>> I'M MARC ROTTERMAN, AND THIS IS FRONT ROW.

COMING UP THE PANEL REFLECTS ON THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF 9.11.

GOVERNOR COOPER VETOES THE DONOR PRIVACY LAW, AND PRESIDENT BIDEN PIVOTS TO THE ECONOMY NEXT.

♪ A COMPLETE LIST OF FUNDERS CAN BE FOUND AT: ♪ >> WELCOME BACK.

JOINING THE CONVERSATION, DONNA KING EDITOR AND CHIEF FOR CAROLINA JOURNAL.

MORGAN JACKSON CHIEF POLITICAL STRATEGIST FOR GOVERNOR COOPER.

JONAH KAPLAN WITH ABC NEWS 11, AND NELSON DOLLAR SENIOR ADVISER NORTH CAROLINA SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

JONAH WHY DON'T WE BEGIN WITH YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9.11 THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY.

>> WELL, IT'S A DAY IN INFAMY FOR A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS, AND I NEVER LIVED THROUGH VIETNAM.

I CERTAINLY WASN'T THERE FOR WORLD WAR 2.

BUT WHAT I REMEMBER IS THE UNITY OF AMERICA AND I REMEMBER THE PATRIOTISM, I REMEMBER THE THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE AND JUST THE PASSION OF CONGRESS WHEN THEY MET ON SEPTEMBER 20TH WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH SPOKE, AND HE SAYS NORMALLY IN THE COURSE OF EVENTS THE PRESIDENT COMES HERE TO REPORT ON THE STATE OF THE UNION AND HE SAYS TONIGHT NO SUCH STATEMENT IS NEEDED THE STATE OF OUR UNION IS STRONG.

AND THAT REVERBERATED.

AND WHAT I WONDER IS IF, GOD FORBID, THERE'S ANOTHER 9.11 ATTACK, IS THE COUNTRY CAPABLE OF COMING TOGETHER AGAIN LIKE THAT OR WOULD WE IMMEDIATELY START BLAMING THE OTHER SIDE?

"WELL YOU DID THIS," "THE U.S. PRESIDENT DID THAT."

"HOW COULD IT HAVE HAPPENED?"

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT AN IMMEDIACY AFTER 9.11 AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF REASONS TO BLAME THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS THAT WENT WRONG IN THE INTELLIGENCE, THE FBI THE CIA.

BUT THAT CAME LATER IN THE 9.11 COMMISSION.

AT FIRST AFTER 9.11 IT WAS UNITY, IT WAS GRIEF.

I MEAN WE'RE STILL IN A PANDEMIC WHERE 600,000 AMERICANS LOST THEIR LIVES, AND AMERICANS CAN'T REALLY COME TOGETHER.

SO I HOPE I'M WRONG.

BUT THAT'S MY FEAR IS THAT IF GOD FORBID ANOTHER ATTACK COMES LIKE THIS HOW DO WE RESPOND AS A NATION?

>> DONNA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION AND IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE TODAY ON THIS 20TH ANNIVERSARY THE TALIBAN WILL BE CELEBRATING FROM A BLACK HAWK HELICOPTER BECAUSE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION LEFT THEM AN AIR FORCE.

YOU KNOW PRESIDENT BUSH SAID THEN 20 YEARS AGO, YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU'RE WITH THE TERRORISTS.

AND TODAY WE LEFT AMERICANS, WE LEFT AFGHAN ALLIES, LEFT SERVICE DOGS, WE HAVE LEFT AN ENTIRE AIR FORCE TO THE TALIBAN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY REMEMBER.

THIS IS NOW THE LEGACY OF 9.11 PART OF IT IS ALSO THE LEGACY OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

>> A LOT OF INSPIRING STORIES THAT DAY, THOUGH MORGAN.

>> THERE WERE.

FIRST RESPONDERS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN NEW YORK, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN NEW YORK GAVE US ALL SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

>> [MARC] AND HEROES ON THOSE PLANES.

>> HEROES ON THOSE PLANES, ESPECIALLY THE ONE HEADED TO PENNSYLVANIA AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S BEEN GLUED TO THE TELEVISION WATCHING A LOT OF THE REMEMBRANCES AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STATIONS THAT ARE DOING REMEMBRANCES.

WATCHING PEOPLE THE VIDEO FROM TIME OF RUNNING TOWARDS THE TOWERS.

NOT JUST I MEAN OBVIOUSLY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS BUT FOLKS RUNNING TOWARDS THE TOWERS TO HELP AND JONAH, YOU KNOW, YOU STRUCK A CHORD, WHEN YOU SAID IT BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT THAT AND I THINK IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, WE HAVEN'T HAD A -- 20 YEARS, NOT AN ATTACK BUT A COALESCING THINK ABOUT - YOU HAD GEORGE BUSH SENIOR AND BILL CLINTON IMMEDIATELY COME TOGETHER TO RAISE MONEY FOR 9-11 YOU HAD ALL THE HOLLYWOOD STARS RIGHT AND LEFT GET TOGETHER MUSICIANS IMMEDIATELY DO A CONCERT FOR AMERICA YOU HAD EVERYBODY HAND IN HAND, I REMEMBER THE TOM DASCHLE, BIG HUG OF GEORGE BUSH ON THE FLOOR AND KISSED HIM ON THE CHEEK.

AND THAT SHOWED THAT WE WERE IN THIS TOGETHER AND I DO WORRY ABOUT WHERE WE ARE BUT THE LAST QUICK POINT I'LL MAKE MARC ALSO THINK BACK TO THAT TIME WHAT IF WE HAD KNOWN THEN THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE IN IRAQ FOR 8 YEARS, AND AFGHANISTAN FOR 20 YEARS, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?

>> DID WE TAKE OUR EYE OFF THE BALL NELSON WHEN WE WENT INTO IRAQ WHEN GEORGE W WENT INTO IRAQ?

>> WELL WE DID.

SO 9.11 ACTUALLY CAPPED A DECADE OF ATTACKS AND INTELLIGENCE FAILURES BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FAILING TO PUT TOGETHER PIECES FAILING TO LISTEN TO AGENTS LIKE JOHN O'NEILL WHO LOST HIS LIFE AT THE TWIN TOWERS.

SO WE GO TO AFGHANISTAN FOR REVENGE WE FAILED TO GET BIN LADEN AT TORA BORA AND WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED THAT MISSION INTO NATION BUILDING AND SWITCH OVER AND GO TO WAR IN IRAQ SO 5 PRESIDENTS 30 YEARS OF REALLY FAILED POLICY THAT RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF TOO MANY LIVES BOTH HERE IN AMERICA AS WELL AS SERVICE PERSONNEL OVERSEAS AND HERE'S ONE OF THE KICKERS MARC.

THIS FALL, THE 20 YEARS AFTER 9.11.

THE MASTERMIND OF THE ATTACKS KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD IS ONLY NOW FINALLY COMING TO COURT -- >> [MARC] STILL HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

OK I WANT TO COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S WEEK.

>> YES SIR.

MARC THIS WEEK, GOVERNOR COOPER VETOED A BILL SENATE BILL 6.36 AND THAT IS A LAW DESIGNED TO PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PRIVATE RIGHTS OF CHARITABLE DONORS FROM HAVING THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION DISCLOSED TO AGENCIES AND OFFICIALS STATE AND FEDERAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND TAX WOULD STILL BE IN EFFECT.

BUT WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IF YOU'RE CHARITABLE DONOR, YOUR PRIVATE INFORMATION IS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES OR TO OUT YOU.

THIS VETO WAS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES INVOLVE PROTECTING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND ASSOCIATION.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THIS THIS PAST SUMMER RECENTLY OVERTURNED A CALIFORNIA LAW WHO ACTUALLY SOUGHT TO DISCLOSE NONPROFIT DONORS TO CONSERVATIVE GROUPS, BUT ALSO GROUPS LIKE THE ACLU THE NAACP AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN ALSO OPPOSE THAT CALIFORNIA LAW THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED THAT AND IT REALLY GOES BACK TO A LANDMARK DECISION IN NAACP FOR VERSUS ALABAMA THAT INVOLVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND EVEN TODAY, WE'RE STILL WORRIED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE PROTECT CHARITABLE DONORS FROM HARASSMENT DISCRIMINATION.

>> MORGAN, YOU HAVE FLOOR YOU'VE GOT TO WEIGH IN HERE.

THE GOVERNOR VIEWS THIS AS A TRANSPARENCY ISSUE DOESN'T HE?

>> YES, I MEAN I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS VERY CLEAR WHAT WE NEED IS MORE TRANSPARENCY, NOT LESS TRANSPARENCY.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROTECTIONS FOR NONPROFITS AND THEIR DONORS AT THIS POINT.

THE GOVERNOR AT THE MINIMUM, THIS WAS A BILL THAT WAS UNNECESSARY AT THE MAXIMUM, IT SHIELDED A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE USING SORT OF BACKDOOR EFFORTS TO NONPROFITS TO FUND EITHER LOBBYING CAMPAIGNS -- >> [MARC] DARK MONEY.

>> DARK MONEY TO INFLUENCE PUBLIC POLICY OR TO TO DIVERT MONEY INTO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS.

AND I THINK AGAIN AT THE MINIMUM, IT'S UNNECESSARY THE MAXIMUM, IT PROVIDES DARK MONEY LESS SUNLIGHT AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY, NOT LESS.

>> JONAH WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING?

>> WELL THE CRIMINAL REFORM BILL, I KNOW IT WAS PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BUT THAT WAS JUST A BI-PARTISAN SHIP THAT CAME TOGETHER KIND OF BRING THIS TASK FORCE FOR RACIAL EQUITY AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS KIND OF CELEBRATED ENOUGH, I MEAN GOVERNOR COOPER BROUGHT TOGETHER MAYORS AND SHERIFFS AND BASICALLY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AND LEFT TO KIND OF GIVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM BILL, I MEAN IT REALLY DID FOR THE FIRST TIME BRING, WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, KIND OF THE FIRST TIME TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE, A TRACKING SYSTEM FOR BEHAVIORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF BIPARTISANSHIP AND MOMENTUM WE WANT TO SEE IN THE BUDGET WHETHER THAT HAPPENS IS YET TO BE SEEN.

>> DONNA?

>> SO ANOTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION AGAIN GOING TO TRANSPARENCY AND THE SUNLIGHT THE SENATE PASSED A BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE, GOVERNOR COOPER IN THIS CASE, TO CONSULT WITH THE ELECTED COUNCIL OF STATE IN ORDER FOR A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO GO PAST A WEEK.

OF COURSE WE'RE NOW INTO ALMOST 2 YEARS OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN NORTH CAROLINA AND THE GOVERNOR'S GOT SOME CRITICISM BECAUSE THE ELECTED COUNCIL STATE FEELS LIKE THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO REALLY WEIGH IN.

SO THIS BILL WOULD LIMIT, WOULD REQUIRE THAT WHOEVER IS IN THAT EXECUTIVE MANSION TO GO TO THE COUNCIL OF STATE AND GET APPROVAL TO REVEAL WHAT'S GOING ON WHY ARE WE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND CREATE A MORE TRANSPARENT COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

>> I WANT TO MOVE ON.

PRESIDENT BIDEN, MORGAN, MOVED TO THE ECONOMY THIS WEEK.

HE PIVOTED.

>> ABSOLUTELY SINCE SEPTEMBER GOING TO BE A BIG MONTH FOR THE ECONOMY.

FOR YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL MAJOR PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT ARE IN DISCUSSION POTENTIALLY MOVING.

FIRST OF ALL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT ON THE SHOW THE BIDEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT IS PASSED THE SENATE WE BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO PASS THE HOUSE THIS MONTH.

NANCY PELOSI SLATED TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS?

>> 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL INFUSE OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS INTO THE ECONOMY AND CREATE 2 MILLION JOBS A YEAR.

IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL AND HAS INCREDIBLE SUPPORT BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, OBVIOUSLY PASSED THE SENATE WITH -- MITCH MCCONNELL EVEN VOTED FOR IT >> [MARC] 18 REPUBLICANS >> 18 REPUBLICANS, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PASSED.

THE SECOND PIECE IS THE DOMESTIC SPENDING BILL.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DOMESTIC SPENDING BILL AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

IT IS INCENTIVES AND INVESTMENTS IN CHILDCARE, AND PAID FAMILY LEAVE IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE TUITION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE ULTIMATELY DESIGNED TO CREATE A MORE HIGHLY SKILLED WORKFORCE LONG TERM.

WE SEE HOW INVESTMENTS IN PRE K IN CHILD CARE REALLY IMPACT SOMEBODYS EDUCATION OVER THEIR CAREER >> [MARC] SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE >> SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S SORT OF A SOFT INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE PRICE TAG SHOULD BE.

BUT HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WORK OUT THE PRICE TAG BECAUSE THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS IMMENSELY POPULAR, NOT ONLY IS THE BODY OF STRUCTURE PLAN OVERWHELMINGLY POPULAR WITH A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SO IS THE DOMESTIC SPENDING PLAN, AND SO IT'S A MATTER OF LISTEN, IS IT GOING TO BE 3 AND A HALF IS IT GOING TO BE WHAT ONE AND A HALF TRILLION AS FAR AS THE SPENDING I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY - I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND A DEAL NO MATTER WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND A DEAL.

>> PELOSI'S INDICATED THAT SHE'D DEAL ON THIS AND MANCHIN WANTS A PAUSE ON THE 3.5 TRILLION NELSON, BUT DOES BIDEN REALLY HAVE THE MUSCLE TO PUT THIS THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL THAT'S A QUESTION AND I CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES AND THEY CAN DO IT OF COURSE I'M WITH MANCHIN.

I THINK YOU NEED TO SLOW THIS DOWN.

I MEAN THIS TURN FROM THE OPTIMISM OF LAST SPRING TO BIDEN'S WINTER OF DISCONTENT.

INFLATION IS ON THE RISE, ENERGY AND FOOD PRICES ARE UP AUTO PLANTS ARE ACTUALLY CLOSING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE A LACK OF CHIPS IF YOUR STORE, YOU CAN'T GET THE PRODUCTS IN AND YOU CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO HELP YOU SELL THEM.

SO WHEN YOUR TIME AND CREATING NEW JOBS.

WE HAVE SET A RECORD 10.9 MILLION JOBS THAT ARE UNFILLED OUT THERE IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A LABOR MARKET THAT IS IN COMPLETE TURMOIL AND ALL THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO DO IS PASS MORE TRILLIONS IN SPENDING, HIGHER TAXES, MORE ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS AND SENATOR MANCHIN IS RIGHT WASHINGTON NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN ON THE SPENDING, THE TAXES, THE DEBT, TAKE STOCK OF OUR SITUATION AND I THINK THAT BIDEN'S IN REAL DANGER OF LOSING PUBLIC TRUST IF THESE INDICATORS CONTINUE.

>> BIDEN NEEDS A WINDOW DOESN''T HE DONNA?

>> HE DOES I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL FIND IT HERE, I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.

ABOUT 60% OF AND I PULLED THIS WEEK, 60% OF AMERICANS SAID THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE A 3.5 TRILLION DOLLAR PACKAGE AND TO SAY THE PROGRAMS ARE IMMENSELY POPULAR THE IDEAS PROBABLY ARE NOT THE SPENDING AND WITH HIS HIS APPROVAL RATING IN THE 30'S.

I THINK THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE HORSE POWER TO GET THIS THROUGH.

>> JONAH PUT THIS IN CONTEXT.

>> PRESIDENTS ARE VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE IS IT REALLY PRESIDENT BIDEN'S FAULT THAT A TAIWANESE CHIP COMPANY WAS CLOSED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T PRODUCE AND BRING ENOUGH CARS TO THE MARKET?

I DON'T KNOW THAT'S UP TO THE VOTER TO DECIDE.

BUT I THINK THAT FOR WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN AFGHANISTAN, THE COUNTRY, I MEAN SUPPLY CHAIN MATTERS AND WHETHER THE PERCEPTION IS IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S FAULT.

>> [MARC] WILL THE DEFICITS MATTER ANYMORE?

WE'RE IN LIKE 28 TRILLION DOLLARS.

>> I THINK IT'S MATTERED IN 20 YEARS, I MEAN THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S GONE ON FOR A LONG TIME NOT SINCE RONALD REAGAN, I THINK HAS BEEN DEFICIT -- I MEAN IT'S ONLY USED WHEN THEY THINK IT COULD BE USED, BUT I JUST THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WORDS I JUST DON'T THINK RESONATES WITH VOTERS ANYMORE >> CLOSE THIS ABOUT 40 SECONDS MY FRIEND.

>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

I MEAN LISTEN, NO REPUBLICAN HAD A PROBLEM, WITH DEFICIT WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DEFICIT NOW >> [MARC] FOR DECADES THEY HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE DEFICIT.

>> NOBODY HAS.

LISTEN -- >> SOMETIMES THE BILL DOES COME DUE DOESN'T IT?

>> IT DOES, BUT IT HASN'T FOR 30 YEARS.

SO I THINK WE JUST KEEP ON DOING IT.

>> OK DONNA I WANT TO TALK TO YOU.

TEST SCORES ARE IN FOR NORTH CAROLINA STUDENTS, NOT GOOD.

>> IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD THE STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES FROM LAST YEAR WHICH, OF COURSE, AS YOU REMEMBER MOST YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WERE MOSTLY REMOTE LAST YEAR AND IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT LESS THAN HALF OF STUDENTS TESTED TO BE AT MEETING GRADE LEVEL PROFICIENCY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 3RD GRADE WHICH IS A CRITICAL YEAR, A LITTLE MORE THAN 25% ARE MEETING THE GRADE LEVEL PROFICIENCY.

IT'S ALARMING.

AND GOVERNOR COOPER SIGNED A BILL THIS WEEK THAT GAVE A WAIVER TO SCHOOLS FOR THE A THROUGH F PERFORMANCE RATING FOR THIS YEAR, BUT GUESS WHO DOESN'T GET THAT WAIVER FOR PERFORMANCE RATING STUDENTS SO THOSE KIDS WHO STRUGGLED THROUGH REMOTE SCHOOL FOR WHATEVER REASON WI-FI LEARNING DISABILITIES JUST DIDN'T DO WELL IN REMOTE, THOSE KIDS STILL HAVE THAT GRADE FROM LAST YEAR ON THEIR TRANSCRIPTS, 2 OR 3 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING TO COLLEGES AGAINST KIDS WHO ARE IN PERSON IN PRIVATE SCHOOL THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPETING AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HELP THEM FIND A PATH FORWARD.

WE DID WAIVERS, PASS-FAILS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC SO FAR IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT THIS YEAR.

PARENTS ARE TAKING NOTE, BECAUSE WE ALL FELT LIKE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WOULD MAKE THEM WHOLE AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT.

>> MORGAN OR THE KIDS BEING PENALIZED?

>> YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I THINK IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING FOR STUDENTS.

DONNA'S RIGHT IT'S EVERYTHING FROM THE LACK OF PERSONAL ENGAGEMENT AND INTERACTION WITH A TEACHER OVER ZOOM, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.

THE LACK OF RELIABLE INTERNET FOR A LOT OF STUDENTS OUT THERE, THE LACK OF RELIABLE FOOD EVERY DAY FOR FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS AND SO LISTEN, I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY'S COME TO REALIZE AND I THINK THESE SCORES REALLY MERIT IT OUT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING IN CLASS.

ONE OF THE KEY THINGS I KNOW EVERYBODY DOES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT MASK, BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF MASK AT SCHOOLS I WANT TO DO A CASE IN POINT UNION COUNTY RIGHT NOW, 15% OF THEIR ENTIRE POPULAR SCHOOL POPULATION IS UNDER QUARANTINE BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE MASK MANDATES.

WAKE COUNTY HAS 4 TIMES AS MANY STUDENTS AND ONE QUARTER OF THE STUDENTS IN QUARANTINE AND SO LISTEN, MY POINT TO FOLKS ABOUT THIS IS EVERYBODY AGREES ON THIS, WE GOT TO HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE WAY THEIR TEST SCORES GO UP THAT'S THE WAY THEY LEARN BEST.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE MASK TO PROTECT THEM.

IT IS CLEAR, LOOK AT THE DATA, MASKS WORK!

THE PLACES THAT AREN'T WEARING MASKS ARE UNDER MAJOR QUARANTINE.

UNION COUNTIY'S A REAL HOT SPOT AND A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.

>> YOUR TAKE ON THIS REPORT NELSON.

>> WELL IF YOU GO BACK, I MEAN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS ARE BEHIND FOR NO GOOD REASON AND IT'S GOING TAKE YEARS FOR THEM TO CATCH UP.

I PICK ON EUROPE A LOT BUT FINLAND, DENMARK, THEY GOT IT RIGHT.

THEY HAD THEY HAD THEIR SCHOOLS BACK OPEN IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, EUROPEAN SCHOOLS ON THE WHOLE WERE OPEN, THEY PUT THE KIDS IN THERE EVEN DURING THE SECOND WAVE OF THE PANDEMIC LAST FALL.

THEY CERTAINLY TOOK THE PRECAUTIONS LIKE CLEANING, MASK, SMALLER CLASS SIZES, EDUCATIONAL BUBBLES, THEIR CHILDREN DIDN'T SUFFER THE SAME LEVEL OF OF EDUCATIONAL LOSS OUR CHILDREN HAVE.

AS ONE FINNISH EXPERT PUT IT A CHILD'S EDUCATION RIGHT OUTWEIGHS THE HEALTH RISK AND THEY WERE PROVEN RIGHT ON THIS.

VERY FEW STUDENTS OR TEACHERS WERE EVER INFECTED AS A RESULT OF EUROPEAN SCHOOLS BEING OPEN.

>> KIND OF PROVES MORGAN'S POINT BECAUSE EUROPE WAS USING MASKS, THEY WERE DOING ALL THOSE PRECAUTIONS.

HERE ALL THE BICKERING KIND OF DELAYED ALL OF THAT.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ONUS AS WELL ON THE PARENTS AND WHEN YOU HAVE MANY FAMILIES WITH 2 WORKING PARENTS, THAT'S NOT A VERY STABLE HOME.

>> GREAT POINT.

>> SO I THINK YES THE SCHOOL'S IN-PERSON ALL THAT BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN WHO IF THEY'RE NOT WELL FED AT HOME, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE CONCENTRATING.

IF THEIR PARENTS ARE WORKING AND NOT HOME, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND IF THOSE NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS DON'T EXIST, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY'RE TEACHING IN SCHOOL.

>> WRAP THIS UP IN ABOUT 20 SECONDS DONNA.

>> I THINK IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT THIS IS REALLY ON THE PARENTS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE PARENTS I KNOW AT LEAST HERE IN WAKE COUNTY WE'RE REALLY ENGAGED.

THEY WERE TAKING TIME OFF WORK, THEY WERE HAVING TO SPEND THEIR WORKING HOURS LOOKING OVER THEIR KID SHOULDER AND HELPING THEM IT WASN'T DELIVERED WELL.

THAT'S THE REALITY.

EVERYBODY HAD TO PIVOT, EVERYBODY HAD TO CREATE AN ENTIRELY NEW SCHOOL SYSTEM IN 2 WEEKS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED TO DO, IT WASN'T DELIVERED WELL, AND NOW THEY HAVE TO HELP THESE KIDS NOT JUST WITH REMEDIAL EDUCATION, BUT HELP THEM BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE 18 MONTHS FROM GOING TO COLLEGE.

>> OK, LET'S GO TO THE MOST UNDERREPORTED STORY OF THE WEEK DONNA.

>> SO MY MOST UNDERREPORTED STORY OF THE WEEK.. KIND OF PASSIONATE.

[LAUGHTER] MY MOST UNDERREPORTED STORY WEEK ACTUALLY IS AFGHANISTAN, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT DROP OFF IN OUR COVERAGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SOME OF THAT IS BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS BEING CUT OFF, BUT THE TALIBAN INSTITUTED THEIR NEW GOVERNMENT.

WOMEN WHO WERE DEMONSTRATING AGAINST THAT IT WAS ALL MEN IN THERE WERE BEING WHIPPED IN THE STREETS.

YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT STILL GOING ON THERE AND IT FEELS A LOT LIKE THE MEDIA HAS ALREADY FORGOTTEN THEM.

>> WELL HAS THE PRESIDENT TURN THE PAGE ON THIS?

>> I THINK HE'S TRYING TO IF THERE'S BEEN A RENEWED FOCUS ON THE ECONOMY AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FOLLOWING HIS LEAD ON TRYING TO REDIRECT ATTENTION BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GET -- >> I HOPE WE DON'T FORGET THOSE 13 SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN THAT DIED.

MORGAN?

>> SO UNDERREPORTED THIS WEEK IS CORRECTION OFFICERS, WE'VE KNOWN FOR THIS HAS BEEN A GENERATIONAL ISSUE A CHALLENGE FOR FUNDING AND SALARY FOR CORRECT CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS THEY'RE VERY LOW PAY, VERY DANGEROUS WORK ENVIRONMENT, THEN YOU ADD COVID TO THAT, IN 2019 THE VACANCY RATE HAD DROPPED TO A MODERN DAY LOW OF ABOUT 15%.

THROUGHOUT COVID NOW IT'S 30% VACANCY IN STATE PRISONS.

THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM, I THINK THE GOVERNOR PUT OUT IN HIS BUDGET SOME REAL INCREASES AND SOME BONUSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS >> [MARC] HOW IS THAT BEING RECEIVED?

>> WELL THE HOUSE AND SENATE ALSO DID AND I THINK THERE'S BROAD AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS - WE TALK ABOUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT, ON CORRECTIONS OFFICERS THERE IS.

IT'S A CHALLENGE AND IT IS, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A ONE BUDGET OR TWO BUDGET PROBLEM, IT'S A 30 YEAR PROBLEM OF UNDERFUNDING CORRECTION OFFICERS, BUT WITH 30% OF THE POSITIONS ARE VACANT, THAT'S A PROBLEM GUYS.

>> OKAY UNDERREPORTED JONAH.

>> AS WE THINK BACK TO 9.11, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE NORTH CAROLINA'S ROLE.

FLIGHT 11 WHICH WAS THE FIRST PLANE TO LEAVE BOSTON TO LOS ANGELES AND SLAMMED THE NORTH TOWER THIS FLIGHT ATTENDANT NAMED BETTY ONG.

FROM THE BACK OF THE PLANE SHE CALLED AN AMERICAN AIRLINES RESERVATION CENTER.

THAT RESERVATION CENTER WAS IN CARY AND A WOMAN NAMED VANESSA MINTER PICKED UP THAT PHONE THAT'S WHERE HISTORY STARTS.

THAT'S KIND OF REMARKABLE TO THINK ABOUT.

THEN NORTH CAROLINA CAMP LEJEUNE.

NEW RIVER.

YOU HAVE FORT BRAGG COURSE 82ND AIRBORNE SEYMOUR JOHNSON AIR FORCE BASE BETWEEN ALL OF THESE POSTS NEARLY 100,000 NORTH CAROLINA BASED TROOPS FOUGHT IN ALL THOSE OPERATIONS ENDURING FREEDOM INHERENT RESOLVE NEW DAWN IRAQI FREEDOM.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND THE MARINES ABOUT 430 NORTH CAROLINA BASE MARINES WERE LOST IN THOSE CONFLICTS, THE MOST OUT OF EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE FRONT LINES.

>> NELSON.

>> WE KNOW THAT RARE EARTH ELEMENTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE PRODUCTION OF SEMICONDUCTOR CHIPS THAT ARE FOUND IN EVERY MICROELECTRONICS DEVICE FROM MISSILES TO PHONES BUT IN THE 1970'S, THE U.S. WAS ACTUALLY THE WORLD'S LEADER IN MINING AND PROCESSING THESE ELEMENTS.

WE GAVE THAT LEADERSHIP POSITION UP TO CHINA WHO NOW CONTROLS OVER 70% OF THE WORLD EXPORT MARKET, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT BACK, TRYING TO GET BACK IN THE GAME, THE MOUNTAIN PASS MINE IN CALIFORNIA IS BEING REJUVENATED IT CURRENTLY PRODUCES 15% OF THE WORLD'S RARE EARTHS OTHER NEW MINES ARE PLANNED AROUND THE COUNTRY AND BRAZIL, MOST IMPORTANT THE NEW PROCESSING FACILITIES TO EXTRACT THE ELEMENTS, RARE EARTH PRODUCTION AS WELL AS MICRO CHIP PRODUCTION, OUR STRATEGIC TO AMERICA'S SECURITY AND THE ECONOMY AND WASHINGTON REALLY NEEDS TO BE FOCUSING ON THOSE 2 ISSUES WITH MANHATTAN PROJECT LEVEL COMMITMENT TO THE RESOURCES AND SENSE OF URGENCY.

>> GREAT JOB, LET'S GO LIGHT AROUND DONNA WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK.

>> OK SO I'M GOING TO SAY UP IS RENTERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, THE STATE SENATE HAS PASSED A BILL KIND OF STREAMLINING THE WHOLE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, STILL ABOUT 500 MILLION DOLLARS TO GO OUT TO FOLKS HAVING TROUBLE MAKING RENT TO MAKING UTILITY PAYMENTS.

UNDER THIS BILL, THEN LANDLORDS WITH THE RENTERS PERMISSION COULD APPLY FOR THAT ASSISTANCE AND IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE ELIGIBILITY TO FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN HOTELS THAT WERE JUST NEED HELP OF THE UTILITIES.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

DEMOCRATS ARE DOWN.

I THINK THAT THEIR CHANCES OF HOLDING ON TO CONGRESS IN 2022 ARE TOUGH BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATINGS ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE MIDTERM RESULTS AND RIGHT NOW BIDEN IS RIDING BELOW CLINTON AND OBAMA GOING INTO THE MIDTERMS.

>> MORGAN YOU AGREE WITH THAT DON'T YOU.

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

[LAUGHTER] BUT ABOVE TRUMP BY THE WAY!

SO UP THIS WEEK WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY AS FOOTBALL FANS AS A HUGE CHICAGO BEARS FAN, THIS IS MY FAVORITE WEEK OF THE FOOTBALL SEASON IT'S THE ONLY WEEK WERE UNDEFEATED, BABY!

[LAUGHTER] PROBABLY WILL NOT LAST PAST SUNDAY.

DOWN THIS WEEK AS WE TALK ABOUT 9.11 AND THE REMEMBRANCES OF 9.11, I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHILE MOST AMERICANS ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME REMEMBERING 20 YEARS AGO, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PROVIDING COLOR COMMENTARY ON A BOXING MATCH.

SO NOT A GOOD LOOK ON 9.11.

>> WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK?

>> BROADWAY'S BACK!

THAT'S STARTING SEPTEMBER 13TH.

THIS WAS A DORMANT INDUSTRY IN >> [MARC] GOT YOUR TICKETS?

>> NOT YET, BUT I THINK IT JUST REFLECTS YOU HAD BROADWAY YOU THE U.S. OPEN YOUR COLLEGE FOOTBALL, THE NFL, YES, WE'RE GETTING BACK THERE AND IT SHOWS THE VACCINES WORK, IT SHOWS THAT -- >> [MARC] NORMALCY, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

>> IT'S A PROCESS, IT'S A PROCESS, I MEAN WHEN WE'RE IN THE BUBBLE, YES, I MEAN IT'S BEEN 20 MONTHS, BUT LIKE IT'S ONLY BEEN 20 MONTHS, AND WHO'S DOWN GAVIN NEWSOME GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA, NOT LOOKING GOOD.

MOST CALIFORNIANS WHO GOT THEIR BALLOTS NOT RETURNING THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK.

WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK.

>> TAIWAN, ACCORDING TO A SURVEY BY THE CHICAGO COUNCIL ON GLOBAL AFFAIRS, 69% OF AMERICANS ACTUALLY SUPPORT RECOGNITION OF TAIWAN AS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, 57% WANT A FREE TRADE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, 53% ARE IN FAVOR OF SIGNING A FORMAL ALLIANCE AND 52% FAVOR SENDING U.S.

TROOPS TO TAIWAN IF CHINA INVADES, SO GOOD FOR THE TAIWANESE AND THEY MAKE LOTS OF CHIPS BY THE WAY.

WHO'S DOWN.

SENATOR MAGGIE HASSAN OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NEW HAMPSHIRE INSTITUTE OF POLITICS FOUND THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SENATOR TRAILING REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR CHRIS SUNUNU 40 TO 49% COULD BE A KEY PICK UP 4 SENATE REPUBLICANS IN 2022.

>> DONNA HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> SOLDIERS RETURNING FROM AFGHANISTAN HEAD HOME TO FORT BRAGG.

THE BASE IS COLLECTING DONATIONS FOR WELCOME BASKETS AS THEY RETURN HOME AND THEY HAVE A WISH LIST POSTED ON THE BASE WEBSITE AND ON AMAZON.

>> HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> DESPITE WHAT JONAH THINKS, GAVIN NEWSOME SURVIVES RECALL EFFORT.

>> TO BE CONTINUED.

HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE JUST A SURPRISE.

WHATEVER THE REASON WHATEVER THE RESULT IS IT WILL BE A SURPRISE.

>> IT'S A TURNOUT ELECTION.

>> YEAH, THAT'S MY HEADLINE >> HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> WELL, THIS IS A CERTAINTY.

NATURAL GAS PRICES CONTINUE TO RISE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE ECONOMY?

>> WELL, IT MEANS MORE PRODUCTION IN THE U.S. FROM THE SHALE FIELDS, BUT IT ALSO MEANS RISING CONSUMER PRICES FOR A WHOLE RANGE OF PRODUCTS, BOTH YOUR ELECTRICITY AS WELL AS PLASTICS AND RANGE OF THINGS AS WELL AS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, >> GREAT JOB PANEL.

THAT'S IT FOR US, THANKS FOR WATCHING.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

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