
“Rustin” Brings a Civil Rights Hero Out of the Shadows
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Actor Colman Domingo discusses his leading role in the Netflix biopic "Rustin."
The new Netflix film "Rustin" tells the story of a man central to the civil rights movement, but relatively unknown today. Bayard Rustin was a key organizer of the 1963 March on Washington, a confidant of Martin Luther King Jr., and a tireless advocate for equality. Lead actor Colman Domingo speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about the film.
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“Rustin” Brings a Civil Rights Hero Out of the Shadows
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The new Netflix film "Rustin" tells the story of a man central to the civil rights movement, but relatively unknown today. Bayard Rustin was a key organizer of the 1963 March on Washington, a confidant of Martin Luther King Jr., and a tireless advocate for equality. Lead actor Colman Domingo speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about the film.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> AND NOW A STORY OF A MAN CENTRAL TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHOSE NAME YOU MAY HAVE NEVER HEARD.
BAYARD RUSTIN WAS A KEY ORGANIZER OF THE 1966 MARCH ON WASHINGTON, A CONFIDANTE OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., AND A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR EQUALITY.
HE WAS ALSO OPENLY GAY.
BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA ARE WORKING TO RESTORE THE CIVIL RIGHT LEGEND'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN HISTORY WITH THEIR NEW NETFLIX FILM CALLED "RUSTIN."
IT STARS COLEMAN DOMINGO IS GETTING RAVE REVIEWS FOR HIS PERFORMANCE.
AND HERE HE IS SPEAKING WITH HARRY SRINIVAS IAN.
>> FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHO BAYARD RUSTIN, YOU PLAY HIM, YOU DID THE HOMEWORK.
WHO WAS HE?
>> BAYARD RUSTIN WAS A YOUNG QUAKER FROM WEST CHESTER, PENNSYLVANIA.
HE WAS A YOUNG COMMUNIST AT A TIME.
HE PLAYED THE LAWSUIT.
HE SAID ELIZABETHAN LOVE SONGS.
HE WAS A STRATEGIC MIND AND GREAT ORGANIZER.
AND IN 1963, HE DID THE MONUMENTAL TASK OF WHAT HE AND A GROUP CALLED YOUNG ANGELIC TROUBLE MAKERS.
THEY WERE THE ARCHITECTS OF THE MARCH ON TWA.
>> WE ARE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER THE LARGEST PROTEST IN THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION.
>> HOW BIG?
>> 100,000 PEOPLE.
>> IS HE FOR REAL?
>> A MASSIVE TWO-DAY DEMONSTRATION THAT IS GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE AND CAPITOL HILL, MADE UP OF ANGELIC TROUBLE MAKERS OF YOURSELVES, WITH AN IDEA SO BOLD, SO INSPIRING, THE EXECUTION WILL DEMAND ALL DRAW TIGHTLY TOGETHER AND BECOME ONE.
>> WHY IS IT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIM?
WHY IS IT IT'S JUST NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE IN HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY BOOKS WHEN WE DO READ ABOUT THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON?
>> WHAT I LIKE TO BELIEVE IS THAT HE IS SUCH AN IMPACT, AND HE WAS SUCH A GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST AND ORGANIZER AND STRATEGIC HUMAN, FASCINATING HUMAN GUY.
BUT I THINK HE WAS MARGINALIZED BECAUSE HE WAS OPENLY GAY.
THAT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT HE WAS ALL BUT ERASED FROM THE HISTORY BOOKS AND HIS SIGNIFICANCE AND WHAT HE DID.
>> BEING OPENLY GAY IN THAT ERA IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING THAN BEING OPENLY GAY TODAY.
I MEAN, THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER CHALLENGES THAT HE WAS FACING KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY.
>> WELL, THE THING IS, THIS MAN WAS FIGHTING FOR NOT ONLY CIVIL RIGHTS, BUT HUMAN RIGHTS.
AND HE WAS BEING EXACTLY WHO HE WAS IN THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WHY I MENTIONED HE WAS YOUNG QUAKER, HE GREW UP, HIS GRANDMOTHER, THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HIM BEING WHO HE WAS IN THE WORLD.
THAT WAS PART OF HIS NORTH STAR.
SO HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF IN ANY CIVIL WAY.
BUT, WE DO KNOW AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, BEING OPENLY ANYTHING, BEING OPENLY GAY IN PARTICULAR CALLS TO YOUR BODY, BUT YOUR LIVELIHOOD.
YOU LOSE YOUR JOB.
THERE IS NOT ANY PROTECTIONS IN WAY.
SO THEREFORE IT HAD TO STAY SUBVERTED IN MANY WAYS.
SO I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY THAT WAS PART OF HIS STRUGGLE.
AND YET, STILL, THE ONE THING YOU COULDN'T DENY AND HOW SMART AND COURAGEOUS HE WAS, AND HOW EVERYONE RESPECTED HIM IN HIS MIND, WHICH WAS WILD.
AND THEY RESPECTED HIM.
HE WAS THE ONE WHO INSPIRED DR. KING ABOUT DR. KING'S IDEOLOGIES ABOUT PASSIVE RESISTANCE.
FROM THE TEACHING OF GANDHI AND THOREAU.
LIKE HE EVEN SAYS, THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS, YOU KNOW.
WHICH IS WILD.
YOU LOOK AT HISTORY, THE WAY HISTORY WILL SHINE THE LIGHT ON SOME AND THEN SUPPRESS OTHERS, IT'S A CASE OF THAT.
>> AS THE FILM POINTS OUT, IT'S NOT JUST THE SORT OF FOLKS YOU EXPECT TO TRY TO REPRESS HIM OR ERASE HIM, BUT IT'S PEOPLE FROM NOW, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE MORE PROGRESSIVE CORNERS OF, SAY, THE DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL MACHINE THAT DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE THE FACE OF THIS EVENT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT THE EVENT.
>> MARTIN LUTHER KING, HE FIT A PROFILE IN MANY WAYS.
THERE WERE OTHER INCREDIBLE LEADERS AS WELL.
MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAD INCREDIBLE VOICES, YET FOR THE MOVEMENT, I THINK THE MOVEMENT WANTED TO GATHER AND SAY THIS IS EXACTLY WHO WE ARE.
THE OTHER FOLKS WHO DIDN'T FIT THAT, AND BAYARD RUSTIN WAS VERY MUCH AN OUTLIER IN EVERY SINGLE SHAPE AND FORM, THE WAY HE SPOKE, THE WAY HE MOVED THROUGH SPACES, THE WAY HIS HAIR LOOKED, THE WAY HE WAS DRESSED.
HE WAS AN OUTLIER IN EVERY SENSE OF THE TERM.
AND ALSO BAYARD WAS ALSO -- THE STRUGGLE WAS NOT ONLY WITH THE OUTSIDE FORCES LIKE PEOPLE LIKE STROM THURMOND OR HOOVER WHO WERE USING ANYTHING TO MAKE THIS MOVEMENT FALL APART.
BUT ALSO WITHIN HIS OWN -- HIS OWN BROTHERHOOD, THE NAACP IN PARTICULAR, IN OUR FILM, ADAM CLAYTON POWELL IN PARTICULAR DOES THINGS, SAYS THINGS TO DISCREDIT BAYARD RUSTIN.
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT POWER IN MANY WAYS.
>> ARE THEY EXPECTING MY RESIGNATION?
>> SOME ARE, YES.
>> THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIRE ME.
BECAUSE I WILL NOT RESIGN.
ON THE DAY THAT I WAS BORN BLACK, I WAS ALSO GOVERNOR GOVERNOR A HOMOSEXUAL.
THEY EITHER BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, OR THEY DO NOT.
>> TELL ME ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP AND FRIENDSHIP WITH DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BECAUSE IN THE FILM, IT'S PLAYED OUT IN AN INTERESTING WAY WHERE REALLY AN ALLEGATION AND AN ACCUSATION MADE ABOUT THEM IS USED TO, WELL, SILENCE HIM POLITICALLY.
>> YEAH.
THEY WERE VERY CLOSE.
THEY WERE LIKE BROTHERS.
BUT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO EXAMINE THIS FRIENDSHIP AND THIS SORT OF TENDERNESS BETWEEN BROTHERS WHO REALLY BELIEVED EACH OTHER'S MINDS AND BEING WAS A CHALLENGE WITH FOLKS.
THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AN OPENLY GAY MAN AND A STRAIGHT MAN.
I THINK THEY COULD NOT THINK OF ANYTHING BUT SEX IN BETWEEN.
INSTEAD OF THINKING LIKE I KNOW, FRIENDSHIP AND BROTHERHOOD, BUT BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S BIASES OF THE WORLD AND WHAT THEY PUT ON IT.
AND THEN, THAT WAS ALSO THREATENING TO NOT ONLY WITHIN THE MOVEMENT, BUT IT WAS THREATENING TO OUTSIDE THE MOVEMENT.
PEOPLE CAN USE IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, AND EVEN LIE ABOUT IT.
I THINK YOU KNOW FROM WHAT I KNOW, THERE WAS A PICTURE MADE, LIKE CREATED OF, LIKE, MARTIN LUTHER KING IN THE BATHTUB AND BAYARD RUSTIN SITTING IN A CHAIR NEARBY OR SOMETHING, TO BE SUGGESTIVE, TO SEE IF IT CAN BE USED LIKE DISCREDIT BOTH OF THEM, TO BRING DOWN THE MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
THERE IS A LOT OF FORCES, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR THE FIGHT FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, THERE WERE MANY FORCES THAT WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT FALL APART, WITHIN THE PARTIES AND OUTSIDE OF IT AS WELL.
SO I THINK -- FROM WHAT I KNEW, AND THE WAY THAT AMEL AMIN AND I PLAYED IT, HE IS BEAUTIFUL.
AND HE IS PLAYING MARTIN SORT OF AS A YOUNG MAN WHO DOESN'T HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT JUST YET.
SO YOU SEE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY HAD OF TEACHER AND STUDENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO EXPERIENCE.
AND THEN ALSO SEE HOW THE TENDERNESS BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN THAT ONE WOULD NEVER REALLY IMAGINE, THE TENDERNESS BETWEEN THESE TWO.
THEY HAD TO BE INTIMATE TO REALLY SUPPORT EACH OTHER FOR THE FIGHT FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.
THEY HAD TO.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO EXPLORE.
INTIMATE AND THE LOVING BROTHERHOOD SENSE.
YOU KNOW?
>> TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE PLAYING SOMEONE LIKE BAYARD RUSTIN WHEN YOU ARE ALSO A LEFT-HANDED BLACK GAY MAN WHO WOULD BE 51 WHEN YOU WERE ACTING THIS ROLE.
>> THE SIMILARITIES ARE STAGGERING.
AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE ARE ALSO PROFOUND.
BUT WHAT WE MEET IN THE MIDDLE FEELS SO SPECIAL AND IT FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT THING AND THE RIGHT TIME.
BAYARD RUSTIN, PLAYING HIM CAME ALONG AT THIS PERFECT TIME IN MY LIFE AND CAREER WHERE I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN 32 YEARS OF WORK TO POUR INTO A CHARACTER LIKE THIS AND TO LEAD A FILM LIKE THIS.
THIS IS -- HE HAS SO MUCH SIZE AND SO MUCH PURPOSE AND INTENT.
HE GAVE HIS LIFE INTO THE FIGHT AND THE STRUGGLE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE CAN'T SAY.
PEOPLE WERE ACTIVISTS WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT.
BUT THIS PERSON WAS LIKE AN ACTIVIST ALWAYS, EVEN WHEN HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, PROTESTING LUNCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, DEDICATION.
SO IT'S A PROFOUND PRIVILEGE.
BECAUSE I THINK EVEN AS I FIND MYSELF AS AN ARTIST, FINDING EVEN MORE MINDFULNESS AND INTENTION WITH WHAT I'M DOING IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PHASE OF MY CAREER.
I FEEL SO BLESSED AND SO HONORED THAT I GET TO SHARE WITH FOLKS THIS MAN WHO IS SUCH A PERSONAL HERO TO THE ENTIRE WORLD.
IT'S AN INCREDIBLE HONOR.
>> WHEN DID YOU FIRST LEARN ABOUT HIM?
BECAUSE AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, IT'S -- HIS HISTORY IS NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
>> WELL, I STUMBLED ON BAYARD RUSTIN IN COLLEGE.
NOT EVEN IN A CLASS OR COURSE.
I JOINED THE AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENT UNION, BECAUSE I WAS VERY CURIOUS ABOUT DISCOVERING MORE MY HISTORY, HAVING MORE, I DON'T KNOW, CAMARADERIE.
SO I JOINED THE STUDENT UNION.
AND WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
AND THEN HIS NAME CAME UP, SORT OF AS A FOOTNOTE.
BECAUSE I THINK A FEW THINGS CAME UP, LIKE OH, LAKER, WEST CHESTER, PENNSYLVANIA, OPENLY GAY, ORGANIZED THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.
I WAS WAIT, WHAT?
AND EVEN HE SANG LOVE SONGS, PLAYED THE LAWSUIT.
WAIT, WHO IS THIS PERSON?
AND HOW COME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIM?
THAT'S STRANGE.
I'M FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
BUT ALSO, THIS IS A PROFOUND HUMAN.
WHY DON'T WE KNOW HIS STORY?
AND THEN THE MORE DIGGING I DID, I FINALLY REALIZED.
OH, BECAUSE HE WAS OPENLY GAY.
>> AND WHOEVER HAS DIRECT DEALINGS WITH MR. HOOVER, LET HIM KNOW THAT ON AUGUST 28th, BLACK, WHITE, YOUNG, OLD, RICH, WORKING CLASS, POOR, WILL DESCEND ON WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN DO TO STOP IT.
>> THE PACE AT WHICH THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON WAS ORGANIZED SEEMS STAGGERING ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS, EVEN WITHOUT KIND OF RACIAL CHALLENGES THAT WE MIGHT FACE TODAY TO TRY TO PULL TOGETHER 100,000 HUMANS TO ONE LOCATION WHEN NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO FLY.
THERE IS LAYER UPON LAYER.
AND AS I LOOK AT IT, AND THEY DID IT IN SEVEN WEEKS?
>> OH, YEAH.
LET'S ALL REMEMBER, THEY DID IT WITHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY DID IT WITHOUT CLICKING.
IT WAS REALLY GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING AT ITS BEST.
AND THEY DID IT IN LESS THAN -- IN ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS' TIME.
THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
SO THE IDEA OF THIS STRATEGIST AND THIS MIND.
HE WAS WE CAN GALVANIZE AND GET ALL THESE GROUPS, WHETHER IT'S CLC OR NAACP.
HE WAS OUTSIDE IN HIS THINKING, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND ALSO, HE WORKED WITH A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, BECAUSE I THINK HE ALSO PREFERRED WORKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
THEY'RE NOT RIGID.
THEY BELIEVE IN POSSIBILITY.
THEY BELIEVE IN THE UNEXPECTED.
THEY'RE LIKE YES, LET'S GO ON A LEDGE AND BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE, AND THEY DID IT.
BUT THEY ALSO HARNESSED AND GALVANIZED UNIONS AND COALITIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY UNDERSTOOD TO GATHER PEOPLE AND INVITE THE UNIONS TO BE A PART OF THIS.
EVERYONE IS PART OF THIS FIGHT IN SOME FORM.
THOSE ARE THINGS AND TACTICS THAT HE KNEW.
VERY STRATEGIC, VERY DETAILED.
HE KNEW HE COULD GET IT DONE.
>> WHAT WAS TOUGH AS AN ACTOR?
GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE MATERIAL, SEEING PICTURES OF HIM, SEEING MAYBE VIDEO OF HIM IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
WHAT DID YOU PICK UP ON?
WHAT WAS THE HARDEST FOR YOU?
WAS IT HIS PHYSICALITY?
WAS IT THE ACCENT?
>> YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS DONE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO ACCENT WORK, PHYSICAL WORK.
I COME FROM THE THEATER.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF WHAT I DO.
AND I'M A BIT OF A SHAPE SHIFTER.
I KNOW THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO FULLY EMBODY A CHARACTER IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
SO THOSE THINGS I KNEW HOW TO BUILD, AND I'M VERY RIGOROUS IN MY WORK.
SO I JUST WORK AT IT AND WORK AT IT FOR HOURS AND HOURS.
BECAUSE I WANT TO REALLY HONORED A GET IT RIGHT, AND THEN RECEDE.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE WORK.
YOU JUST SEE THE PERSON.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL.
>> WHAT KIND OF HOMEWORK ARE YOU ABLE TO DO?
WHAT REMAINS IN THE ARCHIVES?
WHAT KINDS OF DATA WERE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP?
>> THE STRANGEST THING IS THERE IS A LOT, WHICH IS GREAT.
YEAH, THERE IS BOOKS ON HIS WRITINGS.
I THINK WRITING PEOPLE'S LETTERS ARE A GREAT KEY TO THEIR MIND AND THE WAY THEY THINK AND THE WAY THEY FEEL.
YOU CAN FIND A LETTER BETWEEN HE AND DR. KING.
YOU CAN FIND SOME INTERVIEWS AND SOME DEBATES.
AND WHETHER HIS DEBATES WERE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
BUT YOU WATCH HIM WORK.
YOU WATCH THE WAY HE SPEAKS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THREE OCTAVES HIGHER THAN MINE IN PITCH.
THE WAY HE MOVES HIS BODY THROUGH SPACES, WHICH IS VERY SORT OF FLUID AND FANTASTIC, HIS FINGERS ALWAYS MOVE LIKE BIRDS.
THE WAY HE SMOKES.
SO YOU CAN FIND A LOT.
>> YOU WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO KNEW BAYARD.
HE PASSED AWAY IN 1987, INCLUDING ONE OF HIS PARTNERS, ORGANIZERS WHO KNEW HIM.
HOW DO THEY REMEMBER HIM TODAY?
>> OH, MAN, I WAS JUST TEXTING.
I TEXTED ROCHELLE HOLLOW WITS ALL THE TIME.
AND I'M MEETING WITH WALTER NICK FOR LUNCH, WHO WAS BAYARD'S PARTNER.
AND THEY ALL REMEMBER HIM -- FIRST OF ALL, THE THING I MUST SAY BECAUSE IT'S ON MY HEART, THEY SAID THAT THEY'VE BEEN PEOPLE CALLING THEM.
AND I THINK IT FEELS LIKE BAYARD IS ALIVE AGAIN.
SO PEOPLE CALLING.
OH, MY GOSH, THAT MOMENT IN PARTICULAR WHEN COLEMAN PUTS DOWN HIS CIGARETTE AND STOMPS IT OUT, I WITNESSED THAT MANY TIMES.
BAYARD DID THAT.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
NO.
SHE SAID THERE IS SOMETHING.
SHE SAYS SHE IS NOT A SPIRITUAL PERSON, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING SPIRITUAL ABOUT THE PORTRAYAL.
IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE CALLING EACH OTHER.
THAT'S WHAT THEY FEEL.
THEY FEEL VERY PROUD OF THE FILM.
THEY FEEL PROUD THAT HIS STORY IS OUT THERE, JUST LEGACY AND HIS IMPORTANCE IS OUT IN THE WORLD.
BECAUSE I THINK THEY'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT HIM AS SUCH A -- HE WAS ALWAYS THEIR MOUNT RUSHMORE.
AND WE MARVELIZE HIM WITH THE FILM.
BUT WE ALSO MAKE SURE HE IS HUMAN.
HE IS NOT A PERFECT PERSON.
HE IS KIND OF MESSY AT TIMES IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE, AND THAT'S ALL TO SHOW A REAL COOL HUMAN BEING.
THEY'RE VERY HAPPY.
AND THAT MAKES ME HAPPY.
BECAUSE MORE THAN ANY CRITICISM OF THE FILM IN ANY SHAPE, WAY OR FORM, I FEEL LIKE I NEEDED TO KNOW THAT THEY KNEW THAT I TOOK CARE OF THEM MORE THAN ANYBODY.
>> HE WAS POSTHUMOUSLY GIVEN THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND MICHELLE OBAMA ARE PART OF THE PRODUCING TEAM OF THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF IF THEY'VE SEEN IT?
>> THEY HAVE SEEN IT, LOVED IT, CLAPPED FOR IT, INTRODUCED ME TO THE PBCU FIRST LOOK FILM FESTIVAL BECAUSE OF IT.
THEY ARE SUCH CHAMPIONS OF THIS FILM.
AND BAYARD RUSTIN'S LEGACY.
THEY COULDN'T BE MORE LOVELY AND WONDERFUL WITH MAKING SURE THAT BAYARD RUSTIN IS ON EVERYONE'S LIPS.
>> WHAT IT'S MEAN TO YOU AS A PERSON AND AS AN ACTOR THAT YOU GOT TO PLAY SOMEBODY WHO HAS BECOME A PERSONAL HERO TO YOU?
DOES IT HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, ANXIETY OR STRESS TO WANTING TO GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU LOOKED UP TO?
HOW DO YOU PROCESS THIS?
>> YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT WAS WILD.
WHEN I WAS FIRST OFFERED THIS ROLE, I THOUGHT I COULD GO ONE OR TWO WAYS.
I COULD BE TERRIFIED, OR I DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE TERRIFIED.
I HAVE TO GET DOWN TO WORK.
THAT'S WHAT I FEEL.
I HAVE TO GET DOWN TO WORK, AND I HAVE TO WORK EXCEPTIONALLY HARD, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT'S WHAT MY HERO DID.
HE WORKED EXCEPTIONALLY HARD, EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY A LITTLE BETTER.
AND SO MY JOB WAS JUST TO STAY FOCUSED IN ON THAT.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN GIVEN SUCH A GIFT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW.
WHEN A FILM LIKE THIS IS OUT IN THE WORLD, I THINK WE NEED TO RALLY THE SPIRITS OF PEOPLE AND LET ORDINARY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE JUST BY SHOWING UP AND BEING A PART OF IT.
I THINK WE NEED IT MORE THAN EVER.
I FEEL VERY, VERY BLESSED THAT IT'S OUT RIGHT NOW, THAT WHEN PEOPLE GET TO KNOW WHO BAYARD RUSTIN IS, I'M THE FACE OF BAYARD RUSTIN.
THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I FEEL LIKE I KNOW FOR SURE THIS GOES DOWN INTO MY PERSONAL -- MY LEGACY.
THIS IS A LEGACY WORK.
AND I KNOW IT IS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN AND CHILDREN UPON CHILDREN LEARNING ABOUT BAYARD RUSTIN AND KNOWING THAT THEY THINK OF ME AT THE SAME TIME.
>> ACTOR COLEMAN DOMINGO WHO PLAYS "RUSTIN."
IT'S ON NETFLIX NOW.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.

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