AND THANKS FOR JOINING US ON CHICAGO TONIGHT.

I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF CHICAGO TONIGHT.

THIS EVENING.

WE'RE BRINGING YOU SOME OF OUR FAVORITE STORIES AND MOMENTS FROM THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE MEET THE FOUNDER OF A RUN CLUB WHOSE MESSAGES TO RUN YOUR WAY, EVEN IF IT'S SLOW A YES.

WHEN YOU'RE CRUISING ALONG ONE OF CHICAGO LANDS HIGHWAYS, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

WHAT'S W T TW NEWS EXPLAINS HER.

OUR HIGHWAY SYSTEM GETS ITS EXIT NUMBERS FINISHED ONE ON ONE WITH PETER SEGAL ON 26 YEARS OF HOSTING.

WAIT, WAIT.

DON'T TELL ME.

IT WAS LIKE A DREAM TO THE OWNERS THIS PLACE.

AND WE TAKE YOU INSIDE A HISTORIC LITTLE VILLAGE THEATER.

AFTER THE BREAK.

WHY YOU SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE RUNNING AT ANY SPEED IN A CONVERSATION RECORDED EARLIER.

CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE ALEXANDER AND JOHN NICHOLS FAMILY.

THE GYM AND K MAYBE FAMILY.

THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.

AND THE SUPPORT THESE DONORS.

CHANCES ARE YOU'VE ALREADY SPOTTED SEVERAL OF THESE TODAY.

RUNNERS, THE POPULAR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY APP.

STRAVA SAYS RUNNING WAS ITS MOST UPLOADED SPORT OF 2023.

BUT WITH THE GROWING NUMBER OF RECREATIONAL RUNNERS, QUESTIONS ABOUT INCLUSIVITY HAVE ALSO RISEN OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS HE DIDN'T ALWAYS FEEL WELCOMED IN THE SPORT.

NOW HE'S GOT A BOOK TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN GET IN ON THE RUN.

IT'S CALLED EFRON CLUB.

THE ULTIMATE GUIDE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RUN.

AND JOINING US NOW IS AUTHOR AND A TIME MARATHONER, MARTINEZ EVANS, WHO ALSO STARTED THE ONLINE COMMUNITY.

THE EFRON CLUB.

AND I'M SURE F STANDS FOR ALWAYS OR SLOW LOW THAT LIST THAT MARTINEZ THANKS FOR JOINING US.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU, REVEREND.

SO YOU OFTEN TOLD THE STORY OF HOW YOU GOT STARTED WITH RUNNING.

OUR DOCTOR TOLD YOU THAT YOU NEEDED TO LOSE WEIGHT OR YOU WOULD DIE YOU RESPONDED WITH I'M GOING TO RUN A MARATHON.

HE LAUGHED.

WHO?

WHY RUNNING?

WHAT?

HOW TO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED RUNNING BEFORE THAT DAY?

ABSOLUTELY SO I WAS BEING FACETIOUS WHEN I'M TOLD IS DOCTOR, I WAS GOING TO RUN A MARATHON BECAUSE HE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO START WALKING ON THE TRACK AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.

I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SO WHY I WAS OFF LIKE I WANT TO RUN A MARATHON.

HE LEFT THAT WE AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GOT APPROVAL WORLD.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DID YOU PULL MARATHON OUT OF THE AIR LIKE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE STARTED SWIMMING OR LIKING BUT IT WAS MARATHON.

YEAH, IT CAME YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY IS GOING AFFECT YOU TRY THINK ABOUT ANYTHING NOT PUT HANDS ON THEM.

SO THOUGHT TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO RUN A MARATHON.

RUN 8 OF THEM SINCE HE SAID THOSE IT WAS DURING ONE OF THOSE RACES, THOUGH SOMEONE YELLED SOMETHING UNKIND.

BUT YOU WERE INSPIRED BY IT BY THOSE WORDS, ONE OF AND THEN WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR MIND?

SO I WAS ON A NEW YORK CITY MARATHON AND OTHERS GUYS TOLD ME, HEY, BUDDY, YOU'RE I WON'T SAY THE BIKES A YEAR SLOWLY OFF.

HE TOLD ME ALL.

SO IMAGINE BEING 15 MILES INTO YOUR MARATHON.

YOU'RE ALREADY SOMEWHAT DELUSIONAL.

AND INTO ARGUMENT WITH THIS GUY AND WANT FINISH THE RACE.

I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'M GOING IN SOME SOMETHING TO PROVE WRONG AS WELL AND TRY TO SLOW WAS THIS A FELLOW RUNNER WHO SENT THIS BRAND IS?

I DON'T IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I DON'T KNOW.

TOO, WAS ON THE SIDE.

COURSE, WHEN A BEER IN HAND.

SO NOT LIKELY A RUNNER WITH BEER, NOT NOT NOT RUNNING IN THE RACE WITH YOU, THOUGH, IS ACTUALLY NOT RUN THE RACE WITH OKAY.

SINCE STARTING THIS LAWYER FROM CLUB.

AND OF COURSE, BRING YOUR BOOK WITH YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU, BROOKE, TO SHOW US TODAY ON YOUR STORIES.

OF COURSE, BEEN WIDELY SHARED.

YOU HAVE EVEN THE COVER STORY FOR RUNNERS.

WORLD MAGAZINE, A NUDE PHOTO SHOOT WITH MEN'S HEALTH MAGAZINE.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU TO HAVE YOUR STORY AND YOUR IMAGE, YOU KNOW, SHARE ON THESE PLATFORMS IN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPORT.

I THINK FOR ME THERE DEFINITELY A BIG MOVE BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED RUNNING 10 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THAT THE OUT THAT LOOKED LIKE ME SOME NOW THAT I'M OUT HERE AND BE ABLE TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN BE ACTIVE IN THE BODY THAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHANGING YOUR BODY IS REALLY IT'S JUST SO MUCH FOR ME TO JUST BE THAT BEACON OF HOPE FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.

WHAT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU GET OUT OUT OF RUNNING BESIDES, YOU KNOW, GIVING TO THE MEMBERS OF YOUR CLUB AND GIVING TO OTHERS.

WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF IT?

SO TIMES MY LIFE RUNNING GAVE ME LIFE RUNNING.

GAVE ME SOMETHING WHERE I DIDN'T NECESSARILY.

THINK I WAS GOING TO BE HERE ON THIS ARE RUNNING HAS GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD.

ONE HAS GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST, WHICH ALSO RUNNING HAS GIVEN ME EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S ALSO RUNNING HAS ALSO BEEN SORT OF A MOSTLY WHITE DOMINATED SPORT, RIGHT, DESPITE, YOU KNOW, SOME VERY FAMOUS BLACK PEOPLE WHO WE CAN ALL NAME WHO ARE RUNNERS LIKE LIKE HARRY RICHARDSON.

ALLYSON FELIX HUSSEIN BOLT.

THEY'RE YOU KNOW, OLYMPIANS, BUT ALSO THERE, FASTER RUNNER SHORTER DISTANCES IN TRACK AND FIELD.

WHY DO YOU THINK MORE BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T INTO RUNNING AN ESPECIALLY LONG DISTANCE RUNNING?

THINK THAT'S A GREAT NOTION.

IS THAT IT REALLY COMES BACK TO DIVERSITY.

I KNOW GROWING UP AS A LITTLE, MORNING DETROIT, NOBODY THAT I EVER RAN LONG DISTANCE.

EVERYTHING WAS TRACKED 100 METERS HURDLES.

THINGS OF THAT SORT.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT LONG DISTANCE RUNNING WAS LIGHTNING, GOT INTO THING.

SO I THINK IS ONE IS AWARENESS THING BUT ALSO PING IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT, RIGHT?

GOES DEEPER.

2, HOW?

IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE JUST DON'T.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT.

THAT ENCOURAGED WENT TO CUBA.

YEAH, IT'S A MATTER ENCOURAGE DO YOU THINK YOU HAD AN IMPACT ON THAT GETTING MORE BLACK PEOPLE INTO THE SPORT?

I HOPE THE SAME SOT HAVE.

YEAH, YEAH, LIKE IT.

ALL OF YOUR TRAVELS LIKE HEAVEN.

WHAT IF YOU NOTICE AND PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE IN THAT YOU GET TO MEET?

OH, YEAH.

I THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ME TRAVELING, I'VE BEEN ON A 50 DAY BUT ARE HAVE VARIOUS GROUPS.

AND THERE IS ONE WHO HAVE POPPED UP IN THEIR MAJORITY PEOPLE OF COLOR.

SO I THINK ABOUT HERE CHICAGO SET UP THE PEACE RUNNERS ALSO THINK ABOUT THAT ARE TOO GOOD TO SEE AND WE THINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT WE WANT EVERYONE 3.

SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY VARIOUS HUGS.

BLACK MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE ALSO STARTING ARRIVE.

AND I THINK THESE NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE A CRUISER TO OUR ECONOMY IS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET MORE OF A LITTLE BLACK FOLK OUT THERE.

SOME PEOPLE GET INTO RUNNING AS A MATTER OF WEIGHT LOSS OR WEIGHT MANAGEMENT.

AND YOU SAID IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT.

WE LOSS FOR YOU YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WHEN YOU'RE OUT RUNNING?

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS WHAT IS IT?

WHAT DOES IT DO FOR YOU?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR YOU?

WHAT ARE WHY A MARATHON?

I ALWAYS JOKE THAT A MARATHON.

YOU RUN.

26.2 MILES TO FINISH ABOUT 3 BLOCKS FROM WHERE YOU STARTED.

DIDN'T GET VERY TO LONG I COULDN'T ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK FIRST THINGS FIRST, THE SATISFACTION OF PUTTING PEOPLE.

IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT SHOWING UP TO THE FINISH LINE AND SOME MIGHT LOOK AT ME.

LOOK AT MY SIZE.

IT'S LIKE, OH, THIS.

YOUR FIRST TIME LIKE, NOPE.

THIS IS A NUMBER.

9 NUMBER 10.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT.

THE PRICE THE PROCESS OF TRAINING FOR A MARATHON, RIGHT?

YOU CAN'T BE YES, AMERICA.

YOU KNOW, THE GUY WHO STARTED RAN THE FIRST MARATHON DIED, RIGHT?

SO THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO GO WITH THAT.

AND I THINK THAT MINDSET THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE REPUTATION, THE REPETITION AND TRAINING OF MARATHON TRAINING MAKES ME A BETTER PERSON.

YOUR BOOK IS IT'S PART MEMOIR, PART GUIDE FOR RUNNERS.

WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WISH THAT YOU KNEW WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED OUT?

SO FROM A STORE?

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WISH I WANT TO KNOW WHEN I FIRST STARTED OFF, THIS IS PRODUCT CALLED BODY THING RIGHT DOWN.

YES.

PUT IT DOWN BY YOU PUT IT ALL.

YOU MOVING PARTS ALL YOUR BITS BYTES THAT MOVING ROAD TOGETHER.

IT WILL PREVENT WHAT I CALL THAT A PASTOR.

SO YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU WANT AND YOU THINK TOM GOOD AND THEN YOU GO TAKE A HOT SHOWER.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN CUT A RAZOR SO I SOMEBODY WOULD TELL ME ABOUT BODY GOT A LONG TIME AGO.

DO YOU FIND YOURSELF DISPELLING ANY NETS, FOR EXAMPLE?

LOOK, YOU KNOW, THE NAME OF THE CLUB, SLOW A F TRAIN.

IT KIND OF LIKE MEAN EVEN FROM ME AND INSPIRATION IS IT'S OK TO BE SLOW, IT IS OKAY TO BE AT THE BACK OF THE YEAH.

SO MAYBE SOME DAY.

MOST RACES ARE PERMITTED AS A PARADE.

LET THAT SINK IN.

SO THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A RACE PERMIT.

THERE'S ONLY UPPER A PARADE PERMIT.

SO ONCE YOU GET THE ELITE ATHLETES OUT THE WAY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY COMPETING FOR MONEY, ALL OF US ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PARADE.

SO THERE'S THE LAST TIME I CHECKED.

I REMEMBER SEEING SANTA CLAUS FLOW TRY TO BEAT OUT OF ME.

HE MUST FLOW IN THE BRAIN LIKE EVERYBODY'S DOING THEIR THING AND ENJOY THE JOURNEY ALONG TO THE FINISH LINE AND THAT'S THE RIGHT RUNNING RACES.

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE AN EXCUSE TO GET DRESSED AS WHAT ON SOMETHING FUN WHEN YOU GO FOR THAT LAST QUESTION IT YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEFORE WE LET YOU GO.

WHAT DO YOU HOPE PEOPLE TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR BOOK AND FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE?

ONE OF THINGS I HOPE THAT PEOPLE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS BOOK IS THAT THEY CAN DO IT.

THEY CAN THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WRITE MY STORIES ABOUT RUNNING.

BUT THIS BOOK AND MY STORY IS REALLY ABOUT TOO LONG LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN YOUR BODY.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET UP AND START.

OKAY.

MARTINA 7, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU, THAT YOU BET.

8 MINUTES GO BY.

AGAIN, THE BOOK IS CALLED FRANK LOVE THE ULTIMATE GUIDE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RUN.

AND WE'RE BACK WITH MORE RIGHT AFTER THIS.

WELL, OUR EXPRESSWAYS AREN'T ALWAYS THAT EXPRESS.

THEY DO CONTAIN SOME INFORMATION YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF WHEN YOU'RE ON THE ROAD.

HERE'S NICK LUMBER TO EXPLAIN HOW OUR INTERSTATE EXITS ARE NUMBERED.

IN TONIGHT'S W T TW NEWS EXPLAINS.

WHEN YOU'RE CRUISING ALONG ONE OF CHICAGO LANDS HIGHWAYS.

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

WHAT SONG TO PLAY NEXT WHERE THE NEAREST BURGER PLACES WHEN ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FINISHED.

IF EVER FIND YOURSELF WONDERING HOW WILL THE EXITS GOT THEIR NUMBERS?

IT'S RELATIVELY SIMPLE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO IT.

STATES ILLINOIS THAT RUN NORTH-SOUTH LIKE 5.55 THE NUMBERING SYSTEM STARTS AT THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT.

THE HIGHWAY ENTERS ILLINOIS FOR INTERSTATES RUNNING EAST WEST LIKE I-80, THE NUMBER START AT THE WESTERNMOST POINT.

A LOT OF TIMES THE VERY FIRST TURN OFF IS EXIT ONE.

BUT THE NEXT ONE ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE EXIT.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE NUMBERS CORRESPOND TO HOW MANY EXITS THERE BUT TO HOW MANY MILES AWAY FROM THE BORDER.

SO BY FOLLOWING THE EXIT SIGN NUMBERS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY TRACK HOW FAR YOU ARE FROM THE STATE'S BOUNDARY LINE.

SOMETIMES THINGS GET A LITTLE TRICKY FOR 2 INTERSTATES MERGE THE NUMBERING SYSTEM FOR ONE SUPERSEDES THE OTHER.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE HEADING DOWNTOWN ALONG I-NINETY WHERE IT NEEDS, I-94 THE EXIT NUMBERS JUMP FROM 84 DOWN 40, WHICH BRINGS US TO ONE MORE WRINKLE IN THE SYSTEM AROUND THE CITY.

I-90.

THAT'S THE SKYWAY.

DAN RYAN KENNEDY AND JANE ADDAMS AND I-94 OR SINGER EDITION FOR DAN RYAN.

KENNEDY EDENS AND THE TRI-STATE TOLLWAY MOSTLY RUN NORTH AND SOUTH.

BUT THE SIGNS ALL SAFE EAST AND WEST, WHAT WELL, DON'T FORGET ABOUT INTER PART OF THE INTERSTATES.

OUR HIGHWAYS ARE PART OF NATIONWIDE SYSTEM AND 1994 PROBABLY RUN EAST WEST ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THEY JUST GOT A AROUND PAST FUEL LAKE, MICHIGAN TO CARRY ON THEIR MERRY WAY.

SO THEY MOVE NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE WINDY CITY.

SO THE NEXT TIME YOU FIND YOURSELF STUCK IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC MAY NOT KNOW HOW LONG WE'LL BE SITTING THERE, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL KNOW HOW FAR YOUR BUMPER IS FROM THE BORDER.

AND YOU CAN THANK US FOR THAT WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR NEXT ROAD TRIP AND YOU CAN SEE MORE FROM OUR W T TW NEWS EXPLAINS SERIES ON OUR WEBSITE.

THAT'S ALL IT.

W T TW DOT COM SLASH EXPLAINS.

KEEPING UP WITH THE NEWS OF THE DAY CAN BE TOUGH.

BUT FOR 26 YEARS, PETERS SABOL HAS BEEN MAKING IT FUN FOR AUDIENCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AS HOST OF NPR'S WEEKLY RADIO SHOW.

WAIT, WAIT, DON'T TELL ME.

WE RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH HIM AND BEGAN BY ASKING HOW THE SHOW CAME TO BE IN FRONT OF A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE.

IT CAME TO BE IN FRONT OF A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A STUPID THING NOT TO DO IT IN FRONT A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE THAT EVEN WE EVENTUALLY FIGURE THAT SHOWS LAUNCHED, AS YOU SAID, 26 YEARS AGO, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE, LOOKED PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THEY DO NOW IN WBZ IN THEIR STUDIOS.

AND THE NOTION WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT AND REMOTELY THIS WAS SORT OF IF YOU WILL.

AND IT WAS I WOULD BE AS THE HOST IN CHICAGO.

OUR PANEL IS PAULA POUNDSTONE IN LOS ANGELES AT INFO BRING NEW YORK RYLAN JUNIOR WHEREVER YOU WANT.

HERE'S THE THING.

IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE AUDIENCE MEMBERS JUST.

AND YOU SAY SOMETHING FUNNY.

THEY MIGHT LAUGH.

AND IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT LAUGH, THEN THE COMEDIANS AND MYSELF MIGHT ACTUALLY TRY HARDER TO BE FUNNY AND SOME INCENTIVE SYSTEM.

SO EVENTUALLY WE FIGURE THAT OUT AND STARTED DOING IT LIVE EVERY WEEK, STARTING BELIEVE IN EARLY 2005 AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, WHEN WE HAD TO GO BACK DURING THE ZOOM, IT WAS TERRIBLE.

IT WAS LIKE HAVING TO MOVE BACK INTO YOUR CHILDHOOD HOME AFTER A LIFETIME THINKING YOU WERE GETTING AWAY AND IT STILL WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT THE POWER RANGERS POSTERS GOING TO BE ON THAT.

WELL, WE I THINK WE ALL MOVED MOVED ON.

BUT AS WE ALL GREW INTO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

SO LISTEN TO THE SHOW, OBVIOUSLY LIKE EVERYONE IS QUICK AND FUNNY AND WITTY AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO KIND OF BE ON YOUR TOES.

I UP WITH YOUR TITLE EVERY MONTH.

COMPANY JOKE.

YES.

DO MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU PREPARE FOR THE SHOW ALL WEEK JUST AS EVERYBODY DOES, BUT HOW OFTEN, YOU KNOW, GET A LIVE RADIO.

YOU'VE GOT FUNNY PEOPLE OVER HERE AND YOU GOT PANNELL IS CALLING IT AND YOU JUST KIND OF ABANDON SCRIPT ALL THE TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALL THE TIME I RECOMMENDED IN CASE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, HAD NO CHANCE TO A SO MY MY MY COLLEAGUES AND I WITH WHOM I WORK, WE PREPARE A SCRIPT, RESEARCH STORIES AND FIND SO YOUR STORIES IN THE NEWS.

WE THINK ABOUT THEM TO MAKE JOKES ABOUT THEM.

TRY THEM OUT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY WRITERS ROOM 5.

AND SO WHEN I GO IN FRONT OF THE WHENEVER THANK GOT TO BROADCASTING.

LIKE, KNOW, LIKE, RIGHT.

MEAN, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I AM TERRIBLE ON LIVE TV.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING GOD KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE SOUTH WITH THE POINT OF THE STORY IS THAT WHEN WE TAKE OUR SHOW, I THAT'S CRAZY.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT THESE PANELISTS.

THEY'RE NOT.

THAT'S THEY'RE NOT.

AND SO THEY'RE EVEN IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE DRY.

IT'S LIKE PREPARING ON A ROAD TRIP AND YOU'VE MAPPED OUT THE DESTINATION AND THEN YOU DECIDE TO SHARE THE WHEEL WITH FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE MAP.

NO, THEY'RE NOT IN THE SOUTH.

THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN GO LEFT SAYING INTO A DITCH WHICH IS MORE LIKELY THAN GOING RIGHT.

THIS IS NPR.

CHANCES MY JOB IS JUST TO GO WITH THEM OUT OF THE CAR AND THEN THAT WAS REALLY AN EXTENDED METAPHOR, BUT WAS OK IF IT DOESN'T, WE CAN JUST EDITED OUT IN POST, RIGHT?

EXACTLY IS LAND.

THEN THE PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER SEE IT AND TAKE WILL NEVER KNOW ABOUT IT.

BUT THE POINT OF THE STORY IS YES.

AND I THINK PART OF OUR SHOWS APPEAL IN AN ERA WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL LIKE JOHN OVER AND STEPHEN COLBERT AND THE LATE NIGHT HOST.

ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE DOING AMAZING, THE WONDERFULLY PRODUCED SHARP COMEDY AND SATIRE.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF MAKING IT UP AS WE GO ALONG ULTIMATELY.

AND AND THAT HAS SOME APPEAL AS LONG AS YOU CAN END OF THE DUMB STUFF, WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T DO A LOT.

SHOWS A NEWS FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE ARE CONSUMING NEWS.

WE OUGHT TO KNOW THAT.

BUT WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, HOW DO YOU KEEP THE NEWS FUN?

INTERESTING IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF.

WHERE I SEE IT, FAKE NEWS.

I KNOW.

WELL, WE CAUGHT WE KIND OF HAVE A NEW STRATEGY.

WE KIND OF IGNORE FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THE MAJOR NEWS, THE DEPRESSING STUFF, THE SERIOUS STUFF AND JUST DO PARTNERS PRETTY WHAT WE COVER FOR ARTS AND YOU ELIMINATIONS PROCESS OF EXCULPATORY.

THINK IT'S A VERY WELL, NO, I MEAN, WE A NUMBER THAT YES, BASICALLY ANY BODILY FLUID.

THAT'S IT'S GOING A LITTLE GROSS KNOW WHAT PEOPLE LIKE ABOUT US IS AND TO BE SERIOUS FOR A MINUTE IS IS WHERE THE NEWS THAT WANT TO PRESS YOU WERE THE NEWS THAT WILL AMUSE YOU.

WE ARE THE NEWS THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

MAKE YOU WONDER ABOUT THE VAST BREATH OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

AND WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT THE SERIOUS NEWS, WHICH WE DO MEAN WILL BE TALKING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS WEEK'S SHOW ABOUT THE NEW PARENT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS.

WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT OUR MOTTO IS, WE SAY THE THINGS ON THE RADIO THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE REDUCED TO SHOUTING AT THE RADIO.

SO IF YOU'RE WONDERFUL REPORTERS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU JUST HAD ON THE SHOW, PROBABLY THINK THINGS BUT CANNOT SAY THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE SERIOUS REPORTERS.

WE ARE YOU SAY WHICH THEY AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE APPEAL AS WELL.

THAT WERE SORT OF THE NPR'S UNLEASHED.

LOOKS LIKE ME LIKE AN ANGER TRANSIT.

NO, AND WE WAY.

IN FACT, I'M THINKING LIKE OF MOVIE INSIDE OUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE HELP, WHICH WAY I WAS IN A CAMEO IN THE FIRST ONLY BUT IF YOU THINK LIKE IF IF NPR BRAIN AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S ANGER.

IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ME, DON'T YOU THINK KIND OF GET IT KIND PR ZANGERLE INVOLVED.

THAT'S BASICALLY TOTAL DEATH.

THE TRACKS THAT, YEAH, I GET IT.

SO TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT HOSTING THE SHOW SINCE IT WAS CREATED.

26 YEARS AGO YOU WEREN'T QUITE SURE OR NOT, WE'RE QUITE SURE.

BUT DID YOU EVER SUSPECT IT WOULD LAST THIS LONG?

NEVER DENY FOR A MINUTE.

I HAD A LOT OF AMBITIONS WHEN I WAS A YOUNG PERSON IS AND PEOPLE TEND TO DO.

IT WAS A PLAYWRIGHT AND SCREENWRITER SITES IMAGINING I WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON TO WIN, NOT JUST THE OSCAR EMMY, TONY AND GRAMMY, BUT ALSO A NOBEL.

I BE THE TO BE THE GOT RIGHT?

THAT WAS AMBITION.

WHEN I WAS A EVEN OLDER THAN A KID.

AND WHEN THIS WONDERFUL JOB AND NPR WHICH HAD ALWAYS LOVED.

AND HERE I WAS A LISTENER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS CAME UP.

I SEE MOST OF NICE LITTLE STOP AND THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE ON.

GET TO ONE OF THOSE LETTERS AND INSTEAD OF HERE, WHICH SOMETIMES IS A LITTLE STRANGE AND SURPRISING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN GRATIFYING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS BECAUSE WE DOING IT SO LONG.

THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO I MENTIONED, THEY GREW UP WITH US.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF THEIR LIVES, WHICH IS FLATTERING.

SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN A PART OF FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS.

A LOT OF SAY WOMEN IN THEIR 20'S BRING THEIR DAD WHO'S IN THEIR 60'S.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE STILL LISTEN TO THIS ONE.

WE WENT TO SOCCER PRACTICE.

IT WAS A BONDING THING.

AND NOW I'M TAKING IN HERE AND THAT'S FABULOUS.

SO I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD EVER BE A PUBLIC RADIO INSTITUTION.

AND YET.

THAT'S WHAT THE DOOR.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

MY ADDRESS PUBLIC, TO DO IN PUBLIC PUBLIC RADIO STATION DURING PUBLIC RADIO INSTITUTION.

TALKING TO PETER SAGO, THANKS AGAIN TO HIM FOR JOINING US.

UP NEXT, WE STOPPED BY A LANDMARK THEATER IN LITTLE VILLAGE.

IF YOU'VE EVER VISITED LITTLE VILLAGE, IT'S HARD TO MISS THE APOLLOS 2000 THEATER, WHICH IS NOW ONE OF CHICAGO'S NEWEST LANDMARKS FOR YEARS.

THE PLACE HAS BEEN A HUB OF A HUB FOR CELEBRATIONS OF LATINO CULTURE.

BUT THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING AND ITS OWNERS GOES MUCH DEEPER.

WE VISITED EARLIER THIS YEAR AHEAD OF THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

HERE'S JOANNA HERNANDEZ WITH STORY.

FOR NEARLY 35 YEARS.

JAVIER AND LYDIA GUTTING BILL, WELCOME ARTISTS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO THE APOLLOS 2000 THEATER IN LITTLE VILLAGE.

THIS IS ALSO AN AMAZING WHIRL MUSIC BAND HOLD HIS FIRST FROM COSTA RICA TO SHARE FOR A AND THEN THERE VANDY HAVE LIKE A MEXICAN PUERTO RICAN.

THE SOMEBODY FROM AFRICA CAMERA ROOM, BRAZILIAN JUST AWESOME GET DO WHAT THEY'VE ALSO HOSTED POLITICIANS FROM ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

THE BIGGEST EVENT WAS A A GATHERING FOR AL GORE WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND GATHERED COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR WRESTLING FASHION SHOWS IN KEENE SAYING IN US, THE BUILDING KNOWN AS THE MARSHALL SQUARE THEATER WHEN OPENED IN 1917, IS NOW BEING DESIGNATED A CHICAGO LANDMARK.

A VS OLDEST DAUGHTER EVELYN STILL SAYS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS IN THE MAKING.

A LOT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO ADAPT TO OUR CURRENT TIMES, BUT BEING ABLE TO BRING BACK AND RESTORE THE EXTERIOR OF THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY OF HONORING THE PAST AND HISTORY OF THE BELT IN ITS ARCHITECTURAL BEAUTY HISTORY CAPTURED IN THE TERRA COTTA FACADE MARQUEE THE PROMINENT DOME CEILING AND EVEN THE OLD PROJECTION ROOM WHERE OPERATORS LEFT BEHIND CARBON RODS AND FILM REELS.

THAT'S THE TIME CAPSULE BECAUSE WE SELL THEM GO UP THERE.

THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL THING.

YOU KNOW, WITH AND HER, YOU KNOW, TOO, ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THAT.

THAT SENSE OF.

OF RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED.

I MEANT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BILL THAT THE ARCHITECT OF THE SIGNED IT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONE, BUT THEY'RE STILL PRESENT HERE AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THEM FOR THE AMAZING JOB THAT THEY DID.

BUT THE CRESSMAN SHIP AND BIG NAME PERFORMERS AREN'T THE ONLY HISTORY CONTAINED IN THESE WALLS.

IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN NAOMI IS TO GO UP ON STAGE AND JUST SEEING HIM, SENIOR ARTISTS AND PLAY PRETEND I AND STEW GYMNASTICS EVERYTHING.

I THINK WE BOTH WOULD.

YEAH.

ARE.

WE WOULD ROLLER BLADE.

JUST THE DENTIST.

YEAH.

TO THE 3 OF US IN THE 1980'S HEAVY AND RUN A SUCCESSFUL NIGHTCLUB IN THE BUT WHEN THE CLUB'S ROOF CAVED THE COUPLE WHO ONLY BEEN MARRIED ABOUT 6 MONTHS, SAW THEIR FUTURE CRASHING DOWN LIFE OR LIKE NOW WHAT WE HAD BEEN SO 6, WE WERE BEING SO SUCCESSFUL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR DREAMS ARE JUST DOWN THE LITERALLY RIGHT DOWN THE BUT HE'S LIKE AT THAT POINT, WOULD LIKE THAT WE LOSE.

HAVE BACK TO AN OFFER HE HAD RECEIVED TO PURCHASE THE SHUTTERED MARSHALL SQUARE THEATER.

IT WAS A DEAL HE DIDN'T TAKE SERIOUSLY AT FIRST.

BUT AT THE URGING OF THE BUILDING'S PREVIOUS OWNER, WE CAME TO SEE THE PACE.

AND WHEN I SO A NICE IT LOOKED LIKE A PALACE FOR ME BECAUSE HE WAS THE AT THE TIME WILL BE TEETERS.

WORD LIKE A PALACE.

SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, BUT THE FIRST MOMENT SO THEN IT WAS LIKE A DREAM TO THE OWNERS THIS PLACE.

THE PLACE WILL BECOME A SECOND HOME TO THE COUPLE AND THEIR DAUGHTERS.

EVELYN, NAOMI AND I SAYS WHO GREW UP EXPLORING THE THEATER.

YOU COULD REALLY BE AN ARTIST GO UP ON STAGE.

I MEAN, I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT USING YOUR IMAGINATION AND NOW.

I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE A CHILD AND GET A SENSE OF WHAT MY PARENTS MUST THOUGHT.

SO I ENVISION THIS MEAN A PLAYGROUND FOR HIM AS WELL AND BEING ABLE TO JUST ENJOY IT AS HAVE YET IN LIBYA BEGAN TO PASS TO BUSINESS TO THE NEXT GENERATION.

THEY SAY THEY HOPE LANDMARKS.

THAT IS WHERE REVITALIZE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING RECOGNITION TO A HIDDEN GEM IN THE HEART OF LATINO COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T REALLY SEE MANY LANDMARKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLY DISINVESTMENT AND WHERE THERE'S A HIGH POPULATION OF MINORITIES.

SO IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THE PRESTIGE OF BEING A LANDMARK TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND ALTHOUGH MANY BIG NAMES HAVE WALKED THROUGH THEIR DOORS, THE GUIDING THOSE SAY IT'S THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO'VE MADE THE GREATEST IMPACT.

AND I TRULY DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS THIS IS PART OF MY COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO NOT JUST BE A PART OF IT, BUT ALSO SERVE IT.

AND HELP THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY ESTABLISH MEMORIES AGAIN CONTINUES PART OF THE HISTORY AND THE WEALTH OF HISTORY AND STORIES OF THIS BUILDING AND HAVE THAT FORM PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS A GREAT SENSE OF PRIDE FOR US FOR CHICAGO TONIGHT.

I'M JOANNA HERNANDEZ.

AND THE SPACE OFFICIALLY RECEIVED LANDMARK STATUS IN APRIL.

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