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New insight into how Chicagoans could react if National Guard troops are deployed here. And what federal changes to vaccine guidelines could mean for your health.
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Sept. 9, 2025 - Full Show
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New insight into how Chicagoans could react if National Guard troops are deployed here. And what federal changes to vaccine guidelines could mean for your health.
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I'm Brandis Friedman.
Here's what we're looking at.
>> We could Chicago very quickly, but we're gonna make a decision as to where we go over the next day >> Ramped up vice presidents and the possibility of National Guard coming.
How Chicagoans Curry, active troops are sent here.
>> Most Americans, the expects to everyone wants that.
>> And federal changes to vaccine guidelines are causing confusion across the country.
We talk with local public health leaders about what you should know.
First off Tonight, Day 2 of Homeland Security's Operation Midway Blitz is underway in Chicago.
>> Governor JB Pritzker today updating reporters on the latest.
>> Here's what we do know.
Ice is somewhere on the ground here.
They already have been effectuate in their plans.
We have not seen the bulk of those ice agents yet in communities, but we have seen some and we know that they are gathering steam and they have the vehicles.
We know they have about 100 vehicles that they are planning to utilize.
We know that they're planning more than 200 agents on the ground from Pritzker met with leaders from the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights to discuss the federal deployments and protecting constitutional rights.
>> We'll have more on the administrations efforts in just a few minutes.
Darren Bailey is taking another crack at becoming the next governor of Illinois.
As first reported by NBC, Chicago, the former state senator is planning on announcing a second campaign for Governor Bailey lost a governor JB Pritzker by 13 points back in 2022, despite getting financial backing from Republican billionaire Uline.
He's expected to name former Cook County Republican Party Chair Erin Delmar as his running mate.
Tulsans El Grito celebration will be taking place.
It comes in reaction to Grant Park so grito festival being postponed by organizers last week organizers of the Mexican Independence Day event in pills and say they're pushing ahead with their celebration.
Despite the Trump administration's ramped up immigration enforcement.
>> We will celebrate our traditions.
Just I would use his last weekend with no incident.
I'm proud to be an immigrant.
I'm proud to be a father fighting for community on encouraged everybody in our city, especially those who privilege.
I'm a supporter, Mexican community to come and celebrate with us on to fight for the world that we want get stronger.
It.
>> Grito event is on Monday at Saint Paul Catholic Church.
The 3 major Chicago Chicagoland Food Banks are warning the region is on the cusp of another hunger crisis.
A new report today from the greater Chicago Food Depository, Northern Illinois Food Bank and the Food Bank of Northwest Indiana says one in 4 people are facing food insecurity and more than a 3rd of households.
That's 1.4 million households cannot afford the basic cost of living in their county.
The report also shows grocery prices have increased 20% between June 2020 and June 2025. and 48% more households are visiting local food pantries and free grocery programs compared to fiscal year 2020.
Up next, the Trump administration threatened Chicago with military deployment, but will that curb crime?
That's right.
After this.
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>> The Department of Homeland Security's launch of Operation Midway Blitz this week is expected to ramp up the deployment of ICE agents to the city.
The Trump administration says the operation is designed to target, quote, criminal illegal aliens who they say have flocked to Chicago because of its sanctuary city status.
>> Chicago is a very dangerous place and we have a governor that doesn't care about crime.
My guest.
We could Chicago very quickly.
When you look at what happened DC in short period of time, honestly, it's amazing over a period 12 Otherwise on the 12th Day, we had the crime.
about jobs.
>> But others worry that innocent immigrants and even citizens could be caught up in the immigration operation.
Joining us now with more is Professor Robert Pape, political science professor at the University of Chicago, terrorism Specialist and the founding director of the Chicago Project on Security and threats.
Thanks for being here again.
Professor Pape, of course.
we should clarify, you know, the president is talking about crime and violence, but he's also talking about immigration.
And these are these are 2 different things except in the instances when immigration and crime and violence collide can come back to that later.
How is what's happening or what is expected to happen here in Chicago?
Different from what we've already seen in LA and DC.
Well, let's first start with this.
President Trump and the Trump administration is sending Chicago in much of the country.
>> Down a dark road.
I've lived in Chicago for 25 years.
I have never met anyone in Chicago who likes the crime.
I've never met this defender of crime.
However, people in Chicago and we know this from our surveys of Chicago.
People in Chicago do not like the idea of a military occupation and they don't like the idea of a police state even more.
I have been studying political violence for 30 years and my specialty within that area is military occupations by democracies.
Think British troops going to Northern Ireland August 1916, I think American going to Baghdad to suppress terrorism in 2003.
These military occupations by democracies often start out with a very legitimate purpose.
And however, over time that purpose tends to lead to constraining political liberties and leading to more violence, then they actually started with.
So you mentioned your research that you've done for a very long time.
You took a survey of 1100 Chicagoans over the summer June July of this year.
And you found that 60% of Chicagoans survey did not approve of the way President Trump.
>> Is handling immigration enforcement, especially deportation.
28% said that they would protest even if violence.
30% agreed that immigrants targeted by Trump are justified in using force to defend themselves.
And 37% agreed that the use of force is justified to remove Donald Trump from the presidency.
Was this surprising to you and what does that say about what to expect of the reactions of Chicagoans if National Guard is on the streets of Chicago's the player reason we did.
This survey was because of LA.
>> And seeing Elway and seeing the rhetoric around are ready in L a when Christie Noem said that the goal here was to reverberate other cities, not just Elway from the failed Democratic leadership that made it clear that we had to worry about Chicago.
So that's why we did the survey.
And this is hard data.
This isn't just a random phone dialing.
This is not 3 people on the street of an interview.
This is with Newark.
That's one of the most respected polling agencies on the planet Representative survey of the City of Chicago of its 2.7 million residents.
So with those numbers you read, this is hard information and notice.
This not the picture of the city that is asking for military should be opposite.
How concerned should we be that violence could erupt between?
>> Protesters, demonstrators and National Guard National Guard people.
There are numerous flash points.
This isn't just a case where there's flash points related to the protesters.
That's absolutely true.
The big picture, though, is that in the early stages of these military deployments by democracies and cities for de-escalating the violence a lot of times there's a honeymoon period.
>> So it may come as a surprise with the British going in August 1969.
Their goal was to de-escalate violence in Northern Ireland 4 months later.
However, that's when the provisional I R a was formed to use violence to kick those British troops out.
Basically what we see is this early stage of a honeymoon period can be deceptive.
You can think, oh, it's going well.
Let's expand the mission.
Well, what's the mission in Chicago?
We have a couple of missions identified by President Trump and DHS.
Number deportation of illegal immigrants, undocumented immigrants from the city of Chicago at 150,000 people.
And you're right that that could take a very long time.
Could months.
Many thousands of troops.
We're not even seeing yet the beginning of these operation Jet.
But if you were seriously talk about deporting 150,008% of the city, this would probably take a year.
This would probably involve 10's of thousands of troops and to be clear, troops cannot deport people, but they can support ICE agents in their efforts.
That's exactly right.
It would be a cut would a combined set of operations where you would be focusing on grocery stores.
You would be focusing on schools and you would be doing this in many different parts of the city.
You would focus on some areas over others.
But just today we have a nice helicopter circling up near Evanston and the residents of means 10 are suddenly very, very nervous.
And the reason is because there may well undocumented immigrants Evanston.
And so what you are seeing is the possibility even before these operations have begun to produce.
Fear is already there.
We're talking about major missions and I didn't even mention the crime.
nice to live in Oak Park.
I know about Austin very, very well.
So if you're going to go into Austin to actually permanently reduce crime, you're going need to disarm gangs, disarm people.
And this is going take a lot of time and be very dangerous.
And that is, of course, you know, if if the National Guard can be impactful in reducing that kind of community crime, that so many.
>> Chicagoans experience.
But here's governor Presser Pritzker again from earlier today talking about the deployment of ICE agents in particular earlier.
>> They have terrible plans for the communities of Illinois were frankly standing up and speaking out and ready to take them to court and do everything that we can to protect the people who live here from what Donald Trump is trying to do, which is to disrupt the country.
Not because he's going after criminals, but because she has a nefarious plan, frankly, to bring military into cities so that ultimately in the 2026 election people be normalized to the idea militarization during the next election so that he could affect the outcome of that election.
>> really about fighting crime of something else.
Well, we just saw the courts yesterday with the Supreme Court make a very important ruling here in favor of helping Trump with deportations.
And that ruling was really quite stunning because the ruling 6 to 3 and the Supreme Court is that ICE agents are now to essentially racial profile.
So it is now the case that if you have the wrong skin color, if you have the wrong accident, if you work in the wrong place with no other information whatsoever.
You can be legally detained.
So says the Supreme Court of the United States, which all the federal courts, all the state courts, are now going to have to abide by.
This opens the door.
So we talked about 150,000 undocumented immigrants in the city of Chicago.
However, there are 80900,000 Hispanic people who live in the city of Chicago.
So what the Supreme Court has just said is all 800,000 now can be subject to being detained heightens that fear which is going, which is part of the problem.
I'm pointing out the missions here is long as the missions.
They very, very small.
If we are very small numbers, were then then this will not be even hardly notice by the city in in a few months.
However, if anything close to what the missions are that President Trump is talking about start even just 25 quarter of this.
All right here, this will seriously impact the city.
So this is what we have to be aware of.
Witches just because we don't have violence breaking out tomorrow.
You know, we're an impatient attorney not coming there.
It right that we very impatient.
We things to happen.
Tomorrow said have to be alert and then kind of stay alert and also month and where our Wieters need to know their calls, which have been terrific.
>> Or no violence here that needs to happen.
Everyday violence or not.
next to my all right.
We'll be listening to them in the next 2 months.
At if this continues for now, we're done with a professor Robert Pape University of Chicago.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for ever.
>> Up next, what local public health officials are saying about changing vaccine guidance.
You might have already noticed the COVID-19 vaccine is tougher to get this year.
That's because the Food and Drug Administration tighten guidelines for who's eligible.
The agency now says those who qualify to receive the updated shot must be 65 years or older or anyone with an underlying health condition.
But medical organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics and even some states.
Our breaking from federal guidelines.
Joining us now, our Doctor, Samir Vohra director of the Illinois Department of Public Health Dr, Kiran, Joshi the chief operating officer for the Cook County Department of Public Health and Dr. Sam Bowie, the commissioner for the Chicago Department of Public Health.
Thanks to all 3 of you for joining us.
Dr for I want to come to you first, please.
Could you explain how these changes to the COVID-19 federal guidelines?
What are they and how they're different from previous years?
>> Well, in previous there was by the FDA, the approval to provide a universal recommendation for the COVID-19 vaccine.
And by that, I mean that everybody was recommended for everybody 6 months and older to receive a shot and then followed by the FDA approval of the advisory committee on Immunization practices from the CDC recommended that 6 months and older to get that COVID-19 shot.
Now the limited FDA approval that you just mentioned now changes that to say that for adults, those hard individuals 65 and older, they are approved by the FDA to get shot and then for those that are 6 months to 64 years, you need a particular risk factor limiting the pool of approval from our Federal Drug Administration around.
What are the practices around COVID-19 vaccines?
>> And what's your reaction to this change?
>> I think part of it is that it's not just this move by the Food and Drug Administration in isolation.
It's a series of moves that have happened.
By Federal Health and Human Services.
Secretary Kennedy that have brought great uncertainty and have question the trust of a process that was universally trusted by local health departments and health care providers by removing members of the advisory Committee on immunization practices by seeding doubts about the effectiveness of vaccines.
We know that vaccines save lives.
It's another place where it is very hard to have that faith that our federal government is using credible, transparent evidence, informed and science-based practices to make decisions on what is in the best interest of residents throughout the country.
>> Dre, we know that some pharmacies have already begun giving the latest COVID-19 vaccine.
But what have you been hearing from the community about whether they're finding difficulty in getting the latest vaccine?
>> Yes, in Chicago, we've heard that some people are being turned away from promises who once the vaccines because the pharmacies a hesitant to prescribe what we see now ease off label.
If you don't fall into the category that has been identified by the FDA and this is the challenge that we have.
We want everyone to be able to get this vaccine once it.
Now, if the FDA says vaccine already approved for 65 plus, or if you have a condition, then means that Thomas's bill no longer have the freedom to prescribe this will people, even they want.
And this is a China.
And as health care providers has public health professionals, he's in life-saving intervention, evasive, preventative intervention that's available.
We want that to be available for everyone who needs it and wants it.
>> Dr Joshi.
What what do you say to those who are confused and frustrated?
They want to get the COVID-19 vaccine this fall, but they're hearing all of conflicting information.
>> I would that first and foremost, all 3 of our agencies are working closely together to ensure that there's clear information, trusted information and access to vaccines to all who may benefit.
We all believe that science science should drive public health our message here is very simple.
Vaccines are safe.
They're effective and they're the best tool we have to prevent severe illness and hospitalization for COVID specifically getting the vaccine, even though the pandemic has waned and over, getting the vaccine is far safer than getting the virus.
And most people putting aside the FDA guidelines, most people will benefit from staying up to date, particularly those at highest risk.
And that includes older adults, people with chronic conditions and those with weaker immune systems.
>> That said, how does one get it?
Where do you recommend they look?
>> So I think it's important to talk to a healthcare professional that could be your physician of pharmacist or your local health department about staying up to date again, if you're at higher risk in particular, don't delay.
We are doing our part to ensure that anyone who wants to get access is going to have access were planning a number of free.
Vaccination clinics over the next 3 to 4 months up the 5, Cook County health community clinics in suburban Cook County.
>> Ok, good to Doctor Vohra is the state planning on creating its own policies as some have had to do in order to broaden access to the COVID-19 vaccine.
>> Yeah.
>> the state has immunization advisory committee and >> over the last few months, we have been working to boost through that committee with the states.
>> Leading expert Happ of or local public health leaders.
Pediatrics, OBGYN and immunology to really understand him better address Illinois data and then determine what are the best recommendations for our residents.
you're planning to have a meeting of this group at end of September to make recommendations to the state on the guidance that is those things that we're missing right now.
The federal government credible, transparent evidence informed is Dr. Joshi scientifically based to ensure we are looking at those recommendations talking to other states, medical societies really making sure that we're doing a thorough process to ensure that IDPH in partnership with our local health departments like Cook County and the City of Chicago really aligning around the best evidence and ensuring that science leads the way to allow people to get vaccine that will help them during this fall respiratory season.
>> And Dr Ige.
We know the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a sip.
They're going to be meeting.
I think next week late next week to finalize their COVID-19 recommendations.
How do you feel about trusting those recommendations given that the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Junior has appointed many new committed story.
Many new committee members who have a history of anti-vaccine views.
>> Yes, the looming decision in public health is to So if there's anyone on the seat that is not demonstrating all the the data that is guiding their decision-making, then that needs all We cannot follow blind the recommendations that have no, sir, I and II think basis.
Hold back.
So the way public health decisions and need they on this and they as of approval, the at many phases of clinical trials before vaccines are approved and then they is advisory committee with including many people with, you know, professional qualifications, but they still have to present the data.
If you want to the AC proceedings, it is data driven.
So now that is being replaced.
We've come, Jack, John and, you know, other non proven decision-making pathways.
Then we have to do what we think it's best with the data that we have You know, I to make decisions that are based.
>> Do feel like you'll be eyeing the meeting a little bit more closely differently this year than maybe you have in previous years.
>> Certainly certainly we all are, you know, glued to every word and every process >> okay.
Doctor Vohra want to pivot to federal funding before we're out of time.
What is the latest that you can share sort of about where Illinois stands since the Trump administration has slashed so much funding for state and local public health agencies this year.
>> We know that it continues to a huge concern and something that we're monitoring very closely.
I think we have been fortunate as through the litigation led by our Attorney general.
But there has continued to be sort of an injunction that allows us to spend much needed public health funds.
But it's a constant thing that we are monitoring closely.
We know the effects that are coming around Medicaid and human services based on house resolution.
One being passed.
And so it's another place that we're trying to align very closely with our local public health leaders to figure out how to be effective.
It is efficient in delivering our public health services throughout the state.
>> And that's where we'll have to leave it.
Thanks to the 3 of you.
Best of luck, doctors, some Arab or here in Joshi.
And somebody's got thank you.
And that is our show for this Tuesday night.
You can stream Chicago tonight on our W T Tw YouTube Channel every evening and catch up on any programs you may have missed and join us tomorrow night at 5, 30 10 now for all of us here at Chicago Brandis Friedman, thank you for watching.
Stay healthy and safe and have a good night.
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