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What’s next for public safety after the ShotSpotter contract comes to a close. And the Chicago Teachers Union on the future of CPS leadership.
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What’s next for public safety after the ShotSpotter contract comes to a close. And the Chicago Teachers Union on the future of CPS leadership.
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I'm Brandis Friedman.
Here's what we're looking at.
A once prominent figure at City Hall begins to serve his prison term.
>> The administration is is entitled to his own opinion but not own back.
>> Despite defiant efforts from City Council, the ShotSpotter contract comes to close Chicago's deputy mayor of community safety tells us what's next.
And the Chicago Teachers Union's no confidence vote in public schools.
Leader Pedro Martinez.
>> And now to some of today's top stories from arguably the most powerful person at City Hall to inmate number 5, 3, 6, 9, 8 Dash, 4, 2, 4, former Alderman Ed Burke reported to federal prison today.
Burke is in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons in Thomson Illinois.
Nearly 150 miles west of Chicago back in June, the longtime Chicago alderman was sentenced to 2 years in federal prison.
Plus, a 2 million dollar fine after his conviction on 13 counts of racketeering, bribery and attempted extortion Eighty-year-old Burke also lost his $96,000 annual city pension shortly after his sentencing this summer.
Family members of an Indiana man who died while in police handcuffs say he used a familiar phrase before his death.
I can't breathe.
They have the support of national civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who is calling on officials to release the body cam footage of the incident.
And >> America, anything.
And the tragic killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.
That is >> And citizens says, I can't agree the first time.
We should believe them and we should take it seriously.
>> Attorneys say Ryker Earl experienced 2 seizures on September.
8th prompted 9-1-1 call.
But they say the situation escalated when police and EMT's arrived leading to excessive force.
Earl who also suffers from asthma was handcuffed and pinned facedown.
He died 2 days later.
A social media post from the Jasper counter.
Jasper County sheriff says Earl family attorneys are making false or misleading claims about the incident and intend to release the body camera footage once the Indiana State Police investigation has cleared them to do so.
If the northern section of Dusable Lakeshore Drive is on your evening or night time route, you might want to find an alternative this week.
C DOT says crews are still resurfacing between Irving Park Road and La Salle Drive.
Lane closures will only affect southbound traffic with significant impacts starting at 07:00PM each night this week followed by complete overnight lane closures at 09:00PM and reopening at 06:00AM.
It's expected to be complete by late October for specifics on which ramps will be affected.
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One-on-one with Chicago's deputy mayor of community safety on what comes after ShotSpotter right after this.
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>> Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is exploring other options for first responder technology.
That's after the city's contract with gunshot detection system shot spotter expired Sunday with sensors starting to be removed today the contract came to an end despite an effort by some city council members to save the controversial system saying it's a crucial tool for police.
>> If one life he's saved with gunshot tech.
Now detection technology, then it is absolutely worth having.
How can Brandon Johnson, the mayor of the most American of American cities, put a price tag on saving lives.
>> Say that we spent 100 million dollars on ShotSpotter is a lie when the 53 Million.
>> Joining us now with more on what comes next.
Is Gary and gate would Chicago's deputy mayor of community safety.
We also invited Ralph Clark, the CEO of Sound thinking that is the company behind shot spotter.
But he declined.
Deputy Mayor, welcome Good.
Thank you for joining us.
Good to see you again.
to be So yesterday the city issued a request for information, obviously different from a request for proposal for first responder technology.
What kind of technology might that entail?
Well, we're excited to see what's out there far too long.
We've been pigeonholed law for technology.
>> And it's up to us to kind of see out there in the atmosphere.
So we can understand what better technology can serve the people of city, Chicago.
So you're aware that other kinds of technology exists.
Some thinking isn't the only player in this game?
No, absolutely not.
Right.
And though some people may think they are and I think, you know, that is a mistake.
So we want to see everything the south everything that's available to deliver on the promises to the people in the city of Chicago actually bring this safety were looking for.
It seems like the sort of reference to the kind of technology is first responder technology is the sort of a new term.
Is this something that something King introduced as as it fought to save its contract?
Well, that was a new technology, new terminology for them, but not for us, right?
We've always looked at how we help our first responders.
>> Not only are police department fire departments and even on a see call takers in the 9-1-1 calls.
because those folks, the first folks to actually hear from people on seats are really thinking about.
>> How we pull together technology that can not only help our first responders but also drive crime down throughout the city.
>> Why not start this process months ago when plans to cancel the contract were first announced?
Yeah.
Well, we started the conversations months ago, right?
We started exploring conversations that are working group and our partners understand what do we want to see?
What can we explore and what could be next.
Now they are 5 coming out.
Gives us time to really understand what is in the atmosphere and what can be developed for the city of Chicago and also gives us time really understand who can be a big player in the city.
Help us out.
>> Your office also started a working group to develop alternatives to shot spotter.
Their first meeting was an August.
Is that accurate?
Well, the first official meeting of the entire group, but members of the been plenty of times before that.
>> So they can have a better understanding, not just alternatives that that technology, but I'll turn it is in general to understand what can we be doing different what technology is out there.
What can we do for victims and survivors of crime and what can we do it other spaces as well?
So was ever just about that particular technology at company?
>> What what are goals in the metrics for this group had, you know, that are amenable deliver a report at some point.
What's the plan?
Well, they're playing and the goals are simple.
I got work together to bring recommendations to the mayor to the administration and help us build it out.
>> The goal is what we're looking for.
Not only in this RFI because that's already out, but also we're looking for the technology partner.
If we go that route.
>> Are there any concerns that any new technology will also come from a private company?
And that could also lead to some of the challenges that already existed with Shotspotter with sound thinking, for example, some thinking, obviously being the company that owns and operates shot Spotter, for example, the or profiting from from taxpayers data inconsistency.
I'm not having full access to the data because a private company or the any of those concerns in.
There's always those concerns.
And I think this is going to be important as we build out.
>> Do the RFI process into the RFP process.
What we require those companies to be 2 partners with the city of Chicago.
If you want to be a partner with the city of Chicago, you show up and work together to bring safety.
We don't bring fear mongering.
Want you to bring safety to the city of Chicago in partnership.
>> some thinking big Indian stalling the ShotSpotter sensors today and they said that they would plan to respond to the city's RFI for this technology.
And they've, in fact, offered 48% discount on the contracts that what you're hearing as well.
I heard that in the news.
They didn't tell us that directly.
Eunice, I heard that in the news and they also asked for 15 month contract on that.
So it sounded more like a sole source contract that they were looking for.
>> With the understanding that his other technology in the market, we need to be able to give other people a chance to see that with the city of Chicago to deliver on the promises that are made.
>> In a statement, Chicago Police Department says, quote, CPD frequently adjust our public safety efforts based on the needs of our residents and the resources available to us.
As we move forward, we remind residents to call 9-1-1 with as much information and detail as possible when they hear loud reports that could resemble gunfire.
It's imperative that we all do our part to keep the city safe and protect our families.
Gary, and many, Chicagoans are reluctant to dial 9-1-1.
What can the city do to address that?
And is that a result of the real lack of trust that exists between residents and police officer?
Yeah, but I think a lot of that trust is being built back.
I think the work that has happened between Chicago Police Department, some community members.
>> Being very intentional with the leadership of Superintendent Larry Snelling and the partnership we have that this administration office in the mayor in particular, how we show up in communities.
And yes, we want people to call 9-1-1.
Yes, we want police to show up and we want them to be a part of the community.
You know, we talk about community policing, the reality of it is that needs to be a part of the fabric of the work that happens in the city.
And we know they can't do it alone.
We know that safety is not just the responsibility of Chicago Police Department.
There's a responsibility of everyone in the city.
So as not just how they respond, here is how we work together to bring this safe.
>> There were 33 votes for an ordinance that would have given the police superintendent the power to extend the ShotSpotter contract.
Mayor's office has said that this ordinance has no legal weight, but what does it tell you that many members of the city council were, you know, split on this issue?
33 to 14, but also that they were split from the mayor on this issue.
>> Well, I don't think this is anything about their relationship with the mayor.
What I do think it they have concerns and we can address those concerns together.
And this is again, why we have an RFI to see what technology options are out there because we can look beyond what we currently have.
We owe that to the people of Chicago to look beyond what we currently have.
Yes, we have crime trending in the right directions, but we want to expand on that and we want continue to bring crime down and continue to explore It is the RFI process is sort of a reflection of how this >> Sound thinking shot spotter contract came to be for the city of Chicago in the first place.
You know, that's a great question.
And a country can play some time ago before, well before administration.
And I can tell I can promise you that conversation wasn't open is a transparent as this will be with the RFI process working groups with engagement with communities because people need to know what the options are out there.
That's the commitment as mayors made to the city.
>> That's a commitment the entire administration has made to the city.
We want this to be an inclusive process.
You mentioned the working group inclusive process.
Who's who's on this working group?
A good, much time to a good mix of folks, community leaders, law enforcement, street outreach organizations, violence interrupt leaders, City employees, not city employees.
And we're going to continue to grow faith leaders as well.
We're going to continue to go to bring people together.
Some elected officials to we really want to continue to grow on his working group.
And we really want to take this conversation to communities that have been impacted by violence so their voices can be heard consistently so they can really see what some of the options are that we can bring to the table.
>> Part of the concern and and part of the argument from folks who have supported keeping shot spotter has been, you know, there's still crime in our communities and there have been conflicting reports about how much it works.
Of course.
What do you say to some of those folks who say we need to be doing everything we can and let's keep it.
>> What I would say to them is I agree we can be that we should be doing everything we can.
But I would also say, as you look at how the Chicago Police Department continues to show up along with our partners along with the other work that we continue to do you see that crime is trending in the right direction.
Obviously those numbers alone don't bring the safety that is needed.
But I can promise you the way people feel safe.
One day with this technology, they that feeling didn't change overnight.
Right?
Someone turning up the speakers in a neighborhood in their communities.
change their fill in the safety overnight.
What is going to change that is how we invest in people, how we bring crime down and how we hold folks accountable.
And we can only do that together in partnership.
>> This will be the has not vetoed this ordinance that was passed last week, correct?
Correct.
Okay.
As of today, he still has not.
But if and when he does as he said he would, this will be the first mayoral veto since 2006 with such a defiant city council.
How do you think the mayor will continue to to be able to work alderman?
Well, he's he's had a great relationship work with all of >> He'll continue to do that.
He'll continue to deliver on every promise he's made now only those campaign, but to the people in the city of Chicago.
So those relationships will continue to grow in, continue to get better because just like those aldermen and the mayor, we all have a responsibility to deliver not only to our constituents, but all 2.7 million people in the city.
>> Companies have until November.
First to get submissions for this RFI.
What's next after that?
>> After the RFI, we review what comes from there and we start rp process, right?
So we're really looking forward to what comes next.
And really looking forward to seeing what options are out there to really see how technology is advanced over the last few years and how we can help continue to bring safety up and the crime trends now.
Okay.
Deputy Mayor Community safety Darian Gate would thank you again for joining us.
Always a pleasure brings.
Thank you.
Of course.
>> Up next, one on one with the head of the Chicago Teachers Union.
Tensions between Chicago's mayor in the leader of Chicago.
Public schools are escalating.
The Chicago Sun-Times reported Friday that Mayor Brandon Johnson told CPS CEO Pedro Martinez, he wants him to leave his position.
And also last week, the Chicago teachers Union House of Delegates issued a no confidence vote for Martinez.
This as the CTU and CPS are in contract negotiations right now and the Board of Education just approved a new five-year plan laying out the district's goals.
Joining us now with more is Stacy Davis.
Gates, president of the Chicago Teachers Union.
We also invited Chicago Public Schools, CEO Pedro Martinez, but he declined this evening.
Stacy, welcome back.
Thank you for joining Thank you for having So you all announced just last night that your House of taking a vote of no confidence against CEO Pedro Martinez last week at your House of Delegates meeting last time I saw this happen was under Forrest Claypool, who was appointed by then-Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
What led to this this time?
>> Well, brand is right now.
We have oversize classrooms, kindergarten classrooms with over.
35 students in them.
We have over 1200 teacher vacancies currently in the district.
We have schools that do not have the type of teacher assistant that we need their we have bilingual students whose needs are going unmet and the fallback is Google Translate we have a list that was just uncovered of schools that will be closed.
>> The combination.
>> Of all of those things and the lack of movement at the bargaining table contributed to a unanimous vote of our House of Delegates.
In fact, and their lack of confidence in the leadership of the Chicago Public Schools currently not unanimous vote.
Your House of Delegates is what 500 1000 I say it was over 60600.
Okay.
>> Here Chicago tonight because you you mentioned the list of school closures just last month, Pedro Martinez reiterated his pledge not to close any schools.
As you've mentioned, there has been reports about a potential list of schools that could be closed as the district faces.
>> Its budget deficit.
What we know about this alleged list of potential closures will its list.
We have the list.
We were not supposed to have the list.
In fact.
>> There was a document that we received that had.
>> Other tabs attached to it, which where, you know, encrypted of sorts.
And so we had to break that.
So this is not something that anyone wanted us to have.
And so then there by receiving it.
The question is now, why was this list commissioned?
And if this list is no longer an active, then who made those decisions and why?
I think the CEO ohsa some explanations, he doesn't deny the existence of the list.
In fact, if you look closely at the school district's budget, coupled with the offering of raises that he may through a press release those scenes also contribute to a couple of things.
The layoff and the codification of over 5,000 educators as well as furlough days.
These 2 things couple together begged the question.
What does the CEO see as the future of the Chicago Public Schools and how does he help to create that vision without cuts consolidations or closures.
The codification of thousands of job vacancies.
These things do not help us have a fully staffed fully funded school community.
In fact, it's opposite of that.
>> A year ago, first day of school, there seem to much more unity between Pedro Martinez.
The mayor, of course, in CTU more than we've seen in previous first days of school when that kind of showing is made what happened in the last year?
>> Well, never has there been a time think this level of alignment with the Chicago teachers Union, the Chicago Board of Education and the mayor's office, the Board of Education just passed the 5 year strategic plan.
That plan mirrors our contract proposal and it also mirrors the mayor's education transition report.
All of those things mean a line.
We've never had that before in the history of this.
The only thing that's a sore thumb is the CEO of our school district.
He's not listening to the board of Education who say, yes, we want vision and that it and these contract proposals or else they would have passed the strategic plan unanimously.
The confusion in the frustration right now it's palpable because Pedro Martinez is CEO of our school district, says one thing in the public.
And that's quite another thing in his direction of his staff and at the bargaining table, there have been reports that the mayor, as we've said, has called on page or to resign in a statement sent to families and staff on Friday night, Martinez said, quote, >> Are students of clearly benefited from the increased stability in our school system.
We are confident that our work to date has set the foundation for more success and will increase access to opportunities for all students.
We will continue to lead with integrity and transparency in service of our students.
Making no mention of these reports that we've But also it sounds like he does not have plans to step aside as of as of that e-mail that he sent out on Friday night.
But what do you make of that?
But he's I make of this the same thing that I just said, that there is a PR Pedro.
>> And then there is another Pedro, our CEO is doing 2 things.
He's making presentation to the stakeholders is that he is in alignment.
>> With the board of Education with the mayor of Chicago and with the teachers and the PARA professionals and clinicians and on the other end of this, he is saying that all of linemen is impossible to bring to fruition because we don't have the funding and then he doubles down and says and I don't have a plan to win the funding either.
Pedro Martinez has to do 2 things he has to get in line with his board of education with his boss, the mayor and with the workers who make the district and he needs to create a vision and a plan, how we win the revenue in the funding to offer students with a desired, offering them cuts only is not the vision we have for this district and our union will not go backwards.
We've done that are ready.
It doesn't work.
>> You've also been pointing to some of Martinez's work when he served CFO of CPS some years ago.
What is it that you think about his work then relates to the work he's doing today?
Well, as the disingenuous nature of his critique of the financial standing of the district.
>> When, in fact, it is the the work he did to see and securing creating the types of loans tax.
6 watts that the district is being oppressed by right now that he is saying that he won't do.
That's fine.
That you won't do it.
And what will you do and what accountability do you take for putting our district and the type of financial straits is in right now to actually act as if he has not been a participated.
And the dysfunction of the district.
It is wrong he should be accountable for that.
And to also abdicate responsibility for creating the plan that we need to make sure that we have smaller class sizes and a nurse social worker in every school that 100% instead of 20% of our schools have libraries and librarians it.
To that point, how does the district pay for that, though?
Because we all know the district is facing a budget deficit this year to the point that it has decided against making its pension payment or part of a >> pension payment that the district normally takes on and facing an even bigger budget deficit next year.
You know, I'll answer the question like this.
The first day of school I was at Po Classico and the Pullman neighborhood and I met a mother there.
>> Who exclaimed about her experience, their child's experience there and was very happy about the first day of school.
She talked about the difficulty she's had as a family, getting her child to and from school because that's the selective enrollment school.
she no longer has bus service from Chicago.
Public schools.
But what she did is that she got another job over the summer.
She figured out how to bring new revenue into her so she can afford to buy a transportation vehicle to get her child to school every day.
Pedro can't tell us.
No.
And that cuts are okay.
When black single mothers every day in the city are figuring out how make ends meet, had to get their kids to school and how to do it with a smile.
He's got to do more than say, cuts closures and consolidations.
30 seconds left.
Will it take a new CEO to get a contract?
>> That's you know, that does not mean that disruption for CPS, families and students.
for as many times as I've said, a negotiating temple.
I've never sat there with the CEO of the Chicago Public Schools.
They don't come to the table.
In fact, they should bring Jim friends it back to the table.
Maybe we can get a deal.
That's saying something.
If you're offering to bring Jim frantic back and I know he's watching so.
>> Maybe you've got to call each other.
Maybe maybe 8 Stacy Davis Gates as Chicago Teachers Union.
Thanks again.
Thank you.
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