>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WE'LL HEAR ABOUT AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ON THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY INVOLVING SEXUAL ASSAULTS AT ARIZONA JUNIOR CARE CENTERS.

>>> THE IMPORTANCE OF RECRUITMENT IN PEDIATRIC MEDICAL RESEARCH.

>>> A NEW ART EXHIBIT AIMS TO REDEFINE CERTAIN STEREOTYPICAL NARRATIVES.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ARE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT FORMER U.S. SUPREME COURT COURT JUSTICE SCORNEN SANDRA DAY SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR WILL LIE IN REPOSE ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 18th.

THE PUBLIC IS INVITED AND ON DUES,TUESDAY, AND THEN THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL IN WASHINGTON AND A PRIVATE SERVICE.

IN LIEU OF FLOWERS, GO TO ICIVICS.ORG FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND WAS CONSIDERED AS HER MOST IMPORTANT WORK AND GREATEST LEGACY.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY HEARD ARGUMENTS IN A CASE THAT COULD MAKE IT HEARDER FOR CONGRESS TO TAX WEALTHY AMERICANS.

THE CASE CENTERS ON INVESTORS TAXED ON PROFITS FROM A COMPANY BASED IN INDIA.

THE INVESTORS ARGUE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TAXED BECAUSE THEY REINVESTED THOSE PROFITS AND, THUS, NEVER RECEIVED ANY ACTUAL INCOME.

THAT GOES AGAINST A PROVISION IN THE FEDERAL TAX LAWS AND SUPREME COURT'S DECISION ON THIS CASE AND THE DELINEATION BETWEEN PROFIT AND INCOME COULD HAVE SWEEPING RAMNY CASES RAMIFICATIONS.

>>> THEY APPROVED 400 MILITARY PROMOTIONS AFTER TOMMY TUBBERVILLE BLOCKED HIS BLOCKADE OF DOMINATIONS.

IT WAS TAKING A TOLL ON SERVICE MEMBERS AND FAMILIES AND MILITARY READINESS.

HE USED THIS AS A WAY TO PROTEST PENTAGON POLICIES WITH TIME OFF FOR SERVICE MEMBERS SEEKING ABORTIONS OR FERTILITY CARE.

AFTER HEARING OF TUBBERVILLE LIFTING THE HOLD, A STATEMENT, QUOTE, ABOUT DAMN TIME.

>>> LIZ CH ENEY SAYS SHE IS WEIGHING A THIRD-PARTY RUN PUTTING DEMOCRACY AT HOME AND ABROAD AND CHENEY'S APPEAL COULD HELP DONALD TRUMP IN DRAWING VOTES AWAY FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN.

WITH THAT IN MIND, CHENEY SAYS SHE WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING TO RETURN TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

>>> A NEW POLL SHOWS YOUNGER AMERICANS ARE LESS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT VOTING THAN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO.

THE HARVARD I-O-P YOUTH POLL SHOWS 49% SAID THEY PLAN TO VOTE NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S DOWN FROM 57% AT THIS TIME IN 2020.

IT SHOWS YOUNGER VOTERS PREFER PRESIDENT BIDEN.

>>> ONE MORE MINE, THE NUMBER OF JOB OPENINGS DROPPED.

JOB OPENINGS FELL TO THE LOWEST LEVELS IN MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

IT'S A SIGN THAT THE FED'S ATTEMPTS TO BRING DOWN INFLATION BY RAISING INTEREST RATES ARE WORKING TO COOL OFF THE BROADER ECONOMY AND SO FAR, THE SLOWING LABOR MARKET HAS NOT CONTRIBUTED TO WIDE-SPREAD LAYOFFS.

>> AN INVESTIGATION BY THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC LOOKED AT THREE YEARS OF POLICE REPORTS INVOLVING SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES IN ARIZONA AND IT MADE CLEAR THERE ARE SERIOUS FLAWS AND OVERSIGHT AMONG STATE AGENCIES SUPPOSED TO PROTECT VULNERABLE ADULTS IN CARE FACILITIES.

SAHANA JAYRAMAN JOINS US NOW.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS AND THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS AND THIS WAS A TOUGH READ TO GET THROUGH.

THREE YEARS OF POLICE RECORDS AND WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING FOR AND WHAT DID YOU FIND?

>> SO THE PROCESS BEGAN IN THE SUMMER OF 2002, WHEN MY COLLEAGUE SENT OUT REQUESTS TO 40 DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA ASKING FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND USING KEY WORDS LIKE "SEXUAL OFFENSES" SEXUAL ASSAULT "AND OTHER SORTS OF KEY WORDS DETERMINING VIOLENCE TO SELECT REPORTS FROM NURSING HOMES AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ADDRESSES ACROSS ARIZONA.

>> Ted: WHAT SPARKED THE INVESTIGATION?

>> SO THE EMME IMPETUS WAS KATE LYNN KATELYN FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS WOMAN WITH HANGERS WHICH WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIOUS.

THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AND ASSAULT STORY CAME ABOUT AFTER WE COLLECTED ALL OF THE REPORTS AND WE WERE READING THEM AND PUTTING THEM INTO THIS DATABASE.

YOU KNOW, WE SORT NOTICED THIS PATTERN AND SOME CASES WERE EGREGIOUS AND WANTED ATTENTION.

>> Ted: WERE THEY GETTING THE ATTENTION FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THESE CASES SHOULD BE GETTING?

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK THAT -- I MEAN, LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS INVESTIGATING THE INCIDENTS, WHICH IS HOW WE CAUGHT WIND OF THEM, RIGHT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT POLICE REPORTS.

OFTEN TIMES, SEXUAL OWE PHYSICALOR PHYSICALAND THE CASE IS CLOSED BECAUSE RESIDENTS WITH DEMENTIA AREN'T IN A MENTALLY CULPABLE STATE TO BE PROSECUTED.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WEREN'T TAKING CHARGES SERIOUSLY OR AT TIMES, THEY WERE HINDERING INVESTIGATION TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> I THINK FACILITIES HAVE HINDERED POLICE INVESTIGATION INTO SOME OF THE INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED BY REFUSING TO GIVE POLICE INFORMATION WHEN THEY ASK FOR IT OR SLOWING THE PROCESS OF THE FLOW OF INFORMATION TO POLICE.

AND TO STATE INVESTIGATORS.

>> Ted: MUCH OF WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT OVERSIGHTS, YOU DESCRIBE THIS AS FRACTURED AND WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE?

>> IN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, THE GAPS ARE GLARING.

STATE AGENCIES AND BOARDS THAT OVERSEE SLIVERS OF THIS AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COLLABORATE TO CREATE A HOLISTIC SYSTEM, BUT IT'S SORT OF UNCLEAR, EXACTLY, HOW WELL THAT COLLABORATION IS HAPPENING OR HOW MUCH AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL EACH OF THE AGENCIES IS WIELDING THEIR INDIVIDUAL AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT.

>> Ted: HOW MUCH AUTHORITY DO THEY HAVE AND HOW MUCH CAN THEY HOLD SOME OF THESE PLACES AND MANAGERS ACCOUNTABLE?

>> SO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES IS THE ENTITY THAT OVERSEES CITATIONS, LICENSING INSPECTIONS OF THESE PLACES AND THEY'RE ABLE TO CITE FACILITIES FOR INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR WITHIN THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FINES THAT THEY CAN LEVEL, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO LEVEL $500 PER CITATION, PER DAY, IS LIKE THE MAX AMOUNT TO LEVEL.

AND A LOT OF THE FACILITIES, YOUR RENT IS IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS PER MONTH.

SO THE FRACTION OF THE AMOUNT THEY'RE ABLE TO FIND VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE MAKING IS SMALL.

>> Ted: ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, WHERE ARE THEY?

>> THE AGENCY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING ABUSE, NEGLECT AND EXPLOITATION FOR VULNERABLE ADULTS INCLUDING THOSE IN A FACILITY IN ARIZONA.

THERE'S A REPORT THAT CAME OUT AT THE END OF THE SEPTEMBER THAT IS PUBLISHED ON THE AUDITOR GENERAL'S WEBSITE SHOWING THEY SUBSTANTIATED LESS THAN 1% OF THE ALLEGATIONS THEY'VE RECEIVED.

WE FOUND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THEIR SEXUAL ABUSE STATISTICS, THE SAME WAS TRUE.

WE ASKED FOR STATISTICS STRAIGHT FROM THE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPEOPLE AND GOT THREE DIFFERENT FIGURES OVER THREE DAYS.

GREAT QUESTION, WHERE ARE THEY?

>> Ted: AGAIN, WHO'S MINDING ALL OF THIS AND WHERE IS THE NORTHERLY?

IS THERE AN UMBRELLA OR SOMETHING?

IT SOUNDS LIKE FRACTURED, YEAH.

>> YEAH, SO GOVERNOR HOBBS WOULD BE THE PERSON WHO OVERSEA OVERSEES THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DHS AND APS AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD THAT DISCIPLINES FACILITY MANAGERS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE BUCK STOPS.

>> Ted: WE SHOULD MENTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATIENTS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND SOME INVOLVE EMPLOYEES AT THESE PLACES.

>> ONE WE PROFILED HAD A FIRST SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY A MAN WHO WAS CURRENTLY IN COURT AT THE TIME BECAUSE OF ANOTHER SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT HE HAD PERPETRATED.

>> Ted: SO IN TERMS OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE WORKING THERE, IN TERMS OF REQUIREMENTS FOR MANAGING SUCH A FACILITY, FOR KEEPING SUCH A FACILITY, WHAT ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WHO CHECKS ON THOSE?

>> SO, DHS WOULD BE THE ENTITY THAT SETS THE RULES FOR, YOU KNOW, WHO IS EMPLOYED AND HOW MUCH TRAINING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

DHS DOESN'T HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO RESPOND IF THERE IS, LIKE, A RESIDENT ON STAFF INCIDENT, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NURSE.

AND SO, I MEAN, LIKE POLICE IS THE ANSWER THAT I'VE GOTTEN.

YOU JUST CALL THE POLICE AND THEY RESPOND TO THOSE INCIDENTS.

BUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING EMPLOYED AT AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A TRAINING COURSE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY DHS OR BY THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO BE 18 OR OLDER AND THAT'S ABOUT IT TO BE A CERTIFIED CAREGIVER.

>> Ted: STILL THE STAFF TO RESIDENT RATIO, IT'S NOT GOOD.

>> IT'S NONEXISTENT IN ARIZONA.

THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR A STAFF-TO-RESIDENT RATIO.

IT'S HOWEVER MANY STAFF YOU NEED TO MAKE THINGS WORK.

OTHER STATES DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE NOT ONE OF THEM AND WE DON'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL STAFF TO BE AT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION.

IN READING THE SERIES AND GOING OVER ALL OF THIS, THIS IS A TOUGH READ AND NOT FUN STUFF AND THIS IS DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH AND YOU WORK THROUGH THE NUMBERS.

YOU WORK THROUGH THE STORIES.

DID IT AFFECT YOU?

>> MOST CERTAINLY.

I CARRY THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WROTE ABOUT IN MY HEART AND IN MY MIND.

I THINK ABOUT THEM EVERYDAY.

IT'S BEEN AN EMOTIONALLY TAXING EXPERIENCE.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTICUM OF PRIDE OF WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND TO GIVE THAT EXPERIENCE BECAUSE IT'S AN EXPERIENCE SO OFTEN UNDERREPORTED.

THOSE STORIES LIVE WITH ME.

>> Ted: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND SHARING THAT WORK WITH US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, THE IMPORTANCE OF RECRUITMENT IN PEDIATRIC MEDICAL RESEARCH.

>> I'M RICK STEVES.

JOIN ME FOR THE ARCHITECT OF RENAISSANCE BEYOND FLORENCE.

WE START WITH THE EXPLORERS OF SPAIN AND PORTUGAL TO THE MYSTIC OF EL GRECO.

WE MARVEL AT THE GENIUS WHO WAS THE ARTIST AND MATTERS IN BELGIUM AND HOLLAND.

>> THURSDAY NIGHT AT 7:30 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> COME EXPERIENCE WHAT THE REGION OF FRANCE CHRISTMAS.

YOU'LL SEE THE CHARMINGLY DECORATED STORYBOOK TOWNS, THE COLORFUL CHARACTERS AND LEARN ABOUT THE REGION.

SHARING THE WARMTH AND MAGICAL EXPERIENCES.

>> THURSDAY NIGHT AT 9:30 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: PEDIATRIC MEDICAL RESEARCH INVOLVES A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING IN A VARIETY OF WAYS TO FIND LATEST ADVANCEMENTS IN PEDIATRIC CARE.

PHOENIX CHILDREN AND MEDICINE PHOENIX ARE WORKING TO RETAIN RESEARCHERS IN THIS IMPORTANT FIELD AND JOININGS NOW IS DR. STEWART GOLDMAN FROM PHOENIX CHILDREN'S.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE A SHORTAGE OF PEDIATRIC DOCTORS, PEDIATRIC RESEARCHERS?

>> THERE'S A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF PHYSICIANS GOING INTO PEDIATRICS.

FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS.

AND THOSE WHO GO ONTO A WORLD OF RESEARCH IS EVEN A SMALLER PERCENTAGE.

AND THERE'S MANY DIFFICULTIES.

THAT'S THE NEED FOR CONTINUOUS FUNDING, FOR THE TIME AND THE MENTORING AND ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON WITH THE PHOENIX CHILDREN'S RESEARCH INSTITUTE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF COLLEGE OF MEDICINE.

>> Ted: IT'S HARDER TO FIND THESE FOLKS AND YET, I MEAN, ADVANCEMENTS ARE HAPPENING AND YOU NEED PEOPLE, DON'T YOU?

>> WE NEED THEM DESPERATELY AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO RECRUIT SENIOR, WELL-ESTABLISHED INVESTIGATORS AND WHY TO DO THAT?

ULTIMATELY, ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO REALLY GROW SCIENTISTS FROM OUR OWN COMMUNITY, FROM OUR MEDICAL SCHOOLS HERE IN ARIZONA, BUT YOU NEED THAT MENTORING AND THOSE ESTABLISHED INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRAIN AND RETAIN PHYSICIANS, SCIENTISTS HERE IN THE VALLEY.

>> Ted: INDEED.

I KNOW A COUPLE OF RESEARCHERS.

DR. KAYLIN.

>> A PHENOMENAL INVESTIGATOR WE'VE RECRUITED WHO DOES TOP-NOTCH CANCER RESEARCH AND SHE'S THE VICE CHAIR FOR TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH FOR OUR CANCER CENTER HERE AT PHOENIX CHILDREN'S.

SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON GETTING TARGETED NANO PARTICLES TO DELIVER MEDICATIONS TO THE TUMOR CELLS BUT NOT THE REST OF THE BODY, SEEKING THOSE TARGETS.

THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THAT IT TAKES AWAY THE SIDE EFFECTS, THE TOXICITIES AND FOCUSES ON TREATING CANCER.

>> Ted: I WAS READING THAT SHE SEEMS TO FOCUS ON CANCERS THAT MOVE TO THE LUNGS, A LOT OF CHRONIC LUNG DISEASES AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS?

>> CERTAINLY.

SHE'S WORKED EXTENSIVELY IN NEW FORMS OF RADIATION AND USING THESE NANO PARTICLES AND PREVENT METASTASIS OR THE TUMOR LEAVING THE PRIMARY SITE AND GOING TO THE LUNGS IN THESE CHILDREN.

>> Ted: ANOTHER RESEARCHER IS DR. MEGAN WALLACE, PEDIATRICS?

>> YES.

WE WANT TO COVER ALL ASPECTS OF CHILDHOOD DISEASES AND DR. WALLACE IS AN AMAZING RECRUIT.

SHE STUDIES A VERY RARE SYNDROME CALLED OSTEOG ENESIS IMPERFECTA.

THEY HAVE PROBLEMS IN THEIR SKIN AND HARD AND SYSTEMICALLY AND SHE'S ONE OF THE FEW IN THE COUNTRY.

BECAUSE OF HER EXPERTISE, WE WILL NOW HAVE A MEDICATION THERAPY AS A CLINICAL TRIAL THAT WILL BE OFFERED HERE IN THE VALLEY THAT OTHERWISE WAS NOT AVAILABLE PREVIOUSLY.

>> Ted: GETTING TOP-NOTCH RESEARCHERS IS GOOD FOR PHOENIX CHILDREN'S AND GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT ALSO BRINGS IN GRANT MONEY, FEDERAL MONEY.

IT BECOMES A MAGNET, DOES IT NOT?

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST REASONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THE RESEARCH INSTITUTE, TO COLLABORATE OUR LONG-STANDING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AN EXTREMELY STRONG CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL AND OUR MEDICAL SCHOOL AT ATAT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

TOGETHER, NOT ONLY WILL WE BRING IN TOP-NOTCH RESEARCHERS WHO BRING IN FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT THEY THEMSELVES WILL ALSO ATTRACT OTHER SCIENTISTS AND WILL BE MENTORS TO THE STUDENT WHO'S ARE OUR FUTURE PHYSICIANS AND FUTURE HEALTHCARE.

>> Ted: AN ACCELERATOR OF SORTS, IF YOU WILL.

>> THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO BECAUSE WE TREAT CHILDREN BETTER EVERY DAY BY UNDERSTANDING THE DISEASES, TAKING WHAT WE LEARN IN THE LAB AND BRINGING IT BACK TO A CHILD AND THEIR CARE.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION, IN PEDIATRIC'S, RESEARCH, MEDICINE, WHAT IS THE MOST EXCITING TREND RIGHT NOW?

>> I THINK THAT THE MOST EXCITING TREND IS THAT WE'VE LEARNED WHAT CAUSES MANY DISEASES AND HOW TO THEN PREVENT THEM.

HOW TO MAKE NOT ONLY OUR CHILDREN HEALTHIER AND COMMUNITIES HEALTHIER.

I'VE DENY DOING THIS 35 YEARS AND NEVER MORE EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE.

>> DR. STEWART GOLDMAN, COULD TO HAVE YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONTINUED GOOD WORK.

>> THANK YOU.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> TONIGHT, U.S. OFFICIALS WARN CONGRESS THAT FUNDING FOR UKRAINE IS QUICKLY RUNNING OUT AND THAT'S COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ >> Ted: A NEW EXHIBIT AT MODIFIED ARTS IN PHOENIX AS DESCRIBED AS AN INTIMATE EXPLORATION BETWEEN ANTOINETTE CAULEY AND HER ASPECT ON HER IMPACT ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

IT'S CALLED, "I DO IT FOR THE HOOD."

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: "I DO IT FOR THE HOOD, PART TWO" WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

>> I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF AMERICAN SLAVERY AND COLONIALISM ON BLACK, BROWN AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.

I WANT TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T THINKING ABOUT IT.

SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND DECOLONIZE YOUR MIND.

IT'S SHINING A LIGHT ON THE BEAUTY AND RESILIENCE IN THESE COMMUNITIES AND REFLECTING THAT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP WHO ARE FROM THESE HOODS.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU DO THAT FLEW THROUGH ART?

>> I SHINE A LIGHT ON THEIR STORIES AND BRING IN THEIR FAMILIES AND HERITAGE AND I SPEAK TO THE BEAUTY OF THE CITY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE OFTENTIMES MAYBE MIGHT NOT HAVE HOPE OR THINK THEY CAN'T GET OUT AND I THINK I REPRESENT THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THEM THROUGH THE WORK.

>> Ted: WHAT KIND OF RESPONSES HAVE YOU HAD SO FAR?

>> PEOPLE LOVE IT!

I THINK NOT JUST WITHIN THE CITY BUT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

>> Ted: WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT INSPIRED THIS EXHIBIT?

WHAT GOT IT STARTED?

THE INSPIRATION FOR THIS EXHIBITION CAME, I WAS IN GERMANY AND MOVED TO GERMANY A FEW YEARS AGO TO FURTHER MY CAREER AND I WAS FEELING A BIT DISCOURAGED BECAUSE I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING MY WORK INTO MUSEUMS.

I SAT AND REFLECTED AND THOUGHT, WHO AM I DOING THIS FOR, MY CAREER?

WHO AM I LOOKING TO INSPIRE?

>> MARGINALIZED EXPECTS.

I DO IT FOR THE HOOD FOR A REMINDER FOR MYSELF AND THE COMMUNITY I'M LOOKING TO IMPACT.

>> Ted: LAST TIME WE SPOKE WITH YOU, WE WERE IN ZOOM IN GERMANY AND LOOKED QUIET AND DARK AND YOU CAME BACK.

FIRST OF ALL, WHY DID YOU GO AND WHY DID YOU COME BACK?

>> I LEFT PHOENIX UNFORTUNATELILY TO EXPAND MY CAREER AND TO SHOW PEOPLE FROM MY COMMUNITY WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR US THROUGH THE ARTS OR ANY AVENUES TO TAKE, REALLY.

I BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO ME.

I FEEL GROUNDED WHEN I'M IN PHOENIX AND REGARDLESS OF HOW LARGE MY CAREER BLOWS UP, I'LL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK HOME.

>> Ted: WHEN YOU'RE IN GERMANY -- FIRST OF ALL, THE 20 SOME ODD PIECES -- >> IT'S ABOUT 25.

>> Ted: -- WERE ANY CREATED?

GERMAN?

>> ABOUT HALF.

>> Ted: CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CREATING, WHAT YOU HAVE CREATED, YOUR CREATIVE MINDSET IN GERMANY AND WHAT IT'S LIKE BACK HOME?

>> DEFINITELY.

MY ENTIRE PROCESS CHANGED IN GERMANY.

NOT AS FAR AS THE TECHNICAL SKILLS I'M USING, BUT AS FAR AS THEORIES AN CONCEPTS BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED TO GERMANY, I SAW A DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT OF HOW THEY FUNCTION AND I COULD COMPARE THAT TO MY HOME COUNTRY AND SEE IN MORE DEPTH WHAT IS WRONG AND WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

SO THAT STARTED SHOWING UP IN MY WORK.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN BRITAIN AND ALL OVER EUROPE AND THEIR EXPERIENCES BEING BLACK IN ANOTHER COUNTRY AND HOW THAT IMPACTED THEM AND THEN TELL THOSE STORIES IN THE WORK.

>> Ted: THE PIECES OF ART CREATED IN GERMANY, ARE THEY STILL SPECIAL?

>> DEFINITELY.

>> Ted: OR HAVE YOU MOVED ON NOW THAT YOU'RE BACK HOME AND HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM GERMANY?

>> WELL, THE PIECES -- ANY PIECE IS SPECIAL FOR SURE, BUT THE ONES THAT I'VE MADE IN EUROPE, THEY'LL ALWAYS BE A LITTLE EXTRA SPECIAL TO ME BECAUSE I DID BRANCH OUT AND FLY OUT AND DO THIS IMPOSSIBLE THING AND THERE ARE MEMORIES OF THAT.

>> Ted: SOMETIMES AN ARTIST HAS TO GET AWAY TO SEE WHERE THEY'VE BEEN AND ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO WHERE YOU HAVE RETURN, YOU CAN SEE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AGAIN TO LOOK BACK AT PHOENIX?

>> THE WORD IS MINE FOR THE TAKING.

[ Laughter ] >> SO, YES, I PLAN ON GOING OTHER PLACES, FOR SURE.

>> Ted: YOUR IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR IMPACT, WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT RELATIONSHIP TO BE AND WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP?

>> I THINK IT'S BRINGING HOPE TO THE HOPELESS WHEN I THINK ABOUT MY COMMUNITY AND WHERE I COME FROM.

I HAD NO ACCESS TO ART OR ANY OF THE THINGS I TO TODAY AND SO I UNDERSTAND I'M NOW CREATING A BLUEPRINT FOR THEM TO DO THE SAME.

I HOPE THAT BEHIND ME RISES UP A NEW GENERATION OF YOUNG BLACK ARTISTS FROM PHOENIX WHO NOW KNOW THE MOVES THEY NEED TO TAKE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> Ted: WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THEM YOU WISH SOMEONE HAD TOLD YOU?

>> START YOUNG AND JUST GO FOR IT.

WHETHER YOU'RE AFRAID, UNSURE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO FEEL THOSE THINGS, SO DO IT AFRAID.

>> Ted: EVERY ARTIST HAS THAT PERSON ON THE SHOW.

STOP THIS, THIS IS NO GOOD.

EVERY ARTIST HAS THAT AND HAVE TO GET PAST THAT.

>> DEFINITELY.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: WILL YOU STAY IN FINE ARTS OR WHAT'S UP WITH YOU?

>> THIS IS MY LIFE-LONG CAREER.

I'VE BEEN A FULL-TIME ARTIST GOING ON EIGHT YEARS NOW AND LIVING IN GERMANY AND BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH FOR THREE YEARS.

I PLAN TO TAKE THE CITY WITH ME.

CITY SHOWS UP IN END OF PAINTING I DO.

I LOVE SHARING MY HOME WITH THE WORLD AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL BE, THE WORLD.

TED YOU'LL >> Ted: HOW LONG IN MODIFIED ARTS?

>> MY EXHIBITION IS FROM DECEMBER 15th WITH LOW RIDERS AND I'LL BE THERE IN-PERSON TO MEET PEOPLE.

IT RUNS THROUGH FEBRUARY 10th.

SO POP IN ANYTIME TO SEE THE WORK.

>> Ted: WILL THERE BE "I DO IT FOR THE HOOD, PART 3"?

[ Laughter ] >> POTENTIALLY.

>> Ted: AND THAT IT IS FOR NOW.

I'M.

THANK YOUTED SIMONS.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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