A Shot of AG
S02 E33: KJ Johnson| Pres. IL Fertilizer & Chemical Assoc.
Season 2 Episode 33 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Farm boy K. J. Johnson now leads the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association.
K. J. Johnson grew up on his family farm and began competing in tractor pulls with his two brothers at the age of six. He later worked in ag on Capitol Hill and was recently elected president of the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association.
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S02 E33: KJ Johnson| Pres. IL Fertilizer & Chemical Assoc.
Season 2 Episode 33 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
K. J. Johnson grew up on his family farm and began competing in tractor pulls with his two brothers at the age of six. He later worked in ag on Capitol Hill and was recently elected president of the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association.
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I'm the host, Rob Sharkey.
I'm a farmer from just outside of Bradford, Illinois.
I started a podcast which led into an XM Radio show, which led into a national television show, which led into me being here.
But today, today is not about me, today is about KJ Johnson.
How are you doing KJ?
- I'm great, Rob, how you doing today?
- I'm doing pretty good.
I've known you for a while.
I don't know what the K or the J stand for.
- So, Kevin John Johnson.
Now, both my grandfathers were named John, so I take it after that.
So, Kevin John.
- So, your one grandfather was named John Johnson.
- He was named John Johnson, he was.
- Okay.
All right, KJ, everybody remembers that.
- Yeah.
- It's a good name, it's a solid name.
- I think the only people that call me (laughing) by Kevin anymore are maybe my mother, my wife, and probably somebody else might walk through the pearly gates.
- [Rob] Your wife doesn't call you KJ?
- No, she doesn't.
(laughing) She actually calls me Kevin.
(laughing) - You do a lot of things.
I don't even know where to start.
One thing we're gonna get to later, you are the President of the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association, - Correct.
- IFCA.
That's recent, right?
- That's recent.
Just this last week we had our convention here in Peoria.
- Yeah.
- It just got named, I was the interim tag since the 1st of April, when my former boss, Jean Payne, decided to retire - Yeah.
- and had the interim tag for a little bit and then the board decided to give me the full-time job.
- Yeah, so being here in Illinois, how many people do you have to pay off for that?
(laughing) - Yeah, it's Illinois politics, but not that many, but I got a great board.
- [Rob] That's good.
- Yeah.
(laughing) - Okay, when I first met you though, you were working in DC.
- Yes.
- Tell me what you were doing there.
- So when I started college, I once started going to Dork, that's a junior college in Denville - Okay.
- for a semester.
And I had known a state rep named Tim Johnson that represented the Champaign County area.
- Yeah.
- And in the summer or fall of 99, he decided he's gonna run for congress.
Tom Ewing that was over that way had decided to retire, he's gonna run.
He knew I was interested in politics.
My mom's side had always been in politics and said, hey, wanna go on a campaign.
And at that time I wasn't really like in school and literally took a whole year off of school to go on the campaign-- - Didn't have any experience?
- I had experience in local races and stuff like that.
- Yeah.
- But, I did the parades and did all the knocking on doors and all that stuff.
But then literally took a whole year off, ran, did the campaign, and then he got elected in 2001, January one.
And he said, "I'll give you a part-time job.
"I know you love doing agriculture.
"You can do the agricultural work."
And then, "but you got to go back to school."
- How tall are you?
- Six five.
- So, did they hire you to be like the intimidator?
- Yes.
In some way yes.
- Is that what it is?
- You were gonna vote-- - There's a couple times where you had to get-- - You were gonna vote for Tim?
- Yeah.
(laughing) Kind of giving the (mumbles) or just kind of stay back a little bit.
(laughing) - So, what was your job out there?
What were you doing?
- I was doing agricultural stuff, so I actually had a love for ag.
I mean, came from a farm, but I worked on ag stuff, EPA and LNG.
So, those are my big three issues that I worked out there on.
- Okay.
So, were you working for the Congressman - Yes.
- or at one point, were you lobbying?
- No, It was just all for the Congressman.
- Okay.
- The last end of the year his tenure kind of worked with the House Ag Committee too.
He served - Yeah.
- all 12 years on that committee, but literally just worked for him.
- So, a lot of people maybe don't understand about politicians.
They can't keep track of everything.
- Yeah.
- Right.
All the stuff going on, some random, small ag issue - Yes.
- that is vitally important to a guy like myself.
He's not gonna know about it.
- Yep.
- So, he relies on people like you, - Yes.
- his staff.
- So, we had a good staff, but each staffer had kinda individual issues they worked on.
- Yeah.
- You had guys at did pension, social security, defense, and just the appropriations.
So, my big three were ag, the energy stuff and environment stuff.
- Was it hard to keep up with or were enough people in groups coming to you that you knew what issues were important?
- You knew kinda issues were important.
- Yeah.
- You knew what was important here back at home to Illinois.
But what I got a broader sense of is just how big agriculture is outside of Illinois.
The water rights when you go talk to a Western congressmen.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- Southern States, but you got to engross in not just corn and soybeans, but cotton peanuts, fruits and vegetables.
But the water issue was a huge issue back in the Western Plains.
And it's still a big issue in the Western States.
- Was it cool?
I mean, - Yes.
- You're-- - Yes.
- You're little KJ.
- Yes.
- Yeah, you're young KJ.
You're all bright eyes.
You're this farm kid from Illinois, now you're out in Washington, DC in the whole political room.
- Yes.
I went from high school a year off of campaigning to working in DC.
I mean, truly it's the maker of - [Rob] Yeah.
- policy and I truly still think the U.S. Capitol is one of those Holy places and still get out struck and love going out there every time I go.
- Yeah.
You probably had to wear a suit.
- I did have to wear a suit - Yeah.
- every day.
- This is like one of the few times I see you - Yes.
- not in a suit.
- Yes, yes.
- You always look good though.
(laughing) Somebody dresses you well.
- My wife does.
- Is that what it is?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- I have to run by every day.
- Do you remember that one night I spilled Crown Royal on your new shirt?
- I did, my wife still remembers that too opened my suitcase and it's smelling like maple syrup in my suitcase from her up.
- It's funny, I don't remember it.
(laughing) - You probably wouldn't.
But it was a good time.
- It was, it was a lot of fun.
(laughing) I forgot it was like Canadian.
- Yeah.
(mumbling) (laughing) - Let's move on.
- Yeah.
(laughing) - But then you've been out there, even the pageantry and the ability to see the monuments out there, - Yes.
- it gets you in the fills.
- It gets me in the fill, but I love taking guys out there and showing them around DC, just...
I'm a history nerd.
- Yeah.
- My wife will tell you I'm a history nerd, but just, hey, here's where this happened at, this is where this is at.
And then I love when we took the Illinois ag leadership, taking you guys out to different places where I've been and just kinda showing you guys around.
- Did they tell you who shot Kennedy?
When you got-- - No.
- No.
- they did not tell.
I'm still looking.
- Why are you winking at me?
(laughing) Okay.
So, you did the... Tell me how you morphed into the president.
I mean, obviously - Yep.
- you were elected, but how did that go?
- Yep.
- How did that transition go?
- So my...
Congressman Johnson was there till 2012, and a little bit in April, May of 2012, he just decided, "you know what?
"I've been here 12 years, "it's time to retire."
Like most members or staffers, when your member says they're gonna retire, you're kinda like, where do I go next?
- [Rob] Yeah.
- And I was lucky enough, my former boss, Jean had kinda given me a call and said, "hey, there might be an opening.
"It might not be till later to the year, "but there might be an opening.
"Would you have interest in?"
And she was just lobbying.
Either you love it or you just get tired of it or you hate it.
And she goes, "I'm getting tired.
"And I want somebody new or younger.
"And you lobby DC."
Which I knew, be a lobby Springfield.
And that was a whole new, like, that's something new, new adventure, let's take it on.
- [Rob] Which is more corrupt?
(laughing) That's a great question.
(mumbling) - We'll talk about that off.
- That's a great question.
(laughing) - We'll talk that off record.
(laughing) - Okay.
So, now you are focusing on the state of Illinois, - Yep.
- and like what issue?
- It is just pesticide and fertilizer issues.
My first couple of years, it was all about GMO labeling.
- [Rob] Sure, yeah.
- That was the hot topic when I came in in 2013, just GMO labeling - [Rob] Yeah.
- the first few years.
A lot of fertilizer issues.
You just nutrient issues, runoff, stuff like that.
We're still dealing with that today.
But then pesticide issues, just, stewardship of pesticides.
How do we use them?
How we use them correctly?
Stuff like that.
- When you look back on your time in Illinois, do you say it's like BD and AD, before Dicamba and after Dicamba?
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- There is times about that.
Yeah.
- So, Dicamba is a chemical herbicide that's been around forever.
- Yeah, absolutely.
- But then they genetically modified soybeans - Yes.
- that you could spray it on that.
The problem is, the soybeans that were not genetically modified it dings, right?
- Yes.
- It could kill it, - Yeah.
- but If it drips over there a lot of times at dings.
You were the guy that had to navigate those waters.
- Yes.
A lot of conversations with legislators, but just walking through it from... People on the ag class are ag leadership class, because people either you love it or hate it, and just saying, we have to coexist.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- That was our thing.
Can't say we're gonna fully blown.
Just love it, everything or let's ban it.
There is a fine line you gotta walk that we all have to coexist with these products and just walking people through that.
And I think we did do that.
There was some regulations that put on it, but actually I think at the end, it made a better product that we can use long-term.
- Yeah.
As a farmer, I love the ability to have that-- - Yes.
- I actually didn't grow any last year, but, there are some weeds out there that are getting - Absolutely.
- nasty.
Waterhemp is one that - Absolutely.
- whatever you spray on it, it kinda lasts but Dicamba will still kill it.
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- And, that's what I tell everybody who uses (mumbling) We need every tool in this toolbox.
- Yeah.
- We need every product.
It takes about 11 years for a new chemical to come to market.
And about $286 million.
There is nothing quick about this.
So, we need all the technologies that we have.
We're gonna still keep using this technology hopefully in the future.
But hopefully new products also come to market.
- Yeah.
It has to be frustrating for a guy like yourself when you're talking to politicians in Springfield, when a farmer is irresponsible, - Yep.
- that drives me insane.
- Absolutely.
- It's because you can't defend it.
- Yep.
And what I have told people with the dicamba is, I'm not defending bad people.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- If you do something off label what we always say in the industry, you must follow the label.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- The label is the law.
Please follow that.
If you fall, I'm not defending you.
The label is there for a reason.
- So, now that you're president, has your role changed?
- It just tweaked a little bit more.
It's more dealing - Yeah.
- with the budget of IFCA, working more on the convention stuff.
Before, yeah, when I was just doing the lobbying, it was literally, started January to the end of May, literally at the Illinois state Capitol, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, working legislators, working (mumbling) just kind of working all the issues.
Now, it's more the broad view of what IFCA is doing, expanding the membership, expanding convention, all those fun topics.
- You were out in DC.
You were traveling like crazy.
- Yep.
- Now that you're back in Illinois, is it a little better?
- It's a little better.
I wanna say there's still a lot of travel.
- Yeah.
- My wife will say, (laughing) there's still a lot of travel, but there's still travel going on.
The DC stuff I was going out for six times a year.
I'ma still do that, but COVID has changed all that stuff right now.
- [Rob] That's true.
Yeah.
- COVID is true.
Right now, you used to get, go to the U.S. Capitol, go through the House office building, the Senate office buildings, kinda hanging out down in the basement until your next meeting.
Right now they're saying, "you got an appointment we're gonna bring you in, "walk you back out."
So it has changed.
(mumbling) - Because your life has changed too.
- Yes.
- You got two kids now?
- Two kids, two boys.
- Whoa.
How old?
(mumbling) - A three old boy and a one year old boy.
- Goodnight.
How are you functioning?
(exhaling heavily) - Three-year-old boy is giving me a lot of gray hairs right now.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- I love him, but he's giving me a lot of gray hairs right now.
- [Rob] You can take care of those.
- Yeah.
- [Rob] Five minutes.
(laughing) All right, you are a farm kid.
- I am.
- What kind of farm did you grow up on.
- Yu Classic, East Central Illinois, corn and soybeans.
When we were a little younger, we had a little bit of livestock, but now it's truly just corn and soybeans.
- Okay.
Is the farm still - Yep.
- going?
- Yep.
- Do you help with it?
- I do.
I still got an active part in the farm.
It is my father and I'm the oldest of three boys.
So, my younger two brothers have a very active role in it.
My father and middle brother have the largest share of it.
And me and youngest still have a good piece of it.
So, we still get to be in a tractor.
And that's why I think helps me with my job day to day.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- I can still see, when we talk about Dicamba, I know what's going on, I know the prices, how that works, but we have a good operation, we all get along.
- [Rob] Really?
- Yeah.
- I mean, if the cameras weren't on, would you say the same thing.
- Yeah, I would say that.
We still... We really get along.
We all kind of know our roles.
There's not too many (laughing) chiefs in it but it's a good role.
We actually still love and I still love coming out every time to be at the farm.
- That's one of the biggest contentions a lot of time with family farms.
Is you have more children than you have the ability to support, but your family has been able to navigate that?
- Yeah.
I'll be in the first one to say, my father is getting to that age about where he's thinking about retiring.
I've been very honest, especially taking on this new role.
I don't want any more.
If my youngest brother wants to come back and take it on, that's fine.
I love the piece I got of the pie and I could still do this, but still gonna actively get my hands in the store.
But if my two brothers want to lead it on for after that, I'm all there helping him along the way.
- All right, obviously it helps because you've been incredibly successful at what you do.
- Yep.
- So, I'm glad for your family - Yep.
- and your dad.
Retiring farmer age, I think is around 115 now.
- He's just a little over 70, so.
(laughing) - Oh my gosh.
- Yeah.
- All right, tell me about the tractor pulling.
- Yeah, my father and uncle started tractor pulling back in the seventies.
- So, this is a tractor pulling.
- Yes.
This is tractor pulling.
This is - [Rob] Yeah.
- [KJ] literally my... - [Rob] I think we found Waldo by the way.
- [KJ] Yeah.
Yeah we did.
- [Rob] Is that your mom?
- That is not my mum.
That was just a picture taken.
That is literally my first pull when we started at five years old.
- I'm guessing by her hair it's in the eighties.
- Yes it is.
- Okay.
- It be 1985, that would be in Royal Illinois where the first tractor pull was that?
I actually pulled, won the competition.
- You did?
- I did.
- [Rob] At what age?
- Five years old.
- Okay.
I don't-- - Now if you love... - Know what to say to that.
- Yeah.
I have a three-year-old boy now and I'm like... (laughing) But that's what we did it.
- It wasn't you were like sitting on your dad's lap or something or no you were?
- No.
No, no, we were actually...
If you look at this other picture, there was probably... You have your clutch on this tractor.
- [Rob] Look how cute you were - [KJ] I know.
- [Rob] back in the day.
- [KJ] I know.
- [Rob] Were you six foot tall then?
- No, I wasn't.
Because what I was gonna say is we had about a two foot extension - Good.
- on the clutch pedal so I could push it in.
- Look how old I am, I can't even (laughing) that's an allis isn't it?
- No, that's a Minneapolis.
- It's a Minneapolis.
- Yeah, my father walking right next side to me, (laughing) that's how we did back then.
- That's very cool.
So, this is how you grew up.
- I grew up, well, most guys in the farm, other classmates you had there (mumbling) we didn't go... We went to Paris, but we didn't go to Paris to show catalogs, we went to the tractor pull.
- It seems like every farm family has that subculture.
- Absolutely.
- Either they're selling, they're showing livestock - Absolutely.
- or they're tractor pulling or I don't know.
- Yeah.
- Some people are into some weird stuff too.
- Yeah.
(laughing) - Yeah.
- I'm weird because I love politics and tractor pulling.
So, (laughing) I'm a one-off guy.
- There's a link there.
- There is a link there in some place.
- Okay that looks...
I don't think you would be driving that at five.
- [KJ] No, no.
- [Rob] What is this thing.
- [KJ] So, this is the tractor that us boys run right now.
- [Rob] Okay.
- [KJ] It's called for Built for Business.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- We run in the Illinois Tractor Pull Association, 95, Hot Farm.
We've done that.
That tractor we built in 2000.
Our uncle actually said back then we were still young we were just out of high school, but we had the itch to get back in the tractor pull.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- And we were doing small stuff, but said, we wanted get back into it.
And he's like, "here's kind of your gift.
"We're gonna give you this old tractor" - [Rob] Really?
- Do as you want.
I'm not gonna spend more money, but this is my gift for you guys to get back in tractor pulling.
And it's built from that.
- Is that like one that blows all the black smoke?
- It is.
(laughing) - Yes, it is so cool.
(laughing) So, how often do you... You have a tractor?
- Yep.
- How often does that tractor pull?
- We will try and hook probably 25 to 30 times this summer.
- [Rob] Okay.
- So, each envision we'll go the Illinois State Fair, but we'll stay in, in State Mose.
We'll go to Wisconsin once in a while, but we'll stay in State Mose most of the time.
- I had a guy on one time that was talking about racing and the dirt track racing at he said, "the thing about it is for just a little bit money.
"You can go just a little bit faster."
- Oh yes.
- It's the same with tractor pulling?
- Yeah.
We break down the tractor.
Every spring we're actually, the tractor is in a million pieces right now.
We rebuild, go to Dyno.
We're always looking for... - [Rob] Really?
- Yes.
We're looking for 1520 horse every time.
We're around 16, 1700 horse.
We're looking for another 10 horse every year.
- You're at 16, 1700?
- Absolutely, yeah.
(mouth whistling) - Holy cow.
- Yep.
- Is that a rush?
- Absolutely.
- Yeah.
- But I tell people the best part of it is I can spend more time with family.
This is my father-- - Oh, come on KJ.
- Yeah.
(laughing) - This-- - I get around a tractor that can blow the doors off (laughing) of anything, but it's about the family.
- Yeah.
(laughing) No, it really is.
It's... Don't get me wrong, there's a rush about it all.
- [Rob] Yeah.
and I'm a gear head as just as much as anybody, but spending nights in the shop with the father and two brothers and dad thinking, "here's the best idea, let's go this way."
And we just...
It's just a great event.
Some of my closest friends are two states away - [Rob] Yeah.
- because of tractor pulling.
- I didn't think about that, but it's probably more off the track - Yeah, absolutely.
- than it is on the track.
- Absolutely.
- There's a lot of nights that we work till midnight, one o'clock and (laughing) our wives look at us like, yeah, look at us like, "what are you guys doing "for a eight second ride?"
(laughing) - How long do you pull it or what's the ultimate, like what's the maximum length?
- 300, but there's...
Depending on the night, 350 is about as long as you'll go.
- [Rob] Okay.
- Yep.
- And how do you guys do?
I don't know, do you win?
- We're actually pretty successful.
- Yeah.
- There used to be up until the last couple of years, Gordyville down by us, had a big indoor tractor pull.
We won that five times.
We've been very successful, we've been very lucky.
A lot of great people that do our engine building and kind of just working on the only tweaks, but we've been very successful over the years.
- But to get a tractor like that, do you send it off somewhere to get built or do you, - No.
- is that all you?
- So, there are some guys that send stuff off to get built, - Yeah.
- but we'll buy some of the parts, but then we put everything together ourselves.
- So, then do you make fun of the people that send it off to go get built.
- No... - Come on.
(laughing) A little bit?
- No, I think... - Maybe when it's just you and your mate?
- Yeah, maybe, just maybe.
- Okay.
(laughing) I would.
- Yeah.
- But I would be the guy that sent it off.
- Yeah.
(laughing) Yeah.
Is it dangerous at all?
- The classes that are higher up, - [Rob] Yeah.
- we have one turbocharger.
There are guys that are running three turbocharged, four turbochargers.
Yes, that...
It'd be dangerous, some blow up.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- Yeah, absolutely.
- [Rob] It's a lot of moving parts.
- It actually have a lot of moving parts and are a lot of pressure.
- [Rob] Yeah.
They seem very angry.
- Yes, exactly.
(laughing) - I love watching them, I don't understand them, - Yep.
- but it's just something about being in the stands when that thing goes by - Yes.
- and you could feel it.
- Yes.
- You can - Absolutely.
- just feel the power of it.
- Yep.
- It's just so, - And that's the next thing.
- so damn cool.
(laughing) (mumbling) As junkies that are into it always want more power, something bigger, something louder, something stronger.
- Yeah.
Have you ever thought about moving up to the multi-engine?
- Oh, I would love to but - Really.
- my wife would probably divorce me with that.
- So, like the one you see at the big time poles, - Yes.
- right?
With, I don't know how many engines it got.
- Four engines, five engines.
- Four?
- Yes.
- Ballpark.
How much is something like that cost?
- Oh, you're looking at... - [Rob] Is it?
- Oh yeah.
- [Rob] It's over a million?
- No, with some of the rigs and stuff like that, yeah absolutely.
- Whoa.
- It better be fun.
- Yeah, it better be fun.
Deep pockets.
You've gotta have a sponsorship, stuff like that, but I would love to have and what they call mini rod or one of - [Rob] Yeah.
- those big engines, but on a little chassis goes as fast as you can, I would love to have it, but yeah.
- You ever see those lawn mower pulls.
- I have.
- You could get into that.
- Yeah, yeah, no.
(laughing) No, no.
(laughing) - You and I met through the Illinois ag leadership program.
- Yeah.
- You were incredibly busy guy.
That's an incredible time commitment.
Why did you sign up for something like that?
- I knew it'd be a great kinda I would develop more, but I also, there was a lot of friends that had went through the class that just talked about how much they got connected with their class members.
It's just like our class, our class is super, super close and I got more-- - Yeah.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(laughing) But we did.
But we... - You still bring up me spilling whiskey on your shirt.
(laughing) It was an accident.
- It was an accident.
- I am sorry.
- Exactly, but we got to learn a lot.
We had a great time in DC, in Japan.
- And Panama.
- Yeah.
I didn't get to do the Panama trip.
- Oh, that's right.
Yeah, you cut it short.
- I did.
I had to cut it short.
- Yeah.
- And that's okay.
There was not much to Panama.
(laughing) If you're ever planning a vacation, Japan?
- Great.
- Yeah.
You, you fit right in Japan.
Didn't you?
- Yeah.
Walked in the subway system - Got zero.
(laughing) - and I got a whole lotta looks.
(laughing) - Oh my gosh.
(laughing) I think I still have a picture on my phone of you in one of the trains.
- Yeah.
- And It's literally just a sea of people and then KJ.
(laughing) - Yeah, exactly.
(laughing) - So much fun.
Did you get much out of it?
- Oh, absolutely I got a lot out of it.
- Yeah.
- I got... More just, you have a point of view of stuff, but also what everybody else's point of view.
I got more when you guys talked about stuff rather than just what I thought of stuff.
- [Rob] I didn't get anything when you talked.
(mumbling) - I was probably that guy that asked too many questions.
- [Rob] It's nice to hear you admit.
- I know.
(laughing) Especially to the political part of stuff.
- People out there that are watching and hear that you're the president of the Fertilizer and Chemicals Association, there are some people that are gonna think a boogeyman.
- Yep.
- What do you them to know?
- It's not all the boogeyman stuff.
We need these products.
There is a reason we're using.
We don't try and over spray in it over apply too much fertilizer.
At the end of the day, we're trying to take care of weeds, we're trying to make this crop grow.
At the end of the day, we wanna make money and expand our farming operations if we can.
But you gotta know that it's a good... We're not over applying products, just over apply.
- Are you glad we're talking in front of a non-ag audience or else I'd be asking you questions like why has the cost of herbicides (exhaling heavily) quadrupled?
- That's been a talking point through the last six months.
- [Rob] Yeah.
- The biggest issue I see with stuff right now is it is global.
Not everyone wants to hear that, but only 10% of the fertilizer used in the whole world is here in the United States is mostly outside.
- Yeah.
- We are talking natural gas prices, stuff like that.
And then just China and Russia right now saying, hey, we're gonna pull back on how much we supply the world, especially restaurant natural gas.
And then you have China on the phosphate market saying we're not gonna export any to any country at least till the middle of this.
- When this error say what you just said might be irrelevant too.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Who knows.
- Yeah, exactly.
- Stuff's are changing pretty quickly, isn't it?
- Yeah.
- And now if people want to find out more about the Illinois Fertilizer and Chemical Association, that really doesn't sound out... IFCA - IFCA.
- IFCA?
- IFCA.
- Is that worse?
Where do they go?
- You can go to ifca.com or you can follow us on Facebook or Twitter, and our handle is at ilfertchem.
- Do you guys have a TikTok?
- We do not have a TikTok.
- Okay.
(laughing) What about if they want to find out about you or your tractor pulling.
- Yeah, you got Facebook also, you can go to built4business.
We are on Facebook and Twitter also.
- Built for Business?
- Built for Business.
- Come on.
- Yeah.
(laughing) - Somehow that was not taken on Twitter, so.
(laughing) - Built for Business.
- I don't even have to pay for it.
- Okay.
All right, KJ Johnson.
Thank you.
- Thank you Rob.
- I know you're incredibly busy - Thank you.
- and I know you're coming off a nutty week, but thank you for coming on here.
I'm sorry for ruining.
(laughing) It was a new shirt and I'm aware of that.
- Yeah.
- I apologize and I hope we can leave that in the past.
- My wife forgives you, so it's all good.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
- All right.
That's not admitting it that you forgive me.
(laughing) KJ Johnson from St. Joseph, Illinois.
Thank you very much.
- Thank you Rob - And everybody else we'll catch you next week.

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