>> Hello and thanks for joining us on Chicago tonight.

I'm Brandis Friedman.

Here's what we're looking at.

>> It is scary.

But when we come together, we're strong.

>> How local groups are mobilizing to push back against possible ramped up immigration enforcement.

>> Chicago is a hole right now.

>> Legal questions swirl over the possibility of National Guard troops in Chicago.

And historians warned the Trump administration's crackdown on the Smithsonian could have a chilling effect on museums across the country.

>> First off tonight, local officials and community groups are gearing up for federal immigration agents.

They expect to hit Chicago streets in less than 24 hours, but it remains unclear whether the National Guard or other, quote, armed military personnel will be joining the ICE strike team, whether or not the National Guard shows up.

Governor JB Pritzker is warning residents who are planning on protesting to do so peacefully.

>> Part of their kind of nefarious plan is begin with ice cause mayhem on the ground and by Ver doing that, say that there's a need for military troops on the ground to protect ice.

And so that's why I've talked a lot about for the people are going to protests.

They've got to protest peacefully, not give them any reason to call in National Guard or military troops of other types.

>> Meanwhile, The Washington Post is reporting that the Pentagon has signed off on using Naval Station Great Lakes, 30 miles north of Chicago as an operations hub for whatever action the administration is planning.

Officials tell the post it could be used to House National Guard were active duty service members.

If the president orders troops into the city as he has done in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., the approval comes after the Department of Homeland Security sought permission in late August to use the base for ICE agents and other law enforcement personnel.

The president of Northwestern University is stepping down following a tumultuous 3 years.

The university says President Michael Schill will remain on the job until an interim president is named shows.

Tenure has been marred by an ongoing battle with the Trump administration which is frozen the school's federal funding in attempts to influence campus policy in July, the staff cut the school cut 5% of staff and show also oversaw the school's handling of pro-Palestinian protests on campus.

And a bombshell hazing scandal in the athletic department.

Up next discussion and debate over whether or not the National Guard should be deployed in Chicago.

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And the support these don't >> District of Columbia officials are filing a lawsuit today challenging the Trump administration's deployment of the National Guard to the city.

The legal challenge follows a federal judge's ruling that President Trump's decision to send National Guard troops to Los Angeles was illegal.

Still, the president continues to promise sending troops to Chicago and other Democrat led cities to assist immigration enforcement and or fight crime.

Mayor Brandon Johnson signed an executive order Saturday in response to the president's threats affirming that Chicago police will not collaborate with federal agents on joint law enforcement patrols, arrest operations or other law enforcement duties, including civil immigration enforcement.

Joining us now are Alderman Raymond Lopez of the 15th Ward, which includes Brighton Park Gage Park and back of the Yards.

33rd Ward Alderwoman Rozanna Rodriguez Sanchez, whose constituents are in neighborhoods like Albany Park, Irving Park and Avondale and Chicago can't College of Law.

Professor Harold Krantz, thanks to all 3 of you for joining us.

Ok?

So this is a complicated topic.

And we know that the president has congressional authorization to send federalized National Guard troops only under extraordinary circumstances.

The president has cited the city as being a quote, crime ridden hellhole.

As we heard earlier in the show as the reason for needing that military presence.

We, of course, Professor Craig, we know that they have no arrest power.

Do you think his reasoning might hold up legally?

No, I don't think so.

I mean, I think that he's actually put foot in his mouth as he often does because to the extent that there is a >> Small window of power, too.

Basically employee Texas National Guard's Chicago.

You can only be to support a special federal mission.

Maybe can only be as well if the governor can sense.

We don't have any kind of legal precedent on that.

But even if the governor has to concern has to be a federal mission, ordinary.

Law enforcement is not a federal mission.

That's a local mission.

So into our federalist structure of our constitution, the print press would be a stronger ground if you did, as you said Los Angeles.

But he was there because ICE couldn't do its We do know that ice has been able to do its job.

So it's premature to send in troops even for good reasons.

But obviously, but just ordinary criminal law enforcement, clearly that's against the Constitution.

What do you make of argument or guess it's the argument that Governor Pritzker, the suspicion that Governor Pritzker has that by for sending in ICE agents, there could be a disruption when the community pushes back against that.

>> And then that is what would trigger the National Guard's necessity.

I mean, it's a possibility, right?

I mean, that's what I think the governor is worried about.

I think many people worried about to give an excuse to the president to send the National Guard and the question then would become whether the National Guard becomes federalized as it was in Los Angeles or whether he's >> going to follow this gambit of trying to Texas National Guard, which is of far even more frightening prospect.

>> Alderman Lopez during an appearance earlier this week on news nation.

You mentioned that despite the city's falling crime numbers, it's still an ongoing issue.

Of course, you are proponent of having the National Guard present in Chicago so that Chicago police officers can spread out to the communities and their jobs going after criminals in those communities.

How would you like to see the National Guard deployed?

>> But first off, let me I don't believe that Donald Trump's characterization Chicago as hellhole is accurate.

I think we all at this table can agree on that.

But what I do know is this is that at a time when we're still seeing violence in our neighborhoods, my ward in particular had a young man yesterday shot in the head, walking home through the alley 2 days ago.

Students were gunned down by a Venezuelan migrant.

We do need help.

We do need officers back in our neighborhoods.

So if the president is able to send the National Guard to the city of Chicago, we can use those uniformed officers, military officers to protect the city's assets like the being like making the Mag mile, maybe peer in other locations so that they are no longer guarded by police officers.

For 24 hours a day those officers can in turn return back to police districts and answer those thousands of 9-1-1.

Calls it go unanswered wars like mine and was on his every single day.

That's what makes sense to me as well as taking those federal agencies and using them as well.

Other Rodriguez, what is your reaction to all of this?

>> That's what your fellow arguing for.

I think that of many try saying communities and doing military occupation anywhere that the cater ships to I want to believe that we want to protect our democracy.

We have seen such an incredible in for flan in crime and homicides in Chicago.

And that is just on the night all time has drop to levels that we have only seen in the 60's.

And it is because of the approaches that we have been taking, that the city council, this costs us a lot.

The idea of long-term investments and a lot of times we talk when we talk about violence prevention, my colleagues talk about well, that is if you invest now you're going to get a result, 10 years down the road.

But that's not what happened with the arpa money.

There was a lot of investments in violence prevention and they are paying off actually really quickly.

So what we need to be doing is expanding those investments instead of occupying and terrorizing communities use in the community here.

That haven't been also reporting 9-1-1, reporting emergencies the way we used to either, you know, a lot of the technology that we use like ShotSpotter and others.

>> Has been disconnected in the city.

So to say that this credit don't want I want to get into Dover, relitigating right She is.

But do want to ask a question other Alderwoman Rodriguez, as we talk about black and brown neighborhoods already feeling more policed and surveilled than some other communities could deployment of National Guard in the city, even if they are just in downtown or the loop area.

Could that roll back any of the progress?

>> And the trust that has been built and I think that's the other problem is the insinuation that that creates light having the National Guard in our communities.

>> It is not a welcoming failing grade people that it is going to have an impact in the economy.

People are not going to want to be outside and that is dangerous.

Well, as Representative Martin, know for a decade, I can tell you they want to feel safe.

They want constitutional policing.

>> And this gaslighting approach that my colleague keeps going, that we're going to federalize police and takes a neighborhood.

say that is not what I talk to not talk the National Guard.

Okay.

So I'm gonna jump in again don't know what you're talking about.

so what's going respect.

So I do want to get to it so you still have to fund the I don't want harm of that safety from one of the things that we have a history of our country being fearful of a standing army of using an army for ordinary law enforcement.

And I think we need to honor tradition and look at what's happened in other authoritarian countries around talk.

A lot of having the National Guard is a police force.

We're saying using them that's what matters to saying can't do it for here is to have them here in our city to will head toward president.

grateful he will immediately clear obviously and there's difference.

There is a difference in the authority that these 2 agencies that we're talking about have, of course, the National Guard, DHS and their ice agents.

And they've been in the conversation at the same time over the course of this week.

Clarify for us what they are legally allowed to do in the city and what they're actually allowed to enforce in city of Chicago.

Ice obviously enforces immigration laws and their power to do And as the mayor said, we don't have to facilitate their actions, but we can't hinder their actions in terms of >> law enforcement.

What the National Guard does will be more speculative, but they would serve to protect ice.

So ice is being attacked if they're being frustrated, then the military or the National Guard would have a role in trying to remove those obstacles.

There is no warrant for general law enforcement purposes.

So to the extent that we all would like to have better law enforcement and we'd like to have the money that's been using the National Guard to put into services that would lower crime as well.

>> But that's not what the National Guard are supposed to do under with Congress and said they could only protect federal missions in that sense.

>> The president is seemingly you know, broadening the role of the military domestic situations.

Is that concerning to you come the midterms?

It is very concerning.

If we get in your to the fact that we have National Guard in the essentials and DC and Chicago.

>> What's going to prevent the station of the National Guard is sensitive polling places to try generate different outcomes in the midterms.

That is my chief.

You're right now learning about being desensitized to the National Guard where we've already been desensitized to the violence and the only thing disrespectful about this entire conversation is that we're forgetting.

>> The victims across all the city of Chicago.

And if we could do anything that prevents one more victim and that is definitely something we should look into on Rodriguez, we've got 30 seconds left >> I believe that we know exactly what works that we need to continue to fund the initiatives that work with those 134 million dollars.

We could find this so many services for the community.

Violence interruption, expression of mental health care.

And those are the things that we need to be looking into.

A campus will have to leave it.

I'm sure there's lots more to discuss in the coming days and weeks.

Alderman Ray Lopez Alderwoman resign.

Rodriguez Sanchez and professor print.

>> Thank you so much for joining Thank you.

Thank you.

Organizers behind the two-day Music Grito Chicago are postponing this year's event.

>> The festival was scheduled to happen.

September 13th and 14th in Grant Park.

But organizers say after communication with local officials about this potential ICE activity, they're delaying the event, community leaders and residents across Chicago's communities have been gearing up for federal immigration agents who local officials, as we've said, believe will be targeting cultural events happening in the next month.

Our Joanna Hernandez joins us now from Little Village with an update.

Joanna has this had an impact on the Mexican independence?

Great.

>> Brian does.

As far as we know, parade organizers say that it is still on in this parade has been happening here in the heart of Little Village for nearly 54 years.

And local officials are saying ice is planning to conduct ice raids during parades like this one scheduled for this month.

And with residents still on edge, local community members are coming together to fight back.

>> The point is to try to instill fear.

I will say that want I think he targets us in a way because we're also very strong and our This isn't the first time said Trump is starting to Chicago.

>> Given what all this is one of the lead organizers behind for local Rapid Response group in Pilsen made up of volunteers.

They worked to protect their community by responding to calls of federal agents sightings.

They're part of a larger network of groups mobilizing around their neighborhoods to inform people of their rights.

He says their mission is to educate and empower people rather than instill fear.

Well, you collaborate with groups like the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights and Organize Communities against Deportations.

They have developed a series of training sessions and resources for individuals to access.

This includes a hotline where people can report I stick to Vitti, seek support in locating some of ICE custody, conduct connect them with an immigration attorney as well as health care resources.

>> The train people who want to support in other ways doing what we call me to watch.

And you can kind of think that is of like what we in the moment.

If there and abduction or some kind of enforcement activity.

What are best practices to say?

Identify if what you're seeing is actually ice or not.

>> The way that all that works together to support.

Families that are directly affected, collecting evidence for people's cases, but also evidence for legal action.

>> Chicago has a large Latino population with Mexicans representing 70% of this community.

Little village, community members are passing out whistles as part of an initiative called blow the whistle on ICE to alert people.

If they see I sightings in the area.

>> We have heard that.

And then they they turned off the cell phone towers and there was no way to communicate.

So if they hear to on, you don't have papers get away.

>> But that in the league as president of the Little Village Community Console, says their organization has assisted about dozens of families in completing legal documents.

These include letter, letters up, however, attorney for children in case their parents are detained in documents that attorneys can use to locate individuals taken by ICE.

He says her team is assisting over 30 families who have visited the center for clothing since many have stopped working due to the fear of deportation.

Meanwhile, community leaders are encouraging everyone who is feeling isolated or overwhelmed by what's happening to get active.

>> What's good for mental health is getting involved like showing up just something some was going to training learning about some of the staff, even going to a protest, whatever ways that people can contribute.

And it's not just the right thing to do.

It's not just strategic Lee.

What's going to be important for us to protect our communities.

It's also good.

>> And brand is these are the type of Richards that organizers are passing out to the neighborhood basically showing and identifying year and letting people know about their rights and other resources.

They confide in case they just get taken by Searcy someone else taking buys reporting live from Little Village on join Hernandez.

Send it back to you.

Joanna, thank you.

>> And we're back with more right after this.

Historians and researchers are sounding the alarm about President Trump's latest plans to scrutinize museums.

Trump recently expanded his criticism of the Smithsonian National Museum of African-American History and Culture to include 8 additional museums but specialists in the field say these actions could potentially erode the public's trust in shared institutions.

Not just in Washington, but around the country.

Joining us now, our Moreno, visual arts director and chief curator at the National Museum of Mexican Art and Leslie Harris, professor of History and African American Studies at Northwestern University.

Thanks to both for joining us.

so the Trump administration planning to audit 8 more Smithsonian museums as we mentioned to purge them of information that he finds negative or sad.

What concerns you about that.

oh, man, that is such a scary move.

>> You know, as we plan for the future, as we map things out for the direction that we're supposed to go in, all information is important, whether it's good, whether it's bad weather, it's ugly, no matter what it is without that information at your at your disposal.

I think what you're and which will end up with is a poor plan.

It's important to to really look at things critically understand and embrace them and learn without without mistakes without dark periods to learn from.

I think we could have the truth.

I think we get sort of false sense of our understanding of where we should go.

Have we seen this before in the government tries to control the history on display in museums?

The yes, without a doubt, you know, various countries, a Soviet union and actually back in the old the Egyptians and Greeks and Romans also did this.

But but more recently, I guess the 20th century USSR, South Korea, North Korea, definitely the United States.

We've had propaganda, which is basically a one simplified view that pushes and ideology.

in the end really does not rely on the society to create the culture to bring up the culture, but rather uses the arts even in Mexico.

The muralist movement in Mexico was nation building and successful propaganda in a post on truth.

Social last month for the president said, quote.

>> The museums throughout Washington, but all over the country are essentially the last remaining segment of woke.

The Smithsonian is out of control where everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how bad slavery was and how an accomplished the downtrodden had been.

It goes on to say nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future.

The country cannot be woke because woke is broke.

We have the hottest country in the world and we want people to talk about it, including in our museums.

That is a direct quote from the President.

Leslie, what do you make of President sentiments and Smithsonian museums?

>> And ignore the casual invocation of woke and then we have a hot nation as if he's talking about someone who wants to date of the bar.

>> But I want to quote, actually, Lonnie Bunch, the incredible director.

>> And the first leader the founder really of the National Museum.

He met with a 90 year-old sharecropper amending Prince Egypt Jenkins in South Carolina.

And he told him he was building this museum and Mr. Jenkins lived on as a sharecropper on the same farm plantation that his enslaved grandmother lives.

And what Mister Jenkins said that Lonnie Dr Bunch the heart is when you tell a history and build a museum, you have to tell people what they want to know and what they need to now.

And the history of slavery of the violence of the racialized violence in this nation inequality ideals stated but not reached and then ultimately overcome and reach.

That is the history that is in the National Museum of African-American History.

And that is the history that is most of the museums around our country.

History is in the past.

We are telling the stories of the past that we have somehow managed to live through and those histories include enslavement.

>> Lynching Jim Crow, segregation kinds of things.

But we are here today in the present and without knowing what we did wrong in the past.

As my colleague just we stand to make the same statement, do need >> Sorry, want to wear got a couple more questions and we're almost out of time, sir.

has the National Museum of Mexican art?

Have you all been impacted by the cuts that this administration is made, for example, to the National Endowment of Arts and or have you made any adjustments to your ration your exhibits as a result of this cure ration, no cure ation.

We continue to tell our story we're using were first wants institution and it's important that we tell our story and our nobody can tell your story as well as you can.

So that has not changed.

Definitely.

We've adapted with the loss of a few grants.

Nothing the really would keep the doors open or close their more project based.

And so what we're doing is we're we're waiting.

We're putting on the back burner.

>> Also other.

>> Institutions are stepping up to assist us, whether Illinois, the state of Illinois or Chicago Department, cultural fares or so many of the foundations that are in Chicago that really believe in the work that we do.

So it's it's we've just slow down a bit.

>> Just slow down of an okay.

I'm Leslie.

As we mentioned, the president has instructed attorneys to go through the museums and start the same process that he says he had such success with that colleges and universities.

Do these museums have a responsibility?

They have an ability to push back against the guidelines that might not tell the full the full story that they're trying to tell.

>> I'm confident that those who are in charge of the museums of the Smithsonian will push back appropriately in the best way that they can.

They are more closely connected to the government, museums around the country.

And so I'm going just support them in the struggle to stand up to this authoritarian move in terms of museums around the country.

However, they have more latitude and I'm convinced that many of these museums have worked decades to change their interpretations to align with.

Hopefully some of them won't.

Yeah, I apologize.

Hopefully they won't have the same struggles and the that some of the museums that are closer to the president in Washington We'll have to leave it there.

Unfortunately, Marino, Leslie Harris, thank both.

Thank you.

>> And that is our show for this Thursday night.

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>> Now for all of us here at Chicago Brandis Friedman, thank you for watching.

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