♪ ♪ >> COMING UP NEXTS ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

DETAILS ON THE CITY OF PHOENIX ASKING VOTERS TO APPROVE A $500 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.

ALSO TONIGHT, A BREAK-THROUGH IN RSV RESEARCH AS LOCAL SCIENTISTS DISCOVER GENETIC MUTATIONS IN THE VIRUS.

AND A NEW BOOK LOOKS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BASKETBALL AND FASHION.

THE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMON.

AS WE RECORD TONIGHT'S PROGRAM, THERE STILL IS NO SPEAKER OF THE U.S. HOUSE.

EARLIER TODAY OHIO REPUBLICAN JIM JORDAN SAID THAT HE WOULD SUSPEND HIS EFFORTS TO BECOMER AND INSTEAD ENDORSE AN INTERIM LEADER BUT HOURS LATER JORDAN REVERSED HIMSELF.

>> WE MADE THE PITCH TO MEMBERS ON THE RESOLUTION AS A WAY TO LOWER THE TEMPERATURE AND GET BACK TO WORK.

WE DECIDED THAT WASN'T WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.

I'M STILL RUNNING FOR SPEAKER AND PLAN TO GO TO THE FLOOR AND GET THE VOTE AND WIN THIS RACE BUT I WANT TO TALK WITH A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES, PARTICULARLY I WANT TO TALK TO THE 20 INDIVIDUALS WHO VOTED AGAINST ME SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND BEGIN TO WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> JORDAN SO FAR HAS LOST TWO VOTES AND REPUBLICANS WHO HOLD THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE HAVE BEEN INCAPABLE OF ELECTING A LEADER.

FORMER SPEAKER CAM MCCARTHY SAYS THAT HAS TO CHANGE.

>> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE GOVERNMENT IS STILL RUN.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING A RESOLUTION ON THE FLOOR IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL.

I HAVE A 5 POINT PLAN TO SUPPORT ISRAEL BUT THE QUESTION IS YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU ELECT A SPEAKER AND APPARENTLY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VOTES TO ELECT A SPEAKER.

>> OTHER HEADLINES, FORMER TRUMP LEGAL ADVISER SYDNEY POWELL TODAY PLEADED GUILTY TO SIX MISDEMEANOR COUNTS TO FOR DONALD TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION.

HE WAS SENTENCED TO SIX YEARS PROBATION SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT HE FACED ON THE ORIGINAL CHANCE, AND PLEADING GUILTY POWELL AGREED TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE REMAINING DEFENDANTS IN THE CASE INCLUDING TRUMP.

THE U.N.

WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT FOR HUMANITARIAN AID ENTERING GAZA THROUGH A CROSSING THAT EGYPT HAS KEPT CLOSED.

UNDER THE AGREEMENT THE U.N.

FLAG WOULD BE RAISED AND INTERNATIONAL OBSERVERS WOULD INSPECT TRUCKS BEFORE ENTERING GAZA.

NO COMMENT YET ONE GYPS OR ISRAEL.

>>> A NEW STUDY SHOWS EATING RED MEAT INCREASES THE RISK OF DEVELOPING DIABETES LATER IN LIFE.

THE STUDY FOUND THAT THOSE ATE RED MEAT THE MOST HAVE A 62% HIGHER RISK OF DEVELOPING TYPE II DIABETES.

PEOPLE WHO SWAPPED RED MEAT FOR NUTS AND VEGETABLES, THEY HAD A 30% REDUCED RISK.

RESEARCHERS EMPHASIZE THE STUDY SHOWS A LINK BETWEEN RED MEAT AND ADULT ONSET OF DIABETES, NOT NECESSARILY A DIRECT CORRELATION.

>>> AND SCIENTISTS SAY THEY HAVE DISCOVERED A JETSTREAM ON JUPITER.

THE JETSTREAM STRETCHING MORE THAN 3,000 MILES AND TRAVELING AT ABOUT 320 MILES PER HOUR OR TWICE THE STRENGTH OF A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE.

A PHOTO OF JUPITER WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN LAST YEAR BUT SCIENTISTS RECENTLY USED DATA FROM THE SPACE TELL SCOPE DISCOVER THE JETSTREAM.

>>> THE CITY OF PHOENIX WILL BE HOLDING A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ELECTION NEXT MONTH.

IT'S THE CITY'S FIRST SUCH ELECTION IN 16 YEARS AND WILL ASK VOTERS TO APPROVE FUNDING FROM EVERYTHING FROM NEW FIRE STATIONS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE TO PREVENT FLOODING.

THE NATION'S COUNCILWOMAN IS CARRYING THE ELECTION'S CAMPAIGN.

GOOD TO SIGH.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> WHY ARE YOU CHAIRING THIS CAMPAIGN?

>> IT'S MUCH-NEEDED INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY AND I JUST CAME OFF AN ELECTION MYSELF AND FIGURED I COULD LEND MY TALENTS TO HELPING ENSURE THESE MEASURES PASS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY.

>> AT FIRST THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SINCE 2006, LONGER THAN I SAID.

WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

>> ONE OF THE FACTOR THAT WAS PLAYED INTO SIGNIFICANCE WAS ACTUALLY WE HAD A MILD RECESSION AND FINANCIAL COMPONENT TO IT.

SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT THE TIME GO AHEAD AND PASS THE CITY -- RESIDENTS TO APPROVE BOND MEASURE.

>> AND THIS IS A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.

DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

>> IT'S A FINANCIAL TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO GO INTO THE PRIVATE MARKET, SELL THE BOND FOR THE CAPITAL THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE NEED, AND THE FINANCIAL -- THE BONDS ARE THEN BACKED BY INVESTMENTS OF OUR REVENUES FROM OUR PROPERTY TAXES.

>> SO BASICALLY THE TAXES DON'T NECESSARILY GO UP.

500 MILLION WAS PRETTY MUCH AS HIGH AS COULD YOU GO WITHOUT RAISING TAXES?

>> CORRECT.

WE HAD THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY COMMITTEE LOOK AT WHAT IT IS THAT WE COULD BORROW WITHOUT RAISING OUR TAXES.

$500 MILLION WAS THE AMOUNT THAT THEY DETERMINED THAT ABSENCE OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AND WOULD NOT INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX.

>> I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S BACKED BY THE SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX.

>> CORRECT.

IT RUNS AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD ABOUT 6 CENT AS DAY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT THAT ALL FIGURED OUT.

>> WHAT'S IT GOING TO GO FOR?

>> THERE WERE EIGHT SUBCOMMITTEES THAT GOT DETERMINED -- GOT TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PROJECTS WOULD LIKE.

BUT THEY FALL UNDER FOUR MAIN MEASURES YOU'LL SEE ON THE BALLOT.

YOU'LL SEE COMMUNITY SAFETY, AFFORDABLE HOUSES, YOU'LL SEE PARKS AND INVESTMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> AND AS FAR AS YOUR DISTRICT IS CONCERNED, DISTRICT 8 HERE, WHAT STANDS OUT TO YOU.

WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SNOW.

>> WELL, IT'S A COMBINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES BASED IN OUR CITY IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE, AND WITH THE BOND MEASURE WE WILL SEE INCREASED FUNDING FOR THE EAST LAKE CHOICE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM.

SO THAT HELPS US BRING SOME MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONLINE.

>> AND I NOTICED FOUR NEW FIRE STATIONS OVERALL, A COUPLE OF POLICE STATIONS RENOVATED.

ENERGY-EFFICIENT UPDATES AT CITY FACILITIES.

TALK TO BUS THAT.

>> WELL, THE CITY, WE ALL REALIZE THAT THE ENERGY STRAINS WE USE ARE NO DIFFERENT AND WE THINK THAT WE'RE ASKING OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE CHANGES TO HELP BE MORE WATER EFFICIENT, ENERGY-EFFICIENT, AND WE SHOULD BE LEADING BY EXAMPLE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY FACILITIES ALSO MEET THE HIGHER STANDARD.

>> HOW MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NEW AND IMPROVED AND INTO THE FUTURE, AND HOW MUCH IS FIXING OLDER STUFF THAT NEEDS RENOVATION?

>> th REALLY A BALANCED PROGRAM.

IT HAS WHERE WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE -- LONG AND OUTSTANDING NEEDS AND SOME OF THEM ARE HELPING US MOVE FORWARD.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD BALANCE IN THAT COMPONENT.

>> LIBRARIES, PARKS, POOLS?

THESE SORTS OF THINGS, AS WELL?

>> YES.

JUST ABOUT EVERY DISTRICT YOU'LL SEE ONE NEW PARK WITH SOME IMPROVED AMENITIES FROM POOLS, SPLASH PAD AND WE'RE PROVIDING SOME FUN SO YOU CAN MAKE THOSE NECESSARY REPAIRS THAT GO BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL SMALLER PATCHES THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE OF THE OWNERSHIP.

>> FROM A DISTRICT 8 PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND OTHER DISTRICTS AND OTHER PARTS OF PHOENIX, DO YOU SEE SOME OF THESE AREAS MORE IN NEED OF THIS AS OPPOSED TO THAT?

IT'S KIND OF CHECKERED, IS IT NOT?

>> IT IS A LITTLE CHECKERED.

I THINK IT'S A GOD PORTION OF IT AND WELL SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT ENTIRE CITY.

YOU'LL SEE FOR EXAMPLE A COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHICH BRINGS MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND BEING EXPANDED TO A NUMBER OF FACILITIES IN THE CITY.

>> AND YOUR MESSAGE TO VOTERS IS -- BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST TAKE OUT A BOND AND INITIALLY NO, NO, NO.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT A YES?

>> WE MAKE THAT A YES TO REMIND OUR RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT, THESE ARE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT PET PROJECTS.

THESE ARE NEEDS THAT HELP PROTECT THE SAFETY OF ALL RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT'S ON OUR ROADWAYS, IT'S IN OUR -- LIKE YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF OUR FLOODING CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR PARKS ARE SAFE.

IT'S ABOUT REDUCING OUR RESPONSE TIME.

IT IS ABOUT HELPING PROVIDE SENIOR CENTERS FOR SOME OF OUR GROWING AGING POPULATION.

WE ALSO ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME HOMES FOR THOSE THAT NEED IT.

IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE THAT ADDRESSES THE GREAT NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE, $500 MILLION FOR FIVE YEARS, CORRECT?

>> AHA.

>> AND THEN WILL YOU GO BACK TO VOTERS AND SAY NOW WE NEED MORE HERE IN FIVE YEARS?

>> IT'S PART OF A LARGER PLAN WE HOPE TO ROLL OUT THAT, YES, IN FIVE YEARS, WE WILL PROBABLY RETURN TO THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE NOT SURE AS TO THE NUMBER YET WHAT THAT FINANCIAL REQUEST WOULD BE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED.

WHAT WE DID IS TOOK THE TOP PRIORITIES IN THE EIGHT SUBCOMMITTEES AND DETERMINED WHICH WERE THE MOST COMPELLING PROJECTS.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN 20 YEARS SO DEFINITELY HAVE A GREAT NEED.

>> AND FIVE YEARS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.

BEFORE YOU GO, SINCE WE HAVE YOU HERE, HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING A COUNCILWOMAN?

YOU'RE STILL RELATIVELY NEW TO THE JOB BUT YOU MIGHT FEEL LIKE A VETERAN WITH EVERYBODY ASKING YOU STUFF, I WOULD IMAGINE.

>> SO FAR I'M REALLY ENJOYING.

IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH AND ACTUALLY BE THERE AND FIND OUT WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE AND WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE.

SO SO FAR, SO GOOD.

I'VE BEEN ENJOYING THE EXPERIENCE, AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

>> AND REDISTRICTING, DID IT AFFECT YOUR DISTRICT ALL THAT MUCH?

>> IT AFFECTED THE DISTRICT SLIGHTLY.

WE HAD TO LOSE A POPULATION.

WE HAD TO LOSE SOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND LOST THAT PRIMARILY FROM OUR NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE DISTRICT.

>> ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND EXPLAINING THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, FIRST ONE SINCE 2006.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, NEW RESEARCH INTO THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES RSV.

RSV IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF ACUTE VIRUS INFECTIONS.

IT'S A CONCERN IN CHILDREN AS WELL AS ADULTS.

NEW RESEARCH IS LOOKING INTO THE GENETIC MAKE-UP OF THE VIRUS AND HOW THAT INFORMATION CAN HELP FOCUS RSV VACCINES.

TO LEARN MORE, PROFESSOR.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> RSV IS A VIRUS THAT CAUSES A COMMON RESPIRATORY INFECTION.

MOST PEOPLE GET IT AND KIND OF GET OVER IT WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO.

BUT REALLY IT'S A PROBLEM FOR YOUNG KIDS AND ELDERLY PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN GET PRETTY SERIOUSLY SICK.

>> HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM JUST A BAD CHEST COLD OR IS IT JUST A BAD CHEST COLD?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER IT'S JUST A SIMPLE COLD FROM FLU TO OTHER VIRUSES.

TYPICALLY IT'S HARD TO DISTINGUISH IT BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE LAB, YOU CAN TREAT IT ACCORDINGLY.

>> IS IT GETTING MORE SERIOUS AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST?

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

BUT WE'RE SEEING A FRIEND WHICH THE SEASON OF RSV IS COMING TO CREEP UP AGENTS EARLIER.

TYPICALLY IT COMES UP LATER IN THE FALL SEASONS BUT FOR EXAMPLE THE LAST TWO YEARS, IT'S BEEN SHOWING UP A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS EARLIER THAN BEFORE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IS THAT SHOWING EARLIER THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE IT.

>> INTERESTING.

DID YOU THINK COVID IMPACTED THE NATURE OF RSV IN SOME WAYS?

>> THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE, TYPICALLY IN THE FALL, WE JUST DEAL WITH FLU AND RSV.

BUT NOW WE'RE DOING THREE OF THEM ALL TOGETHER, COVID IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS WELL.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR RESEARCH KNOW.

YOU'RE LOOKING INTO MEW TAKES FROM RSV.

WHAT'S THE RESEARCH ALL ABOUT?

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AND WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?

>> YES.

IN HERE, FIRST WE'RE THINKING THAT THE ART OF WAR IS THAT IN ORDER WIN THE BATTLE, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND YOURSELF AND YOUR ENEMY.

IN THIS CASE, THE ENEMY IS A VIRUS.

AND AS I SAID, BEFORE OUR RESEARCH WE ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE GENETIC MAKE-UP OF THIS RSV STRAIN IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO THE FIRST STUDY BY SEQUENCING HUNDREDS OF CASES IN OUR ARIZONA COMMUNITIES OF RSV TO UNDERSTAND THE GENETIC MAKE-UP OF THESE VIRUSES, IDENTIFY THE MUTATION SO THAT WE CAN BETTER ADJUST THE VACCINATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

>> WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THESE MUTATIONS HAPPEN?

>> SO FAR MOST OF THE STRAINS OF RSV OUT THERE ARE A VERY GOOD MATCH FOR THE VIRUS.

THE BAD NEWS IS SCIENTISTS ARE FINDING A HANDFUL OF THOSE STRAINS SHOWING NEW MUTATIONS THAT MAY CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH THE VACCINE.

THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SCARY BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS AWARENESS WE CAN MAKE THE NEXT STEP.

AND BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE VIRUS IS SAYING, I SEE YOU, VACCINE, I'M GOING TO GO AROUND YOU OR THIS WAY -- IT'S BASICALLY TRYING TO SURVIVE.

>> IT IS.

BUT RIGHT NOW IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO AND YEARS BEFORE THIS, WE DID NOT HAVE A RSV VACCINE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT TWO THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE US MORE PROTECTION IN COMMUNITIES AND THOSE KIND OF WANDERING VIRUSES OUT THERE, THOSE MUTATIONS MAY OR MAY NOT SURVIVE THIS WAVE OF PROTECTION FROM THE VACCINE.

>> YEAH.

AND AGAIN, IF THEY START EVADING THIS VACCINE OVER TIME, NEXT FALL YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE NEW BATCH, RIGHT?

>> EXACTLY.

>> ANTIBODY TREATMENTS, HOW DO THEY FACTOR INTO ALL THIS?

>> THE VACCINES RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY TARGETED FOR ELDERLY FOLKS HERE.

ONLY APPROVED FOR ADULTS ABOVE THE AGE OF 60.

NOW, THAT TARGETS HALF OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT IS GOING TO A PROBLEM FOR RSV.

THE OTHER HALF OF THE -- THE OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED IS YOUNG INFANTS.

THE VACCINE ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR THEM, BUT THESE PREVENTATIVE ANTIBODIES IS NOT A FORM OF TREATMENT.

IT'S NOT A VACCINE GIVEN TO THE KIDS, BUT THESE ANTIBODIES THAT CAN BLOCK THE VIRUS AND DIRECTLY GIVEN TO THE INFANT TO PROTECT THEM DIRECTLY.

>> DOES YOUR RESEARCH HELP GUIDING AND TRACKING THESE MUTATIONS?

DOES IT HELP SHOW WHERE AN RSV OUTBREAK STARTS IN DOES IT HELP SHOW HOW AN RSV OUTBREAK IS SPREADING?

>> YES.

AND THAT'S THE POWER OF THE GENETIC APPROACH WE HAVE HERE.

NOT JUST THE MUTATION BUT USING THE INFORMATION LIKE A GENETIC SIGNATURE PROFILE.

WE CAN KIND OF TRACE HOW THIS VIRUS HAS BEEN SPREADING, HOW MANY OUTBREAKS DID IT COME FROM, WHEN DID IT START SPREADING IN ARIZONA, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT THE OUTBREAK LAST YEAR OR IS THAT STILL TOO RECENT?

>> NO, WE DID.

SO THERE'S RSV-A AND RSV-B.

IN A IT WILL SEEMS WE HAD THREE PRODUCTIONS IN ARIZONA LAST YEAR, RSV-B IT WAS JUST A SINGLE INTRODUCTION THAT IS KIND OF CYCLING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE ARE SEEING THE VIRUS SPREADING IN ALL OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

>> LAST QUESTION HERE, DOES THIS KIND OF RESEARCH GENETIC MUTATION JUST SORT OF -- CAN IT APPLY TO OTHER VIRUSES, OTHER DISEASES, OTHER CONDITIONS?

>> EXACTLY.

THE REASON WE GOT INTO THIS IS WE BEGAN GOING FOR COVID.

SEQUENCING THE COVID VARIANTS, SO UNDERSTAND HOW THE VIRUS IS MUTATING TO THE DIFFERENT VARIANTS.

MATCHING THE VIRUS.

WE NOW DO THIS FOR RSV AND PLAN TO DO THAT WITH OTHER INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

>> SOUNDS LIKE GREAT RESEARCH.

CONGRATULATIONS, THE SCHOOL OF LIFE SENTENCES AND THE RSV MUTATIONS.

GOOD STUFF, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> A NEW BOOK DOCUMENTS THE INTERSECTION OF BASKETBALL AND FASHION.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING GYM SHORTS AND JERSEYS HERE.

BUT INSTEAD THE STYLE AND SELF EXPRESSION OF BASKETBALL PLAYERS ON AND OFF THE COURT.

THE BOOK IS SEATTLEED "FLY, THE BIG BOOK OF BASKETBALL FASHION" AND INCLUDES ALL SORTS OF PHOTOGRAPHS AND ESSAYS, AND THE BOOK'S AUTHOR IS PULITZER PRIZE WINNER MITCHELL JACKSON.

2:00 ARIZONA HORIZON.

YOU'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD YOURSELF.

>> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

>> WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO WRITE THIS BOOK?

>> I HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD AND PLAYING BASKETBALL AND OBVIOUSLY WATCHING THE NBA AND LOVING FASHION.

YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO MY UNCLE'S CLOSET AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING ON STUFF AND LOOKING AT MAGAZINES AND THEN YEARS LATER WHEN I STARTED TO WRITE, I BEGAN WRITING ABOUT BASKETBALL, SO IT WAS FITTING ALL THESE YEARS LATER THAT THIS IS A BOOK THAT WAS MY MIND.

>> YEAH, IN YOUR MIND AND MEMORY GROWING UP.

THOSE OF WHITE HOUSE ARE BASKETBALL FANS, THESE PICTURES ARE JUST MAGIC.

BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STYLE AND FASHION.

>> YES.

I THINK FASHION REQUIRES A FOREIGN HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE TRENDS ARE, WHAT BRANDS ARE IN FAVOR, WHAT AREN'T.

AND I THINK STYLE IS -- YOU KNOW, FASHION FADES BUT CHILD IS ETERNAL.

BECAUSE STYLE IS A MATTER PRINCIPLE.

NO MATTER WHAT THE FASHION IS, A PERSON THAT'S STYLE LISH WILL TAKE THAT AND MAKE IT THEIR OWN.

>> AND IN SOME WAYS MIRRORS THE CULTURE AT THE SAME TIME?

>> YEAH.

I THINK THE FASHION MIRRORS THE CULTURE BECAUSE IT'S SHAPED BY CULTURE FORCES, POLITICAL, SOCIAL.

SO, YES, FASHION IS.

BUT THE STYLIST SIDE, LIKE THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THING.

>> YEAH.

WELL, I'M A LOT OLDER THAN YOU I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID PLAYING BASKETBALL, I HAD MY CHUCK TAYLORS AND I ALSO HAD PUMAS.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF ODD.

AND THEN I SAW THEM IN YOUR BOOK.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

PUMAS, THE SUEDE, NO TOP.

THAT WAS DEFINITELY A FASHION TREND.

I HAD MY OWN BUT I WAS LIKE A HIP-HOP GUY.

>> YEAH.

I WAS A BASKETBALL GUY.

I NOTICE IN THE BOOK ONE OF THE EARLIEST PICTURES WAS WALT FRAZIER CLYDE.

HE WAS KIND OF AN ORIGINAL, WAS HE NOT.

>> YES, HE WAS.

I CALL IT THE ERA OF FLAM BOY ANCE AND I THINK HE REPRESENTS THAT LIKE A NEW FREEDOM THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY HE'S THE ICON IN BASKETBALL FASHION.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS A KID HE SAID HERE'S HOW YOU CATCH A FLY.

THAT'S THE STUFF YOU REMEMBER BUT THE ABA, HOW BIG OF A FACTOR WAS THAT, I THINK A TREMENDOUS FACTOR IN THE NBA.

THEY PLAYED THE GAME MORE LOOSE.

THEY LET PLAYERS BE MORE INDIVIDUALISTIC.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THOSE GUYS THAT CAME OVER IN THAT DRAFT, ONE WAS DR. JAKE, WHO I THINK IS THE -- DR. JAY, WHO I THINK IS THE MOST STYLISH AMERICAN BASKETBALL HISTORY.

>> AND IF YOU WERE YOUNG AND A KID, THAT'S ATTRACTIVE STUFF.

>> RIGHT.

THEY PLAYED A FASTER GAME, THEY BROUGHT THE 3-POINTERS TO THE LEAGUE.

A LOT OF GOOD STUFF.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO BEFORE WE GET TO A COUPLE OF PICTURES HERE, WHERE IS DENNIS RODMAN FIT INTO ALL THIS?

>> DENNIS RODMAN IS AN ICON IN NBA FASHION.

>> REALLY.

>> AN ICON IN AMERICAN CULTURE.

BUT I THINK BECAUSE HE WAS DOING THE THINGS THAT HE WAS DOING IN 1990, HE'S REALLY BEFORE HIS TIME.

RIGHT, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PLAYERS NOW, JEREMY DYING HIS HAIR, YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER GUYS PAINTING THEIR NAILS, I LOOK AT RUSSELL WEARING A SKIRT.

LIKE ALL OF THAT STUFF DENNIS RODMAN DID 20, 30 YEARS AGO.

BUT IT WASN'T SO ACCEPTED.

I THINK IT WAS MORE SHOCKING AND NOW IT'S FACTSABLE.

>> IT WAS SO FAR OUT OF THE BOUNDS THAT IT WAS HARD TO FIGURE THAT OUT UNTIL LATER.

LET'S GET TO SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.

THE FIRST IS MAGIC JOHNSON.

198819 ONE OF MY FAVORITES, BECAUSE TO ME IT REFLECTS MAGIC'S AFFIRMNESS THAT HE'S A STAR.

LOOK AT ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AROUND HIM.

AND HE KNOWS IT.

>> OH, FOR SURE.

YEAH, I'M THE CENTER OF ATTENTION.

>> WE HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE OF AMARE STOUDAMIRE, BIG AROUND HERE.

>> JUST SAW HE'S GETTING INDUCTED INTO THE SUNS HALL OF FAME.

>> YES.

AND ABOUT TIME.

I NEVER REALIZED -- AND CHECK ME IF I'M WRONG, HE WASN'T THAT BIG OF A FASHIONISTA HERE, BUT LATER WAS IT THE MOVE TO NEW YORK?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT?

>> I THINK PART OF IT WAS THE MOVE TO NEW YORK.

PART OF IT IS HE WAS WORKING WITH RACHEL JOHNSON WHICH IS LIKE THE PIONEER OF STYLING NBA PLAYERS.

I THINK HE HAD TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE TO ME HE IS STYLISH.

NOT JUST FASHIONABLE.

THIS IS DETAILS, BUT THE POCKET -- THE MEDALLIONS ON THE POCKET ARE KIND OF ROSE GOLD AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATCH, IT'S ALSO ROSE GOLD.

THE WAY HE'S WEARING HIS STARVE, THE BRIM, THERE'S A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL IN THIS PHOTO.

>> AND THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN AT PARIS FASHION WEEK.

SO KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING THERE AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

EXACTLY.

>> AND LAST ONE IS -- I JUST LOVE THIS SHOT, THIS IS KOBE BRYANT.

AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, THIS IS A SHARP-DRESSED MAN.

>> YES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW.

>> YES.

>> IT'S LIKELY A TOM FORD SUIT.

THE TAILORING IS IMPECCABLE.

LOOK AT HIS INSEAM.

YOU CAN SEE THE DOTS, THE PEEK OF HIS WHITE SHIRT.

HIS POCKETS ARE JUST RIGHT.

IT'S PERFECTION.

IT REMINDS ME HOW KOBE PLAYED, RIGHT.

IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING HOW HE TRAINED, HE TRAINED FOR PERFECTION AND THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF THAT.

>> YEAH, THERE'S NO FOOLING AROUND HERE.

THIS IS STRAIGHT AHEAD, LET'S GET DONE AND HE GOT IT DONE.

AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE, HOW BIG A FACTOR -- AND YOU GO WAY BACK, YOU GO BACK TO TEAMS THAT ARE -- THERE IS NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN ON THE TEAM.

>> YEAH, RIGHT.

>> THE IMPACT OVER THE YEARS.

>> YEAH.

>> ON STYLE AND CULTURE, ESPECIALLY WITH BASKETBALL PLAYERS LEADING THE WAY.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE LEAGUE WAS FOUNDED IN '46.

THEY GOT THEIR FIRST BLACK PLAYER IN '50.

SO REALLY EARLY ON IN THE LEAGUE THEY HAD BLACK PLAYERS, AND THEN 1976 OR SO, IT REALLY TURNS INTO A BLACK LEAGUE.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT IT IS JUST AN ASPECT OF BLACK CULTURE NOW, RIGHT.

THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF BLACK PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE AND LUCKILY THE LEAGUE HAS EMBRACED THAT AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

IT USED TO BE YOU HAD TO DRESS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THAT, A SHIRT AND TIE, BUT NOW IT'S LIKE YOU'RE OUT OF PLACE OTHERWISE.

THIS KIND OF FASHION IN TERMS OF GLOBAL FASHION, HOW MUCH OF AN INFLUENCE?

>> HUGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS NOW THAT ARE GOING TO PARIS FASHION WEEK, MILAN FASHION WEEK, THEY'RE REPRESENTING BRANDS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BRANDS, THEY'RE SITTING NEXT TO THE MET GALA.

LIKE TO IS SERIOUS STUFF NOW.

>> LAST QUESTION.

YOUR FAVORITE ERA.

>> THE ERA OF FLAMBOYANCE.

YEAH, SO THE ONE THAT SET OFF BY THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.

>> YEAH.

60s, 70s?

>> YEAH.

>> MITCHELL JACKSON, FLY THE BIG BOOK OF BASKETBALL FASHION, THAT IS A HOOT OF A BOOK.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS FOR SHARING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.