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SOME BIG ISSUES APPEARING ON THE BALLOT IN MISSOURI TO NOVEMBER.

AMONG OUR TOPICS FOR THIS EDITION.

FI..

STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

BILL MCMCCLELLAN FROM THE MAJOR DAILY POST DISPATCH FROM SPLA.COM AND POST DISPATCH JOE HOLLEMAN AND ST. LOUIS AMERICAN ALVIN REID.

BILL, THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WHEN IT CAME TO THE ABORTION AMENDMENT FOR THE MISSOURI BALLOT NOVEMBER 5th.

WITH THREE HOURS TO GO BEFORE THE BALLOTS WERE TO BE PRINTED THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT OKAYED THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD RESTORE A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

THIS.. REPEAL IT AFTER THE 2022 REPEAL OF ROE V. WADE.

THEY COLLECTED SUPPORTERS OF THIS AMENDMENT 380,000 SIGNATURES, TWICE AS MANY AS NECESSARY AND MORE THAN ANY OTHER INITIATIVE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

THE QU..

MOMENTUM GOING TO PRODUCE DIFFERENT RESULTS, OR WHAT WILL BE THE RESULT OF THIS NOVEMBER 5th BALLOT MEASURE?

FIRST LET ME SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE 380,000 SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED BY MY WIFE.

I'M NOT WITHOUT BIAS IN THIS.

BUT I THINK THAT THE RESULT WILL BE THAT AMENDMENT WILL PASS, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE ANY POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS BECAUSE MISSOURIANS HAVE THE INNATE TO PHOTO FOR PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN.

PEOPLE WILL, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE AMENDMENT TO KEEP ABORTION LEGAL AND WILL TURN AROUND AND VOTE FOR JOSH HAWLEY WHO WORKED FOREVER AGAINST IT.

IT'S JUST THE WAY MISSOURI IS.

MAYBE THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE IN THE SECOND DISTRICT WHO ARE A LITTLE MORE SWING STATISH WHO MIGHT HELP, LIKE RAY HARTMANN, FOR INSTANCE, WHO IS PRO CHOICE, AND ANN WAGNER WHO IS PRO LIFE COULD POSSIBLY BE HEARD BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS POLITICAL IMPACT.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU.

IN KANSAS, OHIO, OTHER STATES LIKE THAT HAVE FOLLOWED THAT EXACT PATTERN IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR PROTECT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, AND WHATEVER POLL IT IS FOR SENATORIAL SEATS, MUCH CLOSER FOR THAT ELECTION.

I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO BROWN, AND HE WAS ONE THAT HAD TO WRITE A STORY THREE TIMES IN 72 HOURS.

IT WEN.. VOTE ON THIS TO NOVEMBER TO THIS TO THIS TO THIS AND ON A DEADLINE ON A TUESDAY WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH OUR DEADLINE.

IT MADE FOR SOME JOURNALIST JOURNALISTICALLY, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BILL.

AND I ALSO THOUGHT REGARDLESS WHERE I MAY STABBED ON THE ISSUE, I THOUGHT THE CASE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO JUDGE LIMBAUGH IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS NOT AS WHACKY AS SOME PEOPLE MADE IT OUT TO BE.

I THOUGHT THE SUPREME COURT COULD POSSIBLY COME BACK AND SAY IT WOULD NOT BE VOTED ON THIS TIME UNTIL THEY GOT THE BALLOT MEASURE CLEAR, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I'M NOT GOING ..

THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN BUT IT WASN'T SOME MADE UP OUT OF THE AIR OPPOSITION TO IT.

>> I AGREE WITH BILL ON A COUPLE POINTS.

ONE IS I DON.. MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IN INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE VERSUS CANDIDATE.

I TH.. BILL MENTIONED, MISSOURI, WHICH IS BEING CONSIDERED A CONSERVATIVE STATE FOR A LONG TIME HAS TWICE DEFEATED RIGHT TO WORK LAWS WHICH ARE CONSIDERED TO BE LIBERAL PRO UNION AND TURNED AROUND AND VOTED FOR A BUNCH OF REPUBLICANS.

I THINK SOME ISSUES, I THINK HOPEFULLY TO EVERYBODY, BUT WITH MISSOURIANS, LIKE ABORTION EVEN THOUGH THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THIS, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HOLD DIFFERING OPINIONS FROM THE PARTY THEY FOLLOW.

THERE ARE PRO LIFE DEMOCRATS AND THERE ARE PRO CHOICE REPUBLICANS.

SO T.. VOTE CONSCIENCE, IF YOU WILL AND GO AND VOTE FOR ALL THE REPUBLICANS AND ALL THE DEMOCRATS.

>&g.. WORK ISSUE WAS ON THE AUGUST BALLOT AND THEN A DIFFERENT GROUP OF VOTERS MAYBE GO OUT TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER.

I THINK WHAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS ARE HOPING ANYWAY IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING PEOPLE OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHO HERETOFORE HADN'T VOTED OR WOULDN'T EARLY VOTE.

&g..

BRINGS PEOPLE OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND NOTHING EVER BRINGS PEOPLE OUT OF THE WOODWORK.

WE TALK LIKE IT'S A BIG DEAL WHEN 30% SHOW UP.

>> SO TRUE.

AND MAYBE IT WILL BE TOO COLD OR TOO WARM, AND ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, BILL, BECAUSE I REMEMBER TALKING TO A PERSON THAT WAS PRO LIFE AND VOTED FOR CLAIRE MCCASKILL.

I DO.. OTHER STATES.

>> MY FAVORITE ONE HERE IS WHEN THE PRISON GUARD ASSOCIATION ENDORSED ERIC GREITENS WHO IS IN FAVOR OF RIGHT TO WORK OVER CHRIS COSTER WHO WAS A DEMOCRAT BUT A FORMER REPUBLICAN AND NOT AT ALL AN ORTHODOX DEMOCRAT.

AND HE WAS SUPPORTED BY THE NRA.

I ASKED ONE OF THE GUYS IN THE PRISON GUARD ASSOCIATION WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

WELL, IT'S MADE UP OF A LOT OF SMALL TOWN GUYS, AND THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT A DEMOCRAT.

THEY.. NEXT THING THEY ARE FEUDING WITH THE STATE BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE DUES OUT.

>> I THINK IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THERE'S PEOPLE WHO SEEMED TO BE SURPRISED THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY THINK OUTSIDE OF PARTY LINES, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO.

>> WHEN YOU SAY WE BRING PEOPLE OUT OF THE WOODWORK, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S BRINGING OUT OF THE WOODWORK.

>> TRUE.

I .. FOR PUTTING AN AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT HAS MOMENTUM BECAUSE HAWLEY, WHO YOU REFERENCED, HE SAID HE'S GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE VOTERS.

>> HE HAS NO CHOICE.

HE HAS TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE VOTERS.

.. >> HE'S NOT BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

>> THAT'S WHAT DONALD TRUMP WAS GIVING CREDIT FOR THE OTHER NIGHT.

>> ALVIN, I WANT TO AS.. ABOUT THE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THE POST DISPATC.. THAT FOUR WEEKS INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR THE TRANSPORTATION WHOAS STILL CONTINUES.

SOME KIDS ARE GETTING HOME AFTER 6:00 AT NIGHT.

ONE REPORT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS VERIFIED ONE OF THE STUDENTS URINATED ON THE BUS BECAUSE THE RIDE WAS TOO LONG AND ON BUSES THERE ARE NO REST ROOM FACILITIES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE MET FOR THE PURPOSE OF APPROVING MINUTES, 15 MEETINGS WORTH OF MINUTES, AND IT WENT BACK TO 2023 BECAUSE THEY HADN'T DONE IT.

.. MINUTES THEY WERE UNABLE TO POST THEM ONLINE.

NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

THEY CHANGED DAY OF OPENING SPEAKERS.

SOME O..

IT'S TIME FOR THE STATE TO TAKE OVER THE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN MENTIONED IN THE LIST OF WHOA WHOAS THAT 15% ARE PROFICIENT IN MATHEMATICS, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE.

DO YOU THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE STATE TO STEP IN?

>> THE STATE IS AUDITING DISTRICT AND THE CITY BEGINNING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS CALLED FOR AN AUDIT AND LET'S GET NOT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ACADEMIC BUT LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK ONCE AGAIN YOU FIND YOURSELF AT A POINT WHERE I THINK THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WILL OVERTURN THIS BOARD.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN -- THE REACTION OF SOME OF THE LEADERS AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING THE TUESDAY AFTER SCHOOL BEGAN WHERE TONY COUSINS RAN THROUGH A LIST OF THINGS YOU DIDN'T READ ABOUT AND THE MEDIA IS UNFAIR BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T READ ABOUT THIS.

I'M READING THE STORY AND LIKE YOU READ THAT AND THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN YOU LIST ABOUT FIVE THINGS YOU HAD COVERED AND REPORTED ON.

WHEN YOU ARE THROWING STUFF AND SEEING WHAT WILL STICK, THAT DOESN'T WORK.

HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY STEP UP AND REALLY START LEADING INSTEAD OF START BATTLING, BECAUSE IT'S PROBLEMS.

>> WHEN PARENTS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR BABIES ARE AND YOU HAVE A GLIB ATTITUDE ABOUT THE REACTION IN THE MEDIA, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.

TOM .. >> MATT DAVIS.

>> SORRY.

KEEP.. DAVIS.

TALKING ABOUT .. MEDIA, YOU HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

GETTIN..

TAKING ON MEMBERS OF THE STATE, THERE IS DI DERELICTION OF DUTY.

>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BERNARD WHO HAD THE AUDACITY TO REPORT THAT THE DISTRICT LOST $40 MILLION, THAT THE DISTRICT CAN'T GET KIDS TO SCHOOL, THAT THE BOARD HASN'T PUBLISHED MINUTES IN MONTHS UPON MONTHS.

I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS TRYING TO BLAME THE REPORTING OF THE POST DISPATCH AND THE GOOD REPORTING OF MS. BERNARD.

WELL, YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE GREAT PROGRAM.

WHERE IS THE MISSING 50 MILLION?

START WITH THAT.

>> HOW DO YOU GO FROM A SURPLUS TO.

>> MATT .. PEARL CLUTCHERS, HATERS, AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE SCHOOLS, MR. DAVIS, AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T FLATTERING YOU ENOUGH, THAT'S TOO MUCH.

>> PEOPLE ASK FOR LEADERS.

2021 WHEN THERE WAS A BUS DRIVER SHORTAGE IN BOSTON, THEY SENT IN THE MASSACHUSETTS NATIONAL GUARD TO DRIVE BUSES.

NOW, IF WE CAN'T FIND DRIVERS FOR CENTRAL STATES OR WHATEVER, SHOULD WE BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD?

>> WHATEVER YOU NEED T.. GET THE KIDS TO SCHOOL AND BACK AT A DECENT TIME.

YES, THOSE STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN.

&g.. OF BROKENNESS HERE THAT REALLY SHOULD AGGRAVATE EVERYBODY REGARDLESS WHAT YOUR POSITION IS ON PUBLIC EDUCATION.

WITH THAT VAST AMOUNT OF MISSING MONEY WITH THE AMOUNT OF HIRING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT WHO DID NOTHING BUT HIRE CRONIES IN, THERE SHOULD BE NOT ONLY FITZPATRICK AUDITING IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

WE ARE.. ABOUT WELL, THE HATERS.

YOU CAN'T GET KIDS TO SCHOOL.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU UNTIL YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET THE ACTUAL KIDS YOU ARE TO BE SERVING INTO A SEAT SO THE HARD WORKING TEACHERS CAN ACTUALLY TEACH THEM SOMETHING.

>> I HEARD YOU SAY THERE WAS ANOTHER POINT THAT DAVIS AND COUSINS MADE IN THEIR ESSAY THAT HIRING DR. SCARLETT WAS A HIGH RISK THING AND THEY KNEW IT.

IF THEY KNEW THAT, WHY DIDN'T THEY KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

>> PUTTING A CHILD IN AN UBER IS ALSO A HIGH RISK.

>> HIGH RISK BLUE UP I BLEW UP IN YOUR FACE.

>>.. >> OR ARROGANCE.

>> JOE, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION THAT HAS A LOT OF PANDEMIC MONEY TO DOLE OUT.

IT WAS TO ENHANCE BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMY THERE.

THEN ST. LOUIS ALDER WOMAN SHAMEEM CLARK HUBBARD CHANGED RULES SO MORE PARTS OF NORTH ST. LOUIS COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT.

AS IT TURNS OUT, AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF HER FAMILY ARE GETTING SOME MONEY.

HER FATHER-IN-LAW RODNEY AND HIS GRANDDAUGHTER.

GRANDDAUGHTER IS GETTING A.. $740,000 IN PANDEMIC MONEY.

THE PEOPLE WHO SAT ON THE SLDC, AT LEAST TWO OF THEM, MATT MCBRIDE AND LAURA GILBERT, SAY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MONEY WAS FOR AND GIVEN A DAY TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE FOR $37 MILLION IN GRANTS.

TO THIS DAY THE SLDC WON'T RELEASE TO THE POST DISPATCH WHAT THE GRANT MONEY IS BEING USED FROM.

>> I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED, I SAY, THAT SOMEHOW A PERSON ON A BOARD CHANGED THE RULES AND THE EVENTUAL OUTCOME WAS IT'S THE MEMBER OF THE FAMILIES IT WAS EASIER TO GET MONEY.

ACTUALLY WHAT I'M REALLY SHOCKED ABOUT IS THAT ANYBODY IS SHOCKED ABOUT THIS ANYMORE AT ALL, NOT JUST IN ST. LOUIS, BUT THIS IS HOW GOVERNMENT DOES BUSINESS.

THOSE PEOPLE WITH INFLUENCE NEVER GO AWAY, AND THEY FUNNEL THE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE THEY ARE CONNECTED WITH.

THE IDEA THAT SAY WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO RELEASE THE RECORDS BECAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS.

THE GREA..

POLITICIANS, THEY WRITE LAWS THAT ALWAYS HAVE ESCAPE CLAUSE SO YOU CAN LEGALLY AVOID THE LAW.

THAT'S A CONTRACT.

WE ARE NEGOTIATING IT.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU ARE NOT TELLING ANYBODY WHAT'S HAPPENING IF YOU HAVE THE TWO MEMBERS WHO SAY WE DIDN'T GET THE PAPERWORK IN TIME, DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION IN TIME.

LET'S ALL RUBBER STAMP THIS.

THERE ARE PRESSURE ON THE BOARDS TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

TO GET ALONG, YOU GO ALONG.

LO AND BEHOLD POLITICALLY CONNECTED FAMILIES GET MONEY.

>> AS THE POARN MAR PARK MARK POINTED OUT THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY.

>> WHAT GOT ME WAS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF RODNEY HUBBARD SENIOR SHE STARTED THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CALLED THE PEOPLE PROJECT 30 DAYS AFTER THE MONEY WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO HER GROUP.

IT KIND OF REMINDED ME OF GEORGE CAMCASTANZA'S NOT-FOR-PROFIT, WHERE ON SEINFELD HE CAME UP WITH NOT-FOR-PROFIT.

THE PEOPLE PRO.. ALL ABOUT?

WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I WOULD SAY, JOE, YOU ARE 100% RIGHT.

IT'S THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS.

WHAT WE SHOULD DEMAND IS AT LEAST WE WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GETTING THE MONEY AND HOW MUCH.

>> AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR.

BECAUSE ANY GRANT YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THE GRANT IS USED FOR.

MOST.. GRANT SAY IT HAS TO BE USED FOR THIS.

I THIN.. WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THEM.

SLDC DOES GREAT WORK.

THEY HAVE JUST TAKEN OVER OR TAKEN CHARGE OF THE MINORITY BUSINESS CERTIFICATION.

I DON'T LIKE STUFF LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK SO BAD.

THEY DO GOOD STUFF.

I HATE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES -- THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

COME ON.

COME ON.

YOU ARE DOING SO WELL.

AND SO THE HUBBARD HAS GOT A CONTRACT.

YOU ..

POORLY ON US WHETHER WE DO IT WELL, RIGHT.

AND WE ARE NOT S.. HUBBARD AND CREW ARE BAD PEOPLE.

COME ON, LET'S THINK THIS OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T DO THAT.

>> WAS THERE TOO MUCH PA.. MONEY THROWN OUT IN TOO LITTLE TIME?

.. REVEREND WHO WAS IN A HELICOPTER BETWEEN SUNDAY SERVICES.

>> OR SOMEBODY OUT THERE IN ST. CHARLES.

HERE.. BROAD BRUSH, AND THERE CAN BE BROAD BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE CLIPPING AND NEVER EVER GOT CAUGHT WHO PROBABLY DID WORSE.

I WILL JUDGE EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY.

I CAN'T SAY IT WAS T.. MONEY OR WHATEVER BECAUSE WE HAD NEVER, EVER, EVER BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE.

>> THE MONEY WAS JUST -- WHEN YOU HANDED THAT MUCH MONEY TO GOVERNMENT, IT WAS LITERALLY LIKE CHRISTMAS MORNING.

>> ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T SPENT ALL OF OURS YET.

>> THEY SPENT IT ON THIS, AND WE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

.. WE SAID I, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE ST. LOUIS HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

JUST A.. LOUIS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY FOR ST. LOUIS COUNTY CALLED FOR DENNIS HANCOCK, A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO RESIGN BECAUSE HE HAD HIRED HIS WIFE.

NOW IT TUR..

THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR, DR. CUNNINGHAM HAD A DAUGHTER THAT WAS KIND OF AN UNDERCOVER AGENT TRYING TO BUY CIGARETTES TO SEE IF THEY COULD SELL TO HER BECAUSE SHE WAS UNDERAGE.

KIND OF AN INTERESTING PUBLIC SERVICE.

AN..

IN THE MOTHER'S DEPARTMENT.

THE MOTHER ACTUALLY SENT OUT E-MAILS ASKING FOR HER AND HER COLLEAGUES TO GET A PAY RAISE.

DOES SHE NEED TO GO?

>> I HATE TO BE SO AWFUL ABOUT THIS, BUT YES.

FOR ALL OF THE STORIES THAT WE HAVE HAD TONIGHT ABOUT LACK OF OVERSIGHT, THE FACT THAT WE JUST KEEP MOVING THAT LINE OF RIGHT AND WRONG AND OH, THERE'S EXCEPTIONS HERE AND EXCEPTIONS THERE, WE CAN'T EXPECT ANY BETTER FROM ANYBODY IF WE DON'T START ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE STATE AS WESLEY BELL SAID.

IT'S NOT JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS.

IT ALSO APPLIES TO EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THAT IS SOFIA AVE, WHO WAS INSPECTING POOLS, THE DAUGHTER OF THE FORMER HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S SPOKESPERSON.

YES, I THINK THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S G.. TO STOP.

I HATE SAYING THAT.

I TRULY DO.

IF YOU ARE AWARE, I AM AWARE THAT WHEN A MICROPHONE IS ON, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY.

IF YOU ARE WORKING AT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE RULES.

IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN SHAME ON YOU.

>>.. ABOUT NEPOTISM.

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I GREW UP IN CHICAGO.

>> WHEN MAYOR DAILY WAS CAUGHT STEERING MONEY TO HIS FAMILY, HE SAID WHAT KIND OF WORLD IS IT IF A MAN CAN'T HELP HIS OWN FAMILY.

CHRISTOPHER'S DAUGHTER GOT HIRED BY THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE DOCTOR HIRED HER DAUGHTER.

AND ..

IT.

>> Y.. HAVE A COLUMN THAT WAS JUST ON TODAY ABOUT IT.

I DON'T SEE IT AS ALL THAT BIG OF A DEAL EITHER WITH HANCOCK.

I GENUINELY SEE WHAT BILL IS SAYING.

WHAT I THOUGHT THIS KIND OF STRUCK ME AS WAS A PARTING SHOT BY WESTLY BELL TO BE TAKE A SHOT.

HANCOCK IS A REPUBLICAN, B.. A DEMOCRAT.

HANCOCK HAD BEEN CRITICAL OF BELL'S OFFICE OVER THE HIRING OF SAMAL TON AND LETTING HIM MOON LIGHT, SO HE HAD THE HEARINGS ON IT.

I ..

IT WAS PLAYING POLITICS.

PROBLEM IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO GRAB A CAN OF WORMS CALLING NEPOTISM IN GOVERNMENT, I THINK I SAID ON THE SHOW HERE THE GOVERNMENT IS LITTERED WITH THE BODIES OF RELATIVES.

HERE IS THE TRUTH.

PROBLEM IS THEY ARE USUALLY SMARTER ABOUT IT.

I I DON'T HIRE MY KID IN MY DEPARTMENT, I GET MY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD FRIEND, AND I HIRE HER DAUGHTER IN MY DEPARTMENT.

IT'S SLEAZY, BUT IT'S LEGAL.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I WAS ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT I.. TELL MY FAMILY THE DAY I GOT ELECTED, THIS IS KIND OF THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WORK FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

OR YOU CAN'T WORK FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT UNTIL I'M NOT IN OFFICE.

EVERYB.. >> MAYBE THEY BECOME LOBBYISTS THEN.

>> I DON'T WANT REID INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING.

THIS REID IS TRYING TO GOV.. ABOUT -- IT'S SO SIMPLE TO ME.

>> IN THE CASE OF DENNIS HANCOCK, WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THIS TIT FOR TAT WITH WESLEY BELL, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU HIRE YOUR STEPFATHER?

SHAME ON HIM.

I KNOW HE'S A GREAT MAN.

HE'S GREATLY RESPECTED, BUT HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW IT?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW DOES THE COUNTY SEND OUT NOTICES, LIKE ONCE A YEAR FOLKS HERE ARE THE RULES.

..

UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW.

HOLD THAT THOUGHT AGAIN.

TOO MANY TOPICS, TOO LITTLE TIME.

ALVIN REID, SPORTS B..

GOING ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

37 STATES ALREADY HAVE IT.

AT THE SAME TIME ANOTHER GAMBLING MEASURE CASINO AT THE LAKE OF THE OZARKS WILL ALSO BE IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS.

ALTHOUGH A COUPLE OF PROFESSORS AT YOUR ESTEEMED ALMA MATER WHICH LOST TO ILLINOIS ON SUNDAY SUNDAY, THE TWO KU PROFESSORS SAID THEY ENGAGE IN SPORTS BETTING BUT ADMIT IT AFFECTS THE POOR, THE MOST VULNERABLE THE MOST.

>> LAC.. PEOPLE MORE THAN IT DOES WITH PEOPLE WITH MONEY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A COLLEGE PROFESSOR AT A FINE INSTITUTION LIKE KU TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WHAT IS THAT STUDY ABOUT?

NORTH CAROLINA ONCE HAD A STUDY THAT SAID THAT PEOPLE WHO GO TO COLLEGE MAKE MORE MONEY THAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO TO COLLEGE.

GREAT.

WHATEVER THAT .. NO.

LET THESE PEOPLE DOWN WHEREVER, VOTE ON THEIR CASINO THING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE THEM EVERY PLACE ELSE BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THEM AT THE LAKE OF THE OZARKS.

TH.. >> YES, YES ABSOLUTELY.

KEEP THE SPORTS BETTING WHERE IT BELONGS IN BARS WHERE MAYBE PEOPLE ARE STILL SMOKING OR DRINKING AS GOD INTENDED.

KEEP THE FAMILIES ON THE JOEL GIANT SLIDES AT THE LAKE OF THE OZARKS.

.. OZARKS.

>> YOU KNOW CHUR.. FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUES.

>> CHURCHES HAVE BINGO GAMES.

>> I THINK CHURCHES WERE THE BIGGEST LOSERS WHEN CASINOS CAME ABOUT.

>.. ANYMORE.

>.. A POINT.

IF IT HURTS VULNERABLE FAMILIES, WHY ARE WE SO UPSET ABOUT?

>> SO DOES SMOKING.

>> LET'S OUTLAW IT ALL.

>> LET'S SEE WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S GREAT PROGRAM.

THE ART FAIR IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CULTURAL AFFAIR WHILE A POLITICAL DEBATE.

AND SO WERE OVER 40,000 PALESTINIANS, THOUSANDS OF THEM CHILDREN.

THEY ARE.. ILLINOIS.

CHARLIE BRENNAN THINKS THE SPEAKER SERIES WILL REMAIN AT THE FACTORY AND NOT RETURN TO POWELL HALL NEXT YEAR.

I HOPE NOT.

I DON'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC JAMS AND SLOW ENTRY PROCESS WHILE STANDING OUTSIDE THE FACTORY.

POWELL HALL DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB.

.. LINE.

>> SO A PALESTINIAN DANCE GROUP SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PERFORM AT THE ST. LOUIS ART FAIR IN LIGHT OF THE SENSITIVITY OF SOME JEWISH PEOPLE GIVEN HAMAS'S RECENT AND HORRENDOUS MURDER OF 6 HOSTAGES IN GAZA.

WAS THE DAN DANCE TROUPE INVOLVED IN THE MURDER?

THIS RATIONALE IS ILL LOGICA ILL LODGE I ILLOGICAL AT BEST.

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