Consider This with Christine Zak Edmonds
S03 E01: Bob Larson & Tom McIntyre
Season 3 Episode 1 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
What’s really behind Bob and Tom’s Excellent Adventures? Find out on Consider This!
With over 100 years of combined experience in the local news business, Bob Larson and Tom McIntyre try to enlighten as well as delight television audiences with little-known stories from throughout Central Illinois. They have a unique relationship, and on Consider This, they share some of what goes into producing Bob and Tom’s Excellent Adventures.
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Consider This with Christine Zak Edmonds
S03 E01: Bob Larson & Tom McIntyre
Season 3 Episode 1 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
With over 100 years of combined experience in the local news business, Bob Larson and Tom McIntyre try to enlighten as well as delight television audiences with little-known stories from throughout Central Illinois. They have a unique relationship, and on Consider This, they share some of what goes into producing Bob and Tom’s Excellent Adventures.
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You have two Peoria icons who get together, to shed light on some generally little known stories from Central Illinois.
I'm Christine Zak-Edmonds, stay tuned.
(upbeat music) Their lives have been anything but ho-hum.
And now Bob Larson and Tom McIntyre join me to discuss their Bob and Tom's excellent adventures.
- Yes we do.
- Yes we are here.
- And I won't say that you're old friends of mine.
I will say long time.
- You just say old and leave it at that.
(Bob and Tom laughing) - Be honest.
Okay, be honest.
- Yes.
- That's right, we're all on social security.
(light hearted chuckling) - Which is kinda nice.
- Yeah - Medicare, ya know.
(All laughing) - There's some advantages.
- So those of you- - You young people should try it sometimes.
- Yeah, I was gonna say for those of you out there still working, keep working.
Okay, ya know.
- 'Cause you're supporting us.
- Yes.
- And we appreciate it.
- I will just try to get one thing in and then you guys just take it away.
We have about- - [Bob Larson] Oh no well that's okay, sorry.
- About 30 minutes.
- [Tom McIntyre] That's not our style certainly.
(All laughing) - All right.
So years ago.
- Yes.
- Do you think it was 2016?
He was thinking maybe it was 2016.
Kevin Harlan finally got you to say yes to do "Bob and Tom."
- [Tom McIntyre] Yeah.
Kevin had asked me.
Kevin... - [Christine] Harlan.
- Harlan, former Station Manager at 31 had asked, he was having, a couple of years before he'd had a kind of an anniversary thing going.
And he would invite people who used to work at the station, to come back, do a show.
It was I think a nice way to get around paying overtime with the current staff.
(light hearted chuckles) But nonetheless ya know, it attracted a certain amount of attention.
And he asked me, I said, "Nah, I was never really, never over there."
"Yeah, but Shelly was, and Shelly was with you.
So Shellys gonna be on so you can be with Shelly."
I said, "No, no, no."
But finally, when I was fully, fully, fully retired, we came back with the idea of teaming Bob and I up.
- [Christine] Doing something.
- I was telling Chris that he came to me first and said - - Wait a minute, he said he came to me first.
- Oh well.
- [Tom McIntyre] Geez.
- He was a good salesman.
Oh I know.
He came to me and says, "What do you think about doing this?"
I said, "You won't get Tom to come over here.
That will never happen but if he does, yeah, I'll be happy to do it."
Well, Here he is.
- [Tom McIntyre] Yeah.
- [Christine] History is made.
- It is, history is made.
The nice part I think from my standpoint, is that we're both retired, so it's great to do it but we do it within the confines of his schedule and mine and whatever.
And that's the way to do these kind of things.
- [Christine] Yeah, and you're having fun doing it?
- [Tom McIntyre] We are.
- [Bob Larson] Yeah, we really are and he is just great.
I mean, he's never left television ya know.
The skills and the creativity, are all still 110 percent.
- Oh geez.
How much am I gonna have to pay you for this?
- Well, no, no, no.
- See no if you can make it for 21 years like I did, then it's really good.
- Yeah.
That's right.
Is that how long you?
- That's how long we were a team.
- Did 21 years together.
We were actually in the newspaper together.
- We were, yeah.
- I still got it on my wall.
- I do too.
Yeah.
Gosh, we matched.
- See.
- We match but it- - She never saw the right side of my face.
That's for sure.
- [Bob Larson] Yeah, that's right (laughing) - [Christine] No, no, I really didn't.
And anytime it seemed that we were together, he would always be on this side.
And I'd go "what the heck?"
- [Tom McIntyre] She didn't recognize me.
- [Bob Larson] Well, I always kidded.
I told my wife this and she always laughed, but it was true for those that anchored.
And especially if you had a co-anchor that was there for a long time.
It was like you had two marriages, one at home and one at the station.
- [Christine] Correct - Because people saw you together- - [Tim McIntyre] Please don't take that the wrong way.
- No, the wrong way, no.
- Okay, just don't take that the wrong way.
- I will say a professional marriage.
- [Christine] Correct.
- Because you did spend more time many times with that person than you did at home.
My wife worked.
So I mean, and I was working second shift.
So there were times where I... - [Christine] You didn't really see each other very often.
- No we didn't.
- And Chris and I sat across from each other to a certain degree at one time or another and I think we did the best thing, is that we didn't try to mix business and personal.
I mean we lived down the street from each other.
- [Christine] Yeah, and I'd look out and he was on that side across (laughing briefly).
- [Tom McIntyre] Well it's kinda strange actually.
- [Bob Larson] No.
But yeah, it was a good relationship.
We got along fine.
The beauty of Christine Zac, well, besides the beauty, - Here we go.
- [Tom McIntyre] Of Christine Zak, is that day she, - [Bob Larson] One of the many things.
- The many, many beauties of Christine Zak, - [Bob Larson] Well yeah, okay.
her memory is phenomenal.
- [Christine] Well, it used to be.
- It used to be.
- Well so is his.
- No, no.
- When it comes to historic things, having worked with him now these last few years.
Sometimes we're talking about something or another, and man he can come up with a date or a something and I think, boy... - [Christine] I am so proud of you.
- Thank you, thank you.
- I'm going to be 73 and he's a little older.
- [Christine] Right And boy, that mind is still.
- Well after I retired, he would call me sometimes, - [Tom McIntyre] Yeah.
- and he would say, okay so this happened, what year was it?
- [Bob Larson] Okay - And I mean, that's the kind of stuff that, - [Tom McIntyre] She does.
She would not only remember what day it happened, she'd remember what she was wearing that day.
(Christine laughing) I'm not kidding.
And the conversation would go something effect.
"Oh boy, that was the day.
I had to take him into school late because he had a dental appointment that morning, so I was wearing the pink dress with the white shirt."
And then we would- - [Bob Larson] So this is as much about you as it is hers.
- "And the dental appointment was two weeks after Chase birthday."
- [Christine] But I digress.
So "Bob and Tom's,' - No I digress.
(brief chuckling) - 'Excellent Adventures."
They were a syndicated radio show for many, many years.
And now isn't it fun that you guys are Bob and Tom and that that worked out that way.
- Except there's a little different concept.
- Just a little different.
- Little different yes.
- Not as off color.
- Yes.
But we have a great camera person that we work with, that also is the editor.
And that was the other thing that it reminded me, many times if he and I reminisced about some big story that happened, he'd remember who the photographer was that he went out on.
See, a lot of times, I hate to say, I couldn't remember who the photographer as good as they were.
So that's why I always defer to him because, - [Tom McIntyre] Bill Marshall.
- Yeah.
Bill Marshall was great.
(laughing synonymously) Yeah.
- Safe bet.
- He really was, he had the same thing.
But anyway, yeah we're having a good time as two old retired guys.
Or somewhat old.
- And the beauty of it so far is, they've placed very few limits on what we can do.
- Yeah.
- Such as?
- Which is why we drove all the way to the Mississippi river.
- For Oquawka?
- Oquawka.
- For Oquawka, yes.
- For the elephant.
- For the elephant, yes.
- See, very good.
You've done your homework.
- We appreciate that.
That was a strange story.
- It was.
- Well go ahead, tell us.
- We get there and we were hoping that we could find people that were still around when that happened.
That would talk.
See, that's the other thing.
It's not that there aren't people around, but a lot of people especially in smaller towns are not really, - [Tom McIntyre] No, they're not.
- They see a camera and they.
(gasping in shock) You know?
- [Christine] They think it's 60 minutes.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Mike Wallace thing or something.
- And to be honest, this had happened quite a few years ago.
- Yeah, it did.
- Okay.
Here's the 30 second story.
The elephant died during a thunderstorm struck by the lightning in Oquawka, Illinois on the Mississippi river, a very small circus.
The elephant was the star attraction.
The circus had to move on.
They buried the elephant in the town park.
- [Bob Larson] Yes Got a bulldozer, pulled out a hole, pushed the elephant in, covered it up, moved away.
A couple of local, cronies decided they would celebrate this - Yeah.
and put up a monument to the elephant.
- Which is still there.
- Which is still there.
And it's occasionally visited and a small article, - [Christine] And there's a nice little grave marker.
- And you can find it if you can find the swimming pool, the city swimming pool or the town swimming pool.
- It's in the park.
- In the park.
- It's right there outside of the swimming pool.
- All right.
- And so we did that, but we were hoping that they still had booklets and things.
But it had been sometimes since... - The fame has died, I'm sorry to say.
- The fame has died along with the elephant.
- But what you did interview someone and they are bringing some of that history back.
- Well, we found a young man who went to Southern Illinois university.
Who had made a movie about the death of the elephant.
And on the basis of that movie had gotten an Oscar, a student Oscar.
- [Bill Larson] Yeah, can you imagine that?
- [Christine] No, that's the crazy.
- Yeah that's the other part of it.
- And had parlayed that into a career in Hollywood, and still lived in Hollywood, still was making movies.
Mostly children's movies by the way.
And so he agreed to do a Zoom interview with us.
He was fun.
I mean, he still remembered.
This was his big break was the dead elephant.
(Christine laughing) - [ Bob Larson] And that was the other part of it.
- But it didn't do a lot for Oquawka, but it did do a lot his career.
- Yeah.
I was just gonna say that that's the other part of the story.
It wasn't just a dead elephant buried near a swimming pool.
It actually caused this guy to have quite a career.
But there was one thing when you and I talked earlier, the positive things about change in television.
Now thank God for YouTube and the internet and all that, because you can find all kinds of things-- - [Tom McIntyre] It never dies.
- It never dies.
There's always something including old newscast.
- Oh God, yeah.
(Bob laughs) - We used to have a funny tape.
- [Tom McIntyre] I left those behind, I don't know, - Did you?
- [Bob Larson] Did you really?
- [Tom McIntyre] 31 had... - We did have a lot of those kind of things.
- [Christine] He was the one that did all that boy, he caught us all in a lot of.
- [Bob Larson] In the old days.
And this was almost going back to film days when the station had their yearly Christmas party.
They had a gag reel, - Mhh hmm.
- And first it was on film and then it was on tape and they would show that, and it was outtakes of things that didn't go right or just whatever.
- [Tom McIntyre] A lot of those.
- Yeah, a lot of those.
And it was purely in house, never to be seen by the general public.
But you do concern yourself sometimes if somebody has that and they just put it up on the internet.
(laughs) But I have never seen that kind of thing.
- That's 'cause you weren't in England.
I sold all of my stuff while I was in England.
(Bob laughs) They wouldn't be shown in the United States.
- [Christine] Okay.
So you guys been doing this, - Christine is recognized in London by the way sorry to say.
- But I was blonde so.
So what's been the most fun that you guys have had together in this time you've spent together because really you were competition.
- Yeah.
For so many years.
- For years and years.
- But always friendly competition.
- Let me, if I may tell little story.
- I wouldn't stop you for the world.
- Okay, this is a true story.
Or I wouldn't tell you see.
Small world, okay.
His parents and my parents knew each other back in the 1930s.
- From Morris and Chenoa.
- Chenoa.
No, in either one of those places.
- No, my folks were in Farmer City.
- As were mine.
- Okay.
- [Christine] Crazy, And my dad and my mom were co-managers of the Hornsby's store.
I don't know if you're remember, there used to be one here in Madison Park many, many years ago.
- [Christine] Right.
- That's probably before your time when you were here.
- [Christine] I think it was.
- And that was my uncle that owned those.
So my dad got a job working for him.
And in the thirties they were managing that.
His parents were down in Farmer City.
- My father was running a gas station.
- Gas station.
So they knew each other's small town.
So now crank ahead all of these years.
And when I came down here, my dad says, "Do you ever see Tom on the air?"
I said, he's on radio.
Well eventually of course he ended up on television.
- [Christine] Right.
- And so it's just strange that all those years before our parents knew each other and socialized.
(Tom whistling "In the Twilight Zone") And here we ended up being competitors and it's just, it's strange world.
- [Christine] Stranger things have happened.
- It really has.
- But you do enjoy each other's company.
- [Bob Larson] We do.
And, but like I say, and we have a good cameraman editor, whatever that it's great to work with.
That's half of it too.
And because you need somebody that's going to be able to.
- Make our foolishness look like a solid story that people have worked tirelessly day and night on.
(giddy laughing) Which in many cases is not the case.
- Well, and in fact, - We're flying by the seat of our pants - Well let me tell you tell you, that we did go back and start doing some of these stories.
There was months we didn't, the first part of the pandemic.
Then we did.
But that was when you still had to wear a face mask all the time.
- [Christine] The mask.
Right.
- So he had to get creative in how we did stand-ups for instance.
so that we weren't standing, - [Christine] To be socially distanced.
- 20 feet apart.
- 20 Feet apart, but he shot it in such a way and edited it.
So it didn't look like, - [Christine] Awkward.
- Awkward.
- Yeah.
- But ya know, so we did some of that during that.
Now of course things are letting up a little bit.
There were some interesting ones.
I don't know what he's going to say are interesting, (Christine laughing) but one of 'em was over in Pontiac.
- Oh yeah, that's fun.
- That was one of my favorites.
I'm not saying the favorite, but one of my favorites.
Because I grew up in Morris, which is not that far from Pontiac.
- [Christine] Correct.
- And we went over there and I came home from an event that I was attending, I should say.
And I came back on the old 66.
I hadn't done that in a long time.
And I went through there and I thought, "I can't believe that Pontiac is kind of re done itself."
- [Tom McIntyre] Yeah.
They have kept capitalized on the fact that they are on 66 and they've got the museum and they've got businesses coming in.
And the Mayor, as he told us, had a phone that speaks 43 different languages and he uses all of them because he has guests coming, twice a week the bus stops.
- [Christine] Right From Chicago.
- From Chicago.
It's big with Japanese tourists.
It's big with European tourist, take route 66.
You can take it from Chicago to LA as the song goes and people come out and they tour part of Route 66.
And one of the first stops, - [Christine] Is Pontiac.
- is in Pontiac, Illinois, Route 66 museum, then they've got the Auburn.
- [Bob Larson] The auto.
- Auto museum.
- Auto museum.
- They've got a place that does gold.
They've got all kinds of souvenirs.
- It's become a tourist spot, - Yeah, who knew?
which it was never.
- I was a prison.
- Well, yeah.
- well, yeah.
In Caterpillar.
I mean seriously, it didn't have those other things because 66, yes in the fifties, it was big for people, but they didn't have all those museums.
But suddenly they have this.
Now if my memory serves me correctly, we went there on a Monday, which sometimes Monday.
Boy, we get there and here comes the bus.
- Proceeded by the Mayor welcoming them.
- Yes.
- [Christine] And you didn't plan on talking to the Mayor, that just happened.
- [Bob Larson] Well yeah, but not, we didn't know the bus was going to be there.
And here it's 10 o'clock or whatever in the morning and they get off.
So we talked to some of them.
Many of whom can speak English too, but they're all from somewhere else.
But it was just like, here's this little town ya know, in Illinois.
- [Christine] In Illinois, - and all of these tourists just can't wait to get off and enjoy this part of the tour.
So it was really a plus for them.
And in fact, we went over there was a, I believe he was from China.
That was an artist, - Mhh hmm, right.
- that actually moved there.
So that he could be part.
- [Christine] To Pontiac?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
So he, oddly enough paints things like car hoods.
And he paints women's garments in black light.
It's an esoteric kind of art.
(Christine laughing) I don't know if he's still there folks, if you're looking for that sort of thing.
- But he was making a living apparently.
That was an interesting thing.
That was not the Pontiac that I remembered.
- [Christine] Right, no, I remember a gas station.
- [Bob Larson] Okay - Basically.
- Well, and then he eventually was on 55 when it came through there.
But so that was an interesting, it was an hour away, but it was an interesting thing.
And it was something we could tell people about and say, "Hey, maybe you didn't know either that Pontiac has all this going for it."
- Has all this history.
- If you're looking for a little day's trip.
- We're not doing, - [Christine] That's the purpose.
- breaking news, obviously.
We're finding the stories we think that are interesting.
And that people probably don't know.
The thing about the little Piper Cub in Pekin airport.
- [Bob Larson] Yes, right.
- Which led to the Steerman story.
- Yeah, the steerman over in Hillsberg.
- [Christine] I saw that, right.
- He actually went up in the plane.
- [Christine] I know, he told me that.
- He's daring man.
- No, no, no, they're very safe planes.
- No, they're very safe, but no.
So we've done a lot of fun things I call 'em or historic, and I'm sure you get the same reaction, somebody will stop me in the store and say ya know, "I forgot about that" Or "That was interest thing that you did that story" because, - [Tim McIntyre] Always looking for ideas, send the Christine's yeah, care of... - And I will get them on "Consider This" as well, how's that?
And we can, we can do this whole.
- Sure.
- But anyway, so we're always looking for ideas.
You can send them in care of what the newsroom.
- [Christine] You can send them to me.
- Yeah, why not.
- Yeah, just... - You don't think they'd steal them from us, do you?
- Well, I hope not.
They're doing ya know, - I know - hard news or that kind of thing, but this is again, fun stuff.
- This is not controversial.
- [Christine] This is still real news.
- Yeah, it's not really controversial.
It's just stuff you can sit back and enjoy.
And that's what we are here for.
- It is our history.
- It is.
And a lot of it, it's been forgotten and especially for younger people, they didn't know about it.
- [Christine] No idea.
Right - They didn't know about it.
- So we're working on some things and I'm not gonna reveal them 'cause I don't have permission yet.
- You get permission?
- [Tim McIntyre] Yes.
(Bob laughing) - Just saying.
(Bob and Tom laughing) But it is fun.
- [Tom McIntyre] Like I never.
- It is fun to allow people learn about roots and we don't wanna lose that because history is really the only thing we have.
- [Bob Larson] Well, it is.
- And build on it.
- [Bob Larson] I have, like I said, teenage grandson now and I tell him about some things and he goes, "Gee, I didn't know that."
And my grandson is, - You don't get an eye roll with it?
(both laughing) - [Christine] Well, there is that he is 15.
- My grandson though has turned in to be sort of a historic.
He enjoys looking back on events and that kind of thing.
Which I thought was kind of strange at 14, but he really does.
So I'll tell him, "Hey, we got this coming up" or that coming up.
But I think especially the older audience really enjoys because they were here, some lived through it.
But even those that weren't here, we try to make it interesting so that as you said, they find out something they didn't know about.
- [Christine] Camp Ellis.
- [Tom McIntyre] Right.
Camp Ellis.
- I had no idea that the 2200 huts were built.
- There was a very big plant.
- [Christine] That's a lot.
- Very big Army basins.
It was thousands of people going through training and they demolished 10,000 acres of Illinois farmland to build it.
And they built it in a hurry and it was just an amazing, and then the war is over, it's gone just poof.
- [Christine] Right.
And the people didn't know why it was called camp Ellis back in the day.
- [Tim McIntyre] I'm sure they did.
- Well, no, I mean now.
- Oh well no - Back in the day they knew because they were just recovering from the depression, correct?
- Right.
I mean it was a huge economic boom for that neck of the woods.
There are people who drove 80 miles to apply for jobs there.
It couldn't have been a coming bad thing.
War couldn't have come at a better time.
But in point of fact, they really needed this training center.
And there it was, that the Camp Ellis Museum folks have told us that they're as busy now as they've ever been with people bringing in things.
Perhaps to a certain degree.
- [Christine] Because of the pandemic, - The pandemic has got people going through the stuff in the attic and looking and finding pictures.
We were there and people are still bringing in stuff.
- Yeah.
And then they catalog it and whatever, but almost to the point that they have lots of stuff, not that they still don't want.
- [Christine] Keeping history alive.
- Keeping history alive.
But it's also interesting to see the town now very quiet.
And to think that there were thousands of people there and what the traffic situations might have been.
- [Christine] With those big old cars, and buses.
- Well, with all of that going on ya know.
Cause' the town was not built for having thousands and thousands of people, but that, again, as Tom said, after the war was over.
- By the way, Peoria was off limits to those folks.
- [Christine] Oh really?
And why is that?
- Peoria had a red light district.
- [Christine] Oh, okay.
- Peoria had liquor.
- We were sin city, weren't we?
- [Tom McIntyre] We were, matter of fact, there was before camp Ellis was being built, after they had been said that they were, there was a town meeting in Peoria saying, let's clean up this town and get things straight.
And I'm sure that the bottom line was there's thousands of soldiers who could be buying their goods in Peoria.
- Well, and that brings me to about the same time where a lot of people didn't know that out on the North side of town on 29, when you go past McCluggage bridge at one time out there.
And we did a story on that.
The amusement.
- [Christine] Averyville?
- Big amusement park out there.
- [Christine] Right on the river.
- Yeah, right on the river.
And now there's... - Virtually nothing.
- Nothing.
We went out there and it was like, (sighs) ya know.
But we had pictures that we could show people.
- And thanks to the Peoria public library.
- Yes.
(Christine laughs) And probably historical society too, because they have a lot of stuff.
- [Christine] Exactly.
- But I mean it's things that people either forgot about or they didn't know anything about.
- [Christine] Right.
- And so that's what we do.
It's not controversial or anything we just try to hear what happened.
- Do you want controversy?
(Bob laughs) - No, I'd rather not.
- [Christine] He could find you some.
- He could find us some.
(laughing briefly) - So how do you decide who's going to start?
Because sometimes it's you reading the intro or.. - [Bob Larson] It's just back and forth.
It's just back and forth.
- I don't think there's, if I write the script, I've kept a good part for myself.
And then I back time think, okay, that.
(laughing enthusiastically) - Hey, this is the beauty part of being retired.
You know what, - It doesn't matter.
- nobody wants any glory.
- [Christine] You don't need the airtime.
- You don't need the airtime.
In fact I laugh because Sean Newell, who is now the VP General Manager.
- [Christine] Right.
Well, we didn't know that a few months ago.
And he had told me when I was in there for some other reason.
And this was before he was named.
- [Tim McIntyre] You weren't trying to get a raise or anything?
- No.
(laughing briefly) - [Christine] He said he's never been off the payroll there since he started in 1971.
- [Bob Larson] It's just amazing that, because you know, anyway.
- If that were true everywhere.
- If that were true everywhere.
- It wasn't for us.
- No.
- Anyway, but he did tell me, he said you know, that there is money because he was the News Director He says, "There is money in the budget for next year, but we don't know who the General Manager is going to be.
And of course that person has the final say."
- [Christine] Right.
- Well he is that person.
- [Tim McIntyre] Yeah, so.
- So I guess we're good for the year.
- [Tim McIntyre] Good for you Sean.
- [Christine] Serendipity.
- Keep us in the budget, baby.
(light hearted laughing) - Well, you too.
- My heart felt clean.
(light hearted laughing) - You enjoy being with one another and you're still learning about each other too.
- Yeah.
We've learned.
Because he's married to Martha and he has gotten very involved in Rotary.
- I'll put in a plug now if you want.
- Yes, do.
- Oh no, I don't.
I should, join the Rotary.
- Well, hey this is PBS.
- [Christine] Friday downtown.
- Fridays downtown.
- Yeah Fridays.
- Or if you wanna go to Sean Newell, our boss's club.
That's Thursday up in Northern Peoria.
- But they do all kinds of great things.
So he's busy with things on the side.
He gives a little talks and does stuff like that.
And now he's taken over something that I did for many years but because of my wife's situation, we can't go anymore.
He's taken over the trips.
- [Tim McIntyre] Yeah - At the station, which is nice.
He and Martha can go on these trips and they've gone to a few places.
- Join me and my wife.
- In fact you have something going on.
- Yeah, we're gonna do the via rail Canada trip.
- There you go.
- The rail's one day.
- It's a wonderful trip too.
- It's a trip out to the west coast.
- I See we've got a plug in here.
- [Christine] He's shameless.
Just shameless.
- Shameless.
Oh I know.
- Why I'm I not surprised.
- Hey, listen, you worked with him all these years.
You Should have known.
- And you were saying when I was pregnant, I was so afraid that my children would think that he was the father 'cause they heard his voice more than they heard my husband.
- You hear about that where they could guess.
This did happen.
- Fortunately.
- This did happen.
- They got it figured out.
- This did happen Once.
We used to have consultants that would try to come in and tell you all the great things you should or shouldn't do.
- Oh yes.
I remember consultants.
- Anyway, that's another story.
But I remember that they wanted us.
If I was reading a story and the Co-Anchor was over here, that when I got done, I was the turn and then she would be like Tom is now looking at at me.
- [Christine] Looking at you and then turning the camera.
- Door angle.
- Well see that's where we got into trouble.
That was not what we intended to do.
- [Christine] Right.
It made a nice.
- [Christine] Transition.
- Transition.
- [Christine] Correct.
The trouble is we started getting mail that said, you are making eyes at her and this kind of thing and she's looking at me.
- Did we ever do that.
- I don't think we got that I'm pretty sure.
- We did and so I thought, well I guess, - [Tim McIntyre] I think our camera changes were quicker than that - we're doing it too well.
- Right, well, there you go.
- So it's funny 'cause you gotta be careful.
- He's catching up now.
- Yes, he's catching up.
- So you guys look at one another adoringly, - No - because we're out of time.
- Oh really?
- Is it gone by?
- [Christine] Yeah, we'll do another one.
- Oh we all have to, maybe four or five.
- We can do that, we can do that.
So thank you very much for joining us.
You learned a lot more about these two guys.
They are clowns and they are good people.
- Thank you.
- Have a good evening and stay safe and healthy.
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