the West slope of the big roundtop, a hill located within the National Military Park.

The vulture population peaks in mid-winter and thins out again each summer.

The population is unusual because Gettysburg is near the northernmost end of the vulture's winter range.

It has been speculated that the high concentration of vultures is due, at least in part, to the three day battle of Gettysburg back in July of 1863.

The fighting left more than 3,000 dead horses on the battlefield.

OK, vultures, by the way, have gotten a bad rap there.

They're very sociable animals-- social animals.

They take care of their young and they floss three times a day.

[laughter] Let's go to our next question.

ANNOUNCER: In 1963, Pennsylvania passed legislation to establish a State Railroad Museum to show the development of rail transportation in Pennsylvania.

Where is the State Railroad Museum located?

Is it in, A, Strasburg.

B, Altoona.

C, Pittsburgh.

Or, D, Philadelphia.

LYNN CULLEN: A very direct straightforward kind of a question.

Where does the State Railroad Museum located?

Have you all voted?

Scott.

Well, I went with Strasburg because I was there once and I thought I saw something like that.

Although it makes sense that it would be in one of the larger cities.

But I like Strasburg so I'm voting for it.

Because if there's anybody out there, they should have their town voted for.

LYNN CULLEN: Indeed, indeed.

You Strasburgeons, he's voting for you.

Sue.

I voted for Strasburg because Altoona was so disappointed it didn't get it.

LYNN CULLEN: Huh, interesting.

Bob.

BOB BUTLER: I voted for Strasburg also.

And Altoona is presently considering a museum, so-- of railroad-- LYNN CULLEN: And we'll get-- these guys know too much.

Who picked this panel?

My lord, they're smarter than my cards here.

Let's get the answer.

BOB BUTLER: Political.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is, A, Strasburg.

Located in Lancaster County, the museum's main attraction is its collection of 65 locomotives, including a fully operable replica of John Bull, the world's oldest locomotive.

Yeah, the railroaders' Memorial Museum is in Altoona.

Established in 1980.

It focuses on the men and women who are working on the railroad.

Here's our next question.

It's about my absolutely favorite person.

I really have had a crush on him for years even though he's been dead for years too, but what the heck.

ANNOUNCER: Benjamin Franklin had two legitimate sons by his wife Deborah.

One died at the age of four.

The other son, William, was with Franklin in 1752 when he flew the famous kite.

But William, who was the last royal governor of New Jersey before the revolution, did something that caused Ben Franklin to all but disown him.

What was it?

Did William, A, embezzle money from his father?

B, side with the British during the revolution.

C, have an affair with a married woman.

Or, D, publicly criticize his mother.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, they're laughing at some of those but I don't know if it was so funny.

OK, Ben Franklin, I really-- I do, I think he's just the greatest character in American history.

Sue, what do you think, though?

What would have done this-- made trouble between him and his son?

I think that B, siding with the British, I think that would have been a blow-- LYNN CULLEN: I would imagine.

--to Ben.

LYNN CULLEN: Yeah, I would think so, a blow to Ben, yes.

BOB BUTLER: Well, he wrote an essay on why a man should choose an elderly woman for a mistress, so I knew it wouldn't be C. I decided on D. LYNN CULLEN: You're right.

It's a great essay too.

One that we could talk about it here but it's a family show, we cannot.

Scott.

I went with B as well, although I think he would have been just as upset if he'd had an affair with a British woman.

But I don't know.

LYNN CULLEN: Look at you guys.

My heavens, of one mind are they.

And are they right again?

ANNOUNCER: The answer is B.

When the Revolutionary War broke out, William sided with the British.

He was tried as a trader and imprisoned until 1782, and then deported to England where he remained for the rest of his life.

But in 1784, after receiving overtures toward reconciliation from his son, Franklin wrote to him.

"Nothing has ever hurt me so much as to find myself deserted in my old age by my only son.

And not only deserted, but to find him taking up arms against me in a cause wherein my good fame, fortune, and life were all at stake.

We will endeavor as you propose, mutually to forget what has happened."

LYNN CULLEN: And here is our final clue, and for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Her books became bestsellers and she herself became famous.

To quote one of her biographers, "She made a living writing down people's answers to nosey questions asked in improbable places.

She made a living writing down people's answers to nosey questions asked in improbable places.

Comfortable on a tropical Isle, comfortable in a New York penthouse.

Focused on gender and women and children.

Bob looks stumped over there and I love it because he's known every answer.

Could we stump him on this one?

I don't know.

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.

Bob, did you write anything down there?

At two I said she was an artist.

That's-- LYNN CULLEN: But you don't have any names.

But I don't have any names.

LYNN CULLEN: You've drawn a blank.

I have drawn a blank.

What about you, sir?

Hold that up.

I'm most definitely went with Minnie Mouse as my last choice.

If there's somebody out there that has a clue, please, call in the show because I don't even have a guess as to who this woman is.

LYNN CULLEN: He started with Amelia Earhart and it ended up with Minnie Mouse.

Sue, come on, do you know who this woman is?

I don't know for sure but my thinking went from Mary Martin since she was comfortable on an island and all, into Margaret Mead, and then finally to Pearl Buck.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, I don't know if you get credit for Pearl-- for Margaret Mead because then you wrote Pearl Buck, but you were right the second time with-- oh I'm giving it away and I'm not supposed to do that.

Let's go find out that it was Margaret Mead.

ANNOUNCER: Margaret Mead was born in Philadelphia in 1901, and came to be known as one of the world's foremost anthropologists.

She became famous for her studies of the cultures of the Pacific Islands.

Coming of age in Samoa, her first and most famous book made Mead an immediate celebrity and introduced anthropology-- the science of man-- to ordinary people.

That many say was among her greatest achievements.

She was married three times, had one child and countless intense friendships.

She died of pancreatic cancer in 1978 at the age of 77.

She felt, as did hundreds who mourned her death, that she died before her time.

Margaret Mead, a famous Pennsylvanian.

Indeed, a famous Pennsylvanian but you wouldn't know it by listening to these guys.

Minnie Mouse indeed.

She made a brilliant biologist, though.

That was one of her marriages.

You guys were out of this world.

You were simply wonderful.

Bob you end in the lead with seven.

And you get a Penn pack as a result as our gift.

[clapping] Thank you, all.

You were wonderful.

Thanks to you, audience.

You've been fantastic.

And thank you so much at home for playing along with us.

And hope you join us next week when we again play The Pennsylvania Game.

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