♪ Gavin> Welcome to This Week in South Carolina.

I'm Gavin Jackson.

This week, we're looking at primary results from Tuesday's primary.

Who won, who lost and who's heading to a runoff and what it means for the state.

And to do that, we're doing it with someone that everyone knows.

Jeffrey Collins, the Associated Press.

Jeffrey, welcome back to This Week in South Carolina.

Jeffrey> Thank you.

Have I gotten enough punches on my card to get the free tote bag?

Gavin> Not yet, Jeffrey, But if you become a member, we can hook you up with some swag easily, but Jeffrey, we're taping this episode on Wednesday, the day after the primary elections, which we saw several key congressional races happen.

Of course, there are no statewide races, so that really didn't help drive turnout much.

We saw turnout about 13.5%.

Primaries are never really big vote getters, but still pretty lackluster right there.

But let's talk about congressional races since they were the biggest races on the ticket.

Down in the Low country, the first congressional District, we saw Republican incumbent Nancy Mace fend off challengers Catherine Templeton and Bill Young by wide margins.

She won that race outright.

No runoff needed there.

She also got the major endorsements from the governor and former President Donald Trump.

So tell us about that race and maybe some surprises all coming out of there.

Jeffrey> I think the margin was a surprise.

I don't know necessarily that Nancy Mace coming out with the win was a surprise, but the margin was a surprise.

And just, you know, I think the first lesson that gets learned by the political establishment in South Carolina should be don't come at Nancy Mace from her right.

I mean, they've done it a couple of times and she's won pretty handily.

I think the other interesting lesson may be for Nancy Mace herself.

I mean, you know, everything that she did over this second term, when you get more than 50%, 6% of the vote, that's kind of the voters telling you we're good with all that.

And I'm sure Nancy Mace will hear that loud and clear.

And I mean, and then there becomes a point where the longer you're there, you know, the things that people complain about are like, "Oh, she's this or that", all of a sudden become nice quirks.

She becomes your congresswoman.

She becomes that person that you know, that we know well and everything.

Now, eventually you can wear out your...welcome Mark Sanford would tell you that.

Bob Inglis would tell you that.

But right now, I mean, Nancy Mace still in very well should be on top of the world.

She chose right.

She got back in favor of Trump.

The whole Kevin McCarthy thing barely made a dent.

So, you know, she's got to feel really good right now.

Gavin> Yeah, there's a lot of outside millions of dollars of outside money in that race, too.

And again, still wide margins there for her to win by especially against Catherine Templeton, who was her biggest challenger.

She was that 2018 gubernatorial candidate who unsuccessfully waged that campaign against McMaster back then, too.

So very surprising, but also not surprising, I think, empowering, like we're saying, because we do start to see that that character development when we talk about South Carolina politicians and she's well on her way at this point.

Jeffrey> I mean, I think you know who, well, you know, who Nancy Mace is to a certain extent.

I mean, she may do something surprising tomorrow.

I think that's just kind of part of her independent streak that's in her.

But, I mean, ultimately, she is establishing herself as a force in South Carolina politics, no doubt.

Gavin> Yeah.

One of those eight Republicans that voted to oust McCarthy, like you're talking about.

But then also a lot of turmoil in that office, too.

So we'll see how things go going forward.

Of course, she'll go on to face Democrat Michael Moore, who narrowly defeated Mac Deford to be the Democratic nominee.

But like all Democrats in these contested races in the Congress, besides the 6th congressional district, that's an uphill battle because the US Supreme Court just made that district more conservative upholding that redrawn congressional map.

Jeffrey> So South Carolina, I mean, we seem pretty locked into 6 - 1.

Six Republicans, one Democrat for a while.

I mean, there are some outside forces that can happen.

I mean, Joe Cunningham ran a very good campaign and had some local issues that helped him out.

But I mean, that's a very much an uphill climb.

And it's just redistricting across South Carolina has been like that.

The theme of the 2020 redistricting was to make the conservative districts, more conservative and more of them, and also makes the Democratic districts more liberal.

But there's very few of those ultimately in comparison.

So the redistricting, in we just we will end up in a situation here where and I think Scott Huffmon, the Winthrop professor, mentioned it yesterday, where we have primaries are where the action is and where the decisions are made and where we choose our candidates as voters.

Gavin> Yeah, we saw that.

And of course, when we're talking about such big decisions in that low turnout, it's a recipe for folks who really want to get back into office to do so and say, "Oh, we can get this settled at the ballot box."

Well, you're talking about gerrymandering.

You're talking about certain things in play.

It's a little bit more difficult to make your voice heard.

But of course, that's the way it goes in the state.

So, but let's go up to the upstate, Jeffrey, with the fourth Congressional District, a very hot race right there.

We're talking about Green-, Greenville and Spartanburg counties.

We had a challenge there with House Freedom Caucus chairman Representative Adam Morgan, who said that Congressman William Timmons was not conservative enough for a fourth term, even though he had a very strong conservative voting record here.

What happened in that race?

Jeffrey> It's very, you know, it was very interesting.

William Timmons, if he's not the most conservative US House member in South Carolina, he's certainly very at the very top of the list.

You know, he had the Trump endorsement, too.

And ultimately, though, you know, he still squeaked by.

I mean, we talk about Nancy Mace at 56, Timmons was around 52%.

I just think in some ways, for whatever reason, William Timmons is one of those people that he's always going to have to be in a tussle in the Republican primaries, always going to have to have a fight there because for whatever reason, he just doesn't click in, you know, the way an incumbent typically clicks in that district.

And keep in mind, they do churn through people in that district.

You mentioned, I mentioned Bob Inglis earlier.

That was his district until it wasn't.

I mean, once he, once the voters in there were convinced he wasn't conservative enough?

You know, Trey Gowdy just whacks them.

And I mean, so that's a part of it, too, is that's just a very conservative place where I don't think the voters are ever fully satisfied.

I mean, even if you look at statehouse races, the statehouse turns more in the upstate than it does in the Low country, Pee Dee or anywhere else.

They just...so, ...new candidates come in and win more often than they do in other places.

Gavin> Yeah, And, of course, when you saw Adam Morgan really challenging him from further right of part of the House Freedom Caucus, the fringe of the House Freedom Caucus, when I heard Timmons really talking about how he is in line with a lot of those folks who will represent the Freedom Caucus up in D.C. and he's worked with leadership.

He's not the loudest voice in the room, but he's one that's pragmatic and gets things done.

We even see that, we saw the governor on the campaign trail with him on Monday, which was fascinating to see because the governor didn't get involved in too many races.

But he did involve also in the third Congressional district race with Jeff Duncan's open seat there, too.

Of course, Jeff Duncan retiring because of some marital issues that threw off his family values vibe.

And that was something that was also in play, too, in the fourth Congressional District with William Timmons, his marriage falling apart as well during his time.

So that was a big push to get maybe see an opening there with Adam Morgan.

But of course, that fell flat.

But over in Jeff Duncan's district, in the third district, also in the upstate, very conservative, there were seven candidates in that wide open range, Jeffrey.

(laughs) I mean, how did you see that play out?

You know, you had the spectrum of folks on the ideological, ideological spectrum there.

>> Yeah.

You had a sweep of people.

But ultimately what did we come down to?

Sheri Biggs, who is a nurse practitioner who is endorsed by Governor Henry McMaster.

He's been friends with the Biggs family for a while.

They're donors.

And on the other side, you got Mark Burns, the pastor who has been in Donald Trump's corner before he became the Republican presidential nominee in 2016.

So, you know, in the end, when it sorted out, it ended up being the probably the two biggest factions in the Republican Party and factions that in the Venn diagram overlap quite a bit.

I mean, you know, both the Henry McMaster and Donald Trump will tell you they're good friends.

Gavin> Yeah.

Jeffrey> So that's going to be the question is can that estab-, more establishment kind of Republican that McMaster represents, is that going to win the day in the third or are people wanting like that kind of firebrand that's going to go up there and...make waves and pound the fist and fully, thoroughly support Trump?

I mean, everybody all Republicans mostly have supported Trump, but he has a little extra benefit to it.

So is that going to be what wins the day?

The third is going to be a very interesting probably the most interesting of, well, all of the...the only congressional runoff we have.

Gavin> There we go.

Yes, yes.

And of course, we're going to see that on June 25th.

So any idea of maybe how that might consolidate when we look at those seven candidates now going down to two, when we're talking about Sheri Biggs and Mark Burns?

Mark Burns, who also ran against William Timmons at one time is a primary challenge.

And now, I guess, getting to this runoff for the third Congressional District.

Jeffrey> The third time was the charm for Mark Burns.

He lost twice in the fourth District before running in the third this time around.

It's a good question.

I mean, you could probably make an argument that the Stuart Jones supporter would be someone that would be, who finished third, would be someone that might move more into the Burns corner, but maybe not.

And the, you know, Kevin Bishop, the former communications director for Lindsey Graham, you know, his people, you might think would be more establishment, but maybe not.

There's and there's probably going to be a lot of money put into play.

Both, both candidates have been willing to loan their campaigns a lot of money.

And you imagine that's going to continue in the runoff.

And with such a sprawling spread out district, I mean, it's hard to see.

It's...you can, the door knocking everything.

But, you know,...that district is probably 100 miles from one side to the other.

That's a lot of territory to have to cover on in two weeks.

So I suspect you'll see a ton of cash and a ton of TV.

Gavin> Yeah, turnouts could be key there, especially in these runoffs.

Of course, even fewer people vote in runoffs, too.

So, a lot of work ahead for the third congressional District for the Republicans, at least.

But we're going to, let's go to the State house really quick, Jeffrey, at the South Carolina Senate, it's said to be younger, and more male more conservative come next session due in part to the ousting of two of the...several so-called sister senators.

And then a third is now in a runoff, too.

I'm talking about Kershaw Republican Senator Penry Gustafson, who lost to Allen Blackmon, Johns Island, Republican Senator Sandy Senn, which if a recount confirms, will have lost it represented Matt Lieber by 31 votes, and Lexington Republican Senator Katrina Shelley, who's facing a June 25th runoff against Carlisle Kennedy.

So tell me about the Senate, what we saw in play with those Republican women and how that's shaking out.

Jeffrey> Can't ignore abortion.

I mean, that, that's the whole that's what brought the sister senators together was the...the coalesce to fight a total a near-total abortion ban in South Carolina.

And even though there are a couple of Republicans, male senators who joined in that effort, they don't, you don't hear much about them.

But the sister senators, you know, they got the John F. Kennedy Profile and Courage Award.

They didn't hesitate to appear with each other and to talk about what they did.

And that kind of attention, I think, is at least a pretty significant role, obviously, in that.

That's the link that kind of bonds, the three of them to a certain extent.

But I mean, there are some other factors, too.

I mean, Senator, Gus-, Penry Gustafson, she's you know, her district got redistricted and basically the main component of her support got pulled out of her district and she never was able to kind of regain her footing on that.

You know, Sandy Senn has had an up and down kind of relationship with her own party.

And it's funny, you know, again, to go back to redistricting, Sandy Senn had a race where she won by just a couple of percentage points in 2020 as a Democrat.

So when they redrew a district, they made it more conservative sending more usual Republican voters.

But that opened her up from attack from the right.

And Katrina Shealy, she... 60% of the voters in her district did not vote for her.

You know, she got 40% of the vote.

Second place, Carlisle Kennedy was about 34%.

So she's got our work cut out for her.

I mean, can you win from that position in a runoff?

Certainly you can.

Does it make it really hard because suddenly there's all these forces against you.

She's going to need to work at it.

Gavin> Yeah.

And you were talking about that District 41 race with Sandy Senn and Matt Lieber and Senator Senn spent $246,000 where she had raised that much, whereas Lieber raised $102,000.

So again, really just showing how much that abortion vote really played out there, too, when we're talking about the near-total abortion ban.

But so does that mean, Jeffrey, looking forward to the next session?

You know, senators are up every four years that we're going to possibly see a more conservative abortion bill go through the State house when we talk about a near-total abortion ban that they helped prevent before.

Now, it seems like the votes are there to prevent a filibuster.

Jeffrey> The chances certainly increased.

I think there's still some more questions out there.

There are two Senate runoffs for open seats in the upstate where there's a pretty decent delineation between a little less conservative candidate and a little more conservative candidate.

And each one, each time, a little bit more conservative candidate wins, the chances of this happening go up.

So, I mean, I think it's going to be one of those deals where the leadership in the House and especially the Senate are going to wait until November and see where everything stands.

But yeah, I mean, I certainly I wouldn't be surprised if abortion becomes an issue next year, especially with the trends the way that they're going right now.

Gavin> We have a couple of minutes left, Jeffrey.

I want to wrap up with the Senate.

Over on the Democratic side, we saw State Representative Russell Ott's gamble to upset Senator Dick Harpootlian here in the Midlands District 26, which was also redrawn down even to Calhoun County, which really helped favor Russell Ott there.

A bit of a gamble, like we're saying, but it paid off for him.

Walk us through that race, because it was kind of a surprise to see.

Jeffrey> You know, it tells you that old school, local politics works.

I mean, if you look at the numbers, Calhoun County turned out amazingly strong for Russell Ott.

And it made up the difference because, you know, Dick Harpootlian did win by a smaller margin.

Lexington County and Richland County.

But, you know, Ott has been in Calhoun County all his life, along with his dad.

They're very well known and they turned out in droves.

And, you know, most of Harpootlian's campaigning, was trying to point out that Ott may not be a strong voice to protect abortion.

But, you know, that kind of TV and mass media campaign just didn't take root.

It was that local go knock on 4000 doors kind of thing that worked out for Russ a lot and, you know, give him credit.

I mean, you know, he had a very safe House seat, but he decided to walk off the cliff and he ended up flying.

So that's, that's, that's an impressive feat.

Gavin> Every House members dream, right?

Jeffrey> Well, they would disagree with me, but yeah, I think you're probably right.

Gavin> Speaking of the House.

Jeffrey> Maybe other than Murrell Smith.

He...had a chance to run, but no, you know, he passed on that open... Gavin> It'll be interesting to see because Russell did support some of those abortion motions over in the House.

So I'm sure once push comes to shove and we're talking about a near-total abortion ban being inches away, he'll side with the Democrats and really probably object to that at that point.

It's hard to say, but we'll see Jeffrey> That's the difference when you have a little bit of cushion and where the margins are very slim in the Senate.

I mean, right now they're one seat away from a two thirds majority, which they wouldn't have to worry about filibusters.

So, yeah, being a senator, you don't have as many places to hide behind a vote as you do when you're one of the, you know, one of more than 100 people in the House.

Gavin> Speaking of the House Jeffrey, a big upset over in the House was a win for the House Freedom Caucus, that far right group of Republicans in the chamber.

And that was labor, Commerce secretary, Labor, Commerce Industry Committee Chairman Bill Sandifer, who was ousted by Freedom Caucus, endorsed candidate Adam Duncan, who's a wrestling coach from Seneca who's never held office before.

So big move there, talking about those outsiders in the upstate, really kind of driving a lot of these folks.

And that throws the LCI committee in flux, too, because not only was he the chairman of that committee, which really oversees a lot of utility regulation bills, some big ones going through right now too.

But the vice chair of that committee, Belton Republican Representative Jay West, who is also the House assistant majority leader, also lost.

So a lot of things happening in the House.

Talk to us about those races and what it means for the House Freedom Caucus.

>> Well, there are some retirements on the LCI committee, too.

I mean, the LCI committee, the Republican members, and they are just mostly gone.

So I think you'll see a pretty big overhaul of that.

They're probably going have to find somebody from another committee to come in and be the be the chairman or the chairwoman of that committee.

But you know, ultimately the state House races were interesting because the Freedom Caucus held its own.

And for them, that's a win at this point.

I mean, you know, two years ago, they ran races kind of under the radar.

They won.

They got their foothold into the Republican Party in the House politics.

This year they could not run.

They could not hide.

They had to run out in the open.

They had a lot of money and forces behind the establishment Republicans and they held about the same number of seats, maybe added one.

We'll see how everything shakes out when people decide they're going to say they are Freedom Caucus members say they aren't.

But, you know, it just goes to show you that while Freedom Caucus members struggled in a wide geographic area like the third Congressional District or the fourth Congressional District, when you put them in a much smaller thing though, 170 little mini races we have in South Carolina across the General Assembly, they can still be a force and they can, you know, obviously it goes back to gerrymandering and the way districts are drawn.

They're small enough, turnout is small enough that you're going to have the most conservative people show up, you know, for the 10% of the people that show up in the district to vote.

And as long as that happens, I think the Freedom Caucus is probably here to stay, at least for a little while.

Gavin> Yeah.

definitely got some wind in their shelves, too, especially when you're talking about, excuse me, how much money that the House Republican Caucus put into these races too.

I'm talking about millions of dollars.

And again, you're talking about how the Freedom Caucus held their own there, too.

So a little bit of a shot across the bow there for the Republicans in the House.

Jeffrey> And, you know, Governor Henry McMaster actually went out and campaigned for like Jay West and some other people.

He had some wins.

He had some losses.

Kind of like everybody did.

But I mean, just the fact that they drove McMaster, who's a you know, an old school Republican, believes in that 11th commandment, that thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.

They got him to rouse up and make these endorsements says something.

Gavin> That...commandment has been out the window for a while now, right?

Jeffrey> Well, yes, I think Henry McMaster still believes in it.

Yeah, you have to be.

It tends to be more of an old school kind of Reagan remembering Republican that goes that direction.

Gavin> Well, Jeffrey, a lot to watch.

And of course...like we were talking about, we have some June 25th primaries, runoffs, you should say, and then, of course, the fall when we'll see those races shake out too That's State house guru, Jeffrey Collins with the Associated Press.

Jeffrey, thanks as always, Jeffrey> Thank you.. Gavin> Now for further primary analysis, here's some highlights from our election night show.

Drew McKissick> Well, to begin with, low turnout.

Elections to begin with are about turnout.

And as you pointed out in early voting, it's up about 20,000 votes over what it was in 22.

Republicans outvoted Democrats about two thirds.

So, 80 thousand to 40 thousand, generally.

And it's interesting to see where the turnout's up versus where it's not up or even down.

It's up obviously in the upstate.

We have a third and the fourth congressional District, very hotly contested primary races there.

But you've also got a lot of state House and state Senate primaries going on in that area as well.

And some of those counties in the third in the fourth turnout has been up either double or even triple what it was in, you know, two years ago versus the other areas of the state and even the low country where it's been down or a little flat, which is interesting because you have that hotly contested primary in the first district and they spent about $9 million and turnout seems to be flat.

So I don't know what that says yet.

We'll look at the rest of the numbers tonight.

Gavin> What do you...see when you have these wide open races in the third congressional District?

Obviously, it's anyone's to go after.

So we were talking about just having a wide spectrum of folks up there.

What do you see when it comes to the Republican Party in South Carolina, specifically the upstate, in terms of what messaging is registering with folks?

Drew> Well, obviously, it's the more conservative area of the state, say, versus the Low country.

And, you know, you have an element of populism up there, too, but you got a lot of candidates.

And so it's kind of hard really to tease anything out of this probably until we get to a runoff, which is probably what we're looking at there.

You know, shake them up in a hat right now.

I think the top three leaders right now, I don't know if you can pick which two are going to be in the runoff.

I think it's going to be very close.

And but, you know, it's we live in an age of a nationalization of politics now.

And so the issues that move people in, you know, across the country are some of the same issues that move people here.

It's, you know, the border.

It's immigration, it's the economy, it's interest rates and so forth, and it's, it's changed what is used to motivate voters a lot more only in recent years, just because media is 24/7 now, and it's all national.

Maayan> I want to ask you about the State house, because that's where a lot of my interest lies in.

Republicans have had great success in the last two cycles in 2020, with five seats, three in the Senate, two in the House.

I don't really need to remind you, probably.

Drew> I can quote them for you.

Maayan> And then in 2022, you all had a very successful year in the House, in districts that I mean, Democrats probably.

Drew> That we have not won in 150 years, as a matter.

Maayan> Right.

So, so I know we're all focused on tonight and what happens tonight.

But obviously, your focus is also on November.

Drew> It is.

It is.

And so... Maayan>...how, coming from tonight, I mean, where do you see Republicans going in November?

You see more seats flipping?

Drew> I do.

You know, I'm already on record.

So I might as well say it here that we should net two state House seats this year.

We should net at least two state Senate seats.

Could be a third, if the wind blows hard enough.

Those opportunities are there for us.

Again, the presidential race is going to drive a lot of turnout.

And you and I have talked before about our success on the straight ticket here in South Carolina.

So we're one of, I think, eight states that still have straight ticket voting.

The first time in history that we beat Democrats on a straight ticket was in 16', by two, two and a half points.

In 18', it was eight points.

In 20', it was 17.

In 22' it was 27 points statewide.

That helped a lot of those down ballot candidates in those races you were just referring to a minute ago.

That, the governor's race, etc., helped carry a lot of those in with straight ticket support.

It'll be interesting to see how much more that grows or settles out and what areas of the state that we see more success in.

The Pee Dee, particularly, I think we're going to surprise a lot of people there this year.

Scott Huffmon> As Drew pointed out, the South Carolina Republican Party is changing, but it's changing in really interesting ways.

The old way of looking at the South in politics was the Deep South then the Red south.

You know, and again, this goes back to the Civil War.

The new way of looking at the South is the growth south and the stagnant south.

And in the growth south.

You know, people are moving in into urban areas and they're becoming more Democratic, and you think of Georgia.

South Carolina, is a little bit of an exception of that, because a lot of the growth is coming in on the coast.

It's retirees.

They're bringing in some native conservatism.

And, you know, Drew McKissick and the Republicans are able to take advantage of that.

But it's fundamentally changing the party.

And one of the things that I wanted to ask Drew about was, you know, he has so many primaries in his party where you have standard, you know, run of the mill traditional Republicans running against, you know, January sixth, supporting domestic terrorists, supporting, you know, 2020 election deniers.

And that is changing the inner working of the party.

And one of the reasons that's happening is because the districts are so horribly gerrymandered that there is not any real competition.

And to something Maayan was...talking about earlier the women who are getting beaten up over the abortion vote.

Well, you know, when you talk about the general public in South Carolina, the general public is in favor of legal abortion for many circumstances, many think.

But if you are running in a primary where you will have no general election competition, and so in your primary, you have to run the furthest to the right.

If you dare to be moderate, you could lose out.

So that is how we're ending up with a legislature where the elected officials who actually reflect what the general population of South Carolina believes are getting shoved out of the way.

Maayan> What has been your message to Democratic candidates running or just period before, again running in November?

Christale> You know what I've been telling the incumbents, as well as the new candidates candidates, is to just run and run hard.

You know, we've got to plan for November.

You know, we lost a lot of seats in 2022, and we're going to go back and fight to get those seats back.

So, just run and run hard.

Run good races.

And we're going to, the party is going to be there to support you in November.

Maayan> Drew McKissick talked a little bit about how politics has become so nationalized.

And has that helped or hurt Democrats in South Carolina?

Christale> You know, I guess it depends on who you ask.

You know, I think we benefit when things get nationalized, especially when it's when we're trying to get resources into our state for our...for our party, for our candidates.

We benefit from that.

So I guess it depends on who you ask.

But, you know, I don't see it as a big negative in our races.

Maayan> We've seen it, especially in some other states where abortion has been such a top issue.

And obviously you heard Scott Huffmon talking about the polling numbers today.

Is that something that you expect to see a lot of Democrats talking about ahead of November?

Christale> You know, I do.

You know, in 2022 that that's how we flipped the seat with Representative Heather Bauer and Kirkman Finlay.

She ran on abortion.

And I don't think that much has changed.

I think that abortion is a mobilizing issue.

It mobilized a lot of folks to run for office this cycle.

We had around 400 folks file for office because of abortion, because of book bans, because of attacks on LGBT rights.

So it's mobilizing.

Abortion was a mobilizing factor down in Beaufort, where we have, you know, most of all the folks running in the Beaufort County elections are women.

And they were mobilized for abortion and book bans like they were just really they wanted, they were running to help defend democracy.

They don't like the state of things.

We talked about politics being nationalized.

And I think it has benefited us because it got our candidates off the sidelines and into these races.

Gavin> Christale, before we let you go, I wanted to ask you what's going to look like after tonight?

There will be some runoffs possibly, but when it comes down to what the next few months look like for Democrats, when you just heard SC GOP Chairman Drew McKissick say that they're looking to flip some seats, how are y'all going to combat that?

Are you going to get some national resources.

What's the outlook?

Christale> Yes, we're going get natural resources.

They're coming right on in after we finish this segment, but no, we're going to be talking to our voters.

And we don't have any statewide races.

We're going to be very targeted in the races that we're going after.

We're going to go back to get our seats back that we lost in the state house.

We're going to defend our state Senate seat.

So we're going to be very targeted, and very focused on our work.

Gavin> For South Carolina ETV.

I'm Gavin Jackson.

Be well, South Carolina.

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